Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-01 Thread Rich Schinnell
Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives with U3 installed and there was a file on the drive that says REMOVE U3 (or uninstall). I did it on most of them and it worked fine after answering that I was sure that I wanted to remove the applications that they had installed on the

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread db
IMAP keeps a copy of all your mail and folders on the server so you can access all of it from multiple machines and webmail. POP doesn't. In most cases POP moves the mail to your computer each time you get your mail. IMAP costs more therefore. But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Rich Schinnell
I have installed Eudora 7 (paid) on Windows 7 without any problems. Installing on my D drive in the D:\eudora directory and the attachments in the D:\eudora\attach sub directory. It is very configurable and just works. The main reason I installed it on my D drive is that has a lot more space

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:52 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The truth appears in driblets... multitouch, which the Droid doesn't do I am sure that the Droid will cover a number of the bases that the iPhone does not handle. This should not surprise anyone. Had the Droid developers and

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-01 Thread Jordan
Thanks very much for all the input. After some reading it seems to me that easiest way to remove it was to crank up a Windows machine, that I had not started in a couple years, and use the utilities on the stick to uninstall. I didn't want to put a utility on my Mac to do it and a method using

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread mike
HTC has a new phone with a 4.3 touch screen. So there are larger devices coming. HTC also apparently has new ads just to get their name out there as the ad barely shows a phone...although its a Sprint hero they do show. It's more an ad about HTC having a phone that can match your different needs.

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:16 AM, db db...@att.net wrote: IMAP keeps a copy of all your mail and folders on the server so you can access all of it from multiple machines and webmail. POP doesn't. In most cases POP moves the mail to your computer each time you get your mail. IMAP costs more

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 11:25 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: What is the relationship between MAPI and IMAP? MAPI is apparently a M$ protocol. The wikipedia references don't compare or cross reference them. Hasn't M$ has pretty much admitted that their protocol is crap by promising major

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:16 AM, db wrote: But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper than Earthlink or ATT give you POP. Note that hosts like GoDaddy are not well managed so find themselves on blacklists for various configuration-related infractions. I have better things to do than to spend

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: PS: As suspected, that 5MP camera in the Droid is fairly noisy from reviews I have read, pretty much negating any advantage 5MP should be expected to have over 3MP. Further reinforcing the impression that it is the phone for rubes and

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I am sure that the Droid will cover a number of the bases that the iPhone does not handle... Here's one... Is the Motorola Droid ugly? ... I know you'll tell me phones aren't supposed to be cute. They're supposed to be fabulously

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Rich Schinnell wrote: Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives with U3 installed and there was a file on the drive that says REMOVE U3 (or uninstall). I'm glad to see that somebody is doing it right. Can you cite any brands that do this?

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Marcio wrote: I have asked and I repeat... what is a better alternative today? Or at least comparable?... And mind you I do use web mail too... Can't say because our EFBs have not articulated any serious reasons for sticking with Eudora. I resisted switching

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
The cheeky ad seems to have inspired the press to draw up doesn't have lists... Droid lacks Apple's secret weapon: iTunes http://news.cnet.com/8301-13526_3-10378321-27.html But here's the thing: one reason for the runaway success of the iPhone--and one of the reasons why Apple still

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread mike
I've read a couple that said the cam was quite a bit better then iphones, and video much better. Perhaps some shots will surface. On Nov 1, 2009 11:44 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: PS: As suspected, that 5MP camera in the Droid is fairly

Re: [CGUYS] .pdb files

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: I heard (I believe on this list) that Palm was going to discontinue their OS. I have some pdb files I would like not to loose. Is there a way to transfer them to another format? There seem to be a bunch of options...

Re: [CGUYS] online storage

2009-11-01 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:13 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Oct 31, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I do have email on my phone (no more smartphone) but when I do a local download at home, poof there goes those email messages, plus the attachments and such are not available.

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-01 Thread Jordan
The SanDisks and the Cruzer ones I was working with had uninstalls on them. It was having to dig out my Windows computer to uninstall that I didn't like. Yes, I know I'm spoiled. tjpa wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Rich Schinnell wrote: Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread David K Watson
Since Mike is so desperate to find out what the Droid can't do that the iPhone can, here's two: Because the Droid is built for Verizon's mostly CDMA network, you don't have simultaneous data and voice. So you can't for example do a web search for restaurants while making dinner plans with your

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Sue Cubic
At 01:46 PM 11/1/2009 -0500, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Marcio wrote: I have asked and I repeat... what is a better alternative today? Or at least comparable?... And mind you I do use web mail too... Can't say because our EFBs have not articulated any serious reasons for sticking

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Sue you pretty well sum it up. I don't use the colored labels, but It is just something that works and works well. Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Well Eudora is one of those programs that just seems to work without a lot of bugs, reboots or p[roblems, kind

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread db
Who do you think does a better job of hosting ... yet at a decent price? db tjpa wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:16 AM, db wrote: But hosts like GoDaddy give you IMAP cheaper than Earthlink or ATT give you POP. Note that hosts like GoDaddy are not well managed so find themselves on blacklists

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:47 PM, db wrote: Who do you think does a better job of hosting ... yet at a decent price? Horrors no! There are plenty of low-cost suppliers that provide good service. I'm also pissed at all the GoDaddy spam directed my way. They are now black listed.

