Re: [css-d] Proportional Layouts

2005-08-05 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Olá Jason, One of the best attempts I know of to do what you suggest was delivered by Dan Cameron (aka: the man in blue). His solution depends on scripting but it is possible to choose a default size for those users who have not JavaScript. Images are another problem, as, when stretched, they

Re: [css-d] Proportional Layouts

2005-08-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jason Yamada-Hanff wrote: Of course, a fluid layout fits the bill to a certain extent except that in my case, the ratios of the container width/height and sidebar/content widths are essential design aspects and so those ratios must be retained. My question is a practical one - is this someth

Re: [css-d] Proportional Layouts

2005-08-05 Thread Martin Heiden
Jason, I think that this is an interesting idea. Right now I try to make my layouts scale with the text-size, which leads to some resolution problems regarding images and lots of sizing issues with background-images. But with some planning it is really nice. When media-queries (CSS3) wi

[css-d] Dynamic margin-bottom

2005-08-05 Thread Marcel Pociot
Hi, This is my first contribution to your mailing list. I need help regarding a problem with margin-bottom. The thing is: A small gif should seperate an image on the left and a text as on the right. It's genereally a simple article style. So my problem is the following: If I set the margin-botto

Re: [css-d] Dynamic margin-bottom

2005-08-05 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 8/5/05, Marcel Pociot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So my problem is the following: > If I set the margin-bottom for the small gif to a fixed height, like 100px, > articles that have smaller images and less text than 100px look very messy > because of the overlapping margin-bottom. > > You can t

Re: [css-d] Dynamic margin-bottom

2005-08-05 Thread Christian Heilmann
> You can take a look at it here: http://www.my-band.de/xbyte/css_problem.gif Another option would be negative margins: Header Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para Para P

Re: [css-d] Dynamic margin-bottom

2005-08-05 Thread Martin Heiden
Marcel, > The thing is: A small gif should seperate an image on the left and a text as > on the right. > So my problem is the following: > If I set the margin-bottom for the small gif to a fixed height, like 100px, > articles that have smaller images and less text than 100px look very messy > be

[css-d] Does IE 5.2 Mac not apply print styles to documents loaded inside iframes?

2005-08-05 Thread medial | André Huf
Hello List, is there any knowledge in the list about IE 5.2 Mac not applying styles defined in a stylesheet with the media attribute set to "print" in a document that is loaded inside an iframe? I set up a simple test page for this: http://dev.electroschore.de/iframeMacTest.htm Is there any way

Re: [css-d] Dynamic margin-bottom

2005-08-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Marcel Pociot wrote: So my problem is the following: If I set the margin-bottom for the small gif to a fixed height, like 100px, articles that have smaller images and less text than 100px look very messy because of the overlapping margin-bottom. http://www.my-band.de/xbyte/css_problem.gif

Re: [css-d] Proportional Layouts

2005-08-05 Thread Christy Collins
On Friday, August 5, 2005, at 04:30 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Then comes my question: is proportional scaling a good idea? Personally I don't think proportional pages/elements are of much use in most cases, and may be counter-productive in some cases because they may end up not fitting anywhe

Re: [css-d] Proportional Layouts

2005-08-05 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Christy, Maybe you were referring yourself to this page...: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/em/ Roberto -- Christy Collins wrote: There is a web page that I have seen posted to this list about the best / most easily read widths for a block of text. I don't h

Re: [css-d] FF impossible resize bug

2005-08-05 Thread Michiel van der Blonk
Hi I already found out about the min-height. John & Holly didn't know the bug and decided to put it on PIE. I am not sure about Deer Park. I tested it and still got the bug, but then this is DP from 16th July, you might have the latest build. min-height doesn't work in IE of course, so a bet

[css-d] Missing something stupid

2005-08-05 Thread Tanya Renne
I'll admit I'm a newbie and have the tendency to reverse engineer more than strat from scratch - no doubt I miss a lot of key concepts that way ... I have a site: http://www.orchidsuites.net/aham/industry -- when you click on "governement relations" and context-sensitive menus appears at the to

