It would be nice if we can more prominently show libre-friendly systems
with coreboot. There have been some ideas proposed about how to do this,
for example this one by Carl-Daniel:
https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2010-October/060894.html
Now that our infrastructure is much better
This sounds like a good idea to me.
I think that it might be a good idea to present the two things as seperate
components. In my opinion it makes sense to leave the init framework as
'coreboot'. However the firmware glue framework should probably be called
something diffierent, like 'core
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> From: "Patrick Georgi"
> To: "Timothy Pearson"
> Cc: "ron minnich" , "David Hendricks"
> , "coreboot"
>
> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 3:26:45 AM
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Am Mo., 2. Sept. 2019 um 10:17 Uhr schrieb Timothy Pearson <
tpear...@raptorengineering.com>:
> this text needs to be completely rewritten to clearly show where the
> limits are on modern x86 platforms.
>
No, you want it rewritten to be able to better advertise Talos. This
project is not in the
Am Mo., 2. Sept. 2019 um 09:56 Uhr schrieb ron minnich :
> You need fewer adjectives, and simpler words.
>
Maybe we can get there with less bikeshedding by looking at concrete
proposals:
https://review.coreboot.org/c/homepage/+/35209 and
https://review.coreboot.org/c/homepage/+/35210 (and more
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> From: "ron minnich"
> To: "Timothy Pearson"
> Cc: "Patrick Georgi" , "David Hendricks"
> , "coreboot"
>
> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 2:56:21 AM
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> What about following proposal:
> coreboot is an extended firmware platform that delivers a lightning
> fast and secure boot experience on modern computers and embedded
> systems. As an Open Source project it aims to provide auditability and
> maximum control over technology; On some platforms
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> From: "Patrick Georgi"
> To: "Timothy Pearson"
> Cc: "David Hendricks" , "coreboot"
>
> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 1:06:10 AM
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> Am So.,
Am So., 1. Sept. 2019 um 23:55 Uhr schrieb Timothy Pearson <
tpear...@raptorengineering.com>:
> This is an interesting take on the situation. Can you point to even one
> instance in the past few years where this strategy has yielded less vendor
> proprietary firmware (in terms of percentage of
- Original Message -
> From: "Jonathan Zhang"
> To: "Timothy Pearson"
> Cc: "coreboot"
> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 12:06:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [coreboot] Web site revamp
> Hi,
>
> I believe we have consensus that the current wording as-is may be
> misleading to some audiences:
>>
Hi,
I believe we have consensus that the current wording as-is may be
misleading to some audiences:
> "coreboot is an extended firmware platform that delivers a lightning fast and
> secure boot experience on modern computers and embedded systems. As an Open
> Source project it provides
trick to
> make it so.
>
> ron
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 2:55 PM Timothy Pearson
> wrote:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Patrick Georgi"
> > > To: "Timothy Pearson"
> > > Cc: "David Hendricks&qu
ep 1, 2019 at 2:55 PM Timothy Pearson
wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Patrick Georgi"
> > To: "Timothy Pearson"
> > Cc: "David Hendricks" , "coreboot"
> >
> > Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:30:30 A
- Original Message -
> From: "Patrick Georgi"
> To: "Timothy Pearson"
> Cc: "David Hendricks" , "coreboot"
>
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:30:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [coreboot] Re: Web site revamp
> Am So.,
- Original Message -
> From: "ron minnich"
> To: "Patrick Georgi"
> Cc: "Matt B" , "Timothy Pearson"
> , "David Hendricks"
> , "coreboot"
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 2:49:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [cor
Just a note on oreboot: the name is taken, it means Rust, not C, and
you can see our talk about it next week. It works on SiFive HiFive-U.
We'd love to have help on real ARM chips.
We intend to be forceful about holding the line on "no development
from NDA data sheets", "no binary blobs", as well
Am So., 1. Sept. 2019 um 17:30 Uhr schrieb Matt B <
matthewwbradl...@gmail.com>:
> To take an extreme stance, could non-technical users one day be directed
> to coreboot distributions like Librecore or vendors like Purism/System76?
>
Maybe we need to make the visitor segmentation more visible,
Am So., 1. Sept. 2019 um 02:23 Uhr schrieb Timothy Pearson <
tpear...@raptorengineering.com>:
> Another bad analogy: if I start a project for "maximum control" of an
> airliner, but the reality of the situation is the best level of control I
> can ever attain is how far back my seat reclines,
>
> Where I take issue still is that we're nowhere near 100%. On modern
> platforms we're somewhere below 50% and oftentimes well below that. The
> wording is confusing and misleading as-is. ... What is to be gained by
> hiding the reality of the situation from non-technical users visiting the
>
- Original Message -
> From: "David Hendricks"
> To: "Timothy Pearson"
> Cc: "coreboot"
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 7:08:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [coreboot] Web site revamp
>> If people are not aware of the ME, PSP, AGESA, FSP, BinaryPI, and a host
>> of other proprietary
> If people are not aware of the ME, PSP, AGESA, FSP, BinaryPI, and a host
> of other proprietary components, they naturally take the statements above
> at face value and assume that installing coreboot on their machine (or
> paying for coreboot support for their system) allows them to replace the
Hello,
This seems to be a fairly accurate assessment of the situation, imo.
It's disappointing to see people shocked by inclusion of binary components
and left with a very negative impression. I've seen coreboot particularly
derided by people who first learn about libreboot from the FSF and
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