Re: [css-d] Non-image list-style-type coloring?

2008-03-05 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:18:52 -0500, Jeff Blaine wrote: > I don't see a CSS2 way to apply a color to JUST the list item marker (disc, > square, > whatever). > > Have I missed it? I don't want to use an image. I just want to make the > list item > marker itself 20% less imposing by lightening it

Re: [css-d] CSS Menu Open Links in Content Div

2008-03-05 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:18:29 -0600, Gizmo wrote: > I'm having a problem with navigation. > I'm using a faux two column css layout right now > The top bar is main navigation > The left sidebar has a vertical navigation menu > The right side/center is the Content Div which is where i want the links on

[css-d] navbar questions

2008-03-05 Thread Rebecca Richter
Hi! I'm trying out the Sons of Ursidae menus (http://css-class.com/articles/ursidae/). This method is working o.k., but I have 3 problems with it: My design breaks when font size is increased Navigation tabs are not centered on the page (how can I do this?) Not enough of a margin below navigation

Re: [css-d] Non-image list-style-type coloring?

2008-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeff Blaine wrote: > I don't see a CSS2 way to apply a color to JUST the list item marker > (disc, square, whatever). > > Have I missed it? I don't want to use an image. I just want to make > the list item marker itself 20% less imposing by lightening it > relative to body text color. The on

Re: [css-d] expand element to 100% height

2008-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rebecca Richter wrote: > Is there a way I can make my "navbar" ul element expand vertically to > 100% height on the page > http://www.choicesmissoula.com/resources/index.html so that the > orange background will take up that whole vertical space? Adding... #mainarea { overflow: hidden; } * html

Re: [css-d] expand element to 100% height

2008-03-05 Thread David Laakso
Rebecca Richter wrote: > > Is there a way I can make my "navbar" ul element expand vertically to 100% > height on the page http://www.choicesmissoula.com/resources/index.html so > that the orange background will take up that whole vertical space? > Becca > One way is to create a "faux colum

[css-d] expand element to 100% height

2008-03-05 Thread Rebecca Richter
Sorry, I sent this before with no subject Is there a way I can make my "navbar" ul element expand vertically to 100% height on the page http://www.choicesmissoula.com/resources/index.html so that the orange background will take up that whole vertical space? The only way I've been able to achie

[css-d] (no subject)

2008-03-05 Thread Rebecca Richter
Is there a way I can make my "navbar" ul element expand vertically to 100% height on the page http://www.choicesmissoula.com/resources/index.html so that the orange background will take up that whole vertical space? The only way I've been able to achieve this on other pages is to make a whole bunch

Re: [css-d] Non-image list-style-type coloring?

2008-03-05 Thread fantasai
Jeff Blaine wrote: > I don't see a CSS2 way to apply a color to JUST the list item > marker (disc, square, whatever). > > Have I missed it? I don't want to use an image. I just want > to make the list item marker itself 20% less imposing by > lightening it relative to body text color. Yeah, CSS

[css-d] [OT] RE: Typoantialiasing problem on Mac.

2008-03-05 Thread Rob Emenecker
> There are too many variables that cannot be controlled, > right down to the contrast or colour adjustment of a > users screen I flagged this as OT, because the above comment reminded me of an incident from last year that I wanted to pass along as anecdotal info. A video producer came by my o

Re: [css-d] THis layout must exist somewhere...

2008-03-05 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Richard Grevers wrote: > Ok, I have selected a reasonable starting point from layoutgala and > started modifying but struck an imapasse and what looks like an Opera > bug. Please check out > http://www.dramatic.co.nz/layoutlab/3col_fixed_minliq_fixed/index.html > and t

Re: [css-d] 3 cols layout: this time, fixed-width center col and liquid lateral columns

2008-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cristian Grigoriu wrote: > After a couple of days of searching the internet and asking around > I'm almost convinced that either nobody needed that before either > nobody has got a result on the matter. > > What do you think? Is it possible to have such a layout? The center > column will have a f

Re: [css-d] THis layout must exist somewhere...