Re: [css-d] Site Collapses

2005-08-05 Thread Adam Kuehn
Roger Roelofs wrote: > I have built a site at > with the css at > If I view the site in a small screen size the middle column ends up below the content column. Is there anyway I can stop this please? #n

[css-d] Firefox: little bug with text-transform and "ß"

2005-08-05 Thread Klaus Hartl
Hi all, Maybe someone (eventually some german guy) has found this bug before - if not you might be interestest in a little bug I found today for the latest Firefox: If you use "text-transform: uppercase;" on an element holding text which contains "ß", that letter transforms to "SS" (correct

[css-d] problem with layout on dell

2005-08-05 Thread Scot Schlinger
HI all, I have a site (http://www.rell.com/test/index.html) that I have been working (and many of you with your help) that has worked fine until I went to my boss to show the generic design to get the sign-off. They have a dell laptop, xp, ie 6.x and it completely blew up the design. I have s

Re: [css-d] Missing something stupid

2005-08-05 Thread David Laakso
Tanya Renne wrote: I have a site: http://www.orchidsuites.net/aham/industry -- [...] -Tanya Hi Tanya, The fly-out menus(both horizontal and vertical) are extremely difficult to hold. Among both of them there are nearly 60 clickable links. The first time someone hits text-zoom they'll be

Re: [css-d] FF impossible resize bug

2005-08-05 Thread Ingo Chao
Michiel van der Blonk wrote: I am not sure about Deer Park. I tested it and still got the bug, but then this is DP from 16th July, you might have the latest build. I don't know if this conversation is meant off list or onlist, so apologizes if I do disturb. - Assuming you are still spe

[css-d] Re: Site Check Please - sagefish.com

2005-08-05 Thread Jade True
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: >Although I don't have Netscape 6.2, I do have 6.1 and 7.1, and your form >fields appear fine in both those browsers (it's messed up looking in >6.1, but I wouldn't worry about this). Did you fix this, or are you >still having problems in 6.2? There was a bug in N

Re: [css-d] Missing something stupid

2005-08-05 Thread Tanya Renne
Thanks David - that's what I'm trying to achieve - at least with that portion of the navigation - a simple ordered list. David Laakso wrote: Tanya Renne wrote: I have a site: http://www.orchidsuites.net/aham/industry -- [...] -Tanya Hi Tanya, The fly-out menus(both horizontal and ve

[css-d] vertical distortion in MAC IE 5.2 & Safari

2005-08-05 Thread Juanita
Hi - I made the suggested changes to my css so that scroll bars would not appear/disappear in FF, Opera & Netscape depending on the change of content length of different pages. I thought all was well - hurray! - then happed to look at the site on a MAC, and - yikes! - the pages have been vertical

Re: [css-d] problem with layout on dell

2005-08-05 Thread Uwe Kaiser
Scot Schlinger schrieb: HI all, I have a site (http://www.rell.com/test/index.html) that I have been working (and many of you with your help) that has worked fine until I went to my boss to show the generic design to get the sign-off. They have a dell laptop, xp, ie 6.x and it completely bl

Re: [css-d] Missing something stupid

2005-08-05 Thread David Laakso
Tanya Renne wrote: Thanks David - that's what I'm trying to achieve - at least with that portion of the navigation - a simple ordered list. David Laakso wrote: Tanya Renne wrote: I have a site: http://www.orchidsuites.net/aham/industry -- -Tanya [...] Tanya, I was thinking more alo

[css-d] [SOT] Pop(over) messages

2005-08-05 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
This isn't exactly/only css related so ignore if inclined. I am looking for code/examples that produce the pop-over (?) messages that come up when I mouseover the DVD images at Netflix. I started grab code but got feeling guilty so decided I should look for open/free code to do this before reso

Re: [css-d] [SOT] Pop(over) messages

2005-08-05 Thread Matthew Ohlman
Roderick A. Anderson wrote: This isn't exactly/only css related so ignore if inclined. I am looking for code/examples that produce the pop-over (?) messages that come up when I mouseover the DVD images at Netflix. I started grab code but got feeling guilty so decided I should look for open/

