Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 10:20 PM, David Walser wrote: [...] You're quite anal about your opinions, no? Are you trying to imply that a standard X cut-n-paste works better in KDE than GNOME? Funny... I highlight and middle click in GNOME also. That makes 3 people not paying attention

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.12mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Laurent, * Tue Oct 29 2002 Laurent MONTEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3.1-0.beta2.12mdk - Fix buildrequires reported by "Stefan van der Eijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not quite... Some of the BuildRequires I put on the list are still missing: http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/alpha/problem/kdelibs-

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Spencer wrote: On October 29, 2002 09:05 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 04:57 PM, David Walser wrote: [...] GNOME uses double-click by default, and I don't have a problem with doing things that way. "A lot" of keyboard crap? Huh? You yourself admit that doing

[Cooker] Long term usage problems

2002-10-29 Thread James Sparenberg
All, I've come across a few small problems with 9.0 based on long term usage and multiple installs. 1. On all installs if you chose 1024 x 768 resolution X is incapable of redrawing the screen in kde if you chose to use multiple backgrounds ( In my case 1 image per screen 4 screens) This ha

[Cooker] HP Deskjet 820cse broken on mdk 9.0

2002-10-29 Thread Brent Hasty
I have a HP Deskjet 820cse, and the driver seems to be broken on mdk 9.0, running a smp kernel. The printer test page when using drakconf and cups to set it up, loads halfway into the machine where the print head alignes with the top of the paper then it just sits there the light blinking (mean

Re: [Cooker] GDM Sessions

2002-10-29 Thread Nathan A. Smith
On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 08:06, Frederic Crozat wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:56:29 +, Nathan A. Smith wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I wanted to find out how to add a Session to the GDM list. I have added > > E17 (from source) and then created a file under /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions. The > > file is th

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 04:57 PM, David > Walser wrote: > > [...] > >> GNOME uses double-click by default, and I don't > have > >> a problem with > >> doing things that way. "A lot" of keyboard crap? > >> Huh? You yourself admit > >> that

Re: [Cooker] braille display driver

2002-10-29 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: | Florent BERANGER wrote: | |> Is anyone can do an RPM for Mdk of brltty (http://dave.mielke.cc/brltty/)braille display driver ? I've tried without success and it's important to an Open system to offer access to blink persons ! |> For

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Spencer
On October 29, 2002 09:05 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 04:57 PM, David Walser wrote: > > [...] > > >> GNOME uses double-click by default, and I don't have > >> a problem with > >> doing things that way. "A lot" of keyboard crap? > >> Huh? You yourself admit > >> that

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue Oct 29 15:57 -0800, David Walser wrote: > > Thank you for the second reminder that Gnome > sucks. > > Keyboard crap for copy/paste == Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V, in > > Linux you just highlight and middle click. And > yes > > there's one more button press to

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 04:57 PM, David Walser wrote: [...] GNOME uses double-click by default, and I don't have a problem with doing things that way. "A lot" of keyboard crap? Huh? You yourself admit that doing a multiple select with a double-click model involves one *fewer* keyboard p

re[Cooker] Probs installing 9.0 on an old pentium machine

2002-10-29 Thread J. Greenlees
I just downloaded 9.0 (again) and successfully installed on pentium-mmx 200mhz system. the problems that I had just before release have been fixed. (isn't it nice to hear something nice? ;) )

Re: [Cooker] braille display driver

2002-10-29 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: | Florent BERANGER wrote: | |> Is anyone can do an RPM for Mdk of brltty (http://dave.mielke.cc/brltty/)braille display driver ? I've tried without success and it's important to an Open system to offer access to blink persons ! |> For info, Suse have it. Fl

Re: [Cooker] compiling mozilla?

