Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread D Freye
> In short, the upgrade question is > intimately tied to MS's credibility. You can agree with Tom or not, > and perhaps is style is needlessly off-putting, but MS "bashing" > is completely on topic. It is an opinion on whether MS marketing claims > are credible. I would aggree with

Re: [CGUYS] FIOS

2007-08-08 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
There is no guarantee as to whether a power outage is short or not. I do remember seeing generators chained to posts for a few days after the hurricane passed through. A week without power is not that unheard of in some areas of the country. It is my plan to keep a POTS line in addition to a FI

Re: [CGUYS] FIOS

2007-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Your service in metro DC is wonderful compared to where I live on the eastern shore. There's no competition. Speeds are slow and slower. Wow! I'll take that 30Mbps FIOS. How much does it cost? We're not likely to see FIOS around here for at least another 5 years, if ever. We have no choice but

Re: [CGUYS] Compaq, Vista doesn't connect

2007-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Quentin Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: If you're near the router, try hard-wire connecting to it. If you still can't connect then its a Vista bug. For my new Dell Vista Llaptop, I found it was a refusal by Vista to communicate with the router. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233 Ha

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread Eric S. Sande
I'm still an amateur at 3D, but this is my understanding of what's going on. You're not an amateur at anything Vicky, as far as I'm concerned. You're right. It's about polygon count (thousands, not hundreds), antialiasing, anisotropic filtering, shading, textures, et al. The GPU is a dedicate

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Paul Meyer
As sympathetic as I I go away on vacation and all heck breaks loose... As sympathetic as I am to call for more respect on this list, I think Chris has missed one important point about the Vista upgrade issue. It is NOT a purely technical question in terms of evaluating features and performance

Re: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto

2007-08-08 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Ed Whipple > iTunes (I think), Picasa2, Adobe Lightroom, and whatever > ships with Vista all manage your images and allow limited > global editing. They do not change the underlying image > files instead they maintain a record of the edits in a > separate data base so they can be undone anytime.

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games

2007-08-08 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Tom Piwowar wrote: Looks to me like you are describing brute-force calculation. The beauty of things like JPEG and MPEG is that they only render what the human eye perceives. That greatly reduces the computational burden. Looks like the game developers don't take such an appro

Re: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto

2007-08-08 Thread Ed Whipple
iTunes (I think), Picasa2, Adobe Lightroom, and whatever ships with Vista all manage your images and allow limited global editing. They do not change the underlying image files instead they maintain a record of the edits in a separate data base so they can be undone anytime. Adobe Bridge (Photo

[CGUYS] Vista or XP

2007-08-08 Thread Harvey Simon
I'm a bit surprised that no one has brought up the issue of security in this discussion (excuse me if I missed it). Given that XP is generally considered to be a less than robustly secure operating system, and given that Vista's code is generally reported to be better written, from a security stan

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread mike
Some research shows humans can see 10 million or more different colors. A Digg article I saw referencing a Pittsburg story said some lucky women can see as many as 100 million. This is not unlike the MP3 argument...some say they can tell between 192 and 256bit. Some can't tell between 128 and 31

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
Looks to me like you are describing brute-force calculation. The beauty of things like JPEG and MPEG is that they only render what the human eye perceives. That greatly reduces the computational burden. Looks like the game developers don't take such an approach. >To expand on Art's very good an

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread mike
A good, if not old primer for the basics of what is going on in you video card and it's RAM. http://www.dansdata.com/gz014.htm Mike On 8/8/07, Vicky Staubly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Art Clemons wrote: > > Tom Piowar: > >> What could they be possibly doing with so much R

[CGUYS] Compaq, Vista doesn't connect

2007-08-08 Thread Quentin Fisher
If you're near the router, try hard-wire connecting to it. If you still can't connect then its a Vista bug. For my new Dell Vista Llaptop, I found it was a refusal by Vista to communicate with the router. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233 Quentin Fisher Bethesda, MD ***

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Michael Wosnick
I have to agree completely. As the one who started this last (XP vs Vista) thread, I have to say that the banter and the bashing has always been here, and most of the time I find it amusing (as long as the barbs are not directed at me!). Sometimes I find it frustrating, and sometimes I just shak

