[Community_garden] Black list Scotts Miracle Grow

2012-03-20 Thread Karen Jones
I guess I am cynical enough to not be surprised that Scotts Miracle Grow people actually sold poison bird seed, knowingly. I recommend that the ACGa urge all members and all gardeners and certainly anyone who loves our fine feathered friends to blacklist Scotts Miracle Grow. Put them out of bu

[Community_garden] nobel Prize nominees

2011-12-13 Thread Karen Jones
I have a great respect for the work done by the EPA. Every country should have one. I understand that it is targeted for financial down-sizing. It would be great if the ACGA could raise its voice against this happening. The EPA supports community gardens. -- next part

[Community_garden] Inappropriate soliticiations

2011-09-27 Thread Karen Jones
Common Circle soliticiations have been inappropriately showing up on this list for some time. Sure sustainability is a good thing, but like every other good thing, some capitalist is trying to cash in. The first law of ecology is that everything is related to everything else. Barry Commone

Re: [Community_garden] a word on organic

2011-07-26 Thread Karen Jones
ax: 860-570-9008 Email: sarah.bai...@uconn.edu An Equal Opportunity Employer and Program Provider. -Original Message- From: community_garden-boun...@list.communitygarden.org [mailto:community_garden-boun...@list.communitygarden.org] On Behalf Of Michael Simmons Sent: Tuesday, July

Re: [Community_garden] a word on organic

2011-07-26 Thread Karen Jones
note that many of the nastiest pollutants are classified as organic chemicals, so let's not confuse them with organic agriculture. Organic nitrogen sources would be from proteins, amino acids, or urea. Best regards, Guy On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Karen Jones wrote: > As one of thos

[Community_garden] a word on organic

2011-07-26 Thread Karen Jones
As one of those old fashioned people who thinks that a mistake in language often reveals a mistake in thought, there is no such thing as 'organic' nitrogen. There is nitrogen from industrial and non-industrial sources. Anybody out there who has studied organic chemistry would tell us that 'organ

[Community_garden] Charlotte CG Check list and Failure to Thrive in Lubbock

2011-06-21 Thread Karen Jones
Just a few comments, Don could you share your check list with the list when you have finalized it? Oddly enough this connects in with the Failure to Thrive post. About a decade ago, in Winnipeg,Provincial government Agencies started noticing that communities were establishing gardens on lots

[Community_garden] testing for soil nutrients/soil testing/health of soil

2011-06-01 Thread Karen Jones
Please do not confuse nutrient testing (NPK) in soils, with soil testing in general. Soil testing in general includes things like structure of soil, soil texture, pH and contaminants. Simply testing nutrient status may or may not tell you too much about the health of soil. Karen The firs

[Community_garden] water in new delhi

2011-05-20 Thread Karen Jones
I have been to New Delhi, the sky is purple from air pollution, of course the water is polluted and the soil is too. Trouble with that kind of pollution is it recognizes no political barriers. This is the face of the future. Like in Japan, too much radiation so simply increase the amount allow

[Community_garden] Organic is conventional traditional and safe

2011-04-08 Thread Karen Jones
I agree with Ray, organic is conventional, traditional and safe. Chemical gardening was developed in order to help make use of surplus petrochemicals which were around in the early part of the last century. There is no safe distance between these two types of gardens. The chemical will alway

[Community_garden] It's a hard life for aphidsi

2011-03-26 Thread karen jones
Hi Jama, It is actually a pretty hard life for aphids. They are soft bodied, have no defences and lots of enemies, like Ladybird Beetles and their larvae (which look like little black alligators) also a teeny tiny wasp, which you can hardly see which parasitizes the aphids by laying their egg

[Community_garden] grant opportunity

2011-03-23 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, this just came through on the Urban list serve . Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:37:16 -0400 From: Rob Aldrich Subject: [Urban] Scotts Miracle-Gro Company Offers Grants for Community Gardens and Green Spaces To: "ur...@lists.ltanet.org" Message-ID: <08ab53aa20d1f94dadfebbe8cdeca62d1d69

[Community_garden] Fw: [Fresh Ink] La Via Campesina - BALI SEED DECLARATION

2011-03-21 Thread karen jones
http://viacampesina.org/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1057:peasant-seeds-dignity-culture-and-life-farmers-in-resistance-to-defend-their-right-to-peasant-seeds&catid=22:biodiversity-and-genetic-resources&Itemid=37 Peasant Seeds: Dignity, Culture and Life. Farmers in Resistanc

Re: [Community_garden] fruit tree donations?

