Yeah, It's called the United States of America, and the ilk. Whoa, that
will piss off a lot of people out side the USA.
Actually I'm all for arguing against certain regulation. Try remodeling
your house and having a city inspector come by. You'll be all against
regulation. I know
Sorry, Wholefoods, not Sprouts.
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On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Jeff Miles wrote:
>Haven't heard that argument or of Sprouts? But paying for our own
> health care? What a concept! But in reality,
It also got Obama elected. That soft middle keeps thinking they are getting
someone sane and they keep getting the rug pulled from them.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Jeff Miles wrote:
>I think you put to much "faith" on that soft middle. After all, it
> got the last Bush elected 1 1
My thinking on this is a bit different from most. I've only worked for
a large company twice in my life. Neither offered healthcare without my paying
$100+/month. And that was at the age of less then 30 both times. With these two
exceptions I've never worked for a company with more then
I think you put to much "faith" on that soft middle. After all, it got
the last Bush elected 1 1/2 times. And look at the nut he turned out to be.
Iraq, with Cheney blowing in his ear being one of his nuttier, aids
vaccinations to Africa and NASA being his few lucid moments.
Jeff Miles
Haven't heard that argument or of Sprouts? But paying for our own
health care? What a concept! But in reality, due to the insurance industry,
that's become an impossibility with the exception of dealing with a few scrapes
a bruises or just ignoring any health concerns in hope they'll go
Just remembered, it was John Conyers.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:07 AM, mike wrote:
> True, we agree..but when you have lobbyists for those big corporations
> writing the very regulations isn't that a problem? Which representative was
> it that laughed when a reporter asked if he had read the bi
True, we agree..but when you have lobbyists for those big corporations
writing the very regulations isn't that a problem? Which representative was
it that laughed when a reporter asked if he had read the bill he was voting
for?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:22 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
> OK I come from
I wasn't arguing no regulation, I never said that...but more regulation does
not in and of itself mean better. Stalinist Russia was regulated to literal
death of it's citizens...no regulation is anarchy as was said. There has to
be a middle.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Jeff Miles wrote:
Well said.
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On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:22 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
>>> OK I come from this on both sides.
>>>
>>> As a theologian I view mankind through both eyes. He is basically
Wow, two people can read something completely differently. And who
gives a rats ass what Madison wanted? We have a bill of rights, thank us. Or at
least our relatives. We probably wouldn't be having this discussion, or
anything even closely related if we didn't have them. Like those agai
Bob,
I think there's a word for that also. Isn't that called fanaticism?
The way I see it, if you're absolutely sure you're right, you may or may not
be, but you're unlikely to be deterred from your faith and unquestioning lack
of thought.
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How about the health care bill? Unions got a sweetheart deal to be free
from the higher taxes of the more expensive health plans thus screwing would
be smaller businesses wanting to give their employees good plans. In
general, do you really think all the lobbying by multinational/multibillion
dol
One and the same. At least for the most part. We all have an inner
mindset and a public mindset. From what I've seen, our inner mindset is a lot
more moderate then our public one. This whole Apple debate is a perfect
example. Apple was once known as the creative and apart from the crowd
Yes the R's would have said he was soft on pick your poison, but I think
there is a vast middle who doesn't like the broad stroke control measures of
that specific law. And it would have been the right thing to do.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Jeff Miles wrote:
>No he couldn't. And
Sounds like one of the arguments the CEO of Sprouts? was making...make
people *pay* for their health care and they might not go for every
sniffle...they might take care of themselves better. If we all had grocery
store insurance we'd be buying steak every day of the week instead of ramen
noodles t
OK I come from this on both sides.
As a theologian I view mankind through both eyes. He is basically
good, but there is a corrupt part of him that will screw you whenever
he gets a chance.
Sorry Stewart, I know you're in the business of thinking people are good, but these two statements are co
You and my uncle would really get along, at least on that idea. He
believes the whole health care debate is a bunch of garbage due to problems
we've created ourselves with our own health and care. And he's not far off on
that. If the majority of us didn't need health care at every cut an
Examples please.