Re: [CGUYS] FIOS

2007-08-08 Thread Mason Miller
I still had my copper intact when I had FIOS because my local telco was MCI, not Verizon. But I also have a backup generator for my home, so I would not have to run off the local battery even if I had been on Verizon for phone. The TV picutre and channel selection was far better than Comcast,

Re: [CGUYS] Vista or XP

2007-08-08 Thread Michael Wosnick
Point made and taken. That was indeed not an entirely fair comment. Thanks for your synopsis as well. I think I am pretty much persuaded by the responses that I shall just stick to XP for now. Michael John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you are being unfair. I never responded to y

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Art Clemons wrote: Tom Piowar: What could they be possibly doing with so much RAM? A 1680 x 1050 screen that is 48 bits deep = 11 MB. 512 MB = 46 screens of data if totally umcompressed (which would be silly). Moderately compressed this would hold 500 to 1000 screens. Anybo

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Uh Tom, by now I'ld have expected you to note that video cards have to >do more than remember screens, they also have to render them from the >data presented by the computer, and also convert them from digital form >to analog Shading and rendering don't require that kind of RAM. Back when I was

Re: [CGUYS] FIOS

2007-08-08 Thread John DeCarlo
On 8/7/07, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I spoke to someone who got FIOS, hated it--not as promised, and was told > that he couldn't go back to POTS. Since FIOS isn't even necessary for > high speed broadband, and is very expensive, it appears to be a really > bad deal. His phone/broadban

Re: [CGUYS] Vista or XP

2007-08-08 Thread John DeCarlo
I think you are being unfair. I never responded to your original query. I think you only got 2 or 3 responses to your original query. I responded to someone making snide remarks about someone else's snide remarks. The people who responded to you did a fine job - no one really knows of anything

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread rlsimon
This list has been an ongoing source of informative postings that, over several years, have never failed to be useful, insightful, and sometimes amusing; rarely has anything been distasteful. I, for one, am grateful for all the trouble many have gotten me out of neatly and with tolerance of my ent

Re: [CGUYS] Google Maps -- Amazing Once Again

2007-08-08 Thread Ralph Sierra
I agree, it is fantastic. However, I was only able to discover this after finally biting the bullet and upgrading to high-speed internet (FIOS) Otherwise, Google (and the other new-version) maps take too long to download over dial-up lines. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>> Anybody know what all this RAM is used for? >Fragging bad guys and watching millions of tiny objects get thrown around >the screen. I don't think so. First you would not visually see the difference between hundreds and millions of "tiny objects" so if they programmed "millions" they are just

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread Art Clemons
Tom Piowar: > What could they be possibly doing with so much RAM? > > A 1680 x 1050 screen that is 48 bits deep = 11 MB. 512 MB = 46 screens of > data if totally umcompressed (which would be silly). Moderately > compressed this would hold 500 to 1000 screens. > > Anybody know what all this RA

Re: [CGUYS] Phone & Internet: Comcast, Verizon or other?

2007-08-08 Thread John Mealey III
I pay $238 for four cells with 2100 prime minutes, 30Down/5up FiOS two land lines with no extras and Primus Long Distance. Happy with this and it meets the needs currently of the family and business. It does average out to be more than the cost of electricity, but less than gas heat in the drafty

Re: [CGUYS] MacBook Pro not remembering settings

2007-08-08 Thread Michael Moser
Tom- Thanks for the advice. This is an Intel Mac, so I followed the instructions from the PMU reset Knowledge Base article and unfortunately it didn't make a difference. It's not a big deal unless this is indicative of a deeper problem. -Mike Moser On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:18 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>This is an external two drive enclosure, not a tray. Why bother with >eSata? Speed...being able to hot swap if you wanted. As far as >incompatibilities go, I'm on windows so SATA is fine. You go ahead and hot swap the drive that the OS is running from. I'll watch and try not to bust a gut lau