2011-03-21 Thread karen jones
Meridith, there you are in Southern California, why don't you grow some avacados from seed? The kids could germinate them themselves. It is real easy. Karen - Original Message - From: "Meredith Ball" Cc: Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: [Community_garden] fruit tree d

Re: [Community_garden] Community Gardens Are a Serious Answer to FoodProblems and Health

2011-03-21 Thread karen jones
There seems to be a confusion about allotment gardening and community gardening. Most of what I read in the following is about allottment gardening. Karen - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: [Community_garden] Community Gardens Are a Serious

[Community_garden] ACGA IS A GREAT NON-PROFIT !!

2011-03-09 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Everybody I just recommended ACGA as a Great Non-Profit. Please take the time to do this today! It will take about 4-5 min, because they ask you why you think your organization is a Great Non-Profit. One of the reasons i said that ACGA is a Great Non-Profit is the List Serve. so, Submit a

Re: [Community_garden] A Child's Garden?

2011-03-08 Thread karen jones
Ken, keep up the good work. Karen - Original Message - From: "Ken Hargesheimer" To: "Messacar, Nicole - LaPorte, IN" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Community_garden] A Child's Garden? New to me: http://www.cityfarmer.org/schgard15.html#School

Re: [Community_garden] Brownfields

2011-03-05 Thread karen jones
astic or other greenhouse type covers. Anyone have solutions? Please post on Community Garden Assn. - Original Message - From: "Robyn Harvey" To: "karen jones" ; "ACGA" Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Brownfields

Re: [Community_garden] Brownfields

2011-03-04 Thread karen jones
I think you are right Guy, bacteria break down poly aromatic hydrocarbons, but these bacteria are not everywhere. What is evident from this conversation today is that a few of us have some knowledge about soil toxins, but most of us, (I include myself) don't know very much. I would like to poin

[Community_garden] Brownfields

2011-03-04 Thread karen jones
Last year the ACGA partnered with the food movement people for a telephone conference on Brownfields. I just listened to it last night. Ann Carroll from the EPA (wish we had an EPA in Canada) talked about gardens on urban soils and the suites of contaminants which might possibly be in urban soil

[Community_garden] Wonderful Conference in Arizona

2011-02-28 Thread karen jones
is purely neutral. This conference is not about taking any state's political side, but to simply bring together a bunch of highly productive, incredibly positive people doing great work to improve our communities and our world. "karen jones" writes: It has been my long experien

Re: [Community_garden] Boycotting AZ

2011-02-27 Thread karen jones
It has been my long experience that community gardens are not immune to politics and in fact are up to their ears in them. Unfortunately. Glad that I don't have to get involved in this one, but if I did, I would have to side with Liz. And who is not trying to survive their financial problems? S

Re: [Community_garden] Where did co-existence with GMOs come from?

2011-01-30 Thread karen jones
Community Gardens are used by lots of people, for lots of purposes, gardeners for gardens are only one use, one purpose. The Community Economic Development people find them useful for programming, the Food Security People for urban agriculture. In fact less and less garderers are found in garde

Re: [Community_garden] Community Garden Accounting Practices

2011-01-22 Thread karen jones
You can probably set up an account at your local bank or credit union. Set it up in the name of the Garden or whoever the cheque is made out to. You will need two signing officers at least, 3 is better, you will all have to go to the bank, with ID (two pieces, one with address, one with photo)

