Re: [CGUYS] indescent, d'oh!

2009-06-23 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, rleesimon wrote: > Was george carlin on wamu? .or have I missed something? > It was open mike night. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription m

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > When I started college they issued us an ID number which was sort of > > alphabetical derived. About halfway through they changed the ID number > to > > our SSN > > Out of curiosity, how long ago was this? A lot of organizations that at

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Dunford
> I really do not worry about furriners seeing as though I am married > to one of them. I used to be married to one of them Canadians too. She told me that they didn't count as furriners because they speak English, sort of, and their only agenda was finding enough Molson's, eh? ***

Re: [CGUYS] Notebook Normal Operating Temperature

2009-06-23 Thread Tony B
Generally, you always determine this by just running the computer for a while. You get to know what it will do under different conditions. You can find charts of maximum CPU temps online, but it's unlikely you'll get anywhere near those before the thing just shuts down. Our old Dell laptop was slo

Re: [CGUYS] Killing flat rate?

2009-06-23 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 21, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/The-Metered-Billing-Fight-Is- About-To-Get-Ugly-103043 Interesting story on how the industry wants to kill flat rate billing for the Internet. "the push began in earnest this week, with a flood of as

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I really do not worry about furriners seeing as though I am married to one of them. Stewart At 03:08 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote: That's right. Otherwise the country is going to be over run with furriners. M$ doesn't want your SSN, they want you to show your M$ Passport. That is much better. Ju

[CGUYS] Notebook Normal Operating Temperature

2009-06-23 Thread Edward Yarborough
Does anyone know or have an idea on how I can find the normal operating temp of a Dell D600 notebook? They have made it extremely hard to find. "Making friends is better than making enemies, in the long run?" * ** List inf

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 22, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: The SS# has taken on a very big significance in the life of a person who lives and works in the USA. That's right. Otherwise the country is going to be over run with furriners. M$ doesn't want your SSN, they want you to show your M$

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Dunford
> SS#s for Bank accounts have been around much longer. > > The Drivers License bit was in 2003 when I moved from TN to AL. The driver's license for opening bank accounts is required by the USA PATRIOT Act, which was cleverly named so as to make opposing it appear treasonous. (I've always wonder

[CGUYS] indescent, d'oh!

2009-06-23 Thread rleesimon
Was george carlin on wamu? .or have I missed something? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** **

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
SS#s for Bank accounts have been around much longer. The Drivers License bit was in 2003 when I moved from TN to AL. Stewart At 11:55 AM 6/23/2009, you wrote: You (all) are referring to things that derived from "Real ID" efforts from the GWB administration for drivers' licenses - supposedly a

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Brian Jones
Most of my new electronics come with a manual on CD... I just copy it to MY DOCUMENTS\MANUALS\ folder. When I move to a new computer, all my manuals come with me. Keeping up with the CD is too much trouble. - Brian * ** L

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
You (all) are referring to things that derived from "Real ID" efforts from the GWB administration for drivers' licenses - supposedly an old dog-eared piece of paper, like a SSN card "proves" who you are because they "government ID" documents. In reality, all these new databases springing up with S

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I know when we moved from TN to AL we had to show that. Apparently the DL Dbases have been hacked enough that they do not simply accept a DL from another state. They want documented proof that you are who you say you are. Our one daughter had to bring her Graduation Diploma from HS in order

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Judy Cosler
you need original SS card to get driver's license in NC. I just moved here & hope I can find it! On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > It has become a defacto federal ID card. > > Well, a little nitpicky, but not so much "ID card" as "ID number". I've > -never- been asked to

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread mike
In a digital society, where the SS card is now mandatory at birth...id card and id number still have the same effect as a national id. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > It has become a defacto federal ID card. > > Well, a little nitpicky, but not so much "ID card" as "ID

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Recently for Military service and other things we have been asked for the actual SS card, not a copy or a duplicate. If you were to change jobs they might ask for the original SS card. I know we get hung up on the number but the SS administration will tell you it is an official US document. N

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Dunford
> It has become a defacto federal ID card. Well, a little nitpicky, but not so much "ID card" as "ID number". I've -never- been asked to provide the actual card as an ID. (I lost mine decades ago and have never bothered to replace it--have never needed it.)