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in pink backgrounds with yellow writing (stationeries) and animated smilies! Pogue's got your

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Incorrect. I am just comparing Eudora to the email client I use daily, the one I know best. Don't forget that Eudora runs on Macs too. You could convince me to switch,

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: I do have Thunderbird installed on a machine, mainly so that I can guide others with its use. It appears to be a fine program too, although it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of real Eudora. I haven't really searched, but does T'Bird

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Let us know when that time is. It has not come yet. Stewart At 05:01 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: The biggest reason for my sticking with it is that it does what I want an email program to do. Why should I switch? I'm certainly not interested in

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Cost is not the only factor in selecting a Web provider. Consistency, reliability and trustworthy ness also play into the formula. Stewart At 05:09 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Horrors no! There are plenty of low-cost suppliers that provide good service. I'm also pissed at all the GoDaddy spam

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
My job is not convince you. My job is just to tell you enough that you will do it on your own. If I am not that good of persuader than my job is done. Enjoy. Stewart At 05:07 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep trying to convince

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread mike
Good stuff David, I too am on CDMA and have that limitation which sucks. The 256 is an android problem and is on every android phone out there, has nothing to do with this being on verizon or being the moto droid phone. I've read some about this and have not seen anything regarding anti piracy,

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread mike
I used Eudora for some time on my mac, am I remembering correctly that it was mac only at one point? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:07 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep trying to convince us that Apple is the way to go. Incorrect.

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have been using Eudora on a PC since my first real Internet connection, and that was before Windows 95. Eudora 1.1? I remember having to download Netscape. Configure the DNS servers etc. plus my dial up connection. Stewart At 05:42 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: I used Eudora for some time

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:35 PM, mike wrote: I've read some about this and have not seen anything regarding anti piracy, more concerns about removing the card when stuff is running from it. Theoretically, if someone would build an android phone with more internal memory like an iphone, all of it

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:03 PM, David K Watson wrote: Since Mike is so desperate to find out what the Droid can't do that the iPhone can, here's two: It's like The Baiting Game... http://video.nytimes.com/video/playlist/technology/david-pogue/1194811622273/index.html

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
At 05:42 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: I used Eudora for some time on my mac, am I remembering correctly that it was mac only at one point? Probably. PowerPoint was first Mac only until M$ bought the company. M$ first developed Excel for the Mac (calling it MultiPlan). M$ first developed Word

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Au Contraire monime. A little bit of rewriting history? 1986 ATT IBM computer had MS Word. DOS version. Dad worked for ATT and they got all MS products at a deep discount have a whole shelf full of them. Multiplan was multi platform. Used it on a different computer. Stewart At 06:40 PM

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread db
I know... that is why I was asking for your recommendation. Who gives the best reasonable hosting service at the least price in your opinion? db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Cost is not the only factor in selecting a Web provider. Consistency, reliability and trustworthy ness also play

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Here are some recommendations I got. Hostmonster 1and1 I have not personally sued them but am looking right now for a new webstart. I also have used and am personally using Directnic for a website. $47.00 per year. Stewart At 07:40 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: I know... that is why I was

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: 1986 ATT IBM computer had MS Word. DOS version. Word for MS-DOS used the word Word in its title, but that program was nothing like what anyone would associate with M$ Word... in Word for MS-DOS, a file would be saved with the sequence

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread tjpa
On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: 1and1 I use 1and 1 and they are fine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread mike
Yes we know David Pogue as the AFB he is. The last word on that moto cliq even resorts to...being completely misleading if not lying. Only 2 gigs of storage she exclaims! This of course referring to the 2 gigs of storage included in the phone which is expandable to 32. I'm sure this was left

Re: [CGUYS] It's monotheist versus pagan (It's a Windows Mobile killer)

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You mean this is about as entertaining as listening to Limbaugh? Stewart At 08:44 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Yes we know David Pogue as the AFB he is. The last word on that moto cliq even resorts to...being completely misleading if not lying. Only 2 gigs of storage she exclaims! This of

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread mike
Not sure how the zune is to a WFB, but to regular people it is better hardware and geared more towards those who enjoy finding new music more often then not. As an app platform? Not the way to go. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:20 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Of course with WFBs thinking the

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
What you forgot to add was the GUI versions of Word, Excel etc. I used Multiplan on my C64. Mac came out before Windows I will give you that. But do not attempt to rewrite history. many programs were out before the Mac came about. With the new Graphical interface it did require programming

Re: [CGUYS] POP and MAPI...

2009-11-01 Thread Marcio
I have Earthlink webmail and I can access my e-mail from any computer anywhere. Even if I send some to the trash they will remain there until I decide to delete them. Is this IMAP? But in my Eudora at home I have a internet server (Terra) and Eudora gets the mail and tehy donĀ“t remain on the

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Marcio
Sue you can still download Eudora 7 from the site www.eudora.com. And if you have your serial number you can make it a paid copy. Marcio -Original Message- From: Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8,

Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7

2009-11-01 Thread Marcio
Is Eudora for Mac the same as for PC? Have you really used it? Marcio -Original Message- From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com Sent: Nov 1, 2009 9:07 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8, Beta 7 On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom you keep

Re: [CGUYS] online storage

2009-11-01 Thread b_s-wilk
But have you seen modern cell coverage maps of the country? What part are you in that you can't get your email anywhere you need it? Offline access just isn't a factor any longer. Have you seen how expensive cellular data plans are? Most people with mobile phones don't have them. Most people

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-01 Thread b_s-wilk
Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week--after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-01 Thread Jeff Miles
I haven't really been paying attention to this thread, but now I think I should have. My son, for his birthday, wants a flash drive. I was looking at the 16gig one they have at Costco.com and here are the specs from that page. Capacity: 16GB Simple: Back up at the touch of a button, no

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of flash drives

2009-11-01 Thread Jeff Miles
I forgot to add this was a Sandisk flash drive. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Nov 1, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash