Constance,
Sorry that when I made my suggestion I didn't read all of your email ...
the part about the rotation issue.
I guess what you really need is one of those split vertical keyboards
that you mention. They exist ... I've seen pictures of them but that's all
Check out:
In the future, enough resources to do the job right, within the
budgetary constraints agreed to. If we can't do it acceptably, we
should look for another solution. Hasn't happened in a while. I don't
advocate cheap fixes that don't work. I hate expensive screw-ups. For
now, the financial
I really need to be able to type, because I got laid off and I need
to send out resumes and letters of application. For my own writing
and for first drafts, I can use Dragon Naturally Speaking; but I've
never gotten the error rate down to the point where I could use
Dragon for job
Tax cuts are not spending. The money is not the government's it is
the taxpayer's money.
The neocon mantra. Irrational, but constantly repeated. Of course tax
cuts are spending. To deny that is more cracked economics of the sort
that got us into this mess.
There is direction - the direction
Greedy like people lying to buy a home that was over priced and which
they could not possibly afford?
No greedy like the bankers who told them they could afford it.
Greedy like the appraises who gave an incorrect value for the house.
Greedy like the bankers who foreclosed instead of
Don't forget the home builders...at least in states like AZ...
And the senators like barney frank who pushed for lenders to lend to those
who could not afford..
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Greedy like people lying to buy a home that was over priced and
On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
Tax cuts are not spending. The money is not the government's it is
the taxpayer's money.
The neocon mantra. Irrational, but constantly repeated. Of course tax
cuts are spending. To deny that is more cracked economics of the sort
that got us
Riiight. Another non-answer. You want the freedom to say here is a
problem, gov't to the rescue and damn the cost!. I want a limited
government of enumerated powers that for the most part leaves me alone.
Matthew
On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
That is not an answer.
On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
Greedy like people lying to buy a home that was over priced and which
they could not possibly afford?
No greedy like the bankers who told them they could afford it.
Caveat Emptor. Yes, any fraudulent mortgage broker should be
prosecuted.
Quantify? Who cares what I think is too-little, enough or too-much? I
am not a member of the house or senate. I'm not sure I qualify as your
big-government proponent. I personally am comfortable with the 15-25%
of GDP that is the approximate norm in recent history. I do not include
the rescue
Thank-you Tom,
But honestly, I don't know why you bother with these guys. I know it is
the duty of the informed to push back against the ignorant, especially
after the disaster of the last 8 years, but where do you find the patience?
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Tax cuts are not spending. The money
Tom,
I think you are misusing the term neocon. Most of what you disagree with
the right on are conservative principles, such as minimal government.
Neocons are a special breed of folks, who used to be liberal, but
switched to being conservative (hence the neo) primarily for foreign
Well you can't claim Obama didn't *tell* us he was going to redistribute...
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote:
p.s. One case where I agree with you; tax cuts are indeed spending when you
send IRS payments to people who paid no income tax. Those mean
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090130/fannie_mae_virus.html?.v=5
is it not a bit difficult to put that much data in a place and in a way for it
ALL to be destroyed in one shot by one contract guy?
the wiper has been sitting for 90 days.
this data is about 3 trillion dollars worth of loans. about 30%
Huh? Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al, used to be liberal? In what sense
of the word?
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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Tom,
I think you are misusing the term neocon. Most of what you disagree with
the right on are conservative principles, such as minimal government.
Neocons are
Interesting. Time and time again liberals claim that anyone who
disagrees with them is ignorant. You might consider that those of us
who are not your brand of liberal have a different value system and /
or set of starting assumptions and engage those.
Matthew
On Jan 30, 2009, at 10:43
You are a one-trick pony. Any tax rate appears to be too much. You
want an absolute number and are exaggerating the percentage of GDP
spent by the US government to push your case.
No response to your question will satisfy you, and you appear to swig
more cool aid and demand another answer. I
p.s. One case where I agree with you; tax cuts are indeed spending when
you send IRS payments to people who paid no income tax.
I keep hearing Fox journalists and others say this, but it's quite
misleading. People who paid no income tax is not the same as people who
paid no tax at all. The
Did you even read it? He said Bush/Cheney aren't neo...rumsfeld was never
even mentioned. What was said is reposted below.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Snyder, Mark (IT-EI)
mark.sny...@ngc.comwrote:
Huh? Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al, used to be liberal? In what sense
of the word?
