Re: [css-d] help with 4 column css

2008-05-15 Thread Bill Brown
Carol Flax wrote: I'm trying to write a 4-column page and content in center columns is sliding under side columns. also - banner is sliding around when page is resized. help, please. I'm new to CSS and struggling. thanks! http://www2.whidbey.com/cflax/nwbaby_test/index.html Hi Carol, I

[css-d] Vertical menu

2008-05-15 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi I'm sorry for my english writing. I'm developing a site on a local computer. And found the menu i wanted here: sperling.com/examples/menuv/ But i can't get it to work in IE6 properly. The first menupoint is working ok, but the submenus are gone to cyperspace. In Opera 9 and Firefox 2, it

Re: [css-d] negative absolute positioning bad for SEO?

2008-05-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brian Campbell wrote: i've been using negative absolute positioning on text that i want hidden, but need to be accessible to alternate devices. someone has suggested that the text won't be seen by bots (like google) so it won't be processed and can't be utilized for SEO purposes. in your

Re: [css-d] Vertical menu

2008-05-15 Thread Alan K Baker
Your English writing is fine. :-) I can't understand why you can't get the menu to work in IE6. It works fine for me. Perhaps you have a modified code that needs to be inspected? Can you upload it somewhere and send me the URL? Yes, you can make the sub-menus pop out from right to left by

Re: [css-d] help with 4 column css

2008-05-15 Thread David Laakso
Carol Flax wrote: I'm trying to write a 4-column page and content in center columns is sliding under side columns. also - banner is sliding around when page is resized. help, please. I'm new to CSS and struggling. thanks! http://www2.whidbey.com/cflax/nwbaby_test/index.html Carol,

Re: [css-d] help with 4 column css

2008-05-15 Thread Bill Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill, Since css-discuss is a teaching list... and I'm a newbie too... could you send me the css that corrected the problem below? Thanks a bunch!! Susan Sure thing! In this case, the source was ultimately the real problem, not so much the CSS.

Re: [css-d] Vertical menu

2008-05-15 Thread tedd
At 10:21 AM +0200 5/15/08, Ib Jensen wrote: Hi I'm sorry for my english writing. I'm developing a site on a local computer. And found the menu i wanted here: sperling.com/examples/menuv/ But i can't get it to work in IE6 properly. The first menupoint is working ok, but the submenus are gone

Re: [css-d] negative absolute positioning bad for SEO?

2008-05-15 Thread tedd
At 2:00 PM +1000 5/15/08, Blake wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Brian Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been using negative absolute positioning on text that i want hidden, but need to be accessible to alternate devices. someone has suggested that the text won't be seen by bots

Re: [css-d] negative absolute positioning bad for SEO?

2008-05-15 Thread Bill Brown
At 2:00 PM +1000 5/15/08, Blake wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Brian Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been using negative absolute positioning on text that i want hidden, but need to be accessible to alternate devices. someone has suggested that the text won't be seen by

[css-d] [ADMIN] Re: negative absolute positioning bad for SEO?

2008-05-15 Thread Alex Robinson
As far as I know, Bob Easton was credited with the off-left technique -- here's what happened to him: http://www.access-matters.com/2008/04/19/off-left-banned-by-google/ It's something to consider. What? Not letting your site get hacked? Tedd, I think you've missed the punchline of Bob's post

Re: [css-d] Which is the best solution min-width and max-width in ie6 ?

2008-05-15 Thread Mark Story
Dal wrote: Hello, I have never used min-max---width-height properties before, but I need to use it now. I have found many solutions on web for ie6 and I am confused now. Which is the best solution to impliment these properties in ie6 ? Thanks. Dal I've always resorted to used

[css-d] site check -- IE6 problems

2008-05-15 Thread Rob Emenecker
Hi all, The following site is working fine in IE7 and Firefox 2, but breaks down in IE6. Specifically the page sections containing the navigation bar and the content, are not filling down the page and stopping at the footer, along with scroll bars not appearing per the overflow: auto property on

Re: [css-d] site check -- IE6 problems

2008-05-15 Thread Rob Emenecker
Okay... it's definitely one of those days... here is the URL that was missing from my previous missive... www.areteam.com ...Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Emenecker Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:18 AM To:

Re: [css-d] site check -- IE6 problems

2008-05-15 Thread Chris Hardie
Hi Rob, You're using a lot of absolute positioning, which can be tricky. It looks like you're trying to tile an image on #page-bg-body a la faux columns. But check out what happens when you add a border to it: style #page-bg-body {border:1px solid red;} /style In IE, it has no height

[css-d] Menu Positioning Question

2008-05-15 Thread Sohail Aboobaker
Hi, We have a design which has two sets of menus and we would like to give every designer control on laying out the menus using their own CSS. The HTML that we are looking at is extremely simple. --- div id=Menu2 ul lia href=#Home/a/li lia href=#Contact us/a/li

[css-d] Partially Visible Text In IE7

2008-05-15 Thread Brant Burnett
I have a dynamic page which is being generated. I've avoided using tables for non-tabular content (except for a couple of ASP.NET controls I can't change). However, for some reason the text for the movie title on the very last one doesn't always render correctly in IE7. I can't find any

[css-d] top border for list items not showing in ie

2008-05-15 Thread Barb @ BITS LLC
Hi - On this page -- http://www.rochesterhistory.org/about/ -- all the left hand navigational elements have a horizontal line between them. This is done by adding a border-top property. #sidebar ul li a {style.css (line 128) border-top:0.05px solid #EFAA7D; color:#FF; display:block;

[css-d] Style Naming Convention

2008-05-15 Thread Sohail Aboobaker
Hi, We need to design an HTML page which provides flexibility for UI designers to add skin this HTM using their CSS design. The question is about naming convention for the text styles. One way is use names like: contentHeading contentDescription contentLabel contentBody ... The designers would

Re: [css-d] Partially Visible Text In IE7

2008-05-15 Thread Chris Hardie
Hi Brant, Hope this helps: .capacitylisttitle { font-size: 2em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; display:inline-block; } You may want to look into paring down the number of classes you have. Check out the section on classitis and divitis, it will help you simplify your code:

Re: [css-d] Partially Visible Text In IE7

2008-05-15 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
Seems like something related to the Peekaboo bug. If the display of the last link is cut and you give it the focus, the link is repainted again and then complete. If you then hover one of the links in the left menu, the last link gets cut again. Maybe the technique desribed here helps:

Re: [css-d] Partially Visible Text In IE7

2008-05-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brant Burnett wrote: However, for some reason the text for the movie title on the very last one doesn't always render correctly in IE7. http://ppointe.pfestore.com/capacity/titles/ComingSoon.aspx The IE/win 'stacking bug' is at play. Try adding... a {position: relative;} ...to get the links

Re: [css-d] Partially Visible Text In IE7

2008-05-15 Thread Brant Burnett
Chris, Thanks, that worked great. And I agree about the number of CSS classes, but it is an application for use by multiple clients that need to be able to style it to look like their primary website, so I need a lot of CSS hooks for customization. Thanks again. Brant Burnett Pathfinder

Re: [css-d] Partially Visible Text In IE7

2008-05-15 Thread Chris Hardie
Hi Brant, Can you not use descendent selectors instead? I have done a lot of government work where we have a common layout for all sites, but each site can have a distinct skin. What we did is create a heavily commented CSS file that demonstrates how to apply different styles to different

Re: [css-d] help with 4 column css

2008-05-15 Thread Carol Flax
Carol Flax wrote: I'm trying to write a 4-column page and content in center columns is sliding under side columns. also - banner is sliding around when page is resized. help, please. I'm new to CSS and struggling. thanks! http://www2.whidbey.com/cflax/nwbaby_test/index.html Carol, The

Re: [css-d] top border for list items not showing in ie

2008-05-15 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Thu, May 15, 2008 4:44 pm, Barb @ BITS LLC wrote: Hi - On this page -- http://www.rochesterhistory.org/about/ -- all the left hand navigational elements have a horizontal line between them. This is done by adding a border-top property. border-top:0.05px solid #EFAA7D; This shows in

[css-d] mysterious letter appearing only in IE6

2008-05-15 Thread Sandy
There is something really mysterious going on here in IE6. In the top right there is a menu and in IE6, and ONLY in IE6, the letter e appears like a fourth link in the menu. http://raidesign.ca/test/test.html css: http://raidesign.ca/test/css/br.css http://raidesign.ca/test/css/ie6-hacks.css

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing only in IE6

2008-05-15 Thread Joel D Canfield
In the top right there is a menu and in IE6, and ONLY in IE6, the letter e appears like a fourth link in the menu. http://raidesign.ca/test/test.html in my copy of IE6 (on WinXP) there's nothing at all above the large image, which is jammed right against the top of the window. my

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing only in IE6

2008-05-15 Thread Sandy
In the top right there is a menu and in IE6, and ONLY in IE6, the letter e appears like a fourth link in the menu. http://raidesign.ca/test/test.html in my copy of IE6 (on WinXP) there's nothing at all above the large image, which is jammed right against the top of the window. my

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing only in IE6

2008-05-15 Thread David Laakso
Sandy wrote: In the top right there is a menu and in IE6, and ONLY in IE6, the letter e appears like a fourth link in the menu. http://raidesign.ca/test/test.html Sandy It is an IE/6 (duplicate characters) bug. If you are /lucky/ it may simply mean removal of one or more comments

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing only in IE6

2008-05-15 Thread Sandy
Sandy wrote: In the top right there is a menu and in IE6, and ONLY in IE6, the letter e appears like a fourth link in the menu. http://raidesign.ca/test/test.html Sandy It is an IE/6 (duplicate characters) bug. If you are /lucky/ it may simply mean removal of one or more

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing only in IE6

2008-05-15 Thread Kepler Gelotte
There is something really mysterious going on here in IE6. Hi Sandy, I am not sure this is an IE6 bug. I am looking at your web site using firefox 2 and the top is shifted way off my screen. The problem is your outermost div (horizon) has top:50%; while the next div (container) inside has

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing only in IE6

2008-05-15 Thread Sandy
There is something really mysterious going on here in IE6. Hi Sandy, I am not sure this is an IE6 bug. I am looking at your web site using firefox 2 and the top is shifted way off my screen. The problem is your outermost div (horizon) has top:50%; while the next div (container)

[css-d] mysterious letter appearing in GECKO

2008-05-15 Thread Rick Pasotto
I also have a mysterious letter I've been unable to track down. http://monday6o.org/attend2.php It's the letter 'i' appearing just above the table and to the right of the menu column. It is not in the html. -- Where are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket? Rick Pasotto

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing in GECKO

2008-05-15 Thread Cory Shubert
I see it, I see it... Right under the div id=main tag I see a i all by itself. Cory -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Pasotto Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:04 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] mysterious letter

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing in GECKO

2008-05-15 Thread Bryce Fields
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also have a mysterious letter I've been unable to track down. http://monday6o.org/attend2.php It's the letter 'i' appearing just above the table and to the right of the menu column. It is not in the html. Look at the

Re: [css-d] mysterious letter appearing in GECKO

2008-05-15 Thread Cory Shubert
I should say that in Firebug it shows, but in the HTML it doesn't. Must be a space or some character that WORD put in or one of the oddities... Just backspace that table id=attend right up to the div id of main to remove it. Cory -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Select tag based on descendant tag attribute?

2008-05-15 Thread Tawnya
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Re: [css-d] Select tag based on descendant tag attribute?

2008-05-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Tawnya wrote: With the given information, the answer is no, you can't select an element on the basis of inner markup (like an attribute of a descendant) [...] Yesterday I came across code examples that allowed CSS rendering of specific image elements referenced to their width and height

[css-d] Movable content

2008-05-15 Thread Andrew Doades
Not sure if this is a css question or now but I can not think of anywhere else to look... On the new www.bbc.co.uk website and igoogle you have the ability to move the objects around, anyone know how the heck I do that? Cheers, Andrew

Re: [css-d] site check -- IE6 problems

2008-05-15 Thread Rob Emenecker
Hi Chris, Thanks for the info. The general layout of the site, and the use of the AP divs, is to accomplish two very simple -- or what is simple with IE7 and FF2 -- things. First, the header and the footer regions get glued to the top and bottom of the viewport. This is working in IE6 okay as

Re: [css-d] Movable content

2008-05-15 Thread Bill Brown
Andrew Doades wrote: Not sure if this is a css question or now but I can not think of anywhere else to look... On the new www.bbc.co.uk website and igoogle you have the ability to move the objects around, anyone know how the heck I do that? Hi Andrew, This is not actually CSS, though CSS

Re: [css-d] site check -- IE6 problems

2008-05-15 Thread Bill Brown
Last, I do know that the BOTTOM property is being honored, where I'm not trying to stretch something to fill the viewport, because the footer is fixed to the bottom of the viewport as it should be. Hi Rob, Nice site. I like the overall look and feel, now...onto your troubles. Your problem

Re: [css-d] site check -- IE6 problems

2008-05-15 Thread Rob Emenecker
Cool Bill, Thanks! That gives me a possible sense of direction, which is what I was looking for. I'll let you know how it works out. (Worst case scenario -- as I mentioned to Chris in an off-list message -- is that I could dynamically rewrite the HEIGHT property value in IE6 using Javascript

[css-d] star hack /tan hack or what ? a question...

2008-05-15 Thread corey deep
Hello, I have used hack for ie6 : div.someclass { width: 300px; * width: 320px; } which is it is different than the standard star selector hack, i.e. * html div.someclass { width: 320px; } what is the first example called ? is it an improper interpretation of the star selector hack. I

Re: [css-d] star hack /tan hack or what ? a question...

2008-05-15 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 15 May 2008 16:32:54 -0700, corey deep wrote: Hello, I have used hack for ie6 : div.someclass { width: 300px; * width: 320px; } which is it is different than the standard star selector hack, i.e. * html div.someclass { width: 320px; } what is the first example called ? is

[css-d] Standard filling column space problem ...

2008-05-15 Thread Michael B Allen
I know you get this question every few days but my layout seems to be unique enough that I still can't get the right column in my three column layout to fill out the background color(s): http://www.ioplex.com/~miallen/t12.html I'm hoping someone can look at this and point out a simple

Re: [css-d] star hack /tan hack or what ? a question...

2008-05-15 Thread Glen Barber
FWIW - you can also target IE 5 - 6 and leave IE 7 alone by using an underscore instead of a star. I wish I knew about this hack earlier in the week. ;) However, I notice you both specify 'width:' declarations. Does this hack work with 'height:' as well? -- Glen Barber

[css-d] Menu Positioning Question

2008-05-15 