2002-10-29 Thread Dave Seff
Install the libIDL2_0-devel package. -Dave On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 19:53, Adam Williamson wrote: > Has anyone succeeded in compiling a stock Mozilla on current Cooker? I > wanted to try Galeon 1.3.0, so I got Mozilla 1.2b, applied the GTK2 > patch from the Galeon archive (as recommended by their

[Cooker] Gnome VS My Mouse

2002-10-29 Thread Hola from Lauber
I hadn't noticed this until last night: when you switch to a text console and then back to gnome, the acceleration and sensitivity of the mouse is reset to the default values, and they can't seem to be recovered without a system reboot. It's not a serious problem, but it does make using my to

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
J.A. Magallón wrote: On 2002.10.30 Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: someone mentioned something about this should be done from drakfirsttime and I totally agree, and I actually like the idea of bluecurve(I really have'nt checked it out yet), but at the same time this should be an option in drakfir

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread J.A. Magallón
On 2002.10.30 Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > someone mentioned something about this should be done from drakfirsttime > and I totally agree, and I actually like the idea of bluecurve(I really > have'nt checked it out yet), but at the same time this should be an > option in drakfirsttime, this way

Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken

2002-10-29 Thread Gary Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 29 October 2002 01:59 pm, Juan Quintela wrote: > > "mcleod," == Mcleod, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > mcleod,> I am using the stock standard Mandrake 9.0 kernel - I have lost > XMMS sound mcleod,> (could be unrelated though) - are

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
someone mentioned something about this should be done from drakfirsttime and I totally agree, and I actually like the idea of bluecurve(I really have'nt checked it out yet), but at the same time this should be an option in drakfirsttime, this way we would not have this discussion and at the sam

Re: [Cooker] Kmix crashes

2002-10-29 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
For what it's worth, kmix runs for me. Of course it has 60 tabs for the exact same mixer, and none of them actually change any volume levels... but it runs. ;-) Lonnie Borntreger On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 19:02, Wesley J Landaker wrote: > On Tuesday 29 October 2002 04:13 pm, SpamKill wrote: > > FYI:

[Cooker] drakxconf bug ??

2002-10-29 Thread Mohammed Sameer
Hi all was wondering about drakxconf, when i fire drakxconf and choose "Add new users" or "boot configuration" it works fine however choosing "Auto install" makes the program exits choosing any option from the remaining always opens the one above it! i.e: "internet and networking" opens "display co

Re: [Cooker] braille display driver

2002-10-29 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Florent BERANGER wrote: Is anyone can do an RPM for Mdk of brltty (http://dave.mielke.cc/brltty/) braille display driver ? I've tried without success and it's important to an Open system to offer access to blink persons ! For info, Suse have it. Florent I tried doing a

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Elliott Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this isn't that related, but here's (yet another) > peice of totally > undocumented coolness related to mozilla/konqueror. > instead of all that crap, > just highlight the url and middle click it into the > middle of the browser > window and KAZAM,

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 23:57, David Walser wrote: > > > > GNOME uses double-click by default, and I don't > have > > > a problem with > > > doing things that way. "A lot" of keyboard crap? > > > Huh? You yourself admit > > > that doing a multiple sel

Re: [Cooker] Kmix crashes

2002-10-29 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 04:13 pm, SpamKill wrote: > FYI: > > KMix crashes every time it is run. > > Below is the Backtrace: > > 0x41143739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 > #0 0x41143739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 > #1 0x411c0340 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 > #2

[Cooker] compiling mozilla?

2002-10-29 Thread Adam Williamson
Has anyone succeeded in compiling a stock Mozilla on current Cooker? I wanted to try Galeon 1.3.0, so I got Mozilla 1.2b, applied the GTK2 patch from the Galeon archive (as recommended by their INSTALL file) and tried to compile Moz (using the recommended configure options) and it quit out quite ea

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 23:57, David Walser wrote: > > GNOME uses double-click by default, and I don't have > > a problem with > > doing things that way. "A lot" of keyboard crap? > > Huh? You yourself admit > > that doing a multiple select with a double-click > > model involves one > > *fewer* keyb

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Tue Oct 29 15:57 -0800, David Walser wrote: > Thank you for the second reminder that Gnome sucks. > Keyboard crap for copy/paste == Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V, in > Linux you just highlight and middle click. And yes > there's one more button press to initiate the > selection process with single-click, that

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Elliott Martin
> for example: > i highlight a http-address in an e-mail.. now i switch > to mozilla/konqueror/whatever and want to paste the link. > but first i have to clear the old address, so i have to > click at the end of the old address and clear the whole line > with backspace... of course i could highligh

