[css-d] Could browsers miss CSS declarations?

2008-05-06 Thread Usamah al-Amin
Hello, Browsers usually miss downloading images, due to some network issues. But I've never come to see browsers miss interpreting CSS declarations. Is that, technically speaking, possible? The most obvious example in my head is CSS background colors. Lets say this CSS style rule is declared on a

Re: [css-d] Could browsers miss CSS declarations?

2008-05-06 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Usamah al-Amin wrote: > Browsers usually miss downloading images, due to some network issues. "Usually" is a strong word, but I guess you are referring to some particular browsing conditions. > But I've never come to see browsers miss interpreting CSS > declarations. Is that, technically speaki

Re: [css-d] Could browsers miss CSS declarations?

2008-05-06 Thread Kathy Wheeler
On 06/05/2008, at 5:45 PM, Usamah al-Amin wrote: > body { > background: #dedede url(header.jpg) no-repeat top center; > } > > It could very possibly to miss downloading the header image, but could > it possible to miss applying the background color (#dedede) for some > odd reason? Check to

Re: [css-d] Trouble with positioning

2008-05-06 Thread Jonathan Pulley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah i think that does fix it. Ill take a look at the code somemore when i get to work but i opened it up on my wifes windows machine and it looks the same. Thanks a lot! I figured i needed to use floats but i was having trouble with getting them ri

[css-d] Expandable Divs

2008-05-06 Thread Chang Huang
Hi all, I have a situation where 2 divs are sitting next to each other (floated left and right), sometime the right div is not required and it is not shown, is it possible for the left div to take over that place left by the right div? Thanks. __

[css-d] HTML source editing in textarea for RTL languages

2008-05-06 Thread Lensco
Here's an issue that's been puzzling my mind for a few days: How do speakers of RTL languages use an online HTML source editor? Take this example: http://lensco.be/lensco.be/test/html_in_RTL_textarea/ It's nothing more than a bit of valid html inside a textarea. This is the way virtually all onlin

Re: [css-d] Implementing "float: center;"

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Richards
> > > No. I want fixed center, liquid secondary. > > Three versions (Georg Sortun) depending on the source > order you seek: > > > > > > > > Now this *is* what I want. W

[css-d] :: CSS Code Readibility ::

2008-05-06 Thread Amrinder
Hi, I was reading this article on Smashing Magazine which shows how to increase code readability, http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/05/02/improving-code-readability-with-css-styleguides/ but I have listened to Andy Clarke over Lynda.com saying that one should save the white space as it incre

Re: [css-d] :: CSS Code Readibility ::

2008-05-06 Thread Kepler Gelotte
> Which approach is better? Should we go for code readability > as described by Smashing Magazine or follow what Andy said. Hi, I have a free download which will compress your CSS files on the server automatically. This way you can develop as you normally would but when the user's brows

Re: [css-d] Implementing "float: center;"

2008-05-06 Thread Michael B Allen
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Mark Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > No. I want fixed center, liquid secondary. > > > > Three versions (Georg Sortun) depending on the source > > order you seek: > > > > > >

Re: [css-d] Implementing "float: center;"

2008-05-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Richards wrote: > When I saw this topic come up I was hoping to see a solution where > the "float:center" item has text flowing around both sides of the > item... In short: can't be done with CSS - yet. You can take IE/win's resizing weaknesses out of this...

Re: [css-d] : CSS Code Readibility ::

2008-05-06 Thread Alan K Baker
This is one of those 'Horses for Courses' arguments. Having been a programmer in machine code which had to fit onto 1K (yes 1K !!!) ROMs, I've been used to "byte fighting" and I've seen so called code optimisers, which have never been as good as the human hand. These days, life's much easier, b

Re: [css-d] Implementing "float: center;"

2008-05-06 Thread Michael B Allen
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Mark Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > No. I want fixed center, liquid secondary. > > > > > > Three versions (Georg Sortun) depending on the source > > > order you seek: >

[css-d] Vertical Align Bottom?

2008-05-06 Thread Matthew Stoneback
I wanted to thank everyone for their assistance with my most recent site check. I wanted to apologize about the HTML not validating, it was valid, then I made as few changes and forgot to re-validate it. I also took everyones' suggestions and change my font size to em from px. Now for my questio

Re: [css-d] Vertical Align Bottom?

