Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-16 Thread Art Clemons
Tom, in DC Economy 1 service costs $6.00 a month. No bells and whistles and you pay 6 cents a call. Local calling only. With taxes and surcharges that's no more than $12.00 a month. I suggest $12 a month is reasonable for security. Further I suspect one can still call toll free numbers,

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Piwowar
Are you talking about the Jitterbug cell phone? Someone in an another group I frequent had an awful time getting one of those to work. Want to tell us more or provide a link to their archive? -- Thomas Piwowar - Thomas J.

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-16 Thread John J Settle
Here's one I think. http://www.jitterbug.com/ The scary part is footnote #1: ¹Not including government taxes, assessment surcharges and activation fee. If the surcharge is anything like the gotcha airfare surcharge not included in that low advertised price, it can wind up being an

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Else
That is almost identical language to the footnote on a price-hike announcement we got yesterday from Verizon (we have their DSL service). No mention in there about whether or not we will have the option of switching to FiOS, just the price hike to more than $20 per month. John J Settle [EMAIL

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-16 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
It was a side conversation on usenet. Ok a quick trip to google groups turned up the beginning of the saga in September. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/browse_thread/thread/3ac9648fb8cb5428/da1bf0155f137ffd?lnk=gstq=jitterbug+#da1bf0155f137ffd Anim8orFSK changed his signature in

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tom, in DC Economy 1 service costs $6.00 a month. No bells and whistles and you pay 6 cents a call. Local calling only. With taxes and surcharges that's no more than $12.00 a month. Thanks Eric. My Mom is in New York and we have spent many hours talking to Verizon/MCI trying to get her a

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-15 Thread Jeff Miles
Yes, what's that one advertised all the time? It has big buttons and is only a cell phone without all the gimmicks like camera and web access, etc. And they advertise it has plans as low as $9.95/mo. It's called the skipper, or some stupid name like that. I'll have to wait for the

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-15 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Jitter bug? Stewart At 05:40 PM 4/15/2008, you wrote: Yes, what's that one advertised all the time? It has big buttons and is only a cell phone without all the gimmicks like camera and web access, etc. And they advertise it has plans as low as $9.95/mo. It's called the skipper, or

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-15 Thread John Settle
Yes, that's it. Here's a link: *http://tinyurl.com/5ztmz4* Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Jitter bug? Stewart At 05:40 PM 4/15/2008, you wrote: Yes, what's that one advertised all the time? It has big buttons and is only a cell phone without all the gimmicks like camera and web

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-15 Thread Jeff Miles
I really should read ahead before responding to my own posts. You guys got it! Jeff M On Apr 15, 2008, at 5:06 PM, John Settle wrote: Yes, that's it. Here's a link: *http://tinyurl.com/5ztmz4* Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Jitter bug? Stewart At 05:40 PM 4/15/2008, you wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-15 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Are you talking about the Jitterbug cell phone? Someone in an another group I frequent had an awful time getting one of those to work. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Jeff Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, what's that one advertised all the time? It has big buttons and is only a

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-13 Thread Ralph
We must be talking about two different things. The plan I read about in the telephone directory wasn't that cheap... The phone companies deserve all the bashing they get. I remember visiting my elderly mother, in Florida, and thinking I'd take a few minutes to reduce the full-option phone

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-13 Thread Scott McClure
@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:15:18 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS In the past I have tried to get info on this kind of service and found nothing. I wanted to get it for my 90 year old Mom who never uses the phone and should not be wasting her social secutity check

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-13 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 2:15 PM -0400 4/12/08, Eric S. Sande wrote: In the past I have tried to get info on this kind of service and found nothing. I wanted to get it for my 90 year old Mom who never uses the phone and should not be wasting her social secutity check on enriching the phone company. I think

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-13 Thread Eric S. Sande
Thanks for the link. I followed it up. It is a stingy program. The plan will reduce the monthly bill by up to $13.30. I expect that up to means the real reduction will be significantly less. To qualify you have to be very poor. The least expensive service I could find was about $50/month. So

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-13 Thread Eric S. Sande
We must be talking about two different things. The plan I read about in the telephone directory wasn't that cheap... The phone companies deserve all the bashing they get. I remember visiting my elderly mother, in Florida, and thinking I'd take a few minutes to reduce the full-option phone

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-13 Thread Mason Miller
You could also add several batteries in parallel and extend the amount of backup time. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Apr 12, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I'ld suggest anyone worried about losing connectivity after the UPS for FIOS runs

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-12 Thread Tom Piwowar
Personally I'ld suggest anyone worried about losing connectivity after the UPS for FIOS runs out, get or keep a 2nd line with as minimum a service as possible (look up lifesaver line on Verizon's website for an idea of what I mean). Googling in site:verizon.com lifesaver line or

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-12 Thread Eric S. Sande
In the past I have tried to get info on this kind of service and found nothing. I wanted to get it for my 90 year old Mom who never uses the phone and should not be wasting her social secutity check on enriching the phone company. I think lifesaver is an urban myth disseminated by Verizon to

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-12 Thread Ralph
I remember seeing such a plan described, in the telephone directory, some years ago - It offered 50 calls a month (outgoing, unlimited incoming IIRC). My guess would be the phone companies, realizing that demand for such a plan was likely to skyrocket, quietly worked with their

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-12 Thread Eric S. Sande
My guess would be the phone companies, realizing that demand for such a plan was likely to skyrocket, quietly worked with their congressional-critter friends to have it outlawed (in the consumer interest, of course.) Wrong. It's available, it's used. In the District it costs $3.00 a month.

[CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-11 Thread Scott McClure
While walking my dogs the other evening I noticed that many of the utility poles in my subdivision have looped or coiled black cables taped onto them. Some of the coils have an end that goes up to the level where the phone lines are installed. I took a look at one loop of cable and it had a

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
I watched the installation in my neighborhood. They wrapped the fiber line around the existing POTS lines. It was sort of cool there was a spinner that wrapped the fiber around the line as it was pulled down the line by a guy in a cherry picker bucket at line height from a moving truck. They

Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS

2008-04-11 Thread Art Clemons
Scott McClure: 1) With all the recent list discussion of the removal of the POTS copper lines during a FIOS installation, what is the make-up of the lines that run along the poles after the work that I am seeing performed? Verizon tends to leave the copper lines in place unless of course an