Re: [Cooker] Bug in rescue disc (cdrom) with vi

2002-10-29 Thread Han Boetes
Pbt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I've a bug when i launch the rescue mode booting from cdrom (mdk9.0). > I want to use "vi" in order to modify config. files but when i launch > it, i can't use array keys. If i use them, i can't do nothing else > because keys are not well typed after. > > I h

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 12:25:18PM -0800, David Walser wrote: > If it's not a big deal why would Mandrake go to the > work of changing what the KDE Project picked as the default?? KDE defaults aren't written in blood. Mandrake should alter KDE defaults to whatever their customer base prefers. If

[Cooker] Bug in rescue disc (cdrom) with vi

2002-10-29 Thread Pbt
I've a bug when i launch the rescue mode booting from cdrom (mdk9.0). I want to use "vi" in order to modify config. files but when i launch it, i can't use array keys. If i use them, i can't do nothing else because keys are not well typed after. I have to use emacs to do my modifs (i'm a vi user a

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread gabor
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 00:57, David Walser wrote: > > No, you're in KDE. > > > > GNOME uses double-click by default, and I don't have > > a problem with > > doing things that way. "A lot" of keyboard crap? > > Huh? You yourself admit > > that doing a multiple select with a double-click > > model in

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 21:30, David Walser wrote: > > > windows, I normally click, > > > and then hit shift or contol, and then continue > > > selecting. This doesn't > > > work in KDE in single-click. > > > > In Windows you normally have to do a lot

Re: [Cooker] Background in KDE on Cooker from 10/29

2002-10-29 Thread s
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 01:57 pm, Serge Pluess wrote: > Hi > > just installed a fresh cooker from 10/29 and tried to change the > background for KDE. > So I tried to manually change the line in: > /home/user/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc > under [Desktop0] > WallpaperList=. Mine works if I

[Cooker] 71 modules :)

2002-10-29 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi. I just got the mod_vdbh module to compile, so now we have "apache2-mod_vdbh-2.0.43_1.0.1-1mdk" in cooker too :) It may be so that "apache2-mod_vdbh-2.0.43_1.0.1-1mdk" will obsolete "apache2-mod_v2h-2.0.43_2.0-2mdk", but I'm not really sure yet. More info on this will follow soon. Chears.

Re: [Cooker] wine problem

2002-10-29 Thread Florent BERANGER
Le Mardi 29 Octobre 2002 23:22, Pierre a écrit : > man wine.conf no, it must works out of the box. For me, I have resolved the problem by editing the config file but it must be fixed for everyone. > > On 2002.10.29 19:19 Florent BERANGER wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a problem wit

Re: [Cooker] wine problem

2002-10-29 Thread rcc
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:12:54 +0100 Danny Tholen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 29 October 2002 19:19, Florent BERANGER wrote: > > directory /mnt/cdrom; starting in windows directory. > > /usr/bin/wine.bin: cannot find 'Setup.exe' > > [cosmicflo@cosmic cosmicflo]$ > > > > Florent > > eh

Re: [Cooker] Probs installing 9.0 on an old pentium machine

2002-10-29 Thread J. Greenlees
Oden Eriksson wrote: tisdagen den 29 oktober 2002 18.26 skrev Kimmo Hovi: [snip] Is there a workaround for this, or do I just simply lose? (And go back to The Other rpm system) Try install on the hard drive mounted on another machine, and then switch back? it does seem to actually only a

RE: [Cooker] RE: kernel-2.4.19-17 is definitely broken

2002-10-29 Thread Mcleod, Ian
Why isn't it enabled by default of have an option on installation? At least it is easy to install just by installing the prism2-utils package (and then it is enabled?) > -Original Message- > From: Adam Williamson [mailto:aw280@;cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:34 AM > To:

Re: [Cooker] Kdevelop problem

2002-10-29 Thread Mario Vazquez
Yep, you caught me, I force the install since that many KDE sources I tried required autoconf 2.5x and automake 1.5. Some of them are: SIM KBEAR Quanta KMess Kopete And have the idea that newer is better! Maybe I'm wrong. From: Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

RE: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definitely broken

2002-10-29 Thread Mcleod, Ian
sorry my mistake - you people are referring to unstable packages - anything released for a stable Mandrake release should be 'stable' too.. > -Original Message- > From: Adam Williamson [mailto:aw280@;cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:

