> AAC is Apple's name for MP4.
Yes, I know that. So, you just contradicted yourself; par for Tom's course.
> Any questions?
Yes, why are you so full of...never mind.
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>Apple stopped selling in the AAC format?
AAC is Apple's name for MP4. FireWire is Apple's name for IEEE 1394.
Macintosh is Apple's name for a PC.
Any questions?
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> Funny that all my iTunes stuff is either MP3 or MP4. Maybe you are
> running ZuneTunes? Or are you flogging Apple for moving on to MP4 format?
> Got those "MP3 FOREVER" bumper stickers on your car?
Apple stopped selling in the AAC format? News to me and damned if I
could find a single thing on
>> What's actually happening in that space is
>> that everyone uses MP3 format, exactly as they should.
>Well, *almost* everyone. **cough** iTunes **cough**
Funny that all my iTunes stuff is either MP3 or MP4. Maybe you are
running ZuneTunes? Or are you flogging Apple for moving on to MP4 forma
> Jeff's alter ego -- Joseph Stalin -- speaks. Off to the Gulag with you!
Sorry Tom, I didn't mean to step on your turf. Go beat the help; you know
how that makes you feel better.
> Bad analogy. That's hardware.
No, it's a market supply response in meeting demand. Should I go over it
with you
WordPerfect achieved 78% market saturation, but not because it was nearly
bug free;
it was because they chose to not implement copy protection. Business would
buy it,
and the employees would copy it and take it home. When the employee went to
a new
company, they would recommend it! The EULA
First came windows and their first implementation to windows did not go well.
They came out with WP6 and that was much better. Then came all the
management changes.
They were a great Unix/Xenix WP and our clients loved it.
Stewart
At 05:09 PM 4/28/2009, you wrote:
Art Clemons
>> According
Tom Piwowar
>> It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several
>> times first to Novell and then Corel.
> The big failure was that the folks at WordPerfect never
> figured out how to re-engineer their program for a GUI.
> They made lots of mistakes. Their menu structure was
> terrible. The t
> It also didn't help that WordPerfect got sold several
> times first to Novell and then Corel.
The big failure was that the folks at WordPerfect never figured out how
to re-engineer their program for a GUI. They made lots of mistakes. Their
menu structure was terrible. The tried to invent their
It did.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
> Art Clemons
> >> According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't
> >> document the Windows interface so that WP could use it. The
> >> document was very interesting. It was things I had all along
> >> but never had
Art Clemons
>> According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't
>> document the Windows interface so that WP could use it. The
>> document was very interesting. It was things I had all along
>> but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and
>> document.
> It also didn't help th
> According to a study sponsored by the EU(?ECIS?), MS didn't
> document the Windows interface so that WP could use it. The
> document was very interesting. It was things I had all along
> but never had a strong enough desire to hunt down and
> document.
It also didn't help that WordPerfect got
Art Clemons
>> "Ubiquitous" maybe, but "popular" I think not. Pushing
>> software down people's throats is no way to win a
>> popularity contest.
> I remember WordPerfect and WordStar being the dominant
> word processors, with Lotus and MS being real also rans.
> WordPerfect at the time was a much
>
> I like not being stuck at all with firefox. :)
>
took this to mean you didn't like FF.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:36 PM, mike wrote:
> I do like it...unless you want me to name some things I don't like?
>
> Not sure if you may have misread or I wasn't clear?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2
I do like it...unless you want me to name some things I don't like?
Not sure if you may have misread or I wasn't clear?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Judy Cosler wrote:
> what don't you like about Firefox, Mike?
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, mike wrote:
>
> > I like not being stuck
what don't you like about Firefox, Mike?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, mike wrote:
> I like not being stuck at all with firefox. :)
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:13 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike wrote:
> >
> > > Right...Safari comes preinstalled re
I like not being stuck at all with firefox. :)
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:13 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike wrote:
>
> > Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box.
> >
> > Safari is Apple's answer to Microsoft's IE. I would much rather
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike wrote:
> Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box.
>
> Safari is Apple's answer to Microsoft's IE. I would much rather be stuck
with Safari.
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Right...Safari comes preinstalled ready to abuse out of the box.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
> >Like pushing Safari out to people who didn't ask for it while updating
> their
> >iTunes?
>
> That stinks.They don't do that to Mac owners. Perhaps they think WFBs are
> used
> "Ubiquitous" maybe, but "popular" I think not. Pushing software down
> people's throats is no way to win a popularity contest.
I remember WordPerfect and WordStar being the dominant word processors,
with Lotus and MS being real also rans. WordPerfect at the time was a
much better choice for mo
> Silverlight does work on most computers, since most computers run Windows,
> but who knows if this is the case here. Now, it's debatable as to how many
> computers actually have SilverLight installed on them, but the fact remains
> that web developers who code sites that lean towards Windows
>Like pushing Safari out to people who didn't ask for it while updating their
>iTunes?
