Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley

2009-07-13 Thread mike
Well hopefully the ONE guy getting a job for this contract will be full time so the 10 mil is worth it. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:28 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:09 PM, mike wrote: > >> Report recently read that the O team is going to spend upwards of 10 mil >> in >> the next six

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread mike
I switched from a local client to a web one because I've only got DSL available here, it was so slow with POP it was unbearable. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Tony B wrote: > You really are dating yourself. The modern AJAX web mail clients are > every bit as fast as a local client (since the

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Miles
Thank you, so I'm not that out of date. I like my Mac mail client much for what you said. The web site is loading all the garbage. My email client isn't. Plus you have to click all around on a web based email to get it to do anything. If you have 10 or 15 emails that's no big thing. But wh

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
I'm back and I see the thread has progressed without me. Thanks everyone for the info. Initially I was asking about moving a Tbird POP acct from a local ISP to a IMAP Gmail account and particularly if anyone knew if Gmail would accept archived mail folders from the old account and show them a

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
You mean if any of the mail in the Gmail webmail inbox is part of a thread, you have to look at it in threaded style by thread and date/time and the rest of the email shows up by date/time? Don't think I would like that. I like having the option and usually pick simple date/time display. d

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
POP is faster because it doesn't have to do folder sync ... it just sends whatever it's got in the inbox folder when it's polled. A lot less to do so it happens faster. db Jeff Miles wrote: I also find web mail so slow. I deal with hundreds of emails per day. Yes, mostly spam, but they a

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2009-07-13 Thread Phil Marchetti
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Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
Yeh, I've notice the AJAX web mail clients are fast ... especially if they are running on Chrome. i suppose that is where the future is but I generally don't like webmail interfaces (too much clicking around...) as well as desktop clients, you have to look at advertising with most of the webma

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
You really are dating yourself. The modern AJAX web mail clients are every bit as fast as a local client (since the code runs locally). This has been true for a couple years now. And they have added advantages e.g. Being able to access your email from multiple computers (home & work), and automatic

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
What in the world are you talking about? Everything in my Inbox is listed by time received. But everything in my Cguys 'folder' is listed by thread *and* time received. I'm not sure what you want - a folder full of cguys postings where the posts just flow randomly as people respond, rather than th

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Miles
I also find web mail so slow. I deal with hundreds of emails per day. Yes, mostly spam, but they are so easy to deal with in a fast email client as compared to using web mail. And this may be a stupid question. I used to be an AT&T web service tech. That was almost 10 years ago. I've forgot

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Miles
You own cell phone stock don't you? On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:50 PM, t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:51 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say that about one to two hours a day on the phone is kinda normal. Now, to me, that is very bad, and indicates some sort of an emotional prob

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Wright
> No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The > rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your > browser for email. No muss, no fuss. I don't like how Gmail organizes everything by thread, with no option to instead organize messages by time received. *

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Tony B wrote: I don't think this is what he was asking. I thought he wanted to know how to get all his *old* emails out of tbird on his machine and into gmail. Set up Thunderbird to access your Gmail account and then drag the folders from one account to the other.

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:51 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say that about one to two hours a day on the phone is kinda normal. Now, to me, that is very bad, and indicates some sort of an emotional problem. I judge people by what they accomplish, not whether the look good while accomplishing

Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search

2009-07-13 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 13, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Tony B wrote: I think what may be confusing you are the various codecs and choices involved these days. As I said, if the operator makes an error in rendering, then you may notice a tremendous difference. But that's wetware; the hardware has nothing to do with it. T

Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley

2009-07-13 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:09 PM, mike wrote: Report recently read that the O team is going to spend upwards of 10 mil in the next six months to redesign a website. Well someone sure knows what they are doing...nothing like recovery dot swindle. That price tag would be on the low end for a majo

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
I don't think this is what he was asking. I thought he wanted to know how to get all his *old* emails out of tbird on his machine and into gmail. Once you're using gmail, there's no need for this Mail Fetcher, as you should just *forward* all your other accounts to gmail. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Miles
There you go. I think I've heard the same story about 20 times. And telling her you've heard this before doesn't stop her. I have been reduced to using the away or invisible option on iChat. The persons who included these options truly understand how annoying cell phones can be. Jeff M

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Allen Firstenberg
Gmail can import from a POP3 mailbox: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=21288 Tony - sure, it might not be of interest except archival. But given the indexing tools you get with gmail... tha

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Miles
Wrong. You mention 6-7 interactions being not noteworthy. You failed to include 6-7 cell phone interactions. At the work place, if your job doesn't require a phone, it's very noteworthy. If it isn't required and interrupts job performance the person should be warned. If the activity isn't

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Tony B wrote: > One of my bosses is like this. She'll get on the phone with a client > and spend an hour without thinking anything of it. Talking with a client is one thing, but just jabbering with friends and acquaintances is quite another. The later is what I

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
I suppose you could mail yourself a big text file. Personally, I just kept the old client around a while until I was sure I didn't need it (but obviously I disabled the automatic mail checking). After a few months the older emails are of no interest except archival. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:39 P

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
Good point. Creature of habit I guess... To do that ... how would one transfer email stored by a email client software to a new google web email account? Need to have the existing 1 GB email store from a non google computer based email client account uploaded somehow ... which goes back to

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
One of my bosses is like this. She'll get on the phone with a client and spend an hour without thinking anything of it. e.g. When I answered phones, I'd get their number/email and send a fax/email with directions. She laboriously walks them through directions on the phone, having them write it down

Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
You may disagree, but you will still be wrong. I can test it for you if you like, because we still have several old Pentium 4 systems, as well as newr Core2. If you render the same settings on both machines the output will be bit for bit identical. In fact, for years I used an old Pentium 2 to rend

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:04 PM, db wrote: > I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various "labels" > first

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:43 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > This is fairly normal behavior for humans. Normal people are very social. > They like to interact with other people and make plans for future > opportunities for further social interaction. "6 to 7" instances of social > interaction in an 8 hour

Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search

2009-07-13 Thread mike
Old chinese proverb says, A closed mind is like...oh screw it who cares. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:22 PM, mike wrote: > >> That just proves he should stop buying cheap pc's. >> > > Is there any other kind? > > > > **

Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Wright
> BTW Grassley is one of the few conservatives who is not an utter > nincompoop. When he speaks or twits it is worth paying attention -- > even if it taxes your brain. Yes, especially when he comes hat-in-hand for another generous handout for the poor, suffering Archer Daniels Midland. How's that

Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley

2009-07-13 Thread mike
Every team has to have one who isn't a ninny. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:58 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > > BTW Grassley is one of the few conservatives who is not an utter > nincompoop. When he speaks or twits it is worth paying attention -- even if > it taxes your brain. > **

Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search

2009-07-13 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:22 PM, mike wrote: That just proves he should stop buying cheap pc's. Is there any other kind? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a memb

Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley

2009-07-13 Thread mike
We keep hearing how tech savvy the big O admin is, he carries a blackberry and knows how to use it etc etc. Report recently read that the O team is going to spend upwards of 10 mil in the next six months to redesign a website. Well someone sure knows what they are doing...nothing like recovery do

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Wright
> This is fairly normal behavior for humans. Normal people are very > social. They like to interact with other people and make plans for > future opportunities for further social interaction. "6 to 7" > instances of social interaction in an 8 hour work day is hardly > noteworthy. I read that as sh

Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley

2009-07-13 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 13, 2009, at 5:46 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: "Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy u?Lets talk." Twitter's max is 140 chrs. The above is 139. What's yr problem? Back in the days of your youth W

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Wright
> > A wife of a friend of mine calls and ichats all the time. It's > > annoying as hell. > > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/misanthropy Or, she's just annoying as hell. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread t.piwowar
This is fairly normal behavior for humans. Normal people are very social. They like to interact with other people and make plans for future opportunities for further social interaction. "6 to 7" instances of social interaction in an 8 hour work day is hardly noteworthy. On Jul 12, 2009, a

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: A wife of a friend of mine calls and ichats all the time. It's annoying as hell. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/misanthropy * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Wright
> Here are two very recent posts by the honorable(?) Chuck Grassley to > his Twitter account: > > "Watch Supreme Court nominee on TV b4 judiciary. I b there most of this wk." > > "Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income > tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes

[CGUYS] The esteemed Chuck Grassley

2009-07-13 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Here are two very recent posts by the honorable(?) Chuck Grassley to his Twitter account: "Watch Supreme Court nominee on TV b4 judiciary. I b there most of this wk." "Chr Rangel wealthy 1pc make 27pc of total income pay 40pc of income tax U hv 5pc health care surTax How hi taxes go to satisfy

[CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various "labels" first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your "Labeled" Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. A

Re: [CGUYS] silvery

2009-07-13 Thread db
Are there inexpensive scanners available? Seems like a good thing for one to have... countermeasures / escalation is inherent with every technology. db Judy Cosler wrote: what items have RFID? how does one tell? (I saw the version of US passport online that has RFID) On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at

Re: [CGUYS] silvery

2009-07-13 Thread Judy Cosler
what items have RFID? how does one tell? (I saw the version of US passport online that has RFID) On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:12 PM, rleesimon wrote: > Good point, old film, clearly states "proposed" shield system ...I think it > was just to demo it. Still, I think there is food for thought here (

Re: [CGUYS] silvery

2009-07-13 Thread rleesimon
Good point, old film, clearly states "proposed" shield system ...I think it was just to demo it. Still, I think there is food for thought here (not in the trash can). -Original Message- From: Eric S. Sande [mailto:esa...@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: silvery

Re: [CGUYS] Here I am again friends...

2009-07-13 Thread Marcio
Would you believe me...Kodak has a program that you can download and run to uninstall the EasyShare: http://wwwca.kodak.com/global/en/service/downloads/private/dln7Clear2_0_Utility.jhtml Marcio -Original Message- >From: "Richard P." >Sent: Jul 12, 2009 8:57 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@L

Re: [CGUYS] Video Codec Search

2009-07-13 Thread Bill Wajert
Try www.free-codecs.com Subject: Re: Video codec search From: trac...@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:24:20 EDT Thanks for the advice but I already discounted the "I give up and quit "solution to this for the

Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search

2009-07-13 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Tony B wrote: > Anecdotal, and completely wrong. All video is digital these days, so > unless you do something wrong, you'll get out what you put in. i.e., > The quality of the parts in the computer has absolutely nothing to do > with the quality of your finished v

Re: [CGUYS] Advertising for cell phones

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
Alas, this was true in the Old Days, but as has been pointed out on this list before, what used to be classic phone service has slowly been changing over the years. Sometimes it's obvious when someone installs VOIP, sometimes it's not so obvious when the phone company just changes things behind the

Re: [CGUYS] Video codec search

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
Anecdotal, and completely wrong. All video is digital these days, so unless you do something wrong, you'll get out what you put in. i.e., The quality of the parts in the computer has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of your finished video. > to out of a PC.  One fellow, who actually work