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Most newer electronics do not come with manuals. It is either on a CD or on line. I prefer downloading them to my computer that way I know where they are. Stewart At 09:20 AM 6/23/2009, you wrote: The new Palm Pre comes with NO manual. If you search, you can find the PDF on the website.

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
The new Palm Pre comes with NO manual. If you search, you can find the PDF on the website. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Sue Cubic
At 11:16 PM 6/22/2009 -0400, you wrote: The office called today and asked a technical question about one of their video cameras. Of course, my first response was to shout at the boss RTFM! But, she _does_ pay me for this type of thing, so I googled the manual. I found it on Retrevo, apparently a

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Same here. However I knew in the military it was our ID#. It was required when you wrote a check at the PX or the comisary. When you got food the sign in sheet asked for your last 4. When you fill out a credit app. your SS# has to be on it. It has become a defacto federal ID card. In some

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Dunford
> And if you don't know http://www.retrevo.com/, it is wonderful for > locating old manuals. I've just retrieved two for stereo equipment > from the 1960's. > /gayley Yep, a mention of Retrevo is actually what started this discussion. Thanks. *

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Stephen Brownfield
I discovered it back around February when I was looking for a manual for a friends all in printer/fax/scanner ( I believe it was an HP). The only cost appears to be periodic emails from them. Steve P.S. - It is one of the things I always liked about the Apple web site all the manuals, but

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Stephen Brownfield
I agree it has become an ID number. I always have laughed, though, because when I was younger the Social Security card used to state on it that it was NOT to be used as an ID. Steve Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Do I like it? Heavens no. But it has become an ID# never the less.

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Business Her Way
And if you don't know http://www.retrevo.com/, it is wonderful for locating old manuals. I've just retrieved two for stereo equipment from the 1960's. /gayley On Jun 23, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: The wife keeps the manuals in the pockets of a divider in a notebook she keeps o

Re: [CGUYS] Embedding Metadata in PDF (Was: Databases: Open Office Base?)

2009-06-23 Thread Judy Cosler
thanks. that was VERY helpful! On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:40 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jun 22, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Judy Cosler wrote: > >> not necessarily. >> > > Well, of course, there are countless other ways to screw up. > > > > *

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Do I like it? Heavens no. But it has become an ID# never the less. Even the US government has not stopped it's use for this. Stewart At 05:50 AM 6/23/2009, you wrote: Reverend, I understand the Social Security Number's role in employment and taxes (the real reason banks started requiring it

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Dunford
> The wife keeps the manuals in the pockets of a divider in a notebook > she keeps on the cookbook shelf in the kitchen. I've gotten in the > habit of writing the purchase date on the front cover of said manual. > Very simple, very easy. Also works great. We used to keep them in hanging folders in

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 6:14 AM -0400 6/23/09, Chris Dunford wrote: > >Hello, >Congratulations on becoming a Retrevo member. Our free service offers >more than 100,000 manuals. >Now that you've created your own personal account on Retrevo, why not >let us store the manuals for all your gadgets. Click here to b

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-23 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Reverend, I understand the Social Security Number's role in employment and taxes (the real reason banks started requiring it years ago). However, I cannot understand why people kowtow to consumer products companies to initiate service contract and to buy things such as a cell phone. That is go

Re: [CGUYS] Good idea - manuals online

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Dunford
> >Hello, > >Congratulations on becoming a Retrevo member. Our free service offers > >more than 100,000 manuals. > >Now that you've created your own personal account on Retrevo, why not > >let us store the manuals for all your gadgets. Click here to build > >your personal bookshelf of manuals. You