Re: [Cooker] Aurora - the devil's in the details

2002-08-18 Thread Thierry Vignaud
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: david faure has begun to do some work in that area (in kde's cvs) but the road is long before having interactive::qt; and at that moment, we'll have to check either to use interactive::qt or interactive::gtk :-) the real problem will be that

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - the devil's in the details

2002-08-17 Thread Leon Brooks
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:47, Chris Higgins wrote: Mandrake Linux is what I use on my desktop, I put redhat or debian on servers. I'm considering dropping Mandrake for my desktop - and let me take a second to explain why. Having read your reasoning, the idea of replacing Mandrake with RedHat is

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-17 Thread Leon Brooks
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:01, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Fri Aug 16 10:59 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: (Interestingly, my spellchecker doesn't appear to pick up the word spellcheck or the word spellchecker. Crazy. It's happy with spell checker, though. That's what it calls itself. Hmm. I think i'm

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - the devil's in the details

2002-08-17 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having read your reasoning, the idea of replacing Mandrake with RedHat is loopy, on a server or elsewhere. RedHat offer you less choices than Mandrake. Mandrake and SuSe, for example, _prefer_ KDE and so write most of their tools to it. RedHat

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - the devil's in the details

2002-08-17 Thread David Walser
--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - we already have a code base providing abstraction in the config tools for implementation into Gtk, Newt and stdio (interactive) That's really cool. Have you all looked at Stormix's abstraction toolkit? I believe it supported ncurses and

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - the devil's in the details

2002-08-17 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Sat Aug 17 19:53 +0800, Leon Brooks wrote: Having read your reasoning, the idea of replacing Mandrake with RedHat is loopy, on a server or elsewhere. RedHat offer you less choices than Mandrake. Mandrake and SuSe, for example, _prefer_ KDE and so write most of their tools to it. RedHat

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - the devil's in the details

2002-08-17 Thread Thierry Vignaud
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - we already have a code base providing abstraction in the config tools for implementation into Gtk, Newt and stdio (interactive) That's really cool. Have you all looked at Stormix's abstraction toolkit? I believe it supported ncurses and gtk+, and

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - the devil's in the details

2002-08-17 Thread David Walser
--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: david faure has begun to do some work in that area (in kde's cvs) but the road is long before having interactive::qt; and at that moment, we'll have to check either to use interactive::qt or interactive::gtk :-) the real problem will be that

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Michel Fodje
I think you missed the point. If a user doesn't need to see something, don't show it to them. Everything should just work. The user should only see error messages if something fails. Too much explanations in Software of everything the system is doing implies the developer is drowned in the code

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Chris Higgins
On 16 Aug 2002 10:17:26 +0200 Michel Fodje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me end by quoting Joelonsoftware: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/uibook/chapters/fog64.html ... there is a much worse kind of arrogance in software design: the arrogant assumption that my software is so damn

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 09:47, Chris Higgins wrote: ... there is a much worse kind of arrogance in software design: the arrogant assumption that my software is so damn cool, people are just going to have to warp their brains around it. This kind of chutzpah is pretty common in the free

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Goetz Waschk
Am Freitag, 16. August 2002, 11:10:53 Uhr MET, schrieb Adam Williamson: GNOME, well, the GNOME team have taken a design decision that they consider Nautilus so central to the functioning of their desktop environment that it ought to be there. The line between essential core components and

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 09:17, Michel Fodje wrote: should feel natural. It doesn't mean that it should loose functionality, Does it involve good spelling? G Sorry, cheap shot I know. But this one *really* gets on my nerves. Lose and Loose are two different words in English. Lose is a verb

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Tom Whiting
One of the biggest problems hitting the Linux world is the failure of people to understand the different approach taken by Unix systems to solving problems. Aye, and different approaches are very good. The arguments about Aurora / OSS / ALSA are the same, people are trying to restrict

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Tom Whiting
I'd be a lot happier with just 'X windows' and pick whatever KDE apps you want, and whatever Gnome apps you want. Rather than at the moment having to install both KDE and Gnome and then choose a single environment rather than mix and match the ones that you want. Ack, that'd be a bad bad

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Chris Higgins
On 16 Aug 2002 12:12:41 +0200 Michel Fodje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 10:47, Chris Higgins wrote: Mandrake Linux is what I use on my desktop, I put redhat or debian on servers. I'm considering dropping Mandrake for my desktop - and let me take a second to explain why.