Except sometimes the regulation is used to do the screwing.
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Apple isn't ensnared, they are doing this themselves. Apple is bar far the
most controlling tech company out there, controlling their customers,
controlling themselves..
That's silly. Ridiculous.
Apple doesn't control their customers. They provide products that people
like, and if there's som
And the Constitution is a specific lack of regulation. Madison didn't even
want a bill of rights for fear it would weaken the individual by enumerating
specific rights, thus perhaps conversely weakening the power of citizens by
the absence of other rights.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:07 PM, t.piwo
No he couldn't. And not have survived the criticism of anything else he
wants to get done. "Soft on communism" comes to mind. It would have been echoed
through the media had he repealed the Patriot Act. "He's nothing but a
socialist soft on terrorism."
Terrorism and socialism see
On Feb 28, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
So regulation is both a good thing and a bad thing depending on how
it is done.
Lest we forget, the Ten Commandments is "regulation."
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On Feb 28, 2010, at 2:17 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Why doesn't Apple Corp. develop a means of either preventing or
making it difficult for users of their computers to be able to access
or use "overtly sexual" material or applications?
Because Apple has customers around the world who aren't
On Feb 28, 2010, at 11:08 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that Apple has taken this approach with the iPhone because
their legal department told them to do it. At the moment, I cannot
think of another reason for this step to have been taken
For a business the two most destructive profes
Bob I have no need to convince anyone of what I believe, but when
asked I will explain it.
Also note that I believe it to be truth, but am aware that what I
believe is truth may not be what others believe.
The reality I stated is that people are dual natured.
I cant remember the old axiom bu
At 07:20 PM 2/28/2010, Stewart Marshall wrote:
Lutheran Theology is unique on this one. We believe in "Simul Justus Et
Picatur" Luther's oft quoted Latin phrase means Sinner yet at the same
time Saint!
So yes they are contradictory, but also reality.
If it (the contradictory aspects o
He could have say..not signed it. Forced the R's to try and sell the
patriot act yet again. There were plenty of D's who wanted to add some
protections for the citizens in there...waitaminute isn't that what the
constitution is for? This is the kind of issue those crazy tea party people
would ha
Moderation in all things is good.
Stewart
At 09:22 PM 2/28/2010, you wrote:
Except sometimes the regulation is used to do the screwing.
On Feb 28, 2010 8:12 PM, "Reid Katan" wrote:
Quoting "Rev. Stewart Marshall" :
OK I come from this on both sides.
>
> As a theologian I view mankind thro
It is not just the mind but also the culture.
Stewart
At 10:28 PM 2/28/2010, you wrote:
Yep, damn neocons. I'm not letting Obama off the hook on
this, but repealing something isn't as easy and cut and dried as it
sounds. Easy to talk about, but damn hard to do. Just look at the
"don't
Far fewer of those types, they don't last very long.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Jeff Miles wrote:
>And also frightening to think there are some out there who are
> against all regulation. Isn't there a word for that, oh yeah, anarchy?
>
>
> Jeff Miles
> jmile...@charter.net
>
> Joi
Yep, damn neocons. I'm not letting Obama off the hook on this, but
repealing something isn't as easy and cut and dried as it sounds. Easy to talk
about, but damn hard to do. Just look at the "don't ask, don't tell" crap.
You'd think they'd just change the rule and allow competent people
It's far easier for a kid to get a hold of an iphone/ipod touch and use
safari to look at chicks in bikinis than they can get the password to
download such apps. It makes no sense...so therefore it probably is the
lawyers...
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, F
And also frightening to think there are some out there who are against
all regulation. Isn't there a word for that, oh yeah, anarchy?
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On Feb 28, 2010, at 5:10 PM, mike wro
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:08 PM, mike wrote:
> Apple isn't ensnared, they are doing this themselves. Apple is bar far the
> most controlling tech company out there, controlling their customers,
> controlling themselves..
I think that Apple has taken this approach with the iPhone because
their
Yes, and just with most of our laws, the public and our representatives
are the regulators. Making the banks self regulating was the dumbest move in
the world. What's that old saying, putting the fox in charge of the hen house?