Re: [CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread mike
Fragging bad guys and watching millions of tiny objects get thrown around the screen. Mike On 8/8/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >The absolute minimum for a > >current DX9C game would (to be playable at a decently high resolution) be > 2 > >gigs of main memory and at least 512 meg

Re: [CGUYS] replacement for iPhoto

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I tried iPhoto and think it's awful. All the pictures always >seem to remain in the library even after they are categorized. >I do edit some of the pictures, cropping and resizing (make >some for web shots, some for thumbnails for bigger links - sort >of like story boards, etc. for how I think) >

Re: [CGUYS] Vista --> XP Pro

2007-08-08 Thread db
Do the Vista OS media also have XP on them for downgrading purposes? Tom Piwowar wrote: If I don't have the original computer, am I completely forbidden to use it on a different computer? My reading of the MS EULA is that an OS that is bundled with a computer is only for use with that co

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Re: Memory question.Tom? But, would the flash things running overnight on a Mozilla type browser cause OSX to close? Looks like there may be more than one thing amiss. Need to clear things out to get a better picture of what is causeing your CPU problem. This shutting down of OSX is ha

Re: [CGUYS] Vista --> XP Pro

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>If I don't have the original computer, am I completely forbidden to use >it on a different computer? My reading of the MS EULA is that an OS that is bundled with a computer is only for use with that computer. If you own a retail version of the OS, that retail version can be installed on any co

[CGUYS] Mega RAM for Games [Was: Vista or XP]

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>The absolute minimum for a >current DX9C game would (to be playable at a decently high resolution) be 2 >gigs of main memory and at least 512 megs of dedicated graphics memory >serving a fast (ATI 1900 chipset equivalent or above) graphics card on a 16 >lane PCIE bus What could they be possib

Re: [CGUYS] Vista --> XP Pro

2007-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Did they purchase XP, or did the laptop mfg do a free downgrade? This empirical evidence may contribute to the discussion: My son is starting freshman year at college. Two of his friends ordered new laptops through their Universities, which were delivered with Vista. Both students are Comp.

Re: [CGUYS] Vista --> XP Pro

2007-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
I don't know, what does your lawyer say? On 8/8/07, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any way to use a Dell XP Pro installer on a Compaq notebook? Thx The Dell is gone. All that's left is the disk. Hmmm. That's odd. I can use the same installer on my Macs. The licensing dark forest is re

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>This shutting down of OSX is happening EVERY night now but doesn't >occur when I leave the same things running all day. Again this a.m. >I had the transparent box telling me OSX had shut down and to turn >off the computer. I don't know of anything that I've set to run over >night. Do any

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Where do I find the logs? Run Console from the Utilities menu. Click on the "Logs" icon in the toolbar. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMA

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Vista?"; your response was that >(a) MS needs the money and (b) hasn't had an original idea in years. Go over to the archive and reread the thread from the top. You will not see anyone saying "Windows sucks." I said they copied Widgets, but I did not have anything good to say about Apple in the

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Jordman
0pen a Finder window and search for logs. There are some in Mac HD/Library/Logs and others in (your name)/Library/Logs Paula Minor wrote: Have you checked your logs to see what time it's doing it? Same time every night? What programs are running, any errors before it shuts down in the log?

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Snyder, Mark
After about ten years, it qualifies as whining (or has the same effect): "Stop posting unfriendly posts..." Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Nobody's whining, Mark, unless you consider a request for better behavior to be "whining."

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
>The list is what it is, has been this way for many years, and >whining will not change it. Nobody's whining, Mark, unless you consider a request for better behavior to be "whining." * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - P

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Paula Minor
Have you checked your logs to see what time it's doing it? Same time every night? What programs are running, any errors before it shuts down in the log? Where do I find the logs? Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive

[CGUYS] Fusion

2007-08-08 Thread mike
http://lunapark6.com/vmware-fusion-for-mac-10.html A review of the new Fusion for mac...VMWare answer to Parallels. Looks good at least from the review. Mike * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Snyder, Mark
You gotta pay to play on this list, folks. Most of the bantering here is fairly tame stuff with few hard core flamers. If you can't take _that_ perhaps you want the we all think the same list. Those who are now complaining want to discuss windows issues without unhelpful/unfriendly interruption.