2008-05-06 Thread David Laakso
Matthew Stoneback wrote: > I also took > everyones' suggestions and change my font size to em from px. > > Here is the HTML: http://www.eddysound.com/msc/ > > Here is the CSS: http://www.eddysound.com/msc/main.css > > > Matt > Add this to your style sheet to keep your em sized fonts from go

Re: [css-d] Vertical Align Bottom?

2008-05-06 Thread Rob Emenecker
> One other question. Why will my HTML not validate when I > have target="blank" in HTML 1.0 Strict? (If this is too far > off topic please ignore. I really want to know about the > above question.) > Assuming you mean "XHTML" 1.0 Strict, there is not "target" attribute to the A element

Re: [css-d] Gif and PNG with IE6

2008-05-06 Thread Wade Smart
ge is the path from > the style sheet, not from the HTML page. (Except in Netscape 4.) > > Cordially, > David 20080506 1254 GMT-6 That answered some problems. I didnt create the graphics so I opened them in GIMP and changed them to gif interlaced. That solved the problem for a few of

Re: [css-d] Scaling problem - and an IE6 problem

2008-05-06 Thread David Laakso
Peter Bradley wrote: > http://www.peredur.uklinux.net/PlaceForWords/ > > When I try to scale up or down (Ctrl+ or Ctrl-), the header stays the > same size. I've given it an explicit height of 16em and an implicit > width of 100%, and I was expecting it to scale, ems being scalable and > all tha

Re: [css-d] Implementing "float: center;"

2008-05-06 Thread Michael B Allen
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Someone wrote: > > > Granted that you may have a client that insists (probably against your > better judgement) that they want a pseudo 'float:center', but why do you > want to do it? > > Look at any newspaper or magazine and the text is always one side of an > imag

Re: [css-d] Scaling problem - and an IE6 problem

2008-05-06 Thread Peter Bradley
Ysgrifennodd David Laakso: > It may be just as well that the header image does not scale (except in > Opera) because it does not a pretty picture make when scaled-- > personal opinion of course. Others on the list can provide the methods > for it to scale images if you still want it to do so. Pe

Re: [css-d] Implementing "float: center;"

2008-05-06 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
The only way I can think of to achieve what you are after is with two or three divs, each with a %-based width, with the text broken up into left and right of the picture. If you have dynamic content, which I am guessing you do, that may not be practical. If you want text to the left of a picture

Re: [css-d] Implementing "float: center;"

2008-05-06 Thread rowland shepard
See http://developer.apple.com/internet/webcontent/bestwebdev.html. They call it "CSS with Minimal Tables". Nothing wrong with a little structure, and using tables is much easier and faster then divs and floating things about. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: [css-d] : CSS Code Readibility ::

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Richards
> Does it really matter if your visitors have to wait for a > page to load? It's getting off-topic but on a popular site reducing the size of any resources, including CSS files, can save money if you pay for bandwidth. Even if the user-experience isn't materially affected it may affect the site

[css-d] Overflow Hidden Headache

2008-05-06 Thread Chris Akins
I can't for the life of me figure out how to do what I'd like. I've tried several 3-col layouts that get very close to what I'd like to do. But one issue I can't figure out is how to have my round image in the upper right of the page IN the right hand column, but also have the top edge of it hang

Re: [css-d] Overflow Hidden Headache

2008-05-06 Thread Ingo Chao
Chris Akins wrote: > If I take out the overflow:hidden from the #container rule, then the top > looks fine, but the bottom of the page goes haywire. Did not look into it, but if overflow:hidden is meant to contain floats in these layouts (instead of literally cutting what is overflowing), then

Re: [css-d] Overflow Hidden Headache

2008-05-06 Thread Chris Akins
>From my not-so-advanced vantage point, it appears that the overflow:hidden is not being used so much to contain floats as there isn't but float in the #container div. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Ingo Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Akins wrote: > > > If I take out the overflow:hidden

[css-d] Could browsers miss CSS declarations?

2008-05-06 Thread Usamah al-Amin
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Jukka K. Korpela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Usually" is a strong word, but I guess you are referring to some > particular browsing conditions. > Firstly, thank you for the input Jukka, and my apology for replying late. Yes, I wrote the whole message in a

Re: [css-d] Could browsers miss CSS declarations?

2008-05-06 Thread Usamah al-Amin
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Kathy Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the body declaration is at the top of the style sheet and > everything is syntactically correct I'd be suspicious that the style > sheet itself is not loading - which usually comes back to path or > filename