Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-07-31 Thread Jeff Wright
> I would certainly trust Google more than Outlook. I frequently get > calls about corrupt email database files and when those go it is > highly probable that you can kiss your saved emails goodbye. Google > may have a temporary slowdown or outage, but I don't know of anyone > who has lost all thei

[CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...

2009-07-31 Thread Business Her Way
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Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-07-31 Thread b_s-wilk
Yes, I trust Google to store my stuff. And Amazon. I may store other stuff with MS when they start offering the service. In a separate thread, please tell us about your own redundant backup strategy and why it's better than cloud storage. I wouldn't trust any free online company to store my imp

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...MORE

2009-07-31 Thread Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
And, let us not be so smug- the reports over the past two days of significant security failures in Macs, iPhones, and iPods means that as Apple market share augments, its desirability as a target and its inherent flaws will force the (heretofore smug) users of these devices to update and add securi

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ... NOT

2009-07-31 Thread Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
I am not being an apologist for MSFT. They have done many things wrong- including the concept of selling 5 different versions of Vista and 7, and screwing up Windows Mobile. However, to compare an Apple with a Microsoft is not totally correct. That would be equivalent to comparing Sherwin Willia

Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-07-31 Thread Art Clemons
> I wouldn't trust any free online company to store my important data. I've > been burned many times by making that foolish assumption. I'll never do that > again. There are storage companies that do primarily storage at a reasonable > price and do it well, but it would never be my only backup.

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ... NOT

2009-07-31 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: > But computer sales are > not what you thought they were for Apple. I am a user of Apple computers for a long time. I have never used, on any daily basis, a Windows machine. However, I am not an advocate of Apple Corp. doin

Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-07-31 Thread rleesimon
Yes, for me (not a geek) it musta been server issues, and thus proof google runs more than 1 server (duh) and the ones who had trouble were on it ...I can't believe people who know little about computerdom (myself 1) know THAT little... -Original Message- From: phartz...@gmail.com [mailto:

[CGUYS] Cars for the sightless?

2009-07-31 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
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Re: [CGUYS] More computer humor

2009-07-31 Thread rleesimon
M$ has perfected the process whereby the hourglass is responsive to retinal orientation. -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:10 PM Subject: More computer humor More Murphy's Laws of Computing 1. To err is human.

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2009-07-31 Thread rleesimon
My laptop (ibm x31 winxpprosp3 pIVm1.4/2gb/120gb) sits most of the time on a dock which, instead of the battery has a sled in the ultrabay with the old 40mb HDD which started making noise today and doesn't show on the list.opened the bay and it's hot,hot. Is this the proverbial "end" of that? If s

[CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-07-31 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
For a while yesterday afternoon, Washington DC affiliate WRC, normally DTV channel 4-1(along with a couple of their sub-channels) had once again disappeared, showing up instead at channel 48-1, along with sub-channels 48-2 and 48-3. For some reason, this happens every once in a while. I wrote t

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2009-07-31 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:36 PM, rleesimon wrote: > My laptop (ibm x31 winxpprosp3 pIVm1.4/2gb/120gb) sits most of the time on a > dock which, instead of the battery has a sled in the ultrabay with the old > 40mb HDD which started making noise today and doesn't show on the > list.opened the bay an

Re: [CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-07-31 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:45 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > For a while yesterday afternoon, Washington DC affiliate WRC, > normally DTV channel 4-1(along with a couple of their sub-channels) > had once again disappeared, showing up instead at channel 48-1, along > with sub-channels 48-2 and 48

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2009-07-31 Thread db
If you need to attempt to retrieve data off of that drive, put it in the freezer for an hours or so and then take it out and see if it will work again temporarily. You can google "freezing hard drive to retrieve data" if you want to know more about this technique... db rleesimon wrote: My l

Re: [CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-07-31 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:08 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > 4 transmits at 48 it just lost the alias in your DTV tuner.  Rescan and it > should be fine.  Channels under 7 are transmitted elsewhere but they kept > the original designation not to really confuse people. I understand that they tran

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2009-07-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I was told at least over night, then boot the system up right away and get the stuff off. By the way PATA are still available and you can ;put it as large as your system can handle. Probably a 100+ drive. Stewart At 02:22 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: If you need to attempt to retrieve data off

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2009-07-31 Thread db
From Google Shopping: http://www.google.com/products?q=buy+pata+2.5+drive&hl=en&aq=f Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I was told at least over night, then boot the system up right away and get the stuff off. By the way PATA are sti

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...MORE

2009-07-31 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: And, let us not be so smug- the reports over the past two days of significant security failures in Macs, iPhones, and iPods means that as Apple market share augments, its desirability as a target and its inherent flaws will forc