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question...Betty

2007-08-08 Thread Jordman
At this point I would start by letting it run all night with NO applications running. If it still has problems , then you've eliminated a lot of questions. If it did still have problems, I'd install OS X on an external HD and see how that runs. I have a little partition on a Firewire HD just in

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread mike
I have to concur with this in spades. I can't recall the last post that was a simple bash at Apple for no reason. Or a post containing blatant misinformation about Apple to try and make them look bad. Some users on this list put out a constant never ending flow of BS about MS/windows. They don't

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread mike
Have you checked your logs to see what time it's doing it? Same time every night? What programs are running, any errors before it shuts down in the log? Mike On 8/8/07, Paula Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> But, would the flash things running overnight on a Mozilla type > >> browser cau

Re: [CGUYS] Compaq, Vista doesn't connect

2007-08-08 Thread mike
I had this problem when i tried to connect a laptop i was troubleshooting on my own network. Then I remembered I had mac filtering turned on in the router. After I turned that off I was fine. Mike On 8/8/07, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My husband picked up a 'hot' deal on a new Comp

Re: [CGUYS] Wine Emulation for Windows games

2007-08-08 Thread mike
They won't run well. You're better off dual booting linux and then just using windows for games. Mike On 8/8/07, John Mealey III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of the stumbling blocks for some folks switching to > Linux is the Microsoft Windows OS games don't run. > > Can they be run in Linu

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>If someone wants to start "Windows sucks" threads, fine. Start as many as >are wanted; that causes me no heartburn. What makes me crazy is the "Windows >sucks" responses when someone asks a purely Windows question. It's such a >waste of everyone's time. --

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
>And in a society (ours) that encourages partisanship, conflict, >and intense competition in every corner of the business environment >it's not surprising that people take one side or another with >something as important as computers. Constance, you are quite right. What I've been trying to do

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question...Betty

2007-08-08 Thread Paula Minor
Have you tried to run X on another account? As admin, you'll be able to use your files. Does the second account crash? Which maintenance utilities have you used? I've fou No I haven't tried that Betty. I will make a new account and see what happens. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journ

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Paula Minor
But, would the flash things running overnight on a Mozilla type browser cause OSX to close? Looks like there may be more than one thing amiss. Need to clear things out to get a better picture of what is causeing your CPU problem. This shutting down of OSX is happening EVERY night now but do

[CGUYS] Vista --> XP Pro

2007-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This empirical evidence may contribute to the discussion: My son is starting freshman year at college. Two of his friends ordered new laptops through their Universities, which were delivered with Vista. Both students are Comp. Sci./Engineering majors. Both have since gotten downgrades. My son

Re: [CGUYS] Vista --> XP Pro

2007-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know, what does your lawyer say? On 8/8/07, b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any way to use a Dell XP Pro installer on a Compaq notebook? Thx > > Betty * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following co

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Constance Warner
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette >The Mac/Apple sucks - Windows/M$ sucks is part of the price you pay for >getting a list that tailors to both. Why? (And parenthetically, I don't recall seeing a lot of "Mac/Apple sucks".) With items like computers, which are often EXTREMELY AGGRIVATING,

Re: [CGUYS] Compaq, Vista doesn't connect

2007-08-08 Thread db
Not sure about Vista, but XP Pro networking has a capability that disables wifi connections after the computer sees a network via CAT5. If you look at My Network Places/ View Network Connections in XP you can see one or the other is disabled & enable the one you want. Perhaps Vista is simila

Re: [CGUYS] Compaq, Vista doesn't connect

2007-08-08 Thread MrMike6by9
> > Date:Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:03:17 -0400 > From:b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Compaq, Vista doesn't connect > > My husband picked up a 'hot' deal on a new Compaq notebook [almost > free], for basic web surfing and word processing. It connects to the > Internet OK via ethernet, but

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Snyder, Mark
Passions on the list over time influence the culture. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- >The Mac/Apple sucks - Windows/M$ sucks is part of the price you pay for >getting a list that tailors to both. Why? (And parenthetically, I don't recall seeing a lot of "Mac/Apple sucks".)