[Community_garden] Happy New Year from the Bumble Bees

2011-01-04 Thread karen jones
Happy New Year to all Community Gardeners, and incipient Community Gardeners. Lets Establish more Community Gardens this year and lose less community gardens this year! Please consider setting aside a communal property for bumble bee pasturage. It won't take much land. Bumble Bees are native

[Community_garden] Hiding Our Heads In the Oil

2010-11-09 Thread karen jones
Many people on this list serve are interested in 'food Security'. It is notable where food security and the petrochemial industry intersect. In July, while I watched unstoppable oil spew into the Gulf of Mexico, I made a suggestion to the ACGA that Petrochemicals should be banned from Community

[Community_garden] Trust for Public Land

2010-10-13 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, The Trust for Public Land is a great supporter of Community Gardens. Please help TPL to get this charitable donation by voting for them. It only takes 10 seconds go to this web site and click the Trust for Public Land http://www.halfpricebooks.com/voteBB.html then if you don't know

Re: [Community_garden] Community Gardens + the Ethics of Hunger

2010-09-08 Thread karen jones
ble for gardening when the NRA's are through. But all the world is going that way isn't it? Karen Original Message - From: K. Rashid Nuri To: karen jones ; Christopher Bedford ; community_garden@list.communitygarden.org Cc: Christopher Bedford

Re: [Community_garden] Community Gardens + the Ethics of Hunger

2010-09-07 Thread karen jones
Hi Christopher, I could see where your e-mail was going when you said 'a number of true community gardens were established this year'. Unfortunately we have the same problem in downtown Winnipeg, Canada when the 'community garden' movement was hijacked, for lack of a better word, by QUANGO's (Q

[Community_garden] Garden Perspective

2010-08-30 Thread Karen Jones
Thanks Dianne for pointing out that my perspective (gardening in urban infill) is limited. Because it is! I am always surprised when I hear people talk about community gardening in rural areas, my surprise shows that I am just not familiar with the wide variety of forms that community gardening

Re: [Community_garden] plot size

2010-08-30 Thread karen jones
just a reminder to those who are considering raised beds and importing soil to fill them... When you take soil from one place to put in another, it is like removing skin from one person to do a graft on another. Soil is like the skin of the earth. Currently we are using it up alot faster than Mo

Re: [Community_garden] Domestic violence victims raise garden thatraises hope

2010-08-01 Thread karen jones
Officials had hoped to use the money to hire a farmer to turn the property into a working farm and manage volunteer workers. There is something about this that raises my alarm bells. Volunteer workers But the farmer would be paid to manage them. Assumption that volunteers can not manage th

[Community_garden] butterflies not moths (Sorry)

2010-07-27 Thread Karen Jones
Michelle, You didn't make a mistake, you did the smart thing, you asked when you didn't know. But I have seen incidences of people planting bulbs wrong way up, or pruning in the spring and then damning the local nursery for selling them shrubs which did not flower. It never occured to them t

[Community_garden] Butterflies NOT moths!

2010-07-26 Thread karen jones
It is butterflies catepillars not moths that eat holes in members of the Mustard Family. The butterfly is called the Cabbage white Butterfly. The difference between moths and butterflys are not that one is coloured and the other is white or gray. butterflies have club tipped antennae and moths

Re: [Community_garden] Glass Greenhouses

2010-07-25 Thread karen jones
Hi Diann, A well designed glass house is a thing of true beauty. But in terms of cost, out of reach of most (all) community groups.Try your best to convince these people not to 'want' a Glasshouse. Unless they are dripping with cash, Have a very appropriate site and access to a Glasshouse e

[Community_garden] addendum to Pigeon Compost

2010-07-22 Thread Karen Jones
In the last post concerning diseases that are transmissable through pigeon feces I included this url: http://www.avianweb.com/pigeonassociateddiseases.html Of all the diseases listed, please note which ones have been detected in the feces as a route of transmission. Lots. There is a reason

[Community_garden] Pigeon Guano in Compost

2010-07-22 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, Further to pigeon guano in compost. Feral pigeons have been identified with mycotic,(fungal) bacterial, protozoal, chlamydial, rickettsial, and parasitic diseases as well as dermatosis (Weber 1979). these can be transmitted to humans and other animals. Check it out. http://www.avia

