[Coworking] Re: Partnerships (was PariSoMa and Zipcar)

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Schinkel
On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Tara Hunt wrote: > Count me in! Alrighty then! I've added this page as a framework for collective negotiation: http://coworking.pbworks.com/Membership-Incentives Let the games begin! :) -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com -

Re: [Coworking] Leases and landlords

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Schinkel
I found someone willing to give me a building until we had met a target number of members. Of course we were not ready to expand so didn't take up his offer. You just have to find the right building owner; you might get "no" 100 times before you get 1 "yes." So while it's not the norm a good e

Re: [Coworking] Re: Partnerships (was PariSoMa and Zipcar)

2009-12-22 Thread Tara Hunt
Count me in! On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote: > I'm interested in the [collective negotiation] list. > > > Could we do it as simple as a page on the wiki where spaces can sign up to > be interested in collective negotiation (including a list of the types of > things they woul

Re: [Coworking] Re: Partnerships (was PariSoMa and Zipcar)

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Schinkel
> I'm interested in the [collective negotiation] list. Could we do it as simple as a page on the wiki where spaces can sign up to be interested in collective negotiation (including a list of the types of things they would interested in, if applicable) and then empower any space owner who wants

Re: [Coworking] Leases and landlords

2009-12-22 Thread Matthew Wettergreen
I saw this earlier and earmarked it to revisit, need to finish up holiday cards tonight but I'll explain our arrangement with our landlord tomorrow. Jerome Chang also has an interesting perspective on rent abatement from an earlier post that I'll link to when I circle back. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 a

Re: [Coworking] Re: Partnerships (was PariSoMa and Zipcar)

2009-12-22 Thread Jerome Chang
I'm interested in the [collective negotiation] list. Jerome __ BLANKSPACES "work wide open" www.blankspaces.com 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 323.330.9505 (office) On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Tara Hunt wrote: > Probably the best idea. I had st

Re: [Coworking] Leases and landlords

2009-12-22 Thread Tara Hunt
Also check with Matthew Wettergreen of Caroline Collective...they had a pretty decent early arrangement in ramping up. Tara On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Mike Pihlman wrote: > I have the best landlord in the world. > > Pure accident that I came here, but, I have gotten such a good deal from >

Re: [Coworking] Re: Partnerships (was PariSoMa and Zipcar)

2009-12-22 Thread Tara Hunt
Probably the best idea. I had started talking with national organizations like Zipcar and Freelancers Union, but got sidetracked by 1,000,001 things. We do have some stuff worked out with Freelancers Union (list your coworking space on their site), but Zipcar was tough because not all spaces (at th

[Coworking] Re: cowork...@bob bringing coworking back to Vancouver's inner-city

2009-12-22 Thread Muskie
We're open but still recruiting heavily, we have the holidays and the Olympics so March will be the real judge of our success, hopefully we will be cashflow positive by then. We've continued to invest in the space and consult with potential coworkers on what they'd like to see to make the deal mor

Re: [Coworking] Re: Partnerships (was PariSoMa and Zipcar)

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Schinkel
On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Tara Hunt wrote: > However, the most beneficial partnerships we've found is that startup tech > companies tend to want to share their software and gadgets at the space - > lots of startups bring by discount and freebie codes in exchange for us to > put their fliers/s

Re: [Coworking] Leases and landlords

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Pihlman
I have the best landlord in the world. Pure accident that I came here, but, I have gotten such a good deal from him wrt rent, he put ads in a local magazine for all of us in the building, he takes the time to come in and chat, offers encouragement, fixes the little things that go wrong that my

[Coworking] Leases and landlords

2009-12-22 Thread Tom S.
Hi everyone! Has anyone leased their space using a revenue-sharing concept with their landlord or is everyone on a standard term lease? It seems apparent that every coworking space needs some time to get to that break-even point, so instead of getting into too deep of a financial hole, we have th

Re: [Coworking] My thoughts on the private office vs public space issue

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Schinkel
I'm in the middle on this, and thanks for the ack Clark. Listening is important, but so is deciding what you want your space to be able and catering to that subset of the population. Like Jacob we have said "no" to "by the hour." We want to build a community, not cater to a set of transients.

Re: [Coworking] My thoughts on the private office vs public space issue

2009-12-22 Thread Jacob Sayles
I disagree. We tell folks "no" all the time. It's not about forcing them into our model or trying to change their behavior, it's about knowing what is important to us and what business we want to be in. We get folks asking over and over if they can rent our conference rooms by the hour. We are

Re: [Coworking] My thoughts on the private office vs public space issue

2009-12-22 Thread Jerome Chang
Great article Clark. It's good to know that you're readily acknowledging the urgent need to adapt and adapt quickly to customer demand. That's very critical. We've definitely learned a thing or two from our "customers". Originally, we had set up these very exact plans for 2 days/wk, and 3

Re: [Coworking] My thoughts on the private office vs public space issue

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Pihlman
I agreegreat article. Thanks Tara for the advice. :-) Mike On 12/22/2009 11:18 AM, Tara Hunt wrote: > Great article...only thing I would push back on is: "Give people what > they ask for" > > As many spaces have experienced, what people ask for and what the > actually want are two diffe

Re: [Coworking] My thoughts on the private office vs public space issue

2009-12-22 Thread Tara Hunt
Great article...only thing I would push back on is: "Give people what they ask for" As many spaces have experienced, what people ask for and what the actually want are two different things. CubeSpace in Portland suffered because of this. People wanted offices and cubes and photocopiers and their d

[Coworking] My thoughts on the private office vs public space issue

2009-12-22 Thread Clark Covington
Hi, Cowork space owner, and active reader of this Google Group here. Let me preface this note by explaining that I absolutely love this group. It is a wonderfully rich well of knowledge that I dip into often as the owner of a new coworking space. Many people in this group have personally helped m

[Coworking] Re: PariSoMa and Zipcar

2009-12-22 Thread jasontgoodr...@gmail.com
Re: Car sharing and coworking Hi, all. OfficePort in Chicago has a similar arrangement with i-Go Car Sharing, a popular locally owned non-profit. Car sharing and coworking (office sharing) are natural fits and a great chance to cross-promote. We promote i-Go at events and feature our arrangement—

Re: [Coworking] Re: Partnerships (was PariSoMa and Zipcar)

2009-12-22 Thread Tara Hunt
Totally not wanting to be a big negatory here, but re: Zipcar. A couple of years ago, Citizen Space did the same 'partnership' with Zipcar but quickly realized that us just getting a corporate account was a much better deal for our members. Instead of $8.75/hour, they got a $7/hr $48/day from 7am-

[Coworking] Re: Partnerships (was PariSoMa and Zipcar)

2009-12-22 Thread Scott Tillitt / BEAHIVE
Along those lines, when I started BEAHIVE I considered partnerships but haven't yet fully explored any. Although I should say that we opened a 2nd location in our region (40 miles away) by partnering with a regional magazine (who owns the building). Anyone have any other good examples like Pari