Steve at Verizon wrote:
Tom,
I think you are misusing the term neocon. Most of what you disagree
with the right on are conservative principles, such as minimal
government.
Neocons are a special breed of folks, who used to be liberal, but
switched to being conservative (hence the neo)
No greedy like the bankers who told them they could afford it.
Greedy like the appraises who gave an incorrect value for the house.
Greedy like the bankers who foreclosed instead of correcting the original
error.
Greedy like the bankers who flooded the market with empty homes, forcing
the
Are you implying I respond randomly? Or can't/won't read?
Bush and Cheney were hailed as neocons by self-described neocons when
they were elected. If the neocons now claim they are no longer pure
enough to qualify, I will not drink their cool aid. They were and are
neocons, among other
the jobless rate went up in 38, not down.
I hate having to disagree with you, Mike, but that's cherry picking. Here
are the unemployment rates from the start of the New Deal to WWII:
1933 24.75
1934 21.60
1935 19.97
1936 16.80
1937 14.18
1938 18.91
1939 17.05
1940 14.45
Sending money to someone who pays no taxes is not a cut. You can't
cut less than 0. That is a handout, pure and simple.
Please see my earlier response to Mike on this. No one who pays no taxes
is getting a payment.
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Subject: Re: Circuit City deals
The liquidation sale is supposed to go through March. I wonder what happens
to merchandise that is unsold by, say, the last week of
I did not say the US Government, as in the Federal Government - I am
referring to government at all levels.
Federal outlays alone were 20.9% of GDP in 2008 according to the
Congressional Budget Office. You think the States and Local
Governments don't spend another 10%?
The data is out
Source this one please.
I grant that some neocons hailed their interventionist policies post
9-11, but agreement on aspects of foreign policy does not make them
neocons by any definition of neocon which I am familiar.
Matthew
On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Snyder, Mark (IT-EI) wrote:
Jeff;
That is exactly the presumption some make - that the government should
allocate income to the population, using the tax code as a tool of
social engineering to enact the currently fashionable conception of
fairness.
If spending on goods and services is stimulative, then most tax
National newspapers, columnists of all stripes. What did you call their
base?
Does the definition of neocon change in the way your definition of
government tax burden changes from jurisdiction to jurisdiction?
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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Source this one please.
I grant
Quoting Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com:
Do you know of a single corporation that simply gives money to its
employees and tells them to freely do what they want? I think not. Then
why do you insist that the government should be run this way? Sheer
nonsense.
Doesn't Google do that? Not that they
That sounds like a whack-job, then; you get to walk around and change
the government tax rate as you go. Expanding one's definitions as one
goes is an idiot's game. That does not wash with me; you don't even
know where I am. It is just a ploy to make it look ooh, ooh, scary!
You might as well
I have a permanent physical challenge so I am congizant of your plight. One
suggestion nobody has had is to get yourself a used Palm device (I have a
IIIc which is great). Then get ahold of a program called Jot. The learning
curve is flat and you can do lots of text relatively fast on the touch
Greedy like the bankers who flooded the market with empty homes, forcing
the market into a death spiral.
I see you've bought into the Paulson/Bush plan, hook, line and sinker:
high prices good, low prices bad.
Repeat as needed.
Unless you ask by jurisdiction, federal rate, state rate, county or
city, town - and which ones, since service needs vary by location, your
question makes no sense. Does government direction include the HOAs and
their fees? National economy, but federal, state and various local
government? Keep
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/18/why-google-employees-quit/
http://advice.cio.com/meridith_levinson/lessons_learned_from_people_whove_quit_google
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote:
Doesn't Google do that? Not that they give out buckets of money, but don't
800's will work fine, if they fit in the space.
there are a lot of counterfeit batteries out there. the counterfeit
Nokia batteries even come with the nokia holo.
batteries need cobalt to be high quailty. cobalt is expensive.
cheap batteries = no cobalt. other than buying directly from
That is exactly the presumption some make - that the government should
allocate income to the population, using the tax code as a tool of
social engineering to enact the currently fashionable conception of
fairness.
Fairness is not a fashion. Fairness is a fundamental virtue.
If spending
Do you know of a single corporation that simply gives money to its
employees and tells them to freely do what they want? I think not. Then
why do you insist that the government should be run this way? Sheer
nonsense.