Re: [Community_garden] Honey bee hives in the community garden

2010-07-04 Thread karen jones
Hi All, I remember a discussion about honey bees in the garden May of this year. Warren mentioned the Backwards Beekeepers.Capturing swarms sounds like a really exciting thing to do. I would like to learn how to do it. And sounds like Fred Is a Beekeeper. I wonder how many community gardens

[Community_garden] Elephant in the Garden

2010-06-20 Thread Karen Jones
The Elephant in the Garden. Petrolum and petrolum by-products. Wendell Berry is talking about them. Wendell Berry is a farmer and author who writes on issues of agriculture, the environment, and sustainability. In his 1997 essay "Energy in Agriculture," he blames the rise of fossil fuels for th

[Community_garden] Urbanization of Farm Policy

2010-05-10 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, I have been a big supporter of a small garden for about a decade and really dug my heels in when the local housing authority took over management of community gardens in this area about 2 years ago, they saw the gardens as ephemeral uses of land until social housing could be built, and u

[Community_garden] Don Strikes a Nerve

2010-03-30 Thread karen jones
Bless your heart Don Boekelheide, here in Winnipeg the social agencies who have hijacked community gardens from the community are putting these boxes in every infill housing lot that they can find while trying to shut down a long time in ground community garden. Building boxes is a way to get ri

Re: [Community_garden] Yards to Gardens - connecting gardeners to spaceand resources

2010-03-23 Thread karen jones
Just a reminder about growing food around houses. If your house is 40 years old it has a heavy metal halo around it from construction materials used at that time. Heavy metals are incredibly persistant in the environment. So if you are growing vegetables, probably a good idea not to grow around

Re: [Community_garden] School Gardens and Where out Food Comes From

2010-03-17 Thread karen jones
Thank you all for contributing to the discussion about School Gardens. I still don't think that they would tell you where your food comes from! But they do lots of other good things, which are valuable too. So I voted for the Organic School Garden at 107 Public School in Brooklyn. Look at yeste

[Community_garden] It's Dirty and It Stinks

2010-03-16 Thread karen jones
I was reading an old Rodales Organic Gardening today, dated 1981. Organic Gardening never goes out of date. Mr. Rodale was lamenting the fact that soil was being degraded at the rate of 26 tons per minute. Someone years ago talked about extinctions world wide and called the Panda a charasmatic

[Community_garden] School Gardens and Where out Food Comes From

2010-03-16 Thread karen jones
I am of mixed minds about school gardens, not sure they teach children where our food comes from. It might be a chance for kids to get outdoors and that is good. it might be able to show them that there are life processes and that is good. But our food does not come from community gardens or s

[Community_garden] Zoning for Community Gardens

2010-03-13 Thread karen jones
Congratulations Doug, Community Gardeners and the city of Plattsburg. Permitted use as Community Gardens in all kinds of zoning is what we already have, although it hasn't been aknowledged. That is good for our garden at the moment. Our garden is zoned Commercial, a death sentence for a garden.

[Community_garden] Legal Agreements

2010-03-13 Thread karen jones
Hi, Can anybody point me to copies of legal agreement including leases, that municipalities have with gardeners? Ad Hoc written agreements would be welcome too. Thanks muchly, Karen ___ The American Community Gardening Association listserve is o

[Community_garden] Japanese Knot Weed

2010-03-09 Thread Karen Jones
Thought that some of you might be interested in this article on Japanese Knot weed. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8555378.stm Cauliflower is nothing but cabbage with a college education. Mark Twain -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <

[Community_garden] Planners in the Garden

2010-03-06 Thread karen jones
Hi All, I have only been involved in Community Gardening for about a decade. During that time I have seen Community Gardens in this part of the world go from being a truly grass roots, democratic. self managed type of thing to something that the Government has seemed to hijack for the purpose of

[Community_garden] Conference Call on BrownFields

2010-03-04 Thread karen jones
Hi All, A week or so ago, ACGA hosted a conference call on Brownfields or urban soils, I just remember seeing the notices and thinking, that looks interesting, but was unable to participate myself. I wonder if there will be a transcript or some way of listening to the call on the ACGA website?