Re: [CGUYS] Gmail issue

2009-07-31 Thread db
Betty, I was curious and could not find a Lonely Planet vault on Lonely Planet although I found references to it. Also I am curious as to why you feel that Lonely Planet vault is more reliable than the services of a company like Amazon S3 or Mozy/EMC who have a major professional stake in cl

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...MORE

2009-07-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Don't know why you listen to him we don't. Stewart At 02:51 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: And, let us not be so smug- the reports over the past two days of significant security failures in Macs, iPhones, and iPods means that as Apple

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2009-07-31 Thread Andy Gallant
The freezer technique worked for me. I used a ziplock bag, didn't need to wait overnight, and used an enclosure. Good luck. -Andy Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I was told at least over night, then boot the system up right away and get the stuff off. By the way PATA are still available and y

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2009-07-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Better pricing. Stewart At 02:46 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: From Google Shopping: http://www.google.com/products?q=buy+pata+2.5+drive&hl=en&aq=f

Re: [CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-07-31 Thread Richard P.
You might want to try calling and talking directly to one of their engineers. Letters just go to public affairs. Richard P. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:45 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: >  For a while yesterday afternoon, Washington DC affiliate WRC, > normally DTV channel 4-1(along with a couple

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2009-07-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I guess it has to do with the severity of the problem. Stewart At 03:01 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: The freezer technique worked for me. I used a ziplock bag, didn't need to wait overnight, and used an enclosure. Good luck. -Andy Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I was told at least over night, t

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2009-07-31 Thread db
I think it was a 2.5 PATA drive... notebook size ... that was in the docking bay... db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Better pricing. Stewart At 02:46 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: F

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2009-07-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
PATA is the newer name for ATA100 IDE. Parallel versus Serial Stewart At 03:19 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: I think it was a 2.5 PATA drive... notebook size ... that was in the docking bay... db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Better pricing.

Re: [CGUYS] Well-thought analysis of MSFT ...MORE

2009-07-31 Thread mike
Too true. Marketshare in itself does not imply security or lack of. But logic does seem to dictate that those who go after the insecure OS's go after the one with larger marketshare since they don't seem to go after the one with smaller marketshare which has been proven to be no more secure. As

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2009-07-31 Thread rleesimon
Cooled it off under fan and a/c ...got the data off ...I spoze it's curtains for that drive ...good I replaced it before it croaked (got the 120gb one in the notebook a while back)... thanks! -Original Message- From: phartz...@gmail.com [mailto:phartz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 31,

Re: [CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-07-31 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Richard P. wrote: > You might want to try calling and talking directly to one of their > engineers. Letters just go to public affairs. You don't thnik that you have to go through public affairs to get to an engineer? I've been associated with the broadcasting in

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-31 Thread TPiwowar
On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: iPhone SMS attack to be unleashed at Black Hat "Apple on Friday released iPhone Software Update 3.0.1, which fixes the SMS vulnerability demonstrated at the Black Hat security conference on Thursday." Next-day service on security fixes. Hard

Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 3GS encryption "useless"

2009-07-31 Thread mike
Next day, six weeks...whatever... On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:00 PM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: > >> iPhone SMS attack to be unleashed at Black Hat >> > > "Apple on Friday released iPhone Software Update 3.0.1, which fixes the SMS > vulnerability demonstrat

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2009-07-31 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
I've actually frozen entire laptops just to pull the data off. Doesn't take more than a couple of hours to chill it up enough. - Original Message - From: "db" To: Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] noise&heat From Google Shopping: http://www.google.com/produ

Re: [CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-07-31 Thread Richard P.
Last time I called WUSA about the poor reception problems, I asked the receptionist for engineering and they put me through. The receptionist usually doesn't have time to filter outside calls. Richard P. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:22 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Re: [CGUYS] More DTV weirdness...

2009-07-31 Thread Art Clemons
> You don't thnik that you have to go through public affairs to get to > an engineer? I've been associated with the broadcasting industry long > enough to know better than that. Unless one already has a direct line > to engineering, you are going to have to go through a filter. Aren't you assum

Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...

2009-07-31 Thread betty
I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. You are experience first hand the difference between getting Windows vs Macintosh. The Macs are far more resistant t

[CGUYS] Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits.

2009-07-31 Thread Alvin Auerbach
Google: 2nd hit was what I wanted. I checked the first 100 hits from Bing, and found nothing. I did a find on each Bing page for "1%" None of the first 100 Bing hits had that term. I then stopped checking. Search term: 1% own Google's second hit: World's richest 1% own 40% of all wealth,

Re: [CGUYS] Google: 2nd hit. Bing: Not in 100 hits.

2009-07-31 Thread mike
1% pay... Google's link was on the first page...Bing was 77. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: > Google: 2nd hit was what I wanted. > > I checked the first 100 hits from Bing, and found nothing. I did a find on > each Bing page for "1%" None of the first 100 Bing hits had