Re: [css-d] how 2 position position pureCSS dropdown submenu *relative* to parent? absolute wrt page is OK ...

2006-04-21 Thread Pete Stuart
richard, well described, and you're right -- once the epiphany strikes, lots becomes clear ... thanks. iiuc, i _do_ have the 'boxes' correctly defined/laid out. the menu dropdown are, in fact working 'correctly' as: sweet. sorry for the misunderstanding. now, i WANT to have the

Re: [css-d] how 2 position position pureCSS dropdown submenu *relative* to parent? absolute wrt page is OK ...

2006-04-21 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi pete, sweet. sorry for the misunderstanding. de nada! ... #techList ul:hover li ul is currently contained by #techList, and positioned relative to it. ... By setting #techList ul { position: relative; }, you can make _it_ the container

[css-d] Resizing form input elements

2006-04-21 Thread Eoin Maguire
Hi, Does anyone know if there's a way to reliably resize the SELECT element of a html form? I say reliably because I've so far used percentages, pixels, points and EMs and still haven't managed to get it the way I want it. It's probably font related (using Arial) but the symptoms are the

[css-d] having layout and relative positioning [WAS Re: Peekaboo Too?]

2006-04-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Adam McGrath wrote: the only other quick fix i could recomend is to try forcing the parent element #content, to have layout, (eg position: relative;), that usually fixes a multitude of peekaboo weirdness's position: relative does not give an element layout in IE6. position: absolute

Re: [css-d] dropping divs on text resize?

2006-04-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Design Groups wrote: Why can't clients be smart, like you all on this list? Why? Luckily, with patience, we can make some of them smarter. ;-) But you have to pick your battles. Sure. Just give each li a width. :-) And this is where I prove that I'm not as smart as you all. I read this

Re: [css-d] dropping divs on text resize?

2006-04-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: If you need to set widths on the list items, then float them instead of making them inline. Inline is best for horizontal lists where you want the width of the content itself to determine the widths of the list items. Just to clarify my own statement: Floats are

Re: [css-d] IE4 and CS?

2006-04-21 Thread Design Groups
LOL - Nothing like a good giggle in the morning, thanks all. I just wanted to address this quickly, since the point is moot now. No, this was *not* for a local intranet - it was for their actual website for the public. These guys seriously believe that the majority of their clients use IE4.

Re: [css-d] having layout and relative positioning [WAS Re: Peekaboo Too?]

2006-04-21 Thread Bryce Fields
On 4/21/06, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam McGrath wrote: the only other quick fix i could recomend is to try forcing the parent element #content, to have layout, (eg position: relative;), that usually fixes a multitude of peekaboo weirdness's position: relative does

Re: [css-d] having layout and relative positioning [WAS Re: Peekaboo Too?]

2006-04-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Bryce Fields wrote: On 4/21/06, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam McGrath wrote: the only other quick fix i could recomend is to try forcing the parent element #content, to have layout, (eg position: relative;), that usually fixes a multitude of peekaboo weirdness's

[css-d] floated dt dl and IE is not clearing

2006-04-21 Thread Brian Funk
Or at least, I think it is a clearing problem..:-S The page shows as intended on FF and Opera but IE allows the dt (floated right) and the dd (text floated right)elements to rise up above the image it is associated with. html: http://www.stoneladder.ca/sandbox/lbk/females.html css:

[css-d] Unwanted horizontal line in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Anne Campbell
Hi all, I've been lurking for a number of weeks, and this is my first post. I've learned so much already! I've been a Web designer since 1995 (as a hobby) and 1997 (professionally), but it's only been in the last year or so that I've been delving more deeply into CSS. I'm working on a site for a

Re: [css-d] having layout and relative positioning [WAS Re: Peekaboo Too?]

2006-04-21 Thread Adam McGrath
woops... my bad... should have said give element layout OR use position: relative - thanks for pointing that out zoe best adam On 4/21/06, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryce Fields wrote: On 4/21/06, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam McGrath wrote: the

Re: [css-d] Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Christy Collins
Oh thanks so much - that did it - I had tried some of those things in isolation with no luck. Now there's one last thing. Safari doesn't like it. It didn't like it before either, so this fix didn't break it. We have a heap of Safari users. There's also a little thing where the position

Re: [css-d] Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Christy Collins
On Apr 21, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Christy Collins wrote: There's also a little thing where the position is slightly higher in IE than Firefox. I can probably affect this with a conditional comment, but if anyone has another solution I'd love to hear it. Forget that last part - Ingo's fix made

[css-d] display: inline; - FF issue

2006-04-21 Thread MINTCENT
https://hazards.fema.gov/femaportal/wps/portal/!ut/p/.cmd/cs/.ce/7_0_A/.s/7_0_CAF/_s.7_0_A/7_0_CAFhttps://hazards.fema.gov/femaportal/wps/portal/%21ut/p/.cmd/cs/.ce/7_0_A/.s/7_0_CAF/_s.7_0_A/7_0_CAF I am having trouble with display: inline; - If you look at the link above, it renders fine in IE.