Doesn't Google do that? Not that they give out buckets of money, but
don't
Did you laugh out loud as you typed that?
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
How much of the national economy should be at the direction of the
government (government spending plus government mandated spending) vs.
the private sector?
No more than necessary.
Greedy like the bankers who flooded the market with empty homes, forcing
the market into a death spiral.
I see you've bought into the Paulson/Bush plan, hook, line and sinker:
high prices good, low prices bad.
Once again you totally misperceive. The large first derivative is the
problem.
That answer is a cop op allowing for whatever level is desired from
anarchy up to totalitarian socialism.
Necessary is in the eye of the speaker, so speak and tell me what is
necessary.
Matthew
On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
How much of the national economy should be at
I have another take on the .pdf's, and take some issue with Tom. I have
scanned my letterhead to a pretty high resolution .tif file. I can then
type in photoshop my correspondance, then convert to .pdf - clunky, but it
works. Files go from 37mb down to a manageable 500kb for e-mail. I am
Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?
Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in the upper
right before it started sync'ing. It took maybe 15 minutes to download
my gmail, which goes back to 2007, and I can read them all now while
offline. When killing the internet, it
Sending money to someone who pays no taxes is not a cut. You can't
cut less than 0. That is a handout, pure and simple.
False. The poor pay a disproportionate percentage of their income to
taxes. You conveniently forget that income tax is just one of many taxes
paid.
I have to admire,
What does this result mean?
Using IPv4 address
Protocol error!
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While fairness may indeed be a fundamental virtue, it's largely a myth, like
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Fairness is a fundamental
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On Jan 30, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
That is exactly the presumption some make - that the government
should
allocate income to the population, using the tax code as a tool of
social engineering to enact the currently fashionable conception of
fairness.
Fairness is not a fashion.
Of course it wasn't the home sellers and home buyers. They're just
innocent bystanders.
For the most part they are. Most people know less about buying real
estate than they know about buying computers. Just look at how many
people buy Windows because somebody told them to. If they knew what
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By itself, not much. But if you paste the rest of the log it just
looks like a server error.
TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.5.4b click START to begin
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address Protocol error!
click START to re-test
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at
On Jan 30, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
Sending money to someone who pays no taxes is not a cut. You can't
cut less than 0. That is a handout, pure and simple.
False. The poor pay a disproportionate percentage of their income to
taxes. You conveniently forget that income tax is just
When I create PDFs from Adobe InDesign, one of the choices is to embed
the fonts. I think that Apple's Print to PDF embeds fonts by default.
Not to be a dittohead, but with so much said on this topic I feel
compelled to say the Betty knows what she is talking about. No voodoo
here! Thanks.
At 02:08 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote:
Disproportionate to what? Take sales tax - the poor tend to pay less
sales tax, as more of their expenditures are on non-tax items such as
food. With the earned income tax credit, their income tax can go
negative, offsetting their payroll tax in whole or in
While fairness may indeed be a fundamental virtue, it's largely a myth,
like the fairness of when pigs fly.
Do neocons go to church? Do they sleep through the service?
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is it not a bit difficult to put that much data in a place and in a way
for it ALL to be destroyed in one shot by one contract guy?
Yes that is quite a story, but I don't know. The reporter may be a bit
too innocent to be covering this story. A script on one server is not
going to whipe out
That was my point, it was starting to go up again
till the war hit...
Well, I don't think it's accurate to say that it was starting to go up
again till the war hit. It went up once, in 1938, then started declining
again. And the reason for the 1938 increase wasn't that the New Deal was
I was unfamiliar with states that tax food - it seems that some
governments know no restraint.
I stand corrected on that point.
Still, given the higher marginal tax rates on income, I very much
doubt that you pay more tax than the more wealthy.
Matthew
On Jan 30, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Rev.
You're mistaken.
The poor pay proportionately more sales tax.
It's called a regressive tax.
From dictionary.com:
regressive tax
A tax that takes a higher percentage of low incomes than high ones. Sales
taxes, especially on food, clothing, medicine, and other basic necessities are
widely
Proportionately, the poor indeed do pay more tax than the wealthy.
Still, given the higher marginal tax rates on income, I
very much doubt that you pay more tax than the more wealthy.
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Keep in mind too that in 38 FDR implemented part deux of his new deal.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.comwrote:
That was my point, it was starting to go up again
till the war hit...