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Chris Higgins
On 16 Aug 2002 11:10:53 +0100 Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One huge snip later - which is fine, but this is different from your concept of Mandrake abandoning the (good) Linux design philosophy and going to the(bad) Windows one. You've picked my up wrong on this point, and

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 11:28, Chris Higgins wrote: I'd be a lot happier with just 'X windows' and pick whatever KDE apps you want, and whatever Gnome apps you want. Rather than at the moment having to install both KDE and Gnome and then choose a single environment rather than mix and match

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-16 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Fri Aug 16 10:59 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: (Interestingly, my spellchecker doesn't appear to pick up the word spellcheck or the word spellchecker. Crazy. It's happy with spell checker, though. That's what it calls itself. Hmm. I think i'm going to go take a shower.) Spellcheckers

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 05:11, Leon Brooks wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 03:01, Gary Greene wrote: Personally, I liked it much more than the new bootsplash system. Sure it had some issues (specifically when harddrake and kudzu would find changes in the hardware installed) but over all I found

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-15 Thread David Walser
--- Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 06:47, Igor Izyumin wrote: This is not windows, you don't reboot every 15 minutes, so I don't think it's important how it looks. True story: my wife saw the very screen in question last week (I added hardware to her box),

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Brad Felmey
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 18:02, Jakub Pas wrote: What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece... You are a sick, twisted individual. Seek psychiatric help immediately. It's gone in 9.x (and the crowd roars

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Igor Izyumin
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 10:22 pm, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Tue Aug 13 19:02 -0400, Jakub Pas wrote: What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece... You're the only one, then. Aurora annoyed me to no end when I

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread andre
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 17:01, Igor Izyumin wrote: On Tuesday 13 August 2002 10:22 pm, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Tue Aug 13 19:02 -0400, Jakub Pas wrote: What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece...

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Gary Greene
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 11:22 pm, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Tue Aug 13 19:02 -0400, Jakub Pas wrote: What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece... You're the only one, then. Aurora annoyed me to no end when I

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Jakub Pas
What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece... You are a sick, twisted individual. Seek psychiatric help immediately. It's gone in 9.x (and the crowd roars approval). Stressing job? Problems wih girlfirend? You

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Jakub Pas
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 16:00, Brad Felmey wrote: On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:01, Jakub Pas wrote: What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece... You are a sick, twisted individual. Seek psychiatric help

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Brad Felmey
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:01, Jakub Pas wrote: What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece... You are a sick, twisted individual. Seek psychiatric help immediately. It's gone in 9.x (and the crowd roars

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Igor Izyumin
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 02:01 pm, Gary Greene wrote: Personally, I liked it much more than the new bootsplash system. Sure it had some issues (specifically when harddrake and kudzu would find changes in the hardware installed) but over all I found it to be more asthetically pleasing than

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Gary Greene
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 06:47 pm, Igor Izyumin wrote: On Wednesday 14 August 2002 02:01 pm, Gary Greene wrote: Personally, I liked it much more than the new bootsplash system. Sure it had some issues (specifically when harddrake and kudzu would find changes in the hardware installed)

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Yura Gusev
Gary Greene said: I very much disagree with that. The one thing that Aurora did well was obfuscating the start scripts from the user. MS Windows splash screen is simple for a reason: the common joe user doesn't care that a certain subsystem is loading or not. all they care is that it

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Igor Izyumin
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 07:43 pm, Gary Greene wrote: I very much disagree with that. The one thing that Aurora did well was obfuscating the start scripts from the user. Trying to hide the system internals is dumb. Besides, Mandrake already boots in quiet mode. You don't see almost any

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 06:47, Igor Izyumin wrote: This is not windows, you don't reboot every 15 minutes, so I don't think it's important how it looks. True story: my wife saw the very screen in question last week (I added hardware to her box), and startled me by asking `what's that?' - she had

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-14 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 03:01, Gary Greene wrote: Personally, I liked it much more than the new bootsplash system. Sure it had some issues (specifically when harddrake and kudzu would find changes in the hardware installed) but over all I found it to be more asthetically pleasing than a console

[Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-13 Thread Jakub Pas
Hi guys. What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece... Kuba

Re: [Cooker] Aurora + Mandrake 9.0

2002-08-13 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Tue Aug 13 19:02 -0400, Jakub Pas wrote: What's happened to Aurora. I cant' remember it was included in MDK 8.2 but anyway I can't find it in 9.0. It was quite niece... You're the only one, then. Aurora annoyed me to no end when I was using 8.x. ;o) -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Cooker] Aurora /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions

2002-06-05 Thread Warly
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since we dont use Aurora anymore, can you remomove aurora scripts from functions file (~40%) so that all init scrits that require this file will parse it faster. Thus we will have faster login. I sent patch some time ago but it went to Warly (I

[Cooker] Aurora /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions

2002-06-04 Thread Yura Gusev
Since we dont use Aurora anymore, can you remomove aurora scripts from functions file (~40%) so that all init scrits that require this file will parse it faster. Thus we will have faster login.

RE: [Cooker] Aurora /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions

2002-06-04 Thread Borsenkow Andrej
Since we dont use Aurora anymore, can you remomove aurora scripts from functions file (~40%) so that all init scrits that require this file will parse it faster. Thus we will have faster login. I sent patch some time ago but it went to Warly (I presumed it has been maintaining initscripts

[Cooker] Aurora?

2002-03-04 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi, As I understand Aurora has been dropped for good, can someone clean up the aurora stuff from the initscripts now? -- Kindest regards // Oden Eriksson Deserve-IT Networks/HFE Systems

RE: [Cooker] Aurora?

2002-03-04 Thread Borsenkow Andrej
Hi, As I understand Aurora has been dropped for good, can someone clean up the aurora stuff from the initscripts now? Please, not before 82 is out Too dangerous

Re: [Cooker] Aurora?

2002-03-04 Thread Warly
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, As I understand Aurora has been dropped for good, can someone clean up the aurora stuff from the initscripts now? Please, not before 8.2 is out. Too dangerous. yes, too dangerous. -- Warly

Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2002-02-17 Thread Warly
andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is gone. For good?? Except if you want to maintain it... -- Warly

[Cooker] Aurora

2002-02-16 Thread andre
It is gone. For good??

Re: [Cooker] Aurora

2002-02-16 Thread Chuck Shirley
On Saturday 16 February 2002 22:13, andre wrote: It is gone. For good?? I'm too afraid to hope for so much. -Chuck

[Cooker] Aurora ISO-8859-2 text

2002-02-04 Thread Radek Vybiral
Hi cookers, my Aurora booting screen has wrong font for Czech messages. It must be ISO-8859-2 instead ISO-8859-1. Booting in non-fb mode is OK. R.V.

Re: [Cooker] Aurora ISO-8859-2 text

2002-02-04 Thread Onur Kucuk
RV Hi cookers, RV my Aurora booting screen has wrong font for Czech messages. It must be RV ISO-8859-2 instead ISO-8859-1. RV Booting in non-fb mode is OK. RV R.V. How can it be changed ? It fails for Turkish (iso8859-9) too :( Onur Kucuk

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-22 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Friday 21 Dec 2001 23:13, Bill Kenworthy wrote: How does one get rid of that ugly blue welcome graphic from the text boot screen whenever a high res boot mode is specified (vga=792)? I uninstalled Aurorer and its still there - missed something maybe? The Aurorer package is certainly

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-21 Thread Drew
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 21:12, Dave Fluri wrote: Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system messages, and is oft broken. So why not -CAN-IT- once and for all? I'm so happy to hear that I am not alone in my assessment. I've often wondered precisely WHY we have Aurora. What purpose

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-21 Thread Han
Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fridayen den 21 December 2001 04.28, Quel Qun wrote: On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 05:22, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system messages, and is oft broken. So why not -CAN-IT- once

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-21 Thread Bill Kenworthy
How does one get rid of that ugly blue welcome graphic from the text boot screen whenever a high res boot mode is specified (vga=792)? I uninstalled Aurorer and its still there - missed something maybe? The Aurorer package is certainly something that Mandrake could do without. BillK On Fri,

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-21 Thread Oden Eriksson
On Fridayen den 21 December 2001 21.14, Han wrote: Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fridayen den 21 December 2001 04.28, Quel Qun wrote: On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 05:22, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-21 Thread Han
Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fridayen den 21 December 2001 21.14, Han wrote: Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fridayen den 21 December 2001 04.28, Quel Qun wrote: On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 05:22, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aurora is

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-21 Thread Oden Eriksson
On Saturdayen den 22 December 2001 02.13, Han wrote: Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fridayen den 21 December 2001 21.14, Han wrote: Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fridayen den 21 December 2001 04.28, Quel Qun wrote: On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 05:22, Guillaume

