[CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread t.piwowar
91% of computers that are not junk are made by Apple... http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/23/the-mac-versus-pc-debate-has- never-been-clearer/ "Instead, Apple is content to keep churning out its high-quality, high-margin machines, and watch the profits roll in. If it happens to gain market

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I think these words say it all. "Instead, Apple is content to keep churning out its high-quality, high-margin machines, and watch the profits roll in. " So Apple is just another money grubbing capitalist. Stewart At 01:49 PM 7/25/2009, you wrote: 91% of computers that are not junk are made

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Wright
> 91% of computers that are not junk are made by Apple... Are you really so insecure that you constantly have to rationalize and validate your choices? Is it really so important what P. Diddy is wearing this week? Nothing stinks up a place as a lack of confidence in one's decisions. Man up and

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > So Apple is just another money grubbing capitalist. Apple is another money grubbing capitalist corporation as they pretty much all tend to be, but they are not wholly consumed with making money at every turn. I can personally atte

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread mike
Ridiculous, every move a corporation makes is selfish and in it's own best interest...apple takes care of it's customers because it sees a return on that investment, not because they are big hearted. If a company puts aside profit, they cease existing...or become the government and we know where t

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:03 PM, mike wrote: > Ridiculous, every move a corporation makes is selfish and in it's own best > interest...apple takes care of it's customers because it sees a return on > that investment, not because they are big hearted.  If a company puts aside > profit, they cease e

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread mike
And these other computer makers probably don't sell premium units like Apple nor charge what Apple does. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:08 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:03 PM, mike wrote: > > > > I have no experiences with other computer makers along these same > lines, s

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:57 PM, mike wrote: > And these other computer makers probably don't sell premium units like Apple > nor charge what Apple does. From what I understand of the consumer computer market, what you say is probably mostly true. It seems likely to me that after-the-sale supp

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread mike
This seems extreme even for Apple. Why would they do something like this outside the 1 year warranty or 3 year extended? This seems more like a very pleasant mistake on Apple's part then anything near the norm. The times I've dealt with Apple they have been fine, but not crazy like this seems to

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM, mike wrote: > This seems extreme even for Apple.  Why would they do something like this > outside the 1 year warranty or 3 year extended?  This seems more like a very > pleasant mistake on Apple's part then anything near the norm.  The times > I've dealt with Apple

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I think there is no question that Apple has figured out that Customer Service (Good customer service) is one way of keeping customers brand loyal. Would that many other companies would follow suit. Hats off to Apple for showing other companies what it means to go above and beyond. Stewart

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
This is part of why MicroSoft looks so bad in comparison. They write code to run on a pile of hardware put together by others. Some of these machines are well built and lots of others are not. Microsoft is often blamed for the fault of others. When Apple screws up they own the problem whether i

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
As I have said MS is a company that sells software, Apple sells hardware. Stewart At 10:40 PM 7/25/2009, you wrote: This is part of why MicroSoft looks so bad in comparison. They write code to run on a pile of hardware put together by others. Some of these machines are well built and lots o

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread betty
Steve - The same think happened to my friend Frank last year when he took his broken out-of-warranty PowerBook to the Apple Store. Apple didn't have the parts any more so they offered him a free MacBook Pro or a MacBook Air for $300. He owns an MBP so he got the MBA--and they eventually fixed hi

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 25, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Are you really so insecure that you constantly have to rationalize and validate your choices? Is it really so important what P. Diddy is wearing this week? Nothing pains WFBs more than a clear-eyed view of market dynamics. Time to face the tr

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-25 Thread Jeff Wright
> Time to face the truth. The predominant reason for getting a PC is > poverty. MS even advertises that on the TV. What you call poverty, normal people call frugality and thrift. Those are positive values, in case you were wondering. The only evident truth here is your usual out-of-touch arrogan