Well, I don't think it's accurate to say that it was starting to go up
The question is not more tax, but proportionality of tax.
As far as I know, most economists, and statisticians have shown that
Sales tax is mostly regressive.
Those at the lower end of the income spectrum pay a higher percentage
of their income in sales tax than higher income folks.
How much HDD space does it take up for 2 years of email ?
-Original Message-
From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: gmail offline
Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?
Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in
The federal government runs on a cash basis in the sense that you mean
it.
Once again:
Funds disbursed is spending
Funds collected is revenue
Taxes not collected are not spending. For tax cuts to be spending the
aggregated government budget would look like this:
Revenue = Gross
i just went in and asked my wife about fannie. she was the xerox analyst for
fannie. she said they were very smart. very smart is the best the fed govt
gets, and fed govt does computer very well. overall, they are much smarter
than most any large company, as they are not cost limited by
I suspected that would be the case. I am using gmail as I changed providers
after over 10 years with att dialup and don't want to go through that again
...I considered yahoo but settled on gmail as it seemed likely to have
longevity ...I am using pop and outlook ...the heck with their scheme
Now this is example of why I hang with the list, overlooking the bloviating
discussion that seems to have overwhelmed the original exchange of information.
I have rushed to my InDesign disc, to learn these features, many thanks,
Betty. Image quality was really fine with my voodoo improvisation
Where I live I do not have a problem with battery life.
Also if you read ATT's ad real close they will
say that the more bars in more places really
means world wide not US specific. A little misleading.
Stewart
At 05:17 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote:
Now this is example of why I hang with the
Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com] escribió:
Anyone else got this new offline gmail installed?
Install was painless, but I had to initialize the tool in the upper right
before it started sync'ing. It took maybe 15 minutes to download my gmail,
which goes back to 2007, and I can read them all now
I said exactly the opposite. You can't call Bush, Cheney, Rummy etc
neocons because they are paleocons; i.e. always been conservative, hence
nothing neo- about them.
Snyder, Mark (IT-EI) wrote:
Huh? Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al, used to be liberal? In what sense
of the word?
Thank you,
A friend has an older Dell laptop with Windows XP that won't connect
wirelessly to internet. Maybe other problems, don't know. He knows
nothing at all about computers, so he asked me for advice since I know
next to nothing. He believes his problem is caused by viruses since he
sees a
If you object to the amount of taxes the working poor do pay, then lower
those taxes. I.e. lower the payroll tax and lower the sales taxes and
state income taxes. Don't take money from those who pay federal income
taxes to make up for those taxes. Otherwise some states who are
profligate in
Reference please?
Snyder, Mark (IT-EI) wrote:
Bush and Cheney were hailed as neocons by self-described neocons when
they were elected. If the neocons now claim they are no longer pure
enough to qualify, I will not drink their cool aid. They were and are
neocons, among other things.
Thank
The virus notice is probably coming from malware, not a virus. They
sell unwitting users their antivirus product, which only installs much
more malware.
I'd tell him to restore his OS from the disks he got with it. If he's
lost them, I think there may be replacements available from Dell.
On
I didn't mean to start some sort of email war. Sorry, but POP and IMAP
are yesterday's news. My grandfather's email. An email client that
can't work in any browser via AJAX and can't store my stuff in the
cloud just isn't worth consideration in 2009. Except perhaps in a
historical perspective; I
Taxes not collected are not spending.
Literally true, if the statement is just left hanging there with no
associated history. But history exists and trying to deny history is just
another cheap debating trick. The decision to not collect the taxes is a
spending decision. It is a decision to
he could also download a couple of spyware free programs and let them fix
his thing ...I suggest adaware free (lavasoft) and spybot ...they work fine.
Also, he might try an antivirus ...like Avast free which is also great!!
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From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com]
Sent:
i forgot to mention that you should then have yourself cleansed, which will
require a trip to india.