Re: [Community_garden] Best edible plants in Zone 5 rain garden?

2010-02-24 Thread karen jones
Please take note of what Becky has said about the safety of using a rain garden for growing food. The same can be said for water collected off of certain kinds of roofs. I am always surprised when gardeners think, and they often do, that they can just plant anywhere, and because the idea of a g

[Community_garden] The Garden 41st and Almeda South Central Los Angeles

2010-02-04 Thread Karen Jones
Further to successes and failures in gardens check this out http://www.cinemawithoutborders.com/news/127/ARTICLE/1790/2009-02-12.html I may be just a wimp, but every time I see it my eyes fill with tears. Is this an unsuccessful garden? No, No, No! As far as I am concerned this is a very s

[Community_garden] newspaper garden writer

2010-02-04 Thread Karen Jones
Hi all, I have to start by saying that I love ACGA and the openness to all types of discussion on this list serve! What a huge resource for all types of gardeners and thanks to the folks that keep it going. As well as being a community gardener I am on the local council of Women and we have a

[Community_garden] Newspaper Garden Writer/Reply to Libby

2010-02-02 Thread Karen Jones
Hi If you are looking for a story about lack of planning look no further than Montreal. Its garden policy looks good on paper, but a couple of years ago they shut down 59 community gardens as being toxic. If they hadn't needed the land for infill housing, I bet they would probably be still tox

Re: [Community_garden] Agriculture/Horticulture

2010-02-02 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Lorri, You are not a community gardener if you are growing in your back yard. Community gardening is done by a community. I would think that a farm, is different from a garden in having livestock or poultry. What do you think? Mini-farm or backyard gardener I am producing in my

[Community_garden] Agriculture/Horticulture

2010-02-01 Thread Karen Jones
This has been bugging me for a while, so I am going to get it off of my chest. People who talk about 'urban agriculture' maybe don't know what agriculture means. Some crops are agricultural crops, some are horticultural crops. What is the difference? There is a legal as well as common usage

[Community_garden] Research: Land Tenure?

2010-01-25 Thread Karen Jones
re: Research Question: In a book called "City Bountiful', which you all should read if you haven't , because it is a history of Community Gardening In North America, the thing that comes out over and over and over again is land tenure. It might be helpful if someone could research the differen

[Community_garden] Living Plants, Living Communities

2010-01-14 Thread Karen Jones
Hi, If any of you are withing traveling distance of the Royal Botanic Gardens Burlington (Ontario) you might want to check out this event: Living Plants, Living Communities-Exploring Sustainable Horticulture for the 21st Century. 16-19 February http://rbg.ca/cisb/2010symp/ See you there. Kar

[Community_garden] Hardiness Zones Changes

2010-01-07 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, Thought you might find this interesting. http://www.arborday.org/media/mapchanges.cfm Changes of the hardiness zone maps in the last 20 years. Does anyone know if this info is available in Canada? Karen Cauliflower is nothing but cabbage with a college education. Mark Twain --

[Community_garden] Community Economic Development

2010-01-03 Thread Karen Jones
Hello Community Gardeners, Here in Manitoba we are what is called a have-not province, which means we depend on Federal equalization grants for our economic well being. Currently there is money coming from the Federal Government to support Community Economic Devel

[Community_garden] Community Supported Plant Starts

2009-10-26 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, I know that Seattle Tilth has a Community Plant Sale of edible plants each spring. I have contacted them for the same information which I am asking you all. are there any other programmes like this out there and if so, how are they organized, I don't just mean the plant sales, but

[Community_garden] Botanic Latin/Binomial Nomenclature

2009-09-25 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Michele, Your question was how do I find the Botanic names of fruit and veg and second how to knowhow the families are related. Two very different questions. Some of it you know already. Iris, Viola, Rosa, Maize. Just about the names first, botanic names are binomials or two names. The Fir

