Re: [Cooker] Sad state of pre-releasing to consumers

2000-11-03 Thread JMC
I would contribute it this option were available. Jim ><> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, you wrote: > > How about another pricing plan here? Direct sale from > > MandrakeSoft on new versions. I want to start installing Mandrake > > on computer's for friends and family but I have no need of the > > li

Re: [Cooker] Will there be a LM7.21???

2000-11-03 Thread Randy Welch
Jason Straight wrote: > > I think I would have to agree with this release often and make smaller > changes, probably would help for stability and upgrades would probably go > smoother too not having to update 99% of the rpm's from release to release. > There are never little releases. I've do

[Cooker] great work on the libstc++ dependancy updates

2000-11-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
Hey folks! Great job on getting some of the packages that depend on the older libstdc++ package recompiled with the new one so we can all get on with updating our cookers. Here is a list from my system of what still depends on the older libstdc++. libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 is needed by g

Re: [Cooker] Internal Modem Configuration problem

2000-11-03 Thread Robert L Martin
I agree that he probably does have a winmodem, but I take issue with your "WinModem checklist". How is it that any of these first four items mean you have a winmodem? There is no relationship between PCI and winmodems. There is nothing stopping a "real modem" manufacturer from making a PCI mod

Re: [Cooker] Will there be a LM7.21???

2000-11-03 Thread Jason Straight
On Friday 03 November 2000 18:43, you wrote: > hey, > Guys i was wondering if there will be a LM7.21 release or will we just have > to wait another 6 months for the next release. I think you guys should > release LM7.21 or something in a couple of months, maybe in 3 months, which > will hopefully

Re: [Cooker] Boot process hangs with 7.2 and "autotune"

2000-11-03 Thread Warren Doney
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > "Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The line "append=" hdd=ide-scsi ide1=autotune ide0=autotune"" is included > > in lilo.conf by default. It causes the boot process to hang when detecting > > my Yamaha CRW8824E CD burner at hdd. Removing the autotune lines

Re: [Cooker] Boot process hangs with 7.2 and "autotune"

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The line "append=" hdd=ide-scsi ide1=autotune ide0=autotune"" is included > in lilo.conf by default. It causes the boot process to hang when detecting > my Yamaha CRW8824E CD burner at hdd. Removing the autotune lines allows the > system to boot. The use of a

[Cooker] Boot process hangs with 7.2 and "autotune"

2000-11-03 Thread Hoyt
The line "append=" hdd=ide-scsi ide1=autotune ide0=autotune"" is included in lilo.conf by default. It causes the boot process to hang when detecting my Yamaha CRW8824E CD burner at hdd. Removing the autotune lines allows the system to boot. The use of autotune worked fine in 7.0 and 7.1. Hoyt

[Cooker] Will there be a LM7.21???

2000-11-03 Thread Khawar Zia
hey, Guys i was wondering if there will be a LM7.21 release or will we just have to wait another 6 months for the next release. I think you guys should release LM7.21 or something in a couple of months, maybe in 3 months, which will hopefully include a more stable version of kde2 and fix other bug

Re: [Cooker] Boot process hangs with 7.2 and "autotune"

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Well, OK, that may be true; it's "optional". But it is behavior different > from before (adding "autotune") and it isn't causing any data corruption, so > what's your point? > > My point is that using "autotune" causes the boot process to hang, someth

Re: [Cooker] Crufty Perl Installation in 7.2

2000-11-03 Thread Daniel Woods
> One of the biggest timesavers that I had come across is years was the CPAN > shell for installing perl modules (perl -MCPAN -e shell), ... Yes, very nice ! > ... perl is broken on Mandrake 7.2, I am kind of at a loss here. Short of > removing everything perl and perl related and recompiling pe

Re: [Cooker] error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Mark Polsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've specified KDEDIR as mentioned below, KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde1-compat > but not using QTDIR set as /usr/lib/qt because this is recognized by > configure. I still get the same error > > error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application >

Re: [Cooker] Cursor Problem in run level 3 , Mandrake 7.2

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
generic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, I noticed the same bug too. Hello Mandrake guys/gals, > let's try to squash this bug, O.K.? Ok, fine, but we did not see it here. Can you say if you have the same videoboard, or something? I'm afraid that you'll have to do a bit of investigation.. P

Re: [Cooker] SVGAlib on coker is still 1.4.1!!!