RE: [css-d] [SOT] Pop(over) messages

2005-08-05 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
Roderick A. Anderson ink wired: > I am looking for code/examples that produce the > pop-over (?) messages that come up when I > mouseover the DVD images at Netflix. I'm not familiar with Netflix, but am very familiar with a free JavaScript that gets the job done. You can find Overlib at http:/

[css-d] Align text to two different sides of a

2005-08-05 Thread Fred Newtz
Is there anyway I can align two different pieces of text to two different sides of a ? I tried using and however it is not working for me. Here is what I am trying to do now: 1. Newtz, Fred Enrolled on: 04/11/2005 Of course this is all in PHP, but that has been removed to protect the purity

Re: [css-d] Firefox: little bug with text-transform and "ß"

2005-08-05 Thread Adam Kuehn
Klaus Hartl wrote: If you use "text-transform: uppercase;" on an element holding text which contains "ß", that letter transforms to "SS" (correct), but than, under certain circumstances (has to be one word or the second of two), the last letter is missing. In testing on other Mac browsers

Re: [css-d] Align text to two different sides of a

2005-08-05 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, August 5, 2005, 1:32:45 PM, Fred Newtz wrote: > Is there anyway I can align two different pieces of text to two different > sides of a ? I tried using and however it is not working > 1. Newtz, Fred Enrolled on: 04/11/2005 Invalid TABLE markup...might I suggest: 1. Newtz, FredEnrolle

[css-d] Column Border Height

2005-08-05 Thread Cindi Simonson
Hi there, I'm using a 3-column layout with a header and footer and have a border on each side of column two. Is there a way to add a border that will adjust to the height of the longest column? Thanks, Cindi S. __ css-discuss [

[css-d] now the problem with ie

2005-08-05 Thread development
Hi, I am very sorry to be bothering the list again, my focus is the asp code on the server, and css is not really in my skill set... I fixed all errors, the page now validates in W3C CSS Validator, however there is a problem with the icons/buttons not showing in IE. There is also a minor pr

[css-d] Re: Proportional Layouts

2005-08-05 Thread Jade True
Christy Collins wrote: >This is sort of where I am at with this issue - I used to do it, but >then I realized that a really wide block of text is just hard to read. >There is a web page that I have seen posted to this list about the best >/ most easily read widths for a block of text. I don't

Re: [css-d] Fieldset woes

2005-08-05 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Jan Brasna wrote: fieldset { padding: 1em; margin-top: 1em; background: #f0f5f8; border: 1px solid #d7e7f2; } legend { font-weight: bold; color: #2a699e; padding: 0.3em; } * html fieldset { position: relative; padding-top: 2.5em; } * html legend { position: absolute; t

RE: [css-d] problem with layout on dell

2005-08-05 Thread Scot Schlinger
> I have a site (http://www.rell.com/test/index.html) that I have been > working (and many of you with your help) that has worked fine until I > went to my boss to show the generic design to get the sign-off. They > have a dell laptop, xp, ie 6.x and it completely blew up the design. I > have si

RE: [css-d] Column Border Height

2005-08-05 Thread Pringle, Ron
> I'm using a 3-column layout with a header and footer and have a border > on each side of column two. Is there a way to add a border that will > adjust to the height of the longest column? > > Thanks, > > Cindi S. Cindi- You'll need to use a background image to create what you're after. Have

Re: [css-d] Fieldset woes

2005-08-05 Thread Jan Brasna
Can you please provide some explanation for the styles you posted? What are they supposed to do? It fixes the background overflow from fieldset in IE. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com __ css-

Re: [css-d] [SOT] Pop(over) messages

2005-08-05 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Roderick A. Anderson wrote: > I am looking for code/examples that produce the pop-over (?) messages that > come up when I mouseover the DVD images at Netflix. Matthew, Dwayne; Thanks for the links. They are close and will work for my application. Incase anyone is intereste