At 07:10 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote:
A friend has an older Dell laptop with Windows XP that won't connect
wirelessly to internet. Maybe other problems, don't know. He knows nothing
at all about
he should burn the computer. but prior to the fire, he should contact and warn
all in the neighborhood that he is releasing live viruses into the area.
the alternate, which is probably better, is to put the thing into a plastic bag
with a large rock. take it to a religious place and have them
If you object to the amount of taxes the working
poor do pay, then lower those taxes
Did you reply to the wrong message? I didn't object to anything, just noted
that there are no payments going to people who pay no taxes, contrary to
some conservatives' claims.
oh yeah, he should dld belarc advisor free and run it to find out what his
serial number is for windows so when he gets the restore cd he can use it
...the reinstall will ask for it ...belarc will display all the serial
numbers for his stuff ...he should print that and keep it !!
-Original
If he bought it new from dell they may offer a recovery xp cd for cheap
...he should call dell and give them the express service code (it's usually
under a lift up door on the front of the tower right below the on button)
...they can be helpful... get ready for a wait ...polish up on hindi and
Tom,
Thanks for the good laugh. I was wondering how you could turn this
(way-way-off) topic into Windows bashing, but you did.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Of course it wasn't the home sellers and home buyers. They're just
innocent bystanders.
For the most part they are. Most people know less
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Of course it wasn't the home sellers and home buyers. They're just
innocent bystanders.
For the most part they are. Most people know less about buying real
estate than they know about buying computers. Just look at how many
people buy Windows because somebody told
This should not be necessary if he uses the Dell CDs. They do not
require entering any codes.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM, rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com wrote:
oh yeah, he should dld belarc advisor free and run it to find out what his
serial number is for windows so when he gets the
If he bought it new from dell they may offer a recovery xp cd for cheap
That is step one, but is he ready for step two, three, etc?
Are his files backed up? Who will do that?
Does he have all the drivers he will need?
Does he have disks for application software? What is he using? Does he
have
Now this is example of why I hang with the list, overlooking the
bloviating discussion that seems to have overwhelmed the original
exchange of information.
I have rushed to my InDesign disc, to learn these features, many
thanks, Betty. Image quality was really fine with my voodoo
improvisation
If you object to the amount of taxes the working poor do pay, then lower
those taxes. I.e. lower the payroll tax and lower the sales taxes and
state income taxes.
Still living in lala land. Lower all taxes to zero and somehow all the
services of a civilized society magically happen. Is neocon
I don't think anyone disputes that it took WWII to finally end the
Depression for good
Hence the neocon penchant for war? A good war will straighten out the
economy. Of one doesn't suffice we can attack somebody else. Who shall it
be?
Interesting. Time and time again liberals claim that anyone who
disagrees with them is ignorant. You might consider that those of us
who are not your brand of liberal have a different value system and /
or set of starting assumptions and engage those.
Another broad, unsubstantiated claim.
Riiight. Another non-answer.
You will only accept answers that regurgitate the neocon mantra. You
won't get such from me because such answers are wrong. I'm not pushing
ideology regardless of the facts. I'm pointing out where your notions do
not match reality and showing you how to apply
I think you are misusing the term neocon. Most of what you disagree with
the right on are conservative principles, such as minimal government.
But I believe in minimal government! I am a capitalist. I own a business.
Neocons are a special breed of folks, who used to be liberal, but
switched to
maybe your boss is gonna read your quips on this board while you hang out at
the water cooler !!
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/zd/20090130/tc_zd/236556
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From: Tony B [mailto:ton...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:49 PM
To: rleesimon
Subject: Re: gmail offline
The use of labels such as this is irrational and intellectually lazy.
Tax Cuts are only spending to folks who presume that all funds which
could be potentially collected via taxation belong to the government
by right, and therefore any funds the government allows the taxpayer
to keep is
No one has made that claim.
If however, taxes are more closely related to the services provided by
government perhaps there would be much less tendency to fund every
Tom, Dick, and Harry's pet cause.
On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
Lower all taxes to zero and somehow all
No, I only accept answers that actually address the question as
answered.
You seem to live in a world of no principle beyond perceived necessity.
On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
Riiight. Another non-answer.
You will only accept answers that regurgitate the neocon mantra.
Tom that is not being fair to Neocons. Zimbabwe is presently an insane asylum.
Whatever problems the Bush administration had (and there were enough
to enumerate) Mugabe is a few fries short of a happy meal, a few
cards short of a full deck, not the sharpest knife in the drawer
whatever
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:25:44 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote:
Do you know of a single corporation that simply gives money to its
employees and tells them to freely do what they want? I think not. Then
why do you insist that the government should be run this way? Sheer
nonsense.
Doesn't Google do
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