[Community_garden] ashphalt shingles

2009-09-22 Thread Karen Jones
I know that rainwater collected from ashpalt shingles is not acceptable for drinking purposes because of the hydrocarbons in. I don't think it would be too good for the soil either, but haven't seen any studies about the produce from earth watered with hydrocarbon contaminated water. Please sha

[Community_garden] Community Buy In

2009-09-17 Thread Karen Jones
Just a few comments about this post.If everybody has to agree about everything at the beginning, nothing will ever get done. The silence, or agreeing not to disagree method sounds kind of anti-democratic. I wouldn't want to be involved in a garden that had these rules. Attempts at top down co

[Community_garden] Garden Design

2009-08-31 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Lori, You might find this site useful for your garden design http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/design/ One principle of design that is often overlooked when designing gardens, or any other open space, is 'lines of desire'. Ignore these at your peril. They are not going to go away. In Finland th

[Community_garden] Shredded tires for mulch

2009-07-10 Thread Karen Jones
Re Garden Paths and Shredded tires Hi Folks, If you are even considering using shredded tires for mulch please think again. We had a long discussion on this list many months ago which would be on the ACGA archive. I seem to remember the consensus was that, while tires are an unfortunate bypro

[Community_garden] Thank you Betsy Johnson

2009-06-21 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Everyone, In late Feb. of this year, a message from Betsy Johnson came on the list serve saying : Heads up, this is coming your way, and it is good for community gardens and she included a link to LEED for Neighbourhood Development. I followed the link and agreed with Betsy. This is good for

[Community_garden] Questions on Collecting Rainwater in Colorado

2009-05-07 Thread Karen Jones
I looked at the link to the news item on illegality of collecting rainwater in Colorado. I found it hard to believe that 97% of rainwater in Colorado does not get into the rivers but evaporates. Comments? Isn't it the Colorado river which does not drain into the ocean anymore because people (go

[Community_garden] Bee hives at the Chelsea Physic Garden

2009-05-03 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Wade, Your question about Beehives reminded me of the Chelsea Physic Garden which has 5 bee hives. they have put a wire fence around the hives to keep people out. Here is their risk assment of the beehives. Remember this is one of the top 10 gardens in Britain, for visitors. Have they had an

[Community_garden] Plans for Tool Shed (Universal Design)

2009-04-07 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, I have been searching for a couple of years for a plan for a tool shed which meets the standards of Universal Design. for those who aren't familiar with universal design, it's underlying principle is 'access for all'. So, if you had someone in a wheel chair, or an elderly person, or a c

[Community_garden] further to Monsanto (again)

2009-03-30 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, Sorry to have opened this oft opened can of worms again, Monsanto and patenting Life: Greenpeace's take on it http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/monsanto-pig-patent-111 And the Percy Schmizer case (there are quite a few of these) The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled in

[Community_garden] Get out and grow

2009-03-30 Thread Karen Jones
There is a bit of fear around these Farm Bills. Some of that fear may be justified, based on history. Fructose in America, for one. It is banned as food substance in Europe and South America and Asia and Africa. But it is good for the corn farmers in the American Mid-West. Here in Canada we

[Community_garden] A waste of good gin?

2009-03-23 Thread Karen Jones
Robert, I encourage your scientific curiosity, but in this case, it seems like a waste of good gin! Karen 1. Alcohol Tomato Experiment Concluded after 12 Weeks (Robert Mader) 'I never put on a pair of shoes until I've worn them five ye

[Community_garden] Community Gardening Day

2009-03-17 Thread Karen Jones
Kathryn, Maybe it would be nice to celebrate with all community gardens in Winnipeg first, before taking on the Continent. I think you hold your housing authority garden tour in late September. Promoting the use of perennials in the gardens you manage would give nice fresh spring gardens and al

[Community_garden] Green Manuring

2009-03-11 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, When I worked at RBG Kew in the Temperate nursery we rotated green manuring at different parts of the nursery in this way. First clover. Just before it blooms, cut it down, leave it there. Let it grow again and cut it down again, just before it blooms. Then till this in and plant an ann