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-21 Thread Oden Eriksson
On Fridayen den 21 December 2001 04.28, Quel Qun wrote: On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 05:22, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system messages, and is oft broken. So why not -CAN-IT- once and for all? For newbies it's

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-20 Thread Yves Duret
Ben V [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi I've got the following message at Aurora boot: Fatal server error Could not create log file in /tmp/.TX1-lock How can i fix that, because I can't turn off Aurora at boot : it's not in the menu of Control Panel. I download the last update of

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system messages, and is oft broken. So why not -CAN-IT- once and for all? For newbies it's good eye candy, and the shitload of startup messages are said to frighten them when displayed. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-20 Thread Charles
On Thursday 20 December 2001 08:22, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: For newbies it's good eye candy, and the shitload of startup messages are said to frighten them when displayed. I suppose you're right. Look at the boot screen that Brand-X gives on their latest offering: Their unmistakable logo

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-20 Thread Sergio Korlowsky
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 09:11 pm, you wrote: - On Wednesday 19 December 2001 13:22, Charles A Edwards wrote: - Uninstall aurora. - You do not need it. - - Indeed. - Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system messages, - and is oft broken. So why not -CAN-IT- once and for all? -

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-20 Thread Han
Yves Duret ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ben V [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got the following message at Aurora boot: Fatal server error Could not create log file in /tmp/.TX1-lock How can i fix that, because I can't turn off Aurora at boot : it's not in the menu of Control Panel. I

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-20 Thread Dave Fluri
Le mercredi 19 décembre, 2001, Chuck a écrit : Indeed. Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system messages, and is oft broken. So why not -CAN-IT- once and for all? I'm so happy to hear that I am not alone in my assessment. I've often wondered precisely WHY we have Aurora. What

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-20 Thread Quel Qun
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 05:22, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system messages, and is oft broken. So why not -CAN-IT- once and for all? For newbies it's good eye candy, and the shitload of startup messages are

[Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-19 Thread Ben V
Hi I've got the following message at Aurora boot: Fatal server error Could not create log file in /tmp/.TX1-lock How can i fix that, because I can't turn off Aurora at boot : it's not in the menu of Control Panel. I download the last update of initscript Mandrake 8.1

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-19 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:11:26 GMT+1 Ben V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've got the following message at Aurora boot: Fatal server error Could not create log file in /tmp/.TX1-lock How can i fix that, because I can't turn off Aurora at boot : it's not in the menu of Control Panel. I

Re: [Cooker] Aurora crash at boot

2001-12-19 Thread Charles
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 13:22, Charles A Edwards wrote: Uninstall aurora. You do not need it. Indeed. Aurora is unneeded, hides useful boot-time system messages, and is oft broken. So why not -CAN-IT- once and for all? -- *Chuck*

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - lets scrap it ! ;-)

2001-12-14 Thread Fabrice FACORAT
le ven 14-12-2001 à 00:21, George Mitchell a écrit : No it's Aurora the problem. It's incomplete and need more features So the plan then is to enable interactive capability in Aurora? that's it -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - Russell Hammond: If I die, tell Rolling

[Cooker] Aurora - lets scrap it ! ;-)

2001-12-13 Thread OS
Hello, I have mentioned before that Aurora is the wrong way around, but here is another example: initscripts now asks if you wish to scan the disks if the system is not shut down correctly (incidently, when I said NO to this the disks were still scanned !). However, because Aurora only

RE: [Cooker] Aurora - lets scrap it ! ;-)

2001-12-13 Thread Borsenkow Andrej
initscripts now asks if you wish to scan the disks if the system is not shut down correctly (incidently, when I said NO to this the disks were still scanned !). However, because Aurora only displays things AFTER the event this prompt sits there hidden until it times out and the scan is

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - lets scrap it ! ;-)

2001-12-13 Thread George Mitchell
OS wrote: Hello, I have mentioned before that Aurora is the wrong way around, but here is another example: initscripts now asks if you wish to scan the disks if the system is not shut down correctly (incidently, when I said NO to this the disks were still scanned !). However, because Aurora

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - lets scrap it ! ;-)

2001-12-13 Thread Fabrice FACORAT
le jeu 13-12-2001 à 17:07, George Mitchell a écrit : The problem in my mind is not with Aurora, but with initscripts. This in not a new problem. Aurora has been choking on kudzu for as long as Aurora has been around. The solution is for initscripts to be 'Aurora aware'. Initscripts