2008-03-05 Thread Richard Grevers
Ok, I have selected a reasonable starting point from layoutgala and started modifying but struck an imapasse and what looks like an Opera bug. Please check out http://www.dramatic.co.nz/layoutlab/3col_fixed_minliq_fixed/index.html and the two subsequent steps. (Fully annotated on the pages). -- R

Re: [css-d] Creeping form controls in IE6/7

2008-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Sauyet wrote: > Interesting, and quite simple. Any ideas on *why* hasLayout on the > link affects the position of an element some distance away? The 'hasLayout' team's collective set of ideas can be found here... The main effect is that

Re: [css-d] Typoantialiasing problem on Mac.

2008-03-05 Thread Kathy Wheeler
On 06/03/2008, at 4:43 AM, Mark Slosarek wrote: > Windows and Macs just render fonts differently: http:// > www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000884.html And this one: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000885.html >> I have strange Problem on Firefox (MAC) on some sites i programm. >>

[css-d] 3 cols layout: this time, fixed-width center col and liquid lateral columns

2008-03-05 Thread Cristian Grigoriu
Hello, After a couple of days of searching the internet and asking around I'm almost convinced that either nobody needed that before either nobody has got a result on the matter. What do you think? Is it possible to have such a layout? The center column will have a fixed width and be centered

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Story
Hernly, Lee wrote: > Netscape 4.X here... > > > When testing with an older browser such as netscape 4.x are you looking for identical results to current browsers. Or just 'good enough' results? -Mark __ css-discuss [EMAIL PR

Re: [css-d] Creeping form controls in IE6/7

2008-03-05 Thread Scott Sauyet
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Scott Sauyet wrote: >> http://scott.sauyet.com/issues/2008-03-04a/ > >> In IE7, IE6, and IE5.5, all on XP, I'm seeing something bizarre. [ ... ] > > > ...based on the effect well-placed 'hasLayout' triggers have on el

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Rob Emenecker
> I test for SIMILAR results on Firefox2, ie6, and ie7 on pc along > with safari on the mac and Konq on linux > > I test for 'acceptible' for ie5.5 on pc, opera, and ie5.5 on the mac Ditto here. Basic "content can be viewed" testing for anything less than IE6, FF2, Safari 1.2, or Konquerer (can'

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread scott.heckel
Virtualization is great for this sort of thing; however, specifically what I do is. Opera and Netscape The browsers allow for multiple versions coexisting on the same machine. Firefox I use a virtualization program for different older browser; however, there are tips online for getting two separa

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Brian Cummiskey
I test for SIMILAR results on Firefox2, ie6, and ie7 on pc along with safari on the mac and Konq on linux I test for 'acceptible' for ie5.5 on pc, opera, and ie5.5 on the mac __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discus

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Karl Hardisty
On 6/03/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower. My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less than IE6. And if they do, well, it's just time for an upgrade. I'm not jumping through that many hoops to accommodate

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Hernly, Lee
Netscape 4.X here... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Story Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:36 PM To: 'CSS' Subject: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for It seems that my perception of in the wild browsers was a bit off.

Re: [css-d] Creeping form controls in IE6/7

2008-03-05 Thread Scott Sauyet
Holly Bergevin wrote: > From: Scott Sauyet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's great to see your name back on this board. Thanks, it's great to be back. I don't know how long I'll stay; I find that I can only manage to keep up with one relatively high-volume list at a time and still do my day job. Mayb

Re: [css-d] THis layout must exist somewhere...

2008-03-05 Thread Alan Gresley
DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote: > On Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:23:09 Richard Grevers wrote: >> and the right column will start to vanish. > Actually this was the only reason made me to reply to your psot. > What do you mean by that? and why would you want right column > to vanish? > > regards, > davoud

Re: [css-d] image placement help

2008-03-05 Thread jennifer ham
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Christie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello group, > > I am new to CSS in web design and have a pretty basic question but am unsure > about the best way to solve the problem. Here is the page I am building: > > http://www.arabian-horses-west.com/test.html > > I

Re: [css-d] css layout issue, centered, three column layout

2008-03-05 Thread David Laakso
Brett Fuhs wrote: > I decided to make a centered 1000px layout, the centercontent is perfect..] > > I believe I need something with a wrapper, but I keep getting it more out of > order the more I mess with it, any suggestions? > > http://www.liaace.org > > > Brett > > Keep it simple. Avoid a

Re: [css-d] THis layout must exist somewhere...