[Community_garden] March Teleconference

2009-03-07 Thread Karen Jones
I have never taken part in teleconferencing, what is it about? How does it happen? What is the protocol? Thanks. Karen 2. ACGA March Teleconference (Vicki Garrett) TELECONFERENCE FOR ACGA MEMBERS To Join ACGA go to http://www.communitygarden.org/support-us/become-a-member/index.php. Join

[Community_garden] Gate Keepers for Community Gardens

2009-03-06 Thread Karen Jones
Hi, We do have a problem here in Winnipeg. In an area of town that 20 years ago was some what rundown, a government supported agency called West Broadway Development Corporation came in to 'help us'. They purchased a community garden that was established by a bunch of poor gardeners, because the

[Community_garden] Edible Cities

2009-03-02 Thread Karen Jones
Hey, what a great idea from Seattle. Do any of you have Community Supprted Plant Starts? Karen Cascadian Edible Landscapes potential customers, This sounds like a really great service. If I had more legal control over the property that I live on, I would consider hosting a greenhouse. I want

[Community_garden] Worm Digest

2009-03-01 Thread Karen Jones
Hello everyone, I was listening to BBC Gardener's Question time this morning and the topic of worms came up. Being a worm lover my ears perked up. Apparently when worms eat organic matter they do not decompose the plant hormones but excrete them into the soil. This is very interesting so I che

[Community_garden] Fish make good fertilizer

2009-02-27 Thread Karen Jones
I am tired of reading about fish on this list serve! Fish do not live in gardens, plants and soil and soil dwelling and air dwelling creatures live in gardens. And gardeners. Gardens are soil, fish are water the last time I looked. Fish make good fertilizer. Get your own fish list serve, pleas

[Community_garden] Gypsum in Clay

2009-02-27 Thread Karen Jones
If you have clay that is so aged you could make pottery out of it I would look for a more hospitable soil. Where I am, Is an area with lime induced iron chlorisois. Lots of clay too. I would advise nobody under those conditions to add any form or shape of calcium to their soils. Your soils ar

[Community_garden] Snow-sowing

2009-02-26 Thread Karen Jones
Here in the far north we can feel spring in the lengthing days, although a very cold last couple of days. minus 25, not to mention the wind-chill factor. Jennifer, at our garden has been 'snow-sowing' perennials. There are many beautiful perennial plants which are native to this part of the wor

[Community_garden] City Bountiful

2009-02-21 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Everyone, For people who are new to the list and wondering why so much politics I would highly encourage you to go to your local library and check out 'City Bountiful', it is the big picture. It gives the history of community gardens in North America from the end of the 19th century. The may

[Community_garden] Establishing Gardens

2009-02-20 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Samantha, What you are doing, trying to establish a community garden is definitely a worthwhile thing to engage in.Don't give up. Look for partners in other community organizations that share your values. Health Care providers are often right on the money. Gardening supports active healthy l

[Community_garden] Calm Down

2009-02-20 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Everyone, I did not say to try to ignore politicians, they are a fact of life. I just mean that in Canada, for example, we would not want especially the Liberal Party of Canada Community Garden Association, or the New Democratic Party Community Garden Association, nor would we particularly w

[Community_garden] Politicians and Gardens

2009-02-20 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Folks, Call me jaded, but I would be reluctant to have anyone on the Board who had a 'political agenda'. It doesn't matter who it is. I guess the only way I would approve of something like that is if the politician was an active community gardener. Which I don't expect to see in my lifetime.