Re: [Cooker] wine problem

2002-10-29 Thread Pierre
man wine.conf On 2002.10.29 19:19 Florent BERANGER wrote: Hello, I have a problem with wine "out of the box" : [cosmicflo@cosmic cosmicflo]$ wine /mnt/cdrom/Setup.exe Warning: could not find wine config [Drive x] entry for current working directory /mnt/cdrom; starting in windows directory. /u

[Cooker] Kmix crashes

2002-10-29 Thread SpamKill
FYI: KMix crashes every time it is run. Below is the Backtrace: 0x41143739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #0 0x41143739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x411c0340 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #2 0x40f54a73 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x406c6

Re: [Cooker] Re: kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken

2002-10-29 Thread Danny Tholen
Juan, when making a preempt kernel for mandrakeclub I think I noticed some errors in the kernel spec and tried to correct them: - fixed a nesting case in the spec which would not work on 8.2 boxes - fixed a gcc 2.96 (also on 8.2 boxes) compile error in an atm driver - fixed a place were a mv error

Re: [Cooker] wine problem

2002-10-29 Thread Danny Tholen
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 19:19, Florent BERANGER wrote: > directory /mnt/cdrom; starting in windows directory. > /usr/bin/wine.bin: cannot find 'Setup.exe' > [cosmicflo@cosmic cosmicflo]$ > > Florent eh..well...I think I made a mistake in the autoconfig script so it forgets to add /mnt/cdrom

Re: [Cooker] RE: kernel-2.4.19-17 is definitely broken

2002-10-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 22:51, Mcleod, Ian wrote: > I have heard that the prism2-utils package installs and sets to run the > wlan-ng driver for PRISM2 cards.. The wlan_cs driver is obsolete? No. The wlan-ng drivers are already in stock Mandrake kernels. The prism2-utils package includes some basic

RE: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definitely broken

2002-10-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 22:49, Mcleod, Ian wrote: > so what is the 'official' status of what kernel we should be using for > Mandrake 9.0? I normally just install the latest RPM kernel build from the > Mandrake mirrors and it works fine... Err...for 9.0 you should use the 9.0 kernel. This mailing l

[Cooker] Re: kernel 17mdk NVidia

2002-10-29 Thread Quel Qun
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 13:14, Juan Quintela wrote: > > "quel" == Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > quel> --- Original Message --- > quel> From: rcc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > quel> To: Cooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > quel> Subject: [Cooker] kernel 17mdk NVidia > > >> > >> ... > quel> It look

[Cooker] RE: kernel-2.4.19-17 is definitely broken

2002-10-29 Thread Mcleod, Ian
I have heard that the prism2-utils package installs and sets to run the wlan-ng driver for PRISM2 cards.. The wlan_cs driver is obsolete? > -Original Message- > From: Juan Quintela [mailto:quintela@;mandrakesoft.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:29 AM > To: Mcleod, Ian > Cc: 'Gar

RE: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definitely broken

2002-10-29 Thread Mcleod, Ian
so what is the 'official' status of what kernel we should be using for Mandrake 9.0? I normally just install the latest RPM kernel build from the Mandrake mirrors and it works fine... > -Original Message- > From: Adam Williamson [mailto:aw280@;cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 200

[Cooker] interesting perl libraries

2002-10-29 Thread Florent BERANGER
http://linux.dd.com.au/quest/os-perl/ Sys::Hostname::Long - Long hostname. OS::Detect - Operating System Detection - and details Device::ParallelPort - Low level and some high level parallel port drivers Device::SerialPort2 - auto detect serial port from Windows to Unix

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 21:30, David Walser wrote: > > windows, I normally click, > > and then hit shift or contol, and then continue > > selecting. This doesn't > > work in KDE in single-click. > > In Windows you normally have to do a lot of keyboard > crap just to copy and paste. You're in Linux.

