Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why don't change the installation routine to a knoppix version of Mandrake with a mandrake version of knx-hdinstall. You will have a rescue mode with plenty of room so you can use emacs instead of e3 to edit files while the number of cd's you have to burn to

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andre wrote: Why don't change the installation routine to a knoppix version of Mandrake with a mandrake version of knx-hdinstall. You will have a rescue mode with plenty of room so you can use emacs instead of e3 to edit files while the number of

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 11:51 schrieb Buchan Milne: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andre wrote: Why don't change the installation routine to a knoppix version of Mandrake with a mandrake version of knx-hdinstall. You will have a rescue mode with plenty of room so

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread mika . laitio
... -:) Mika Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01.07.2003 16:05 Please respond to cooker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Cottenceau

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steffen Barszus wrote: Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 11:51 schrieb Buchan Milne: Hmm I'm a bit confused. There were some people recently that thought loud about that. If the effort would be taken and the Mandrake Mini CD would be developed further,

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 13:33 schrieb Buchan Milne: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steffen Barszus wrote: Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 11:51 schrieb Buchan Milne: Hmm I'm a bit confused. There were some people recently that thought loud about that. If the effort would be

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Oden Eriksson
onsdagen den 2 juli 2003 13.33 skrev Buchan Milne: What is umigumi? It's from the OpenBrick folks, check: http://umigumi.org/ It's very nice, I was about to pack it but it never happened for some reason. Any takers? -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steffen Barszus wrote: Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 13:33 schrieb Buchan Milne: Hmm, today is the first time in about 2 weeks that I have been able to get to any berlios.de sites. Also, someone else said the project was dead ... Yep berlios is a

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Oden Eriksson
onsdagen den 2 juli 2003 15.20 skrev Buchan Milne: What is umigumi? http://www.umigumi.org/ If I would really understand what it is i could tell you, but it seems it could be related (?!?) Doesn't look related, seems like a tool to install a distro onto a flash (IDE or similar)

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 05:26, Vox wrote: I'll kill whoever takes loadkeys off the rescue disk...being a dvorak typist for 7 years means I have absolutely no clue where the qwerty keys are anymore...which would make the disk absolutely unusable for me :P Well, you know the name, so you

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-02 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 05:26, Vox wrote: Well, you know the name, so you know where the q, w, e, r, t and y keys are. Think what you can do with them! Especially if your username is twerqy and your password is rewtqy. :)

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread dams
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: måndagen den 30 juni 2003 22.12 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: måndagen den 30 juni 2003 17.57 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Do newbies often need to edit files when booted in rescue mode? And IMHO, anyone should

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you invoce it as /usr/bin/e3pi it behaves like nano, who in turns behaves and are based on pico. But e3vi makes me feel more at home ;-) It's damn small in size..., also please

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread dams
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you invoce it as /usr/bin/e3pi it behaves like nano, who in turns behaves and are based on pico. But e3vi makes me feel more at home ;-) It's damn small in size..., also please take a

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what do you think about such an idea, or maybe are some of this even working right now ? the rescue is not meant to be a small usable linux system, it's meant to rescue a non-bootable mandrake os. the doc says: -=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=-- The rescue system on this

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we won't add large utilities that don't fit the aim of the rescue (small ones as well, actually). Granted, but is it unreasonable to request an editor that most newbies would be able to use

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we won't add large utilities that don't fit the aim of the rescue (small ones as well, actually). Granted, but is it unreasonable to request an editor that most newbies would be able to use

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread andre
Why don't change the installation routine to a knoppix version of Mandrake with a mandrake version of knx-hdinstall. You will have a rescue mode with plenty of room so you can use emacs instead of e3 to edit files while the number of cd's you have to burn to install Mandrake stays the same

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread dams
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] The general rule of thumb is: If you can boot into the Linux system without using rescue mode or this CD, there is no real reason to use the rescue CD. -=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=---=-=-- we won't add large utilities that don't fit the aim of

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread Pixel
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: partimage: this came into my mind because I use Knoppix to image my partitions, which is very comfortable, and I thougt it was a good idea to have something similar in Mandrake, And it would be even better if you could choose to run partimage from

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3590 days Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we won't add large utilities that don't fit the aim of the rescue (small ones as well, actually). Then why do we have a newt nifty menu popping up when booting in rescue mode? Let's go back to diehard

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Guillaume Cottenceau : e3: ^k q e3em: ^x c e3ne: ^q e3pi: ^x e3vi: :q e3ws: ^k q Among those, ^q is fairly the easiest to guess, so I'd propose to link /usr/bin/edit to /usr/bin/e3ne, WDYT? You're forgotting the ideal choice for a beginner :-) e3ed: . -- If it wasn't for

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-07-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we won't add large utilities that don't fit the aim of the rescue (small ones as well, actually). Then why do we have a newt nifty menu popping up when booting in rescue mode? Let's go back to diehard shell (no bash), whithout loadkeys :) good idea! sorry I

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I had to use the rescue-mode of the Installation-CD lately, I had some ideas about a few nice features: 1. could midnight commander be included, it has a nice editor What's wrong with vi ;-). 2. would it not be nice

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
Viestissä Maanantai 30. Kesäkuuta 2003 13:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Since I had to use the rescue-mode of the Installation-CD lately, I had some ideas about a few nice features: 1. could midnight commander be included, it has a nice editor 2. would it not be nice to integrate the

Re: Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread lavaeolus
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Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 30 June 2003 06:04 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I had to use the rescue-mode of the Installation-CD lately, I had some ideas about a few nice features: 1. could midnight commander be included, it has a nice editor If you have midnight commandrer installed, you can probably run

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread dams
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] Including too many tools for no reason on the rescue image makes it too big, and then packages have to be left out of the distro. Instead of making boot CDs, you could rather learn vi, and be able to rescue any unix system without tools that may

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread lavaeolus
Ok as I have some answers now: first: mea culpa, but last night was to long, so sorry that I did NOT see chroot, which gives me nearly all the possibilities I missed, but I have used Knoppix for doing some system repairs lately, and liked the idea, whith the exception, that it is way to large

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok as I have some answers now: The thing with vi is: to know how to work with it, does not mean you have to like it. If you don't like it, you haven't worked with it enough ;-) (or you may be using vim-minimal when you

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread dams
[...] Do newbies often need to edit files when booted in rescue mode? And IMHO, anyone should take the time to learn vi if they are going to be in this position, and this is one reason why: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ which nano /usr/bin/nano [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ which vim-minimal

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndagen den 30 juni 2003 17.57 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Do newbies often need to edit files when booted in rescue mode? And IMHO, anyone should take the time to learn vi if they are going to be in this position, and this is one reason why: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rpm]$ which nano

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread dams
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: måndagen den 30 juni 2003 17.57 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Do newbies often need to edit files when booted in rescue mode? And IMHO, anyone should take the time to learn vi if they are going to be in this position, and this is one reason why:

Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for rescue-mode

2003-06-30 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndagen den 30 juni 2003 22.12 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: måndagen den 30 juni 2003 17.57 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Do newbies often need to edit files when booted in rescue mode? And IMHO, anyone should take the time to learn vi if they are