[css-d] Interesting IE Issue

2006-04-21 Thread Tim \(The Site Doctor\)
Afternoon / Evening / Morning Everyone, I've got an odd issue with IE (both PC and Mac) on this site: http://www.thesitedoctor.co.uk/BVS/Example.htm there should be a border and background to the h1 Dasyatidae (Stingrays). Its there in every other browser but not IE, does anyone have any ideas?

[css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread SystemAdmin
what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ --

[css-d] how 2 prevent centered container's LEFT margin disappearing as browser 'mid-width' ?

2006-04-21 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi all, i've a 'centered container' on my page. it's styled as: width: 850px margin: 0px 0px 0px -425px min-width: 850px if i drag the browser window width LESS THAN 'min-width', the horiz scrollbar shows up as

Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread kuasar
css editor... ¿? gedit?? vim?? my editors for everything. On 21/04/06, SystemAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Interesting IE Issue

2006-04-21 Thread Jens Brueckmann
Hi Tim, I've got an odd issue with IE (both PC and Mac) on this site: http://www.thesitedoctor.co.uk/BVS/Example.htm there should be a border and background to the h1 Dasyatidae (Stingrays). I do not know whether this bug has any name or why this issue occurs in IE, but setting the position

Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Ben Liu
BBEdit http://barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.shtml On 4/21/06, SystemAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Mike Botsko
Personally I use PSPad for editing everything. Dreamweaver 8 has some good css editing tools but it's not a sole reason to obtain Dreamweaver. Michael Botsko Web Developer 503.227.2571 x230 AIM: botskonet TechTracker, Inc www.techtracker.com -Original Message- what do you guys (and

Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Brian Funk
Quoting SystemAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor? did you check the wiki? http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssEditors Crimson Editor is nice, simple and free :-) http://www.crimsoneditor.com Brian

Re: [css-d] Interesting IE Issue

2006-04-21 Thread Tim \(The Site Doctor\)
That's amazing, thanks Jens Tim __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/

Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Bill Harrison
At 10:42 AM 04/21/2006 SystemAdmin wrote: what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor? I like TopStyle and/or Stylemaster. The CSS editor in Dreamweaver 8 is pretty good. And of course, good old Notepad. Take a look at others in the Wiki

Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Rella Abernathy
If you're using a Mac, I really like this one. http://macrabbit.com/cssedit/ I was just using a text editor before and it's so nice to have a CSS editor! what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor? __

Re: [css-d] how 2 prevent centered container's LEFT margin disappearing as browser 'mid-width' ?

2006-04-21 Thread Pringle, Ron
Richard wrote: SNIP iiuc, to keep a container centered, i need to use the negative left margin spec ... Actually you can use the following code: On body, add text-align:center; and then add margin:0 auto; to the container. Just remember to re-set any text within that container to

Re: [css-d] how 2 prevent centered container's LEFT margin disappearing as browser 'mid-width' ?

2006-04-21 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi ron, thx for the reply the reference! :-) iiuc, to keep a container centered, i need to use the negative left margin spec ... Actually you can use the following code: On body, add text-align:center; and then add margin:0 auto; to

Re: [css-d] how 2 prevent centered container's LEFT margin disappearing as browser 'mid-width' ?

2006-04-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
OpenMacNews wrote: but how do i ensure that the LEFT side of the page can be scrolled to in resize-to-narrow-browser circumstances? simple EXAMPLE here: http://tinyurl.com/ovrmq suggestions? Don't use that method, and avoid absolute positioning of large page-parts..(?) This... body {

Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Don Miller
If you are looking for only a CSS editor and not an HTML editor try: http://www.newsgator.com/NGOLProduct.aspx?ProdID=TopStyle They have free version - or at least used to. Don - Original Message - From: Brian Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SystemAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: [css-d] how 2 prevent centered container's LEFT margin disappearing as browser 'mid-width' ?

2006-04-21 Thread Pringle, Ron
You're welcome :-) It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure that out the first time! So simple, yet not apparent! Regards, Ron hi ron, thx for the reply the reference! :-) iiuc, to keep a container centered, i need to use the negative left margin spec ... Actually

Re: [css-d] how 2 prevent centered container's LEFT margin disappearing as browser 'mid-width' ?