That stinks.They don't do that to Mac owners. Perhaps they think WFBs are
used to being abused?
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MS suffered a big blow last year when Major League Baseball dropped
Silverlight and are using Adobe Flash this year for the MLB streaming of
games. It is a noticeable improvement.
And Netflix switched from WMP to Silverlight last fall for its Watch
Instantly streaming of movies. Many users are
Like pushing Safari out to people who didn't ask for it while updating their
iTunes?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
> >Actually I expect Silverlight to become even more popular over time.
>
> "Ubiquitous" maybe, but "popular" I think not. Pushing software down
> people's thr
>Actually I expect Silverlight to become even more popular over time.
"Ubiquitous" maybe, but "popular" I think not. Pushing software down
people's throats is no way to win a popularity contest.
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> Are there radio streams that use Silverlight??? Many radio stations have
> alternate streams. Silverlight doesn't work on a lot of computers. I'd
> complain to the station and ask them to get something more widely used for
> their stream, or to have an alternate stream.
Actually I expect Silv
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
> >> > I found three plug ins- two Microsoft DRM and the Windows Media Player
> >> > Dynamic Link Library.
> >>
> >
> >They are all firefox plugins.
>
> Well, no.
They are all in the Firefox plugin list on my PC. I think that makes them
plugi
>Are there radio streams that use Silverlight??? Many radio stations have
>alternate streams. Silverlight doesn't work on a lot of computers. I'd
>complain to the station and ask them to get something more widely used
>for their stream, or to have an alternate stream.
Or just move on to another
>While I agree with you that web sites should be agnostic, your ongoing
>jihad against those who don't comply with the demands of the 3 percenters
>is comical.
Jeff's alter ego -- Joseph Stalin -- speaks. Off to the Gulag with you!
>the fact remains that web developers who code sites that lean
>> > I found three plug ins- two Microsoft DRM and the Windows Media Player
>> > Dynamic Link Library.
>>
>
>They are all firefox plugins.
Well, no.
>From what I was able to piece together, if FF detects that it needs those
plugins to display some media and finds them installed for IE it will
l
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:42 AM, mike wrote:
> Tom said they were in Firefox..not just on the computer.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:58 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
> wrote:
>
> > I found three plug ins- two Microsoft DRM and the Windows Media Player
> > Dynamic Link Library.
>
They are all firefox plu
> Are there radio streams that use Silverlight??? Many radio stations
> have
> alternate streams. Silverlight doesn't work on a lot of computers. I'd
> complain to the station and ask them to get something more widely used
> for their stream, or to have an alternate stream.
While I agree with you
Tom said they were in Firefox..not just on the computer.
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:58 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:
> I found three plug ins- two Microsoft DRM and the Windows Media Player
> Dynamic Link Library.
> --
> John Duncan Yoyo
> ---o)
>
>
>
Well, Tom, the DRM and Silverlight could have been installed by an streaming
radio station. I tried disabling them and lo and behold tonight I couldn't
get a connect to a streaming radio station I listen to online. I enabled
them in order to get the streaming working.
Are there radio streams t
I found three plug ins- two Microsoft DRM and the Windows Media Player
Dynamic Link Library.
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Well, Tom, the DRM and Silverlight could have been installed by an streaming
radio station. I tried disabling them and lo and behold tonight I couldn't
get a connect to a streaming radio station I listen to online. I enabled
them in order to get the streaming working.
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:
> Or does it demonstrate how little Jeff knows about Windows?
You're on to me. I don't know about 2 obscure files. Game. Set. Match.
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You were talking about xp a minute ago?
So firefox reads plug ins in the windows media folder? All my extensions
are in one place which is the firefox app folder. You also mentioned
silverlight, what happened with that one? That is user installed. I have
to always install a WMP plug in for my
>Same here. I just searched the FF add-on site for "Microsoft" and
>"silverlight" and found nothing like Tom describes.
>I think Tom is demonstrating how easily it is to be the mark of a social
>hack.
Or does it demonstrate how little Jeff knows about Windows?
https://support.mozilla.com/tiki-vi
> You installed it. I've never even heard of a 'MS DRM' plug in...you
> seem to
> attract very strange issues. I've been running FF on computers since
> it
> came out, I've never had it install any extensions without my doing so.
>
> I've also never known MS to be 'stealthy'.
Same here. I just
You installed it. I've never even heard of a 'MS DRM' plug in...you seem to
attract very strange issues. I've been running FF on computers since it
came out, I've never had it install any extensions without my doing so.
I've also never known MS to be 'stealthy'.
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:58
Firefox on my XP PC has not been working very well of late. Very sluggish
and crash prone. This morning I took a look at its plugins panel and
discovered it is infested with things I never asked for, like a couple of
"Microsoft DRM" plugins, one for Microsoft Office Live, Silverlight, etc.
I tr
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