Re[2]: [css-d] problem with layout on dell

2005-08-05 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, August 5, 2005, 2:29:44 PM, Scot Schlinger wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a work around or do I have to change my css > to work with different dpi? If so, in either case, what would be the > best way of going about this? Hate to bear the news, but these are uncharted waters. This

Re: [css-d] Firefox: little b ug with text-transform and "ß"

2005-08-05 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 8/5/05, Klaus Hartl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you use "text-transform: uppercase;" on an element holding text which > contains "ß", that letter transforms to "SS" (correct), but than, under > certain circumstances (has to be one word or the second of two), the > last letter is missing.

[css-d] Last question ...

2005-08-05 Thread Tanya Renne
I'm about to put the styles on this site to bed and I've stumbled across something that is causing me fits - http://www.orchidsuites.net/aham/industry/index.php?display=Items&cat_id=526&pid=1143 can someone tell me why the content in the main nav is coming in below the bottom of the context sen

[css-d] IE problem: gap before background image after div and before table

2005-08-05 Thread Andrew Mason
Hi, Anyone know why I'm having this problem with IE? http://www.pandamouth.org/simplikate/ At the top of the page, after the header and before the background image in the main part of the page there is a little gap. You can tell because the border, which is part of the background image, is

RE: Re[2]: [css-d] problem with layout on dell

2005-08-05 Thread Scot Schlinger
That was it! Thank you everyone who provided their input on this problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Clay Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:10 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re[2]: [css-d] problem with layout on dell

Re: [css-d] IE problem: gap before background image after div and before table

2005-08-05 Thread Matthew Ohlman
Andrew Mason wrote: Hi, Anyone know why I'm having this problem with IE? http://www.pandamouth.org/simplikate/ At the top of the page, after the header and before the background image in the main part of the page there is a little gap. You can tell because the border, which is part of th

[css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread Tek
I am just learning css and I have been working with adding a background image to a cell. well really I'm reading eric meyer on css and I find css that reads: background: transparent url(filename). When I do this in Dreamweaver the code doesn't show this "tranparent url". Can someone explain why t

Re: [css-d] now the problem with ie

2005-08-05 Thread Matthew Ohlman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fixed all errors, the page now validates in W3C CSS Validator, however there is a problem with the icons/buttons not showing in IE. http://www.haroldauto.com/edit:2:43t243zt3b Hi: You have 160 errors in your XHTML.[1] Fixing those may solve a few of your prob

RE: [css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread Dean Matsueda
> background: transparent url(filename). This is a shorthand method for writing CSS rules. This rule has multiple values, that are space-separated. The first value sets the background color to transparent; the second value is the server path or URL where the browser can find the image. The same

RE: [css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
> background: transparent url(filename). That's shorthand. Transparent is the background color, the url is the path to the background image. In longhand it's: background-color: transparent; background-image: url(filename); -Nigel __

Re: [css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread Jan Brasna
background: transparent url(filename). It's a shortcut of: background-color: transparent; background-image: url(filename); -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [css-d] Firefox: little bu g with text-transform and "ß"

2005-08-05 Thread Ingo Chao
Klaus Hartl wrote: If you use "text-transform: uppercase;" on an element holding text which contains "ß", that letter transforms to "SS" (correct), but than, under certain circumstances (has to be one word or the second of two), the last letter is missing. I.e.: "Europäische Außenpolitik

Re: [css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread Matthew Ohlman
Tek wrote: I am just learning css and I have been working with adding a background image to a cell. well really I'm reading eric meyer on css and I find css that reads: background: transparent url(filename). When I do this in Dreamweaver the code doesn't show this "tranparent url". Can someone

Re: [css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 8/5/05, Tek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am just learning css and I have been working with adding a > background image to a cell. well really I'm reading eric meyer on css > and I find css that reads: > > background: transparent url(filename). > > When I do this in Dreamweaver the code doesn

Re: [css-d] Firefox: little bug with text-transform and "ß"