Re: [Cooker] Aurora - lets scrap it ! ;-)

2001-12-13 Thread George Mitchell
Fabrice FACORAT wrote: le jeu 13-12-2001 à 17:07, George Mitchell a écrit : The problem in my mind is not with Aurora, but with initscripts. This in not a new problem. Aurora has been choking on kudzu for as long as Aurora has been around. The solution is for initscripts to be 'Aurora

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-05 Thread Dominik Bittl
Pixel wrote: Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question was more Why is there something *written* on that screen at all?. I think we could put a stylized MandrakeSoft logo? And after all, that's quite stupid to write Welcome to Linux-Mandrake if you use lilo to boot

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-05 Thread Dominik Bittl
Frederic Bastok wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:12, François Pons wrote: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question was more Why is there something *written* on that screen at all?. I think we could put a stylized

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-05 Thread Dominik Bittl
François Pons wrote: Dominik Bittl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, but what is it in english (fpitoun,fbastok )?? Because cooker is in english :-) François. That's it ! *g* mfg dominik -- Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-05 Thread Grégoire Colbert
Dominik Bittl wrote: Frederic Bastok wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:12, François Pons wrote: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question was more Why is there something *written* on that screen at all?. I think we could put a stylized

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-05 Thread Grégoire Colbert
I repost... What about swapping the screens : - the internationalized welcome message goes to lilo screen - a Mandrakesoft logo goes into the kernel framebuffer picture (the one with the welcomes). Thus, you just say Welcome, yet in many languages, you don't say to Linux-Mandrake in lilo, and

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-05 Thread François Pons
Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question was more Why is there something *written* on that screen at all?. I think we could put a stylized MandrakeSoft logo? And after all, that's quite stupid to write Welcome to Linux-Mandrake if you use

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-05 Thread Frederic Bastok
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:12, François Pons wrote: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question was more Why is there something *written* on that screen at all?. I think we could put a stylized MandrakeSoft logo? And after all, that's

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-05 Thread François Pons
Dominik Bittl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, but what is it in english (fpitoun,fbastok )?? Because cooker is in english :-) François.

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-04 Thread Warly
Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 03 Sep 2001 17:35, andre wrote: Op 03 Sep 2001 22:59:44 +0200, Grégoire Colbert schreef: andre wrote: solved, then Aurora will be the first thing I will delete after upgrade to 8.1. ;) I see you are not the average cooker user.

RE: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-04 Thread Borsenkow Andrej
Unfortunately Egil has gone back to his studies and does not weems to take care anymore af Aurora, at least for the moment, so I am the unlucky guys who take it as maintainer. Good. However, I'll try to fix most of the annoying stuff, so if you could enumerate all the Bad Things

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-04 Thread Dominik Bittl
After deactivation of Aurora, the ugly Welcome-Bootup-Screen with all the different languages is still coming !! Or isn't that a part of Aurora ? mfg dominik Borsenkow Andrej wrote: Unfortunately Egil has gone back to his studies and does not weems to take care anymore af Aurora,

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-04 Thread Grégoire Colbert
Dominik Bittl wrote: After deactivation of Aurora, the ugly Welcome-Bootup-Screen with all the different languages is still coming !! It is not ugly : it is called internationalization. grin What is criticizable is the Welcome to Linux-Mandrake in lilo screen, which is untranslated. Sorry

RE: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-04 Thread Borsenkow Andrej
After deactivation of Aurora, the ugly Welcome-Bootup-Screen with all the different languages is still coming !! Or isn't that a part of Aurora ? It is not part of Aurora and it is not ugly. Add nologo to kernel boot string. -andrej

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-04 Thread Vox
During the bombing raid on Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:38:45 +0200, Grégoire Colbert was heard mumbling in fear: Dominik Bittl wrote: After deactivation of Aurora, the ugly Welcome-Bootup-Screen with all the different languages is still coming !! It is not ugly : it is called

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-04 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Tuesday 04 Sep 2001 02:56, Warly wrote: Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 03 Sep 2001 17:35, andre wrote: Op 03 Sep 2001 22:59:44 +0200, Grégoire Colbert schreef: andre wrote: solved, then Aurora will be the first thing I will delete after upgrade to 8.1. ;)

lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-04 Thread Grégoire Colbert
Vox wrote: During the bombing raid on Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:38:45 +0200, Grégoire Colbert was heard mumbling in fear: What is criticizable is the Welcome to Linux-Mandrake in lilo screen, which is untranslated. Sorry for english people out there, but why should it be spelled in english??

