Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-12 Thread Christian-Emil Smith Ore
To: Martin Doerr Cc: crm-sig Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework Dear Martin I do not want to bore the SIG members any more, but your argument serves my cause, and not yours. Let me remind that the discussion is about an example of (E78 Curated Holding which is a subclass of)) E24 Physical

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Franco Niccolucci
activity of curating the (data) set. >> >> In the fourth example on could put the word Digital in parenthesis or delete >> it: >> The (Digital) Collections of the Munich DigitiZation Center (MDZ) >> accessible via >> https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/ &g

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Martin Doerr
itiZation Center (MDZ) accessible via https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/ at least in January 2018 Best Christian-Emil From: Crm-sig on behalf of Franco Niccolucci Sent: 11 January 2018 11:03 To: Achille Felicetti Cc: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework Thanks Achi

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear Franco, I'd like to clarify: The CRM does not intend to constitute a dictionary of what terms mean in an absolute way. Of course the content of the Digital Library at any point in time is immaterial. No objections to your comments. But it is equally obvious, that any accessible form of it

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Christian-Emil Smith Ore
enter (MDZ) accessible via https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/ at least in January 2018 Best Christian-Emil From: Crm-sig on behalf of Franco Niccolucci Sent: 11 January 2018 11:03 To: Achille Felicetti Cc: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework Thanks Achille. Tha

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Franco Niccolucci
Dear Achille my position is to deprecate the use of the term “digital collection” to precisely designate whatever, as it is ambiguous (agree with Thanis). If used colloquially, it is an acceptable term to designate the assembly of various digital objects. In no case it can refer to or exempli

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Achille Felicetti
Dear Franco, I fully support you threefold view of the digital world, but I have also the impression, in the case of a digital collection, that the particular situation under which such an entity exists, needs some specific conceptualisation. In particular, my question is: in which of the three

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Franco Niccolucci
Thanks Achille. That sentence about 0s and 1s is there probably because people, and especially humanists like dictionary editors, don’t understand the nature of numbers. The number “two” is the number two, not two cows, two oranges or two humans. Its definition does not need any physical repr

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Achille Felicetti
Dear Franco, > Il giorno 10 gen 2018, alle ore 21:52, Franco Niccolucci > ha scritto: > > Quoting Martin below > > [By Digital Collections] ... we do not mean the servers as a whole, but only > the material signal encoding on the media. > > This statement is an oxymoron. Whatever material th

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Franco Niccolucci
All these examples show that the issue exist! My opinion in short: there is of course a distinction between “hard” and “soft” copies. Hard (i.e. material) copies involve modifying matter; soft (i.e. immaterial) ones don’t. Hard copies are affected by degradation, soft ones don’t. Soft copies ma

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-11 Thread Franco Niccolucci
Not really, Daria. It is not digital, it possibly represents/is the support of a digital encoding, same as a selfie of me on my iphone is not my face. Franco Prof. Franco Niccolucci Director, VAST-LAB PIN - U. of Florence Scientific Coordinator ARIADNE - PARTHENOS Piazza Ciardi 25 59100 Prato,

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-10 Thread Дарья Юрьевна Гук
QR-code is very phisical (on surface) and absolutely digital, because presents 0 & 1. With kind regards, Daria Hookk

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-10 Thread Franco Niccolucci
Quoting Martin below [By Digital Collections] ... we do not mean the servers as a whole, but only the material signal encoding on the media. This statement is an oxymoron. Whatever material thing cannot be digital, not even “signals”: according to my Oxford Dictionary, digital means "expressed

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-10 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear Thanasi, On 1/10/2018 1:30 PM, Athanasios Velios wrote: Shouldn't this: §  The Digital Collections of the Munich DigitiZation Center (MDZ) accessible via https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/ at least in January 2018. be instead: §  The group of servers (hardware) holding the Digital Co

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-10 Thread Athanasios Velios
Shouldn't this: § The Digital Collections of the Munich DigitiZation Center (MDZ) accessible via https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/ at least in January 2018. be instead: § The group of servers (hardware) holding the Digital Collections of the Munich DigitiZation Center (MDZ) accessible vi

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-08 Thread Martin Doerr
On 1/8/2018 4:25 PM, Øyvind Eide wrote: Dear Martin, and all, it looks good to me. Given the deprecation of E84 it could be nice to add a sentence to the scope note of E24, something like: ”Instances of this class can act as carriers of instances of E73 Information Object.” OK, see below!

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-08 Thread Stephen Stead
crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr] On Behalf Of Øyvind Eide Sent: 08 January 2018 14:35 To: crm-sig Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework Dear Martin, and all, it looks good to me. Given the deprecation of E84 it could be nice to add a sentence to the scope note of E24, something like: ”Instances o

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-08 Thread Øyvind Eide
Dear Martin, and all, it looks good to me. Given the deprecation of E84 it could be nice to add a sentence to the scope note of E24, something like: ”Instances of this class can act as carriers of instances of E73 Information Object.” Regards, Øyvind > Am 04.01.2018 um 18:39 schrieb Martin D

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 295 homework

2018-01-04 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, Here my proposals: "ISSUE 295 Following Martin’s proposal to remove class E84 since it does not satisfy the requirements proposed on issue 340, the sig proposed the examples of material carrier of a digital object to be moved to E24 of an E25 digital feature and possibly to E78