2005-08-05 Thread L. David Baron
On Friday 2005-08-05 23:55 +0200, Ingo Chao wrote: > Klaus Hartl wrote: > >If you use "text-transform: uppercase;" on an element holding text which > >contains "ß", that letter transforms to "SS" (correct), but than, under > >certain circumstances (has to be one word or the second of two), the >

Re: [css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread L. David Baron
On Friday 2005-08-05 14:55 -0700, Dean Matsueda wrote: > > background: transparent url(filename). > > This is a shorthand method for writing CSS rules. This rule has > multiple values, that are space-separated. The first value sets the > background color to transparent; the second value is the s

[css-d] horizontal list top border

2005-08-05 Thread lilly
Please look at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/links.d/topborder.html with css at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/links.d/topborder.css On Netscape 7.1 each of the horizontal lists look the same and as I expect. On IE 6.0 when the width of the DIV enclosing the list has a specified width the *

Re: [css-d] vertical distortion in MAC IE 5.2 & Safari

2005-08-05 Thread Jono Young
As far as I can tell, it only distorts in Safari 2.0 for me, which is weird. I am running Tiger (OS 10.4.2). It looks good in IE/Mac 5.2.3 (BRAVO!!) and in Firefox 1.0.6. The page does not validate, which may have something to do with it? I can't see right off hand why it is distorting.

RE: [css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread Dean Matsueda
> Despite 5 people saying it, this is actually technically > incorrect, and the difference (although minor) is probably > worth pointing out. Indeed and glad you've clarified. But for someone just beginning to learn CSS, would it help to distill it down to: But be careful with using shorthand

Re: [css-d] What is "transparent url"

2005-08-05 Thread Jan Brasna
Despite 5 people saying it, this is actually technically incorrect, and the difference (although minor) is probably worth pointing out. Great point, David. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com __

Re: [css-d] vertical distortion in MAC IE 5.2 & Safari

2005-08-05 Thread Juanita
Jono- Actually I was playing around (again) and hid the height 100% from IE/Mac and that fixed that problem, but will have to continue to work a Safari solution. I've been playing around with it so much, I really do need to validate it (again!) Thanx for checking - appreciate your time! Juanita

Re: [css-d] FF impossible resize bug

2005-08-05 Thread Roger Roelofs
Michiel and Ingo, On 8/5/05, Michiel van der Blonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I already found out about the min-height. John & Holly didn't know the bug > and decided to put it on PIE. I am not sure about Deer Park. I tested it and > still got the bug, but then this is DP from 16th Ju

Re: [css-d] a few more issues in FF (perhaps dealing with float clearing)

2005-08-05 Thread Roger Roelofs
Bruce, On 8/3/05, Bruce Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am having a few more issues at : > http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/test/test_file.htm > > when reviewing in FF, I notice the image (the key in hand image), has > some unwanted space between the top of the image and the light

Re: [css-d] Does IE 5.2 Mac not apply print styles to documents loaded inside iframes?

2005-08-05 Thread Roger Roelofs
André, On 8/5/05, medial | André Huf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello List, > > is there any knowledge in the list about IE 5.2 Mac not applying styles > defined in a stylesheet with the media attribute set to "print" in a > document that is loaded inside an iframe? > > I set up a simple test

Re: [css-d] Firefox: little bu g with text-transform and "ß"

2005-08-05 Thread Ingo Chao
David, thanks for clarifying. And for the tons of bugs fixed every day. Regards, Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- htt

Re: [css-d] Preventing Border Slant, where they join?

2005-08-05 Thread Richard Grevers
On 8/4/05, Kevin Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to prevent the border slant that happens when 2 different > coloured borders meet? > > e.g. > http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/slantinfo.html > > I want there to be a solid edge on both side, not an angled join. > > I'm expec

Re: [css-d] horizontal list top border

2005-08-05 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please look at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/links.d/topborder.html with css at http://artsci.wustl.edu/~jkatz/links.d/topborder.css On Netscape 7.1 each of the horizontal lists look the same and as I expect. On IE 6.0 when the width of the DIV enclosing the list