Re: lilo graphical screen (was Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug)

2001-09-04 Thread Pixel
Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question was more Why is there something *written* on that screen at all?. I think we could put a stylized MandrakeSoft logo? And after all, that's quite stupid to write Welcome to Linux-Mandrake if you use lilo to boot Windows... i agree.

[Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-03 Thread Grégoire Colbert
Hello, I experienced hardware problem with Mandrake 8.0, and when restarting Linux, after HardDrake appeared, Aurora printed something like it could not open terminal and garbage looking like ANSI codes in old MS-DOS for colours. To see if this bug is solved in Cooker, just unplug your

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-03 Thread andre
Hello, I experienced hardware problem with Mandrake 8.0, and when restarting Linux, after HardDrake appeared, Aurora printed something like it could not open terminal and garbage looking like ANSI codes in old MS-DOS for colours. To see if this bug is solved in Cooker, just unplug

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-03 Thread Grégoire Colbert
andre wrote: solved, then Aurora will be the first thing I will delete after upgrade to 8.1. ;) I see you are not the average cooker user. They don't delete it *after* an upgrade. I'm not running Cooker. :) I wrote this because chances are Aurora be installed by default in 8.1... Hence

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-03 Thread Fabrice FACORAT
Le Lundi 3 Septembre 2001 22:50, andre scribit : I see you are not the average cooker user. They don't delete it *after* an upgrade. true. they don't install it or deinstall it before (first reflexe with the install of kdebase-nsplugins). -- Copyleft Faber's prod. 2001

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-03 Thread andre
Op 03 Sep 2001 22:59:44 +0200, Grégoire Colbert schreef: andre wrote: solved, then Aurora will be the first thing I will delete after upgrade to 8.1. ;) I see you are not the average cooker user. They don't delete it *after* an upgrade. I'm not running Cooker. :) I wrote this

Re: [Cooker] Aurora bug

2001-09-03 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Monday 03 Sep 2001 17:35, andre wrote: Op 03 Sep 2001 22:59:44 +0200, Grégoire Colbert schreef: andre wrote: solved, then Aurora will be the first thing I will delete after upgrade to 8.1. ;) I see you are not the average cooker user. They don't delete it *after* an upgrade.

[Cooker] Aurora update - Monitor link trashed again

2001-08-31 Thread Andrej Borsenkow
Aurora #warning: /etc/aurora/Monitor created as /etc/aurora/Monitor.rpmnew # Aurora-Monitor-NewStyle-Categorizing-WsLib## [root@cooker gtk]# ll /etc/aurora total 8 -rw-r--r--

Re: [Cooker] Aurora update - Monitor link trashed again

2001-08-31 Thread David Walluck
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: One more example of maintained and useful package (sorry, could not resist). -andrej I have been very busy lately because I am without high speed Internet access and University has started again, but I also can't resist. This bug in Aurora has

Re: [Cooker] Aurora choice in install

2001-08-17 Thread Digital Wokan
Andrej, I'm one of those who doesn't like Aurora (hate it actually), but I do see it as having a place. It does put a nice friendly face on the boot routine of Linux. At least it's more informative than a Windows logo with a cycling color bar. If it's unmaintained, perhaps someone should pick

Re: [Cooker] Aurora choice in install

2001-08-17 Thread Borsenkow Andrej
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: I know that guys on Cooker really don't like Aurora (and me also) but you already have two ways of not using Aurora (unselecting during install, booting a non-fb kernel). The guys on Cooker like Aurora. The guys on Cooker do not like buggy software. And they

Re: [Cooker] Aurora is installed even if everything deselected

2001-08-13 Thread Pixel
Digital Wokan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's an alphabetical list? I've only seen that workstation/server/blah/someotherblah breakdown of RPMs. How do I choose my RPMs alphabetically during the install? click on the Toggle between flat and group sorted button (in individual package

Re: [Cooker] Aurora is installed even if everything deselected

2001-08-13 Thread Christian Bricart
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 02:04:27AM -0400, Tim wrote: Is it just me... or would it be easier for everyone if Mandrake could just no .. it's not just you :) have a check box along with the Boot Loader choices to let us choose Aurora or not? Personally I hate the thing and prefer my nice ugly

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