2008-03-05 Thread tedd
At 11:28 AM -0600 3/5/08, Mark Slosarek wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-945118431; micalg=sha1; > protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" > >Richard, > >This layout is mostly possible. I have created one here : >http://mark.slosarek.net/sandbox/three_column/ > >I

Re: [css-d] Site Check in IE5/Mac

2008-03-05 Thread Cynthia M. Brumbaugh
On 3/5/08 10:34 AM, "Mark Story" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Gresley wrote: >> Now everything should hopefully work in IE/Mac. It would be much easier to >> drop support for IE/Win all together and just support IE/Mac. :-) >> >> This whole thing also reminds me to purchase a Mac for IE/Mac

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower. My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less than IE6. And if they do, well, it's just time for an upgrade. I'm not jumping through that many hoops to accommodate so few IE 5 users. And I make liberal use of conditi

Re: [css-d] image placement help

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Akins
Using the Firefox web developer tools I added a top and bottom negative margin on the #wrapper and it fixed it in Firefox. I haven't tested in IE. Don't know if this is the best or proper approach, and I don't really know why the stated margins of 0 shouldn't have worked. Some of the true experts

Re: [css-d] Typoantialiasing problem on Mac.

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Slosarek
Peter, Windows and Macs just render fonts differently: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000884.html Personally, I prefer the way Macs do it, but that it is a personal preference and I think that it is just due to familiarity. The way that I get around it is to increase my font-weig

[css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Story
It seems that my perception of in the wild browsers was a bit off. As I consider IE 5 for mac to be deceased, however it seems to be alive and kicking for some. So I just wanted to get an idea of what the oldest browser you are currently testing for is? And how are you targetting them? Hacks

Re: [css-d] THis layout must exist somewhere...

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Slosarek
Richard, This layout is mostly possible. I have created one here : http://mark.slosarek.net/sandbox/three_column/ It doesn't address number 7. It currently only works when the center column of the longest. Additionally, I doesn't work correctly in Safari. It also contains quite a few hacks

Re: [css-d] Centered content jumps on insertion of removal of scroll bar

2008-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael B Allen wrote: > I have content that is centered on the page. Problem is - when a user > switches between a page that does not have a vertical scroll bar and > one that does (because the content fits within the browser window or > does not respectively) the centered content jumps left o

Re: [css-d] Disguising path of a page

2008-03-05 Thread David Dorward
On 02/03/2008, Anne Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The site and the forum are hosted separately and they have requested > that it appears they are in the same place, ie the path does not > contain redmason etc. > > I have experimented by putting the forum in a single frameset frame >

[css-d] css layout issue, centered, three column layout

2008-03-05 Thread Brett Fuhs
Hi, I am pretty new at web design and css. I started with a three-column layout that the center content stretched to fill the screen width, with left and rights static width of 200px. Which worked but I didn't want it to stretch. I decided to make a centered 1000px layout, the centercontent is p

Re: [css-d] Site Check in IE5/Mac http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm

2008-03-05 Thread Cynthia M. Brumbaugh
On 3/5/08 10:34 AM, "Mark Story" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Gresley wrote: >> Now everything should hopefully work in IE/Mac. It would be much easier to >> drop support for IE/Win all together and just support IE/Mac. :-) >> >> This whole thing also reminds me to purchase a Mac for IE/Mac

[css-d] Non-image list-style-type coloring?