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
prosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I noted today that SVGAlib package has been patched recently. The version > keeps being 1.4.1. But for a few monthes the tarball 1.4.2 is already on > the road. And it is an important bugfix version that managed to solve some > serious problems with Voodoo and

Re: [Cooker] I am puzzled by people's behaviour...

2000-11-03 Thread pablito
I actually like the new 7.2 build (the one from the iso files) There are some funny things about it but overall it's a lot better than 7.1 - Original Message - From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2

Re: [Cooker] Cooker helpdesk

2000-11-03 Thread Ron Stodden
Jason Straight wrote: > Cooker is for questions or problems like - I can't compile XX package > with current cooker and gcc 2.96 or whatever, not how do I setup my printer > or modem or whatever. I agree that that is how things SHOULD be. But MandrakeSoft states that the cooker mailing list

Re: [Cooker] Cursor Problem in run level 3 , Mandrake 7.2

2000-11-03 Thread generic
Yes, I noticed the same bug too. Hello Mandrake guys/gals, let's try to squash this bug, O.K.? Hoyt wrote: > > When I reach the login screen in run level 3, the cursor is positioned at > the far left of the screen so that I type over the characters on the screen > prior to the prompt. As such,

[Cooker] Crufty Perl Installation in 7.2

2000-11-03 Thread Aaron Newsome
I am wondering about the perl installation that comes with Mandrake 7.2. Apparently it is doing something very strange, something I've never seen before. Specifically it is unable to install any of the modules on CPAN because,.. usually terminating with a message similar to: "Error: Unable to lo

[Cooker] Cursor Problem in run level 3 , Mandrake 7.2

2000-11-03 Thread Hoyt
When I reach the login screen in run level 3, the cursor is positioned at the far left of the screen so that I type over the characters on the screen prior to the prompt. As such, the login name is invalid. Of course, I can press enter twice to get to a correct login prompt, but I shouldn't have t

Re: [Cooker] Boot process hangs with 7.2 and "autotune"

2000-11-03 Thread Hoyt
- Original Message - From: "Guillaume Cottenceau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Boot process hangs with 7.2 and "autotune" > "Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The line "append=" hdd=ide-scsi ide1=autotune

Re: [Cooker] Oh the joy of installation

2000-11-03 Thread Matt Steven
On Thursday 02 November 2000 16:01, you wrote: > I hope this is not indicative of everyone's experience, can I do anything > further to help squish whatever problems there were (especially if they > were me). Unfortunately, it has been the experience of many of us. Mandrake 7.1 was SUPER, but 7

Re: [Cooker] error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application

2000-11-03 Thread Mark Polsen
I've specified KDEDIR as mentioned below, KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde1-compat but not using QTDIR set as /usr/lib/qt because this is recognized by configure. I still get the same error error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application Configure even recognizes the lib and include directo

[Cooker] CD detect failure

2000-11-03 Thread Quel Qun
"Godin, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bonjour > > I did a presentation of Mandrake 7.2 at my LUG yesterday. We needed to boot > from floppy first at that was successful, unfortunately the CD detection did > not work and requested to Identify the Creative Lab 32x CD connected to the > sound

Re: [Cooker] Oh the joy of installation

2000-11-03 Thread Jason Straight
Wow, that's bad, there's always someones machine that just has the wrong pieces of hardware. I can tell you that on my system (Dual Celeron 533's, Gigabyte 6bxd MB, Voodoo3 2000, Awe64, 3c590 network, Promise ultra 100 HD controller) everything was fine here. I never have used grub myself and I

Re: [Cooker] Supporting Mandrake, while still getting the latest and

2000-11-03 Thread dam's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("A. Rick Anderson") writes: > My linux box does NOT have connectivity to the internet at this time. > > But, I do have periodic access to a broadband internet connection and a > cdrom burner. From that I can download the current 7.2k2 image (ie > mandrake 7.2 with kde 2.0)

Re: [Cooker] Does someone know how to turn DGA on?