Re: [Cooker] Kdevelop problem

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 11:10, Mario Vazquez wrote: > > When creating a simple C project from KDevelop > Project --> New... I got > > this error: > > > > > > configure.in:101: error: m4_popdef: undefined > macro: AC_Dest > > autoconf/status.m4:844: AC_CON

Re: [Cooker] Kdevelop problem

2002-10-29 Thread Quel Qun
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 11:10, Mario Vazquez wrote: > When creating a simple C project from KDevelop Project --> New... I got > this error: > > > configure.in:101: error: m4_popdef: undefined macro: AC_Dest > autoconf/status.m4:844: AC_CONFIG_FILES is expanded from... > configure.in:101: the top

Re: [Cooker] MDK 8.2, 1024 MB RAM

2002-10-29 Thread andre
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 21:35, Peter Magnusson wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Bryan Whitehead wrote: > > Actaully it's more than that. A machine with 2GB of ram only sees this > > without highmem: > > total used free sharedbuffers cached > > Mem:904940

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, David Walser wrote: > > > --- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, David Walser wrote: > > > > > > Just the same as *one* method in windows. In > > > > *the* method. You can initiate it two ways (see

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, David Walser wrote: > --- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, David Walser wrote: > > > > Just the same as *one* method in windows. In > > *the* method. You can initiate it two ways (see > bottom) > > > windows, I normally click, > > and then hit

Re: [Cooker] KDEHOME in startkde

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
Here's a patch for the newest kdebase package. Laurent, *please* apply. --- David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, here's the patch (attached). *please* apply __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ --

Re: [Cooker] lirc 0.6.6 & lirc_serial module !

2002-10-29 Thread Maxim Heijndijk
* Stardate: 2002-10-29 19:07 * Incoming subspace signal from "Florent BERANGER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" : > Hello, > > when can we have lirc 0.6.6 (www.lirc.org) and lirc_serial fix (if it's not > already done) ? > > Thanks, > Florent I have uploaded some fixes to incoming: %ch

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, David Walser wrote: > > > --- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ask a new user to do a multiple-file copy and > paste > > > in detailed view, then > > > come back to me ... > > > > I must be missing something. Ctrl and

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, David Walser wrote: > --- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ask a new user to do a multiple-file copy and paste > > in detailed view, then > > come back to me ... > > I must be missing something. Ctrl and Shift work, > just the same as in Windows. > Just the same a

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ask a new user to do a multiple-file copy and paste > in detailed view, then > come back to me ... I must be missing something. Ctrl and Shift work, just the same as in Windows. __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJob

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Steffen Barszus wrote: > > > Do you think someone is going to base Linux on whether it has > > > double-click on by default or not? I sure hope this isn't the case. > > > > No, they will base it on total usability. Intuitive use (including doing > > what they expect) is a big

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, David Walluck wrote: > Buchan Milne wrote: > > > The single-click doesn't expand trees is a seperate issue (bug, IMHO, and > > I will report it as such in bugzilla nezt time I have a chance ...). It > > doesn't change the fact that some things are near impossible to do with >

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walluck
Buchan Milne wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Ben Reser wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:17:50PM +, Adam Williamson wrote: Windows uses the slightly ugly hack of the little plus signs on tree views. To open a tree view level, you either double click the entry, or single-click the tiny plus si

Re: [Cooker] openldap runs slurpd as root

2002-10-29 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Todd Lyons wrote: > Buchan Milne wrote on Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:44:41PM +0200 : > > > > > >>We have just started playing with LDAP replication, and I noticed that > > >>our LDAP server (8.2) is running all the slurpd's as root. > > Weird. > > Anyway, I commented out the old:

Re: [Cooker] Background in KDE on Cooker from 10/29

2002-10-29 Thread Blindauer Emmanuel
This is a kde 3.1 beta2 bug, and is already reported in bugs.kde.org. So just to wait for RC1 package (Laurent ?) or final version for 3.1 (RC2 will be ready next monday) Emmanuel Le Mardi 29 Octobre 2002 20:57, Serge Pluess a écrit : > Hi > > just installed a fresh cooker from 10/29 and tried

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walluck
Buchan Milne wrote: The single-click doesn't expand trees is a seperate issue (bug, IMHO, and I will report it as such in bugzilla nezt time I have a chance ...). It doesn't change the fact that some things are near impossible to do with single-click the first time, and doing them a second time m