2008-03-05 Thread Jeff Blaine
I don't see a CSS2 way to apply a color to JUST the list item marker (disc, square, whatever). Have I missed it? I don't want to use an image. I just want to make the list item marker itself 20% less imposing by lightening it relative to body text color. Side question: Barring a solution above

Re: [css-d] Gap between divs in IE6

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Jinks
Hi Tim Many thanks for this. It worked like a dream. Incidentally, I tried putting the same CSS rules in separately: background-image: (url...); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: bottom left; and it didn't seem to work (yes, I'm a Dreamweaver user). Strange, eh? Che

Re: [css-d] Gap between divs in IE6

2008-03-05 Thread Paul Jinks
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Paul Jinks wrote: >> I have a page that looks just as I want in FF but which misbehaves in >> IE6, showing a gap between divs. >> http://www.pauljinks.co.uk/test/contentTemplate2.html > > The simplest and most reliable solution is to put an html comment in the > empty divs

[css-d] image placement help

2008-03-05 Thread Christie
Hello group, I am new to CSS in web design and have a pretty basic question but am unsure about the best way to solve the problem. Here is the page I am building: http://www.arabian-horses-west.com/test.html I would like the very top and very bottom graphics to touch the middle so that it is al

[css-d] Typoantialiasing problem on Mac.

2008-03-05 Thread Peter Oliver Geller
Hi all, this is my first post on this list and i hope you can read my broken english :-) I have strange Problem on Firefox (MAC) on some sites i programm. The complete Typo is looking extremly bold or bolder than on my pc. The effect is stronger when you have a darker background and a brighter ty

[css-d] Disguising path of a page

2008-03-05 Thread Anne Pennington
Dear all I have a site for a local business group: http://www.actonbusinessforum.net/ linked to a forum that my partner has created http://forums.redmason.net/ActonBusinessForum/ (link on left hand column) The site and the forum are hosted separately and they have requested that it appears

[css-d] Centered content jumps on insertion of removal of scroll bar

2008-03-05 Thread Michael B Allen
Hi, I have content that is centered on the page. Problem is - when a user switches between a page that does not have a vertical scroll bar and one that does (because the content fits within the browser window or does not respectively) the centered content jumps left or right to factor in the inser

[css-d] Drop Down Menu and Flash

2008-03-05 Thread Jon
Hello, I've read that if you have a drop down menu which sits above a flash element the drop down will be invisible, even if you include z-index within the menus css. If so is there a work around this problem? Jon __ css-disc

Re: [css-d] Site Check in IE5/Mac http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Story
Alan Gresley wrote: > Now everything should hopefully work in IE/Mac. It would be much easier to > drop support for IE/Win all together and just support IE/Mac. :-) > > This whole thing also reminds me to purchase a Mac for IE/Mac testing. > > Alan > > http://css-class.com/ > > > Make sure you

[css-d] CSS Menu Open Links in Content Div

2008-03-05 Thread Gizmo
I'm having a problem with navigation. I'm using a faux two column css layout right now The top bar is main navigation The left sidebar has a vertical navigation menu The right side/center is the Content Div which is where i want the links on the left to open I do not want the top navigation to open

Re: [css-d] Suckerfish IE misalignment madness!

2008-03-05 Thread Alan Gresley
Matt wrote: > Again, this is a tremendous help. So I was able to implement this and > it all seems to be working well. I did some interim styling that > replaced the faux rounded corners... > > The latest version: > http://mattmedia.net/aegis-b/a-home.htm > > So one final thing I can't figure.

Re: [css-d] A simple way to display data in a tabular form?

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Slosarek
Jason, You could use a table to display your information. Tables shouldn't be used strictly for layout purposes, but if the data makes sense to use a table, use a table. Having said that, the php to display this isn't to difficult. My code below is going to based on an assumption of the da

Re: [css-d] THis layout must exist somewhere...