2000-11-03 Thread Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes
Hello to all     I will try to comment the answers I've got.  Please see below. Many many many thanks Eduardo       Try the latest Win4Lin, Beta4 I think. Magic. I bought win4lin 1.0 and tried beta3 two months ago.  When I upgrade my mandrake box to 7.2, I didn't manage to install win4lin.  I do

[Cooker] Oh the joy of installation

2000-11-03 Thread Ashbaugh, Jason L.
Hello everyone, I'm a newcomer to Linux Mandrake (I'm a WinNT Server Admin at a small college and I am the one who gets to plan future transitions... Linux is a definite possibility). I encountered several installation problems with version 7.2 (download ISO's). I could not setup networking in th

[Cooker] Supporting Mandrake, while still getting the latest and greatest image

2000-11-03 Thread A. Rick Anderson
My linux box does NOT have connectivity to the internet at this time. But, I do have periodic access to a broadband internet connection and a cdrom burner. From that I can download the current 7.2k2 image (ie mandrake 7.2 with kde 2.0) and burn me a current os image. If I purchase the power p

[Cooker] Cooker helpdesk

2000-11-03 Thread Jason Straight
This is what you call an oxymoron because cooker is not a helpdesk. Please if you have questions about how to [something] put it on the expert list - not here on cooker. Cooker is for questions or problems like - I can't compile XX package with current cooker and gcc 2.96 or whatever, not

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] bobobot-0-1mdk.preview2

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pixel a écrit : > > Description : > > BoboBot is a multi-level one-player action game starring "BoboBot," the > > robo-monkey. It's played with the keyboard, or optionally with a joystick > > Has Pixel pushed out Guillaume as the new Mr Games at Man

Re: [Cooker] error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application

2000-11-03 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach Guillaume Cottenceau am Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 02:46:00PM +0100: > ./configure %{_target_cpu}-mandrake-linux --prefix=%{_prefix} For all you non RPM-spec-file writers, this means ./configure i586-mandrake-linux --prefix=/usr/bin Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.dig

Re: [Cooker] mnt problems under KDE2 and MDK 7.2

2000-11-03 Thread Michael Powell PhD
Chris Cable wrote: > > Has any one else encountered this problem? When you browse to the /mnt > folder in konquerer the system just hangs. I thought at first it was the > internal zip but inserting a zip prior doesn't seem to help. I have a CD, > CDR and internal ZIP. > > Thanks > Chris > > ___

Re: [Cooker] I think that I've found the problems ! Or one of the problems.

2000-11-03 Thread Jason Straight
I've had similar problems with artsd, I've found it best to leave at the default settings. No realtime, no full duplex. You should switch X servers and see if that quenches your machine's thirst for crashing. I have NERVER had a problem in over 4 years of linux with anything like that that wa

Re: [Cooker] error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > > checking for KDE headers installed... configure: error: your system is > > > not able > > > to compile a small KDE application! [...] > > I can't presently check all the details, but basicaly you have to use > > kde1-compat-dev

Re: [Cooker] In the US, how do I get PowerPack Deluxe

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
"A. Rick Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the US, how do I get PowerPack Deluxe? > > It ain't available from any retailer that I can find in Northern Virginia. > > If I am lucky, what is out there is the McMillian *7.0* Basic package. AFAIK WalMart will only have the Complete version

Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: Mdk 7.2 installation and 32M RAM

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Christian Gennerat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : > > > People with enough bandwidth to do an FTP install can either burn an ISO > > or download to do an ISO or HD install.. > > No, an FTP install can be done with another PC on the same desk as server, > only becau

[Cooker] SVGAlib on coker is still 1.4.1!!!

2000-11-03 Thread prosa
I noted today that SVGAlib package has been patched recently. The version keeps being 1.4.1. But for a few monthes the tarball 1.4.2 is already on the road. And it is an important bugfix version that managed to solve some serious problems with Voodoo and TNT cards. Ektanoor

Re: [Cooker] I think that I've found the problems ! Or one of the problems.