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Steffen Barszus
> > And of course it angers me that Mandrake would prefer to attract some > > phantom Windows users, than to keep th Linux user's it has happy. Where > > are all these Windows user's who said the only reason they weren't using > > Mandrake is because it (supposedly) doesn't have double-click? > ag

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Ben Reser wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:17:50PM +, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Windows uses the slightly ugly hack of the little plus signs on tree > > views. To open a tree view level, you either double click the entry, or > > single-click the tiny plus sign on it. >

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walluck
Ben Reser wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:17:50PM +, Adam Williamson wrote: Windows uses the slightly ugly hack of the little plus signs on tree views. To open a tree view level, you either double click the entry, or single-click the tiny plus sign on it. As does KDE in double click mod

[Cooker] Re: kernel 17mdk NVidia

2002-10-29 Thread Juan Quintela
> "quel" == Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: quel> --- Original Message --- quel> From: rcc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quel> To: Cooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quel> Subject: [Cooker] kernel 17mdk NVidia >> >> >> the driver builds but when first used the whole machine crashes >> >> and it crashes

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 20:31, Ben Reser wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:17:50PM +, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Windows uses the slightly ugly hack of the little plus signs on tree > > views. To open a tree view level, you either double click the entry, or > > single-click the tiny plus sign o

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, David Walluck wrote: > Ben Reser wrote: > > > Well my experience is from seing lots of people ask me how to change it. > > I don't think there is an objective answer to which one is better. It's > > a matter of personal preference. Which one is the default should > > corresp

Re: [Cooker] openldap runs slurpd as root

2002-10-29 Thread Todd Lyons
Buchan Milne wrote on Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:44:41PM +0200 : > > > >>We have just started playing with LDAP replication, and I noticed that > >>our LDAP server (8.2) is running all the slurpd's as root. > Weird. > Anyway, I commented out the old: > #daemon ${slurpd} > and have now:

Re: [Cooker] MDK 8.2, 1024 MB RAM

2002-10-29 Thread Peter Magnusson
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Bryan Whitehead wrote: > Actaully it's more than that. A machine with 2GB of ram only sees this > without highmem: > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem:904940 185524 719416 0 84 107520 > -/+ buff

Re: [Cooker] MDK 8.2, 1024 MB RAM

2002-10-29 Thread Peter Magnusson
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > smp and highmem, and highmem are still a little buggy, if you look at Isnt highmem the only choice if i want to use 1024 MB RAM? I think it would be great if MDK could do a highmem kernel also, not just SMP + HIGHMEM kernel. > btw. do you really n

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:17:50PM +, Adam Williamson wrote: > Windows uses the slightly ugly hack of the little plus signs on tree > views. To open a tree view level, you either double click the entry, or > single-click the tiny plus sign on it. As does KDE in double click mode. -- Ben Rese

Re: [Cooker] Suggestion: mdk-gpg-keys-1.0-1mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 11:02 AM, Ben Reser wrote: How about putting your signing keys into a package that adds them to root's pubring? However this does bring up an interesting idea. Having urpmi/rpmdrake know where to find the GPG keys for various sources. I would propose that a f

Re: [Cooker] Re: Mdk 9.0 Recompiling Kernel for Athlon

2002-10-29 Thread andre
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 20:14, Juan Quintela wrote: > > - As somebody requested me, know there is a README.Mandrake (thanks > greg) that explains that you need the make mrproper _always_. > (Yes I know that nobody reads READMES, including myself :( It is not that they read it but that you c

Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken

2002-10-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 20:08, Mario Vazquez wrote: > > > Mine is a Dell Latitude CPi, and double check and it's not working when > using kernel 2.4.19-17 First, define "not working". The difference between -16mdk and -17mdk is that -17mdk uses ACPI by default. There could be several reasons for

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 20:07, Ben Reser wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 02:37:59PM -0500, David Walluck wrote: > > In my previous email I pointed out some serious usability problems with > > double-click that need to (should) be fixed before enabling double-click > > in KDE. Double-clicking in a

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walser
--- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to recall the rationale for IE being single > click for tree views > was that they were trying to make the web-browser > more consistent, so > since you had to click once on URLs they changed the > tree-view. I agree with that. > Mandrake has yet

Re: [Cooker] MDK 8.2, 1024 MB RAM

2002-10-29 Thread Peter Magnusson
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > No, he wants all machines (including my P133/32MB box which just runs a > firewall) to have the overhead of highmem, just so that weird issues ( I Fine, so install both kernels at install if the installer sees more than 1024 MB RAM. It will be more and m

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Jason Straight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Perhaps the KDE team already decided what the default is and the default should be the default, not the default changed to something else. On Tuesday 29 October 2002 14:21, Ben Reser wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 10:57:21AM -0800, David Walser wro

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Florent BERANGER
for info, rc1 is out...