2008-03-05 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
On Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:23:09 Richard Grevers wrote: > and the right column will start to vanish. Actually this was the only reason made me to reply to your psot. What do you mean by that? and why would you want right column to vanish? regards, davoud P.S: To contribute to my research pl

Re: [css-d] Site Check in IE5/Mac http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm

2008-03-05 Thread David Laakso
Alan Gresley wrote: > >>> >>> http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm >>> >>> > Can I please have another check for IE/Mac? > > :-) > > Alan > > > It looks the same now, unless it is hung-up in the cache or not retrieving the corrections to the style sheet , as it did in the screenshot

Re: [css-d] Site Check in IE5/Mac http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm

2008-03-05 Thread Alan Gresley
David Laakso wrote: > Alan Gresley wrote: > > > > And now the test (fingers crossed). > > > > http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm > > > > May I please have a check again in IE/Mac. > > > > Alan > > Closer now. But, we still have a little way to go yet. >

Re: [css-d] Suckerfish IE misalignment madness!

2008-03-05 Thread Matt
Again, this is a tremendous help. So I was able to implement this and it all seems to be working well. I did some interim styling that replaced the faux rounded corners... The latest version: http://mattmedia.net/aegis-b/a-home.htm So one final thing I can't figure... this drop down now works f

Re: [css-d] Quickly Removing Formatting from an Element

2008-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jason Crosse wrote: > I know I'm OT here, but I find that easier than black on white. > Actually, my default is set as #333 on #ccc, but I sit close to the > screen and sometimes have to change that depending on ambient light. I don't think you're all that much OT here, because you bring in fact

Re: [css-d] problem in IE6 - footer falls apart

2008-03-05 Thread David Laakso
Krystian - Sunlust wrote: > Me and my friend were working on a new website and he came out with this > layout: > http://filez.kapati.net/public/aenima/ > > only problem so far that I noticed is that footer falls apart in IE6, I'm > not sure why this happens. > Also, in lower resolution top navigati

Re: [css-d] Creeping form controls in IE6/7

2008-03-05 Thread Alan Gresley
Sent by Gunlaug_Sørtun on 5 March 2008 04:04 > Scott Sauyet wrote: >> http://scott.sauyet.com/issues/2008-03-04a/ >> In IE7, IE6, and IE5.5, all on XP, I'm seeing something bizarre. >> When you hover onto or off of the top menu item, the text box and >> button move down the page. They keep doi

[css-d] THis layout must exist somewhere...

2008-03-05 Thread Richard Grevers
I'm sure this exists, but my searching hasn't found it yet: 1) Fluid design but with a max width on the outer container 2) 3 columns 3) Center column first in source, has min width (may be in ems) 4) Left column last in source - fixed (or possibly em) sized. 5) Right column second in source - fixe

Re: [css-d] Quickly Removing Formatting from an Element

2008-03-05 Thread Jason Crosse
On 05/03/2008 02:26, Felix Miata wrote: > According to Philippe's response it > looks like FF3 will provide some sorely need defensive power for the inane > presumption that color: #333 is preferable to #000 on background-color: #FFF. I know I'm OT here, but I find that easier than black on white.

Re: [css-d] Site Check in IE5/Mac http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm

2008-03-05 Thread David Laakso
Alan Gresley wrote: > > > And now the test (fingers crossed). > > http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm > > May I please have a check again in IE/Mac. > > Alan > > > Closer now. But, we still have a little way to go yet. -- Victory belongs

Re: [css-d] A simple way to display data in a tabular form?

2008-03-05 Thread Jason Crosse
On 05/03/2008 06:16, Sherry Myrow wrote: > Logistically it's really simple. I need to create a page that displays a > bunch of data. I have a huge list of manufacturers and a long list of model > numbers. I need to be able to extract the manufacturer name from the > database and display that on

Re: [css-d] Site Check in IE5/Mac http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm

2008-03-05 Thread Alan Gresley
Philippe Wittenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:04 AM, David Laakso wrote: > > > http://css-class.com/test/beta-0-1.htm > > > > . > > Mac > > IE/5.2 screenshot: > > > > I can only suggest you seek a fix at Code Bitch or Philippe >

[css-d] problem in IE6 - footer falls apart

2008-03-05 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
Hey there people, Me and my friend were working on a new website and he came out with this layout: http://filez.kapati.net/public/aenima/ only problem so far that I noticed is that footer falls apart in IE6, I'm not sure why this happens. Also, in lower resolution top navigation slides together.