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-08 Thread Jordman
As stated earlier in this thread, it's a huge CPU hog, among other things. Turn on a CPU monitor and then go to a web page that has it and watch you computer work, hard. Judy Cosler wrote: er, what's the problem with Flash? **

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
>The Mac/Apple sucks - Windows/M$ sucks is part of the price you pay for >getting a list that tailors to both. Why? (And parenthetically, I don't recall seeing a lot of "Mac/Apple sucks".) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFEREN

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Snyder, Mark
The Mac/Apple sucks - Windows/M$ sucks is part of the price you pay for getting a list that tailors to both. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- >This list has always included comments like Tom's. Maybe since he >started the list. Maybe so, but that doesn't mean we have to like

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-08 Thread Judy Cosler
er, what's the problem with Flash? John DeCarlo wrote: On 8/6/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a Firefox plug-in to control the execution of Flash. Tools > Add-ons > Extensions > Get Extensions etc. The big culprit is Flash. I hate it where web sites use Flash when

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
>This list has always included comments like Tom's. Maybe since he >started the list. Maybe so, but that doesn't mean we have to like it, or it has to be that way forever. I have no problem with Tom saying whatever he wants, but it sure would be nice if it were responsive to the question. This

[CGUYS] Vista --> XP Pro

2007-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Any way to use a Dell XP Pro installer on a Compaq notebook? Thx Betty * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list

[CGUYS] Compaq, Vista doesn't connect

2007-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
My husband picked up a 'hot' deal on a new Compaq notebook [almost free], for basic web surfing and word processing. It connects to the Internet OK via ethernet, but the WiFi has problems. It 'sees' the network, but doesn't connect. Reception is poor, even when sitting next to the switch. Recep

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Snyder, Mark
This list has always included comments like Tom's. Maybe since he started the list. You may be better served by a list that is more Windows specific if that is what you want. Mark Snyder -Original Message- > STAY TO THE TOPIC! Exactly. Your response to the member's question was NOT on

Re: [CGUYS] List Etiquette

2007-08-08 Thread Chris Dunford
> STAY TO THE TOPIC! Exactly. Your response to the member's question was NOT on topic. It was just more MS bashing. The question was, "should I upgrade from XP to Vista?"; your response was that (a) MS needs the money and (b) hasn't had an original idea in years. How, exactly, is that "on topic

[CGUYS] Wine Emulation for Windows games

2007-08-08 Thread John Mealey III
One of the stumbling blocks for some folks switching to Linux is the Microsoft Windows OS games don't run. Can they be run in Linux with the Wine emulator? Is it hit or miss? Anyone tried it? Thanks, John * ==> QUICK LI

Re: [CGUYS] FIOS

2007-08-08 Thread Michel Lowe
FiOS is Verizon's brand for fiber-to-the-premises connectivity. FiOS is not a generic term or a technology (like DSL) but an actual brand. If Qwest has a fiber to the prem service it is NOT FiOS. From what I've heard here in the DC area FiOS delivers outstanding throughput at the speeds advertis

Re: [CGUYS] swap drives

2007-08-08 Thread mike
Maybe after you tell us what you are talking about we can all laugh. You might want to go to wikipedia to look up SATA and how it functions. Also might want to read up on putting OS's on seperate drives, they all don't have to go on one drive. I'd give you the url for looking up SATA on wiki, bu

Re: [CGUYS] MacBook Pro not remembering settings

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>so I followed the instructions from the PMU reset Knowledge Base >article and unfortunately it didn't make a difference. >It's not a big deal unless this is indicative of a deeper problem. Next thing to try is Repair Permissions. Then look to see if you have a corrupt Finder plist. *

[CGUYS] FIOS

2007-08-08 Thread mike
Here in AZ qwest's best speed for FIOS is 7mbit. If their FIOS is anything like their dsl then 7mbit is more like 5. I was wondering if FIOS is better on other carriers? If you want high speed here in AZ the only choice is cable. I've talked to Qwest reps who admit they have no plans at all upg