Re: [Cooker] Probs installing 9.0 on an old pentium machine

2002-10-29 Thread Oden Eriksson
tisdagen den 29 oktober 2002 18.26 skrev Kimmo Hovi: [snip] > Is there a workaround for this, or do I just simply lose? (And go back to > The Other rpm system) Try install on the hard drive mounted on another machine, and then switch back? -- Regards // Oden Eriksson - Deserve-IT Networks htt

Re: [Cooker] MDK 8.2, 1024 MB RAM

2002-10-29 Thread Peter Magnusson
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, andre wrote: > On Tuesday 22 October 2002 16:18, Peter Magnusson wrote: > > I have at least 3 boxes that have 1024 MB. I think highmem should be > > compiled in, in the _default_ MDK kernel. > highmem is slower than standard so i am not for it. Besides there are other How muc

Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken

2002-10-29 Thread Mario Vazquez
Mine is a Dell Latitude CPi, and double check and it's not working when using kernel 2.4.19-17 From: Joan Tur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:03:31 +0100 -BEGIN PG

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 02:37:59PM -0500, David Walluck wrote: > In my previous email I pointed out some serious usability problems with > double-click that need to (should) be fixed before enabling double-click > in KDE. Double-clicking in a tree is much more annoying to me than > single-clicki

[Cooker] kacpi-0.6.2-1mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo! I've found and installed it, but if I run (as user) it it uses 100% cpu and starts eating memory and swap. Nothing appears in the kde's kicker (I'm using mdk9)... It shows the following when run from a console: - - [quini@quinipt us

Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19-17 is definately broken

2002-10-29 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dimarts 29 Octubre 2002 19:48, en Mario Vazquez va escriure: > With this kernel, the Laptop Power Management is not available. > It works fine with kernel-2.4.19-16 Mine is working fine with 2.4.19-17mdk (HP XT1000) - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Mario Vazquez
You are right, a poll would be nice. No matter which one Mandrake will choose at the end, it must be (1) the one the most users want, and (2) apply the same to gnome to have a little uniformity between desktops. From: Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PRO

[Cooker] Background in KDE on Cooker from 10/29

2002-10-29 Thread Serge Pluess
Hi just installed a fresh cooker from 10/29 and tried to change the background for KDE. I right mouse click on the desktop, click on Configure Desktop and click on Background. Then under Images I see the default entry: /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/default.png If I add an or multiple image they sho

[Cooker] braille display driver

2002-10-29 Thread Florent BERANGER
Is anyone can do an RPM for Mdk of brltty (http://dave.mielke.cc/brltty/) braille display driver ? I've tried without success and it's important to an Open system to offer access to blink persons ! For info, Suse have it. Florent

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread David Walluck
Ben Reser wrote: Well my experience is from seing lots of people ask me how to change it. I don't think there is an objective answer to which one is better. It's a matter of personal preference. Which one is the default should correspond with the majority of the users. Perhaps we need a club p

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 10:57:21AM -0800, David Walser wrote: > Well, that's certainly true. So let's abstract it > from any of our users personally. I have this to say. > > Single click is superior because: > less work, RSI, more consistency, more uniformity, > less mistakes, more accesssibilit

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 10:48:49AM -0800, Seth Zirin wrote: > This type of constant back and forth nonsense is best handled off-list > via private email. Both of you guys always have lots to say about > everything. Please use point-to-point communication rather than > broadcast unless you're cont

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-0.beta2.11mdk

2002-10-29 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Tue Oct 29 10:14 -0800, David Walser wrote: > --- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 04:11:57AM -0800, David > > Walser wrote: > > > ugh, why on Earth did you do that !!??? > > > > Probably because the vast majority of users expect a > > single click to > > select

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