2000-11-03 Thread Meir Faraj
On Friday 03 November 2000 01:44, you wrote: > I've found the kde (Xfree) problems ;-) > it was arts that was failled to get fullduplex and got because this all cpu > ressources of my computer and froze it > I hope it was only this ;-) > > because other friends 2 have experienced freeze proble

Re: [Cooker] Re: [OT] A propos de Konqueror ( enfrançais) [und deutsch]

2000-11-03 Thread Meir Faraj
On Thursday 02 November 2000 18:03, you wrote: > Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit : > > Meir Faraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If I wrote in hebrew a question , u will doesn't have also possibility > > > to try to understand it;-) > > > > give a try ? believe me even if you don't remember good i wa

Re: [Cooker] All bashing aside, can something be done to avoid confusion at Wal-Mart?

2000-11-03 Thread tracer
Hello Jason Straight, On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:51:07 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, November 01, 2000, 3:51:07 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jason Straight wrote: > I realize what's done is done, but to carry this out in a meaningful way, can > something be done so there isn't

Re: [Cooker] mnt problems under KDE2 and MDK 7.2

2000-11-03 Thread Jason Straight
I think the problem may be something else. Although this should be on the expert list, not cooker. I am guessing you have supermount or some other automounting stuff turned on? I don't, and I don't have that problem at all. On Friday 03 November 2000 00:51, you wrote: > Has any one else encou

Re: [Cooker] Freeze problem

2000-11-03 Thread Meir Faraj
On Friday 03 November 2000 11:18, you wrote: > Meir Faraj a écrit : > > I've found the kde (Xfree) problems ;-) > > it was arts that was failled to get fullduplex and got because this all > > cpu ressources of my computer and froze it > > I hope it was only this ;-) > > > > because other frien

[Cooker] No readline support in postgresql ?

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Rousse
It seems there isn't readline support enabled in postgresql, so no command line history, completion, etc... when using pgaccess. Or it is my own configuration (i do have readline installed, of course) ? -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary :

Re: [Cooker] No readline support in postgresql ?

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Guillaume Rousse a écrit : > > It seems there isn't readline support enabled in postgresql, so no > command line history, completion, etc... when using pgaccess Sorry, i meant psql. -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything ca

[Cooker] all_rsync.pl

2000-11-03 Thread Ron Stodden
Announcement: The older no_rsync.pl on my web site, which downloaded the 7.2beta tree (which no longer exists) has been replaced by all_rsync.pl. As supplied, all_rsync.pl downloads contrib, cooker, 7.2 and the 7.2 CD iso images to a place which must be edited in to all_rsync.pl before running i

Re: [Cooker] postfix rpm loses man pages

2000-11-03 Thread Thomas M. Beaudry
On Thu, 02 Nov 2000, you wrote: > > I updated my LM7.1 version of postfix with the devel version > > postfix-19991231_pl08-5mdk.i586.rpm > Could others verify if they get a man page with 'man postfix' ! > Has anyone else seen this problem, or solved it ? No problem here with the man pages.

Re: [Cooker] 7.2 very unstable but only under kde !!!! Need a patch ...

2000-11-03 Thread Meir Faraj
On Friday 03 November 2000 11:29, you wrote: > Meir Faraj a écrit : > > waaah , how can I verify the CD integrity after have burned it ? > > Mount them. If you can see what is there, or boot them ... you are not > far from a correct CD. > II've installed all packages without any problems . > > It

Re: [Cooker] Sad state of pre-releasing to consumers

2000-11-03 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 02 November 2000 06:09 am, wrote: > For once us Europeans got the better deal by paying more for our > stuff. You americans can't expect the same level of customer > service if you pay about half of what we all pay. > > Mark Hillary I'll say it one more time. Buy cheap CD's from

[Cooker] Explanation of the diff between Retail and Download

2000-11-03 Thread Jacques Le Marois
Please read this: "Retail and download - The differences" - From Frederic Bastok http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001101112231 And comments on MandrakeForum to keep Cooker for development only... Jacques

[Cooker] No netatalk package in Mandrake ?