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread Jeff Miles
Sorry, but that's just wrong. Those who are frugal and thrift buy things that last. Those who think they are being frugal and thrift shop for slightly underpriced things with even less value. Then they buy it again, and again. Another anecdotal story, but I have more then a few friends who

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread Jeff Wright
> Sorry, but that's just wrong. Those who are frugal and thrift buy > things that last. Those who think they are being frugal and thrift > shop for slightly underpriced things with even less value. Then they > buy it again, and again. There's a fallacy in your theory: you presume that all t

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: What you call poverty, normal people call frugality and thrift. Those are positive values, in case you were wondering. Some people can't tell the difference and apparently you are one. For example, such people think that getting a pay-day loan

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: There's a fallacy in your theory: you presume that all things of the same price are of equal quality and that nothing of a lower price can be of equal or greater quality. No. I look at quality and worry about the price later. Looks to me l

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread Jeff Wright
> No. I look at quality and worry about the price later. Looks to me > like you start with price and then try to scrounge up something that > is not terrible. I'll admit that sometimes this works. Does Muffy take this approach with the gardeners? I'll bet the help steals from you anyway. **

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread Jeff Wright
> Some people can't tell the difference and apparently you are one. Oh, I can alright. That's why my life is largely Apple free and will be so for the foreseeable future. I have plenty non-boutique products that don't cost me a chunk of my soul and work great. I just have to bear the crushing w

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: You're so stuck in monolithic thinking, and god knows I've tried to help you out of that before, but my empathy well has run dry for you on that matter. Blissfully flail away. Here is somebody else in need of help with monolithic thinking...

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: My banker calls it smart. Fine, except that your banker is the Cash Point store. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calm

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
"Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with 'Guru Bars'" http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/24/microsoft_stores_to_mimic_apples_with_guru_bars.html "A leaked presentation has exposed Microsoft's tentative plans for its retail stores -- and the high degree to which they'll imitate Apple s

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Jordan wrote: Can you imagine the nightmare of an MS guru bar!? But maybe if they had free drinks...? That would only encourage fist fights. Its a good thing that the NRA didn't get its gun slinger bill passed.

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread Jordan
t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Jordan wrote: Can you imagine the nightmare of an MS guru bar!? But maybe if they had free drinks...? That would only encourage fist fights. Its a good thing that the NRA didn't get its gun slinger bill passed. Now you're talking about a rea

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Jordan wrote: > Can you imagine the nightmare of an MS guru bar!? They'll likely fix most problems the way that so many other places fix Windows problems. Wipe the hard drive. That oughta do it, right? Quick and easy. You did see that option on the work orde

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-26 Thread Mike
The guru bar will be equipped with a large magnet embedded in the counter...your problems will be fixed as soon as you put your computer down. Sent from my iPod On Jul 26, 2009, at 7:26 PM, "phartz...@gmail.com" wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Jordan wrote: Can you imagine th

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-27 Thread Jeff Miles
I know of many manufacturers and retails that would absolutely love you. Jeff M On Jul 26, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Sorry, but that's just wrong. Those who are frugal and thrift buy things that last. Those who think they are being frugal and thrift shop for slightly und

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-27 Thread David K Watson
Since they are Microsoft, they really ought to call them Wizard bars. Black robes and pointy hats with astral symbols would help too. On Jul 26, 2009, at 4:30 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:"t.piwowar" ... "A leaked presentation has exposed Microsoft's tentati

Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%

2009-07-27 Thread David K Watson
What was I saying?! Microsoft stores shouldn't have guru bars at all, they should have windows! They should still be populated with "wizards" though, rather than gurus. And wizard attire would be just the kind of branding they need to set themselves apart from Apple. Since they are Microsoft

[CGUYS] Customer service [Was:Re: [CGUYS] Mac's True Market Share is 91%]

2009-07-26 Thread katan
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:21:02 -0500, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: >I think there is no question that Apple has figured out that Customer >Service (Good customer service) is one way of keeping customers brand loyal. > >Would that many other companies would follow suit. > >Hats off to Apple for show