[Community_garden] Two rides down the garden path

2009-02-17 Thread Karen Jones
--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Mike McGrath wrote: From: Mike McGrath Subject: [Community_garden] Rubber Tires as Raised Beds To: "Phillip Williams" , community_garden@list.communitygarden.org Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 2:10 PM PS: if anyone is foolish enough (in my eyes) to do this, make sure th

[Community_garden] dirty old tires

2009-02-17 Thread Karen Jones
7. Rubber Tires as Raised Beds (Mike McGrath) -- -- This is kind of funny. The web-site listed below which tells people to use tires in their gardens, because they are clogging up the garbage

[Community_garden] Eminent Domain

2009-02-16 Thread Karen Jones
-Genya, Eminent domain is a fine concept. Much harder to establish. Do you have a gardener who has been gardening at this garden for at least 20 years? You need to find a lawyer who will do pro bono work. Otherwise you have got to devote yourself to going through the books. I know that in Toronto

[Community_garden] List etiquette

2009-02-16 Thread Karen Jones
Doreen, Maybe not everyone is as thick skinned or as sharped tongued as you. Maybe time to roll out the list-serve etiquitte. I have seen some things on this post which I found offensive. Most of which I ignore. I saw a little comment on a baseball game which went on for some time. I scrolled th

[Community_garden] Aquaculture in old buildings

2009-02-16 Thread Karen Jones
Could someone tell me why aquaculture in old buildings is such a topic on a community garden list serve? In my dictionary, gardens don't happen in buildings. Old or new. They are outdoor things. The last time I looked anyway. What am I missing? Thanks, Karen __

[Community_garden] Soil: The future is in our hands.

2009-02-16 Thread Karen Jones
Hello Mike McG, Soils have all the characteristics of Non-renewable resources. Soils take a long time to be developed, thousands of years. If you are interested in how soil is formed google 'Jennys soil forming factors'. There are seven of them including things like topography, climate, etc...

[Community_garden] Soil Testing for Heavy Metals

2009-02-14 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Robin in Portland, It is a good idea to have your soil tested for Heavy Metals, Lead, Nickle and Cadmium are good ones to test for. We had our garden tested several years ago. A lab in your area can send you the bottles etc you need to collect in to by post.

[Community_garden] Rhizobium for peas and beans

2009-02-01 Thread Karen Jones
Rhizobium is the bacteria which forms nodules on the roots of plants in the legume family, including lupins sweet peas etc. You probably have it in your soil already unless you have been using high amounts of industrially non-organic fertilizer. These kill naturally occuring Rhizobium. Rhizobium

[Community_garden] Literacy and Community Gardens

2009-02-01 Thread Karen Jones
Hello Everyone, Our local library is giving out grants of $1,000 to promote literacy with community planning input. There is a little community garden starting up in an area of town which has alot of immigrants who are not fluent in either of our official languages. I thought that maybe we coul

[Community_garden] Production of Vegetable Mould

2009-01-30 Thread Karen Jones
Many of you might know that Feb. 12 is the 200th birthday of Charles Darwin. Many of you may know that he is famous for the Evolution of the Species idea. But, just before he died he wrote what I think is his best work, 'On the production of Vegetable Mould by Earthworms'. I am more inclined to

[Community_garden] community gardens and literacy programming

2009-01-28 Thread Karen Jones
Hi Everybody, Our local library is offering grants to community organizations to promote literacy and you know how versatile community gardens are... any models out there for this kind of programming? Thanks, As Always, Karen "Man's attitude toward nature is today critically important simp

[Community_garden] Clueless in Canada, Biochar

2009-01-28 Thread Karen Jones
I was surprised at the acclaim that biochar was getting on this list serve, because I thought organic matter itself was good for the soil and the things that live in it. Isn't the residue of the process a particulate ash? I suppose it makes no carbon emissions? As for eating a peck of dirt, f

[Community_garden] Urban Zoning Codes for Preserved Land

2009-01-15 Thread Karen Jones
Hi All, this came up on the urban list serve and I thought, some gardeners out there might be able to help. If you can respond to this request please share it. ThanksKaren Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:45 AM To: ur...@lists.ltanet.org Subject: [Urban] Zoning codes for preserved u

[Community_garden] Access to the Pond

2009-01-13 Thread Karen Jones
Steven, You hit the nail on the head with your 'access to the pond' metaphor. Thanks for taking the time to think this over. Your thoughtfulness shows. Karen Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:58:22 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Garrett Subject: [Community_garden] Teaching a (wo)man to fish To

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