2000-11-03 Thread Guillaume Rousse
I'm very surprised i can't find any netatalk package for Mandrake. I'm quite sure i used one some times ago. Did I dream -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.

[Cooker] I think that I've found the problems ! Or one of the problems.

2000-11-03 Thread Meir Faraj
I've found the kde (Xfree) problems ;-) it was arts that was failled to get fullduplex and got because this all cpu ressources of my computer and froze it I hope it was only this ;-) because other friends 2 have experienced freeze problems but not a lot one time or maximum 2 . so ;-)

Re: [Cooker] Does someone know how to turn DGA on?

2000-11-03 Thread generic
Actually, NO, do NOT uncomment the dga line. You need to have it commented out because the option is to "omit xfree86-dga". In the case of VMware, you want to use DGA, not omit it, so leave that option line commented out. VMware still considers XFree 4.0.x as unstable, even though in my opinion

Re: [Cooker] 7.2 very unstable but only under kde !!!! Need a patch ...

2000-11-03 Thread pgeorges
Meir Faraj a écrit : > waaah , how can I verify the CD integrity after have burned it ? Mount them. If you can see what is there, or boot them ... you are not far from a correct CD. > It's comming for example after moving xmms and after open gvim maximize it > and playing with the xmms again.

Re: [Cooker] how to corect these small (big?) problems ?

2000-11-03 Thread Tim McKenzie
> > should we download the new kde's packages from the coockers upgrades to > correct the unstability of kde 2 ? I'd be careful before downloading anything from cooker... I'm just getting ready to set aside a partition for cooker after moving my system over to 7.2. The reason I say this is, coo

Re: [Cooker] Freeze problem

2000-11-03 Thread pgeorges
Meir Faraj a écrit : > > I've found the kde (Xfree) problems ;-) > it was arts that was failled to get fullduplex and got because this all cpu > ressources of my computer and froze it > I hope it was only this ;-) > > because other friends 2 have experienced freeze problems but not a lot one

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] tripwire-2.3.0-1mdk

2000-11-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
from the quill of Florin Grad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on scroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --=-=-= > Name: tripwire Relocations: (not > relocateable) > Version : 2.3.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Woohoo! > - first Mandrake version. Should be integrate

Re: [Cooker] postfix rpm loses man pages

2000-11-03 Thread Daniel Woods
> I updated my LM7.1 version of postfix with the devel version > postfix-19991231_pl08-5mdk.i586.rpm > No problem updating, except that I no longer have man pages for > any of the postfix programs > ex: man postfix, man 1 postfix, man postmap, ... > I installed the devel groff-* packages b

[Cooker] 7.20 on celeron 566: Hung-up immediately...

2000-11-03 Thread Claudio
Hello. Just inserted the cdrom, booted... "ok, booting the kernel"... bogomips... memory... "intel architecture supported" STOP... NOTHING ELSE!!! It shouldn't be an hardware problem for installation started with mdk-7.1 or rh-7.0 so... really don't know Claudio

[Cooker] klyx... what is it for?!? (in 7.20)

2000-11-03 Thread Claudio
Hello I was wondering what is now Klyx useful for... it was a wonderful latex-scientific editor, in all other Mandrake's releases but now it only opens the interface, and even don't let me use the keyboard. With the mouse, just that horrible "?" icons that are becoming my nightmare...

Re: [Cooker] Dependency problem under 7.2

2000-11-03 Thread admin
> So you would have everybody install Samba whether they're connected to a > WinDoze machine or not??? > > -- > > Thomas M. Beaudry - k8la/ys1ztm > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The large print giveth and the small print taketh away. You badly understood me, at the time of the procedure of installation o

[Cooker] Numlock in 7.20 still won't work!

2000-11-03 Thread Claudio
Hi all... As in the subject, numlock does NOT start even if I put it in /etc/rc.d/rcX.d and I got a "failed" in shutdown sequence... Claudio