2006-04-21 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi georg, suggestions? Don't use that method, and avoid absolute positioning of large page-parts..(?) This... body { margin: 5px 0 5px 0; } div#main_container { width: 850px; _height: 768px; min-width: 850px;

Re: [css-d] Interesting IE Issue

2006-04-21 Thread David Laakso
Tim (The Site Doctor) wrote: http://www.thesitedoctor.co.uk/BVS/Example.htm there should be a border and background to the h1 Dasyatidae (Stingrays). Tim Have you fixed this? I get the border in xp_sp2 6.0-- don't know about win/5x, or mac/ie5.2, though. BTW, h2 is crossing over in ff on 2+

[css-d] [ADMIN] Re: CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
| Quoting SystemAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | | what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor? | | did you check the wiki? | http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssEditors Ok, folks, we're starting to get people repeating others, so let's end this thread if it's just going to

[css-d] Vertically aligning decimal values in tables?

2006-04-21 Thread MarcLuzietti
Is there a setting in CSS that allows you to vertically align decimals in tables? -- Marc Luzietti Flagship Project Bayview Financial, L.P. (305) 341-5624 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] how 2 prevent centered container's LEFT margin disappearing as browser 'mid-width' ?

2006-04-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
OpenMacNews wrote: QUESTION: is there a good reference for make-it-work-with-IE/win hacks? e.g., i've never come across (yet) the underscore hack you mention The CSS validator chokes on the 'leading underscore' hack, but it is still one of the simplest and safest ways to target IE6

Re: [css-d] Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Christy Collins
On Apr 21, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Christy Collins wrote: Now there's one last thing. Safari doesn't like it. It didn't like it before either, so this fix didn't break it. We have a heap of Safari users. ... http://ee.berkshireradio.org/index.php/main/test/ -Christy Found this on a

Re: [css-d] Vertically aligning decimal values in tables?

2006-04-21 Thread David Hucklesby
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:15:50 -0400, Marc Luzietti wrote:  Is there a setting in CSS that allows you to vertically align decimals  in tables? Not in CSS, Marc. HTML has the 'align=char' attribute for table cols, viz: COL align=char char=. But browser support is poor or non-existent. A CSS

Re: [css-d] Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Ed Seehouse
Christy Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this on a bulletin board: the display: inline on safari does not let you use padding or height or anyting to adjust the height of the box Um, I believe that's the standard for all inline elements in CSS. line-height should work. If it doesn't

Re: [css-d] Interesting IE Issue

2006-04-21 Thread Tim \(The Site Doctor\)
Hi David, Have you fixed this? I believe so thanks, I had to add position: relative; to the h1 CSS and it seemed to sort itself :) setting the fonts to default, and unfreezing them Yeah I'm going to change the fonts next, I just wanted to make the layout look the same for the designer and

Re: [css-d] Vertically aligning decimal values in tables?

2006-04-21 Thread Pringle, Ron
David wrote: On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:15:50 -0400, Marc Luzietti wrote:  Is there a setting in CSS that allows you to vertically align decimals  in tables? Not in CSS, Marc. HTML has the 'align=char' attribute for table cols, viz: COL align=char char=. But browser support is poor

[css-d] Ie extra padding

2006-04-21 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Hi Guys, I'm in the process of un-table-izing a new vBulletin installation. (It's amazing how bad some of this mark up really is for enterprise-level software... ) Anyway, I'm making a nice new navigation menu all css instead of the useless table cells. Can someone take a look? IE6 seems to

Re: [css-d] Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Christy Collins
On Apr 21, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Ed Seehouse wrote: Christy Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this on a bulletin board: the display: inline on safari does not let you use padding or height or anyting to adjust the height of the box Um, I believe that's the standard for all inline

Re: [css-d] Vertically aligning decimal values in tables?

2006-04-21 Thread Pringle, Ron
I wrote: CSS2 allowed for aligning text on a string [0], however, that seems to have been deprecated in CSS2.1 and I have no clue which, if any, browsers, ever supported it in the first place. Might be interesting to test. Ron [0]

Re: [css-d] how 2 prevent centered container's LEFT margin disappearing as browser 'mid-width' ?

2006-04-21 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi georg, Most valid CSS hacks are listed on... http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/index.php great reference! didn't know abt it ... :-) thx! - -- /\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X against HTML email, vCards / \ micro$oft

Re: [css-d] Ie extra padding

2006-04-21 Thread Shawn Lawler
IE6 seems to be adding double padding to my 2 menu bars, but i can't seem to find which property it's inheriting it from. She looks right in firefox 1.5 on pc. (haven't tested for mac yet.) http://tinyurl.com/rhcjn Relevant css: #navbar { border: 1px solid #222; margin: 0; padding: 0;

Re: [css-d] Ie extra padding [solved]

2006-04-21 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Shawn Lawler wrote: /* This should do it ;) */ #navbar ul, #subnav ul {margin:5px;} Of corse... the only element I didn't target :P Thanks Shawn, case closed :) Have a good weekend everyone. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] align 2 groups of text

2006-04-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Dave Solko wrote: I'm trying to align two groups of text so they butt up against each other, similar to decimal alignment. I want something that looks like: foo: bar hi: mom something: everything john: yaya eleven: some longish text ... about

Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Christy Collins
Fixed after reading this tutorial: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200501/ turning_a_list_into_a_navigation_bar/ added float: right; width: 100%; to #navcontainer and float:left; width:auto; to #navlist li I'm still unclear why some browsers support padding-top on the inline li but

[css-d] shifted div after ul in ie

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Wright
I have a menu box which uses nested divs to do rounded corners. When I put plain text into the content area of these boxes, the div that is at the bottom looks fine, but if I put in a ul, it shifts to the left in IE. Here is an example page: http://www.machinerynetwork.com/buy/test.html A

[css-d] XHTML Metatag Substitutions via XSLT

2006-04-21 Thread Kerry Kobashi
I'm trying to substitute the language, description, keywords in the metatags in my template. How would I go about doing this? Here's my stylesheet: ?xml version=1.0? xsl:stylesheet version=1.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xsl:output method=xml

Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Ricky Zhou
what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor? Personally, I use Vim for everything. Although it has somewhat of a learning curve, you become VERY efficient once you get used to it. Versions for almost any OS are available at http://www.vim.org/download.php Ricky

[css-d] Ooops.

2006-04-21 Thread Kerry Kobashi
Sorry all, my previous message went to the wrong list (its been one of those days). __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7

Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Christy Collins wrote: I'm still unclear why some browsers support padding-top on the inline li but Safari doesn't. Is this a bug or is Safari just more strict? Does it make sense that it would except horizontal padding but not vertical padding? I cannot verify this. The local

Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Sorry Here a red bordered div containing a simple pink span with a padding-top of 50px and a bg-image http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/20060421004039/inlinepadding.html Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __

Re: [css-d] shifted div after ul in ie

2006-04-21 Thread Shawn Lawler
I have a menu box which uses nested divs to do rounded corners. When I put plain text into the content area of these boxes, the div that is at the bottom looks fine, but if I put in a ul, it shifts to the left in IE. -- You're forgetting that each element has its own baggage (margins,

Re: [css-d] shifted div after ul in ie

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Wright
* html .cbox_cont { width:100%; /* this gives IE a little nudge with its math */ } That is what I was looking for...I wasn't worried about the padding and margins on the ul in the examplejust that shifting div at the bottom. Here is the fixed example if anyone wants to see...

[css-d] Drop Down Boxs (horizontal alignment with labels above eachbox)

2006-04-21 Thread Abyss - Information
Hey all, I had a question about laying out drop down boxs http://www.abyss.ws/webdevelopment/css/dropdownlayout.png they are my drop down boxs my initial thought was to put them into a ul list and layout it out with CSS that way with a display:inline; and float:left this did not work -

Re: [css-d] Unwanted horizontal line in IE

2006-04-21 Thread David Laakso
Anne Campbell wrote: I'm using IE6 for Windows. Firefox renders the site just fine, but in IE, there's a blue horizontal line above the top of the main content area. http://www.pocketvenus.net/omnitrend/ Anne Campbell Anne, I don't know what is causing the horizontal blue line.You are

Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Christy Collins
The difference between your version and mine is the doctype http://ee.berkshireradio.org/test_strict.html http://ee.berkshireradio.org/test_transitional.html Sorry about the moving target - I should have added the css to the test file I originally made. I spent much of my day working on this

Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Apr 22, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Christy Collins wrote: The difference between your version and mine is the doctype http://ee.berkshireradio.org/test_strict.html http://ee.berkshireradio.org/test_transitional.html Sorry about the moving target - I should have added the css to the test file I

[css-d] JS Text box width differences

2006-04-21 Thread Iorhael
Hi, I have added a javascript text box to three pages on the following site and am trying to figure out why the widths of the text box are so different between Firefox and IE...it is making positioning a real pain! Does anyone know how I can minimize the width differences between the two

Re: [css-d] JS Text box width differences

2006-04-21 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Iorhael wrote: Hi, I have added a javascript text box to three pages on the following site and am trying to figure out why the widths of the text box are so different between Firefox and IE...it is making positioning a real pain! Does anyone know how I can

Re: [css-d] JS Text box width differences

2006-04-21 Thread Andrew Gregory
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:21:46 +0800, Iorhael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have added a javascript text box to three pages on the following site and am trying to figure out why the widths of the text box are so different between Firefox and IE...it is making positioning a real pain!