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Lutheran Theology is unique on this one.
We believe in "Simul Justus Et Picatur"
Luther's oft quoted Latin phrase means Sinner yet at the same time Saint!
So yes they are contradictory, but also reality.
Stewart
At 09:07 PM 2/28/2010, you wrote:
Quoting "Rev. Stewart Marshall" :
OK I come
Except sometimes the regulation is used to do the screwing.
On Feb 28, 2010 8:12 PM, "Reid Katan" wrote:
Quoting "Rev. Stewart Marshall" :
OK I come from this on both sides.
>
> As a theologian I view mankind through both eyes. He is basically
> good, but there is a corrupt part of him that w
Quoting "Rev. Stewart Marshall" :
OK I come from this on both sides.
As a theologian I view mankind through both eyes. He is basically
good, but there is a corrupt part of him that will screw you whenever
he gets a chance.
Sorry Stewart, I know you're in the business of thinking people are
OK I come from this on both sides.
Regulation is neither a good thing or a bad thing depending on how
you view human nature.
If you view human nature as basically good and fell that you can
trust your fellow man to make decisions for your good. Than
regulation is a bad thing.
However if y
Give him some of yours, you have to have several laying about.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:35 PM, tjpa wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Jeff Miles wrote:
>
>> I believe he must have meant to type deregulation and his fingers missed
>> the "de" keys. Anyone with eyes can see that regulation st
Of course...like the patriot act that neocon Obama just extended. Damn
neocons!
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:34 PM, tjpa wrote:
> On Feb 28, 2010, at 8:10 PM, mike wrote:
>
>> It's frightening to think there are some out there who believe all
>> regulation is inherently good.
>>
>
> No body wrote
On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Jeff Miles wrote:
I believe he must have meant to type deregulation and his fingers
missed the "de" keys. Anyone with eyes can see that regulation stems
corruption
You are obviously not wearing those ideologically colored glasses.
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On Feb 28, 2010, at 8:10 PM, mike wrote:
It's frightening to think there are some out there who believe all
regulation is inherently good.
No body wrote that. There are certainly a percent or two of
regulations that are not beneficial. Those will, of course, be the
only regulations that the
It's frightening to think there are some out there who believe all
regulation is inherently good.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:03 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Jeff Miles wrote:
>
> >Maybe it's just me, but I believe regulation to be a rather good thing.
>
> Ye
Apple isn't ensnared, they are doing this themselves. Apple is bar far the
most controlling tech company out there, controlling their customers,
controlling themselves..
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:55 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:43 PM, tjpa wrote:
>
> > I don't know
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Jeff Miles wrote:
>Maybe it's just me, but I believe regulation to be a rather good thing.
Yeah, if you are the regulator! Consider the banks after they
nearly brought down the economy. Any mention of tighter regulation in
the wake of that disaster, the banks
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:43 PM, tjpa wrote:
> I don't know why Apple is getting ensnared in this.
One word: INNOVATION. Another one: FEAR.
Steve
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I believe he must have meant to type deregulation and his fingers
missed the "de" keys. Anyone with eyes can see that regulation stems
corruption. After all, isn't that why we have laws? You and I are regulated
from breaking into our neighbors home and steeling their new flat screen tv.
On Feb 28, 2010, at 2:17 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
Why doesn't Apple Corp. develop a means of either preventing or
making it difficult for users of their computers to be able to access
or use "overtly sexual" material or applications?
I don't know why Apple is getting ensnared in this. The
I keep wondering about this myself...who in Apple is doing this and why?
Are they going to start banning certain sites on the phone also?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:17 PM, phartz...@gmail.com
wrote:
> Why doesn't Apple Corp. develop a means of either preventing or
> making it difficult for users
Why doesn't Apple Corp. develop a means of either preventing or
making it difficult for users of their computers to be able to access
or use "overtly sexual" material or applications? To mention that
their sales figures would drop is a no-brainer, so what about other
reasons? What about the chi
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