in combination with technu,
i use DOMEBORO (a powder mixed into a paste similar in texture to
baking soda paste).
it is a painless astringent and works wonders!
it is available 'over the counter' at most drug strores.
was recommended to me some years ago when i had a very bad case of PI
judy
i appreciate the overall, deep, local work that ACGA does, but it
should have the interest and ability to respond to specific situations,
to a 'national flame' as you call it. this situation is simply calling
for response. i find this reponse from acga to be very disappointing.
judy
Perhaps there is much that the environmental and community gardening
and 'gardens in schools' groups are doing to respond to the sad mess in
Gena Louisiana but I have seen nothing about it on any list serve. If
ever there was a time for
'conflict-resolution-by-hands-on-environmental action'
no no no please no to multiple lists. there are already too many lists!!
just learn how to use the delete key as needed. thanks!!
judy tiger
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keep up the news as well as the dialogue (forum). both are valuable and
many of us would otherwise never see the news stories. learn to be easy with
the delete key if messages don't interest.
judy tiger, washington dc
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I would suggest sitting down with the museum and saying that you are willing
to explore the idea but need to know more; it would likely be helpful if the
museum would bring their insurance agent to the meeting. this way the
museum and the insurance agent can voice their concerns, could
check with the Land Trust Alliance (google it; located in washington, dc)
and inquire about the insurance that their members use. we use it here in DC
for our community gardens. i don't know what the costs would be since much of
the insurance climate has changed in 911. but that said,
Composting is a great idea and this could raise the overall quality of
gardening. That said, some research should be done about types and volume of
materials to accept, the size of piles (and mix of materials) to be formed by
gardeners, the system used to water and turn the piles, etc., any
Hi friends,
Any of you familiar with Earthboxes, the container garden system being
promoted by the UN? I'd like perspective on cost, how much can be harvested
per
box, good reasons to use them, reasons not to use them, etc. I need to advise
a local project in Washington DC.
Thanks,
Judy
Oops - I meant to ask:
1. if its possible to grow 'organically' using Earthboxes since that provide
fertilizer recommendations, and overall what it to recommend them over
in-ground gardening in the DC area.
2. The UN folks are promoting them because they can be rolled indoors at the
end of
sounds like she is asking about chemical leaching from the plastic at high
temps, not leaking? is this more the question?
judy tiger, washington dc
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I'd suggest that with regard to summer that family stewardship is a good
plan ... as soon as possible during the school year, invite families to visit
and tour the garden.
* Alternative #1-invite families to adopt specific parts of the garden (and
if this is a food growing garden, invite
more on cold season school gardens, i'd get advice from local public gardens
and/or native plant societies and local farmers so that the design/plant
selection makes sense and provides interest and learning opportunities from
September-June (of whenever school gets out) as well as opps for
i couldn't agree more. if messages are location specific it should be in
the subject line, ie cleanup in sacramento, etc. and always include the
location in the text of a message, so people can get the context of a
discussion.
thank you
judy tiger, washington dc
among my comments are that the quality of soil would be better in these
plots in the long term if you would stop tilling altogether. require and
teach
high quality soil care. provide lots of yummy compost from the Intervale
periodically throughout the season. be sure there is a cleanup
seems in part that slow food could make the greatest impact in working with
schools and other institution (shelters, daycares, etc) to re-work menus,
train cooks, etc. staying within the budget that these places have. this
would
be a real challenge and a huge contribution! could even
Good grief. The city aims to collect more than $16,000/year from this
activity? You didn't say where you are but surely they do not collect this
amount
from any of their other recreational land uses - tennis, golf, swimming,
basketball, walking, dog walking, etc. This is really
Any response from the ACGA board on this? Seems like this is just what ACGA
should be jumping all over -- to provide support, analysis, communication
with the city leaders, etc.
Judy Tiger, DC
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At this point, the group shouldn't be offering to negotiate an increase.
But Adam is right that they should discuss it earnestly among themselves and
try to arrive at a what-if consensus. The garden should be treated similarly
to all other recreational land uses and at this point, the
one thing in Maria's email about city's not permitting testing of soil in
parks, ...
the land in the park is public and they should not be able to restrict
citizen's groups from sampling soil to test.
judy
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Hi, I'm organizing a vacant lot community garden in Washington DC (size
60'x70'). Unfortunately, the soil test results came back from UMass with the
following lead levels: extracted lead=151ppm, estimated total lead=1146 ppm.
We
need advice on how to approach gardening in this lot. A
It's not the norm in DC. I'm finding it recently in gardens in the Capitol
Hill area, but not elsewhere. Not to say it isn't very important always to
test. I'd think it important to find out how deep the lead is in the soil
before just deciding to remove a certain amount of soil. What if
I am very grateful for the advice. We had already planned to use raised
'lasagna' beds anyhow. At this point its a matter of trying to figure out how
deep the lead is, whether or not the group can find the $ resources to remove
soil, whether or not to devote a couple of seasons to
I'm seeking recommendations on easy to use (really easy to use) garden
design software so I can practice placing trees, shrubs, walkways, etc in
landscapes. Thanks!
Judy Tiger, Washington DC
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for what its worth, adam has long been a valuable member of the cg list and
a stalwart friend of community gardens. he is prone - from time to time - to
outbursts.
adam, how bout an apology?
its a good reminder that members of list serves do not like being slammed in
an email. it
For Sally McCabe: you can purchase Passe Crassane pear trees at South
Meadow Fruit Gardens,
_http://www.southmeadowfruitgardens.com/FruitTreeCatalog2.html_
(http://www.southmeadowfruitgardens.com/FruitTreeCatalog2.html)
ps - whatever happened with this conflict? The garden can replace
Wow I think this is way off base. Community gardens are a mix of community
and private space. People participate for both reasons and both need to be
honored. Just as the individuals benefit from the community, the community
benefits from the individuals who lovingly tend their spaces as
cg is gardened by a few people for the enjoyment of the community - no
argument.
that doesn't change the likelihood that a person who has nurtured
plants/tree for a long time will react strongly if the plants/tree is damaged
needlessly.
judy tiger
i would be quick to ask the fence company to pay for the tree if in fact
they cut it down without consultation with whoever from the garden was
arranging
for the fence to be rebuilt. but the expense is not the issue here, since
we've determined that the tree will not cost anything like
mmm. the tree got cut down.
seems that the tree owner is due a deep apology. trees don't just 'get cut
down', someone chooses to cut them down. the person(s) who chose to do so
should apologize.
as to compensation, it isn't the 'garden' that cut it down, but a person or
persons. bad
Nothing like a good google search.
The Passe Crassane pear is a variety originating in 1845 in France, and
seems to be common in Europe, according to the references. It is sold by the
Keepers Nursery in Kent, England. I have emailed them to ask for the cost of
purchasing and shipping a
It would seem like the request for $500 is an emotional reaction suggesting
that the person is feeling really shocked and hurt, that the tree was
cultivated for a long time and perhaps the gardener doesn't realize that it is
replaceable. It will take a while to bear fruit and given how its
I'd agree that paying someone for such volunteer work should be a last resort
after examining lots of alternatives and getting advise on re-engaging the
garden members. In the long run, requiring people to do their part may be a
bit
hard, but a good waiting list will take care of this
I've received an inquiry from a landscape architect seeking sources of
information on designing community gardens. I certainly know basics from my
years
in community gardens (delivery gate, room for free mulch and soil, composting
area, ornamental border, water barrels, gathering area,
Hi All,
Wondering if the Community Garden Game is still available and wondering if
anyone has used it, if its worthy?
Thanks,
Judy Tiger
Washington, DC
the application can be sent by email, tho' this will not include photos.
the application is very short, takes less than 1 hr to fill out (including
hemming and hawing over what to say) and can be sent by express mail or fed ex.
arguably the 15th is a strange deadline, being a sunday when no
Looks to me to be more policy oriented related to planning not just for
vacant land, but also vacant properties, ie abandoned buildings. But take a
look
for yourself. The RFP is an opportunity to fund one organization that will be
providing info to be replicated nationally.
Judy Tiger, DC
I know this isn't a commercial list, but I don' really have a problem with
the message. If there were a lot of them I'd mind.
Judy Tiger
Hi friends,
A community group is just starting to discuss location of a dog park adjacent
to a commuity garden in a public park. Among their issues is what public
health / environmental concerns that they should be aware of in siting the dog
run (which, yes, would be fenced off separately).
Can we hear from community gardens and/or community garden organizations
regarding their insurance situations?
Insurance might be something that ACGA would want to put some effort into
again. Not that fun, but valuable.
Here in Washington, DC, my organization holds a liability policy
Hi Friends, Below is a question from a neighbor.
I have a quick question I would like your thoughts on. I have been
shredding all of my office paperwork and tilling it into my veggie garden to
improve
the soil. Do you see any danger in this - in terms of inks/chemicals?
Any knowledge
please respond directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear CG folks,
I know I've seen a photo of a victory garden on the Washington DC mall.
Anyone know how to track this photo down and/or other great victory garden
photos?
They will be included in the opening ceremony exhibit for the WWII monument
the overall point of community gardening is to make plans based on the
interests of people who are planning to participate. to say that the garden is
for
hobbyists is kind of meaningless in a way and tends to suggest a
pre-determined point of view about who the gardeners are and what will
once again, can we hear directly from PHS as to what happened to PHS's
support of community gardening?
to many of us, community gardening and Philly Green have long been almost
synonymous. Philly Green has been the model of a citywide organization that
starts and supports community
There is no single way to figure this, since in our area some gardens have
plots that range from 32 sq ft up to 900 sq ft, but some considerations are:
- plots of the same sq footage so that plot sizes are always 'fair'
- if you want to accomodate folks who 'just want to try out gardening' as
What's going on at Philly Green?
Judy Tiger, DC
I'll be curious to know what others say about this. I would not support
this. Car exhaust, dog poop, trash, trampling feet. One could never be
sure
the food is safe to eat.
Judy Tiger
Washington DC
The first thing I would do is find out why SRC has chosen to stop assisting
with leases and insurance. Perhaps they could continue to do so with financial
and administrative assistance from The Green Institute without having to
re-invent the wheel.
Liability insurance usually has a minimum
I would definitely not grow anything in a curb strip that I was going to eat
- nothing. Use the area to grow perennials and grow edibles at least 10' away
from the street.
Judy Tiger, Washington, DC
I'm looking for models of gardening training designed for urban innercity
settings, especially for low-income low literacy learners, covering organic
edible gardening as well as composting and basic ornamental garden design. I'm
wondering if there are any urban master gardening programs
I'm interested in the fact that no one has mentioned building in the cost of
tilling into the garden plot dues. And in areas that don't already have major
presence of weed seeds, is there any attempt to build up the organic matter
in the soil, use cover crops and turn the soil by hand?
Judy
Gardening and microenterprise combined can be a good thing, but put in some
context so that the microenterprise is taken on in the spirit of skill-building
(of many kinds) rather than major income generation. a microenterprise can
build useful youth development skills -- project planning,
This is a bit of a 'don't have enough information to be as helpful as I could
be' situation, but it does sound like an opportunity for meeting many needs
and a real need to bring people together with a facilitator to do some
inclusive planning. Anne Spirn (at U PA / Penn State?) has been
Another solution would be to:
1. collect some info about pressure treated wood for the teacher and the
extension agent
2. insist that the beds surrounded by pressure treated be used to create
wonderful ornamental beds
3. build new non PT beds for growing vegetables
4. continue to educate the
What is the question that you have about successful community gardens?
Success is not necessarily based on the number of participants, given that this
may
be dictated by the size of the land. Best to start this query over with some
other measures of success.
Judy Tiger
Executive Director
The proliferation of lists gets tedious. I'd rather follow threads that
interest me on a list and skip some others, knowing that overall the list is
helpful. There are already enough (more than) lists. This does require that
everyone be careful about the subject headings so that we know what
It may be against the list rules, but frankly it was really useful and I'm
glad to have the Worn World information.
Judy Tiger
Washington DC
I believe that a mailing went out to all ACGA members inviting speakers (I
got one), but not a notice on the list serve and not the community food
security list serve. So perhaps CB could start over with an email to the
ACGA list serve, and to the CFSC list serve and all could be forgiven.
Hi All,
I've got a similar question. I'm developing small resource 'libraries' to
give to low-income multigenerational garden projects (neighborhood center, 2
small churches, transitional housing). While in general these are not very
'book-ish' groups and are diverse in age (7 years old to 65
this from the NY list (our prayers are with our NY friends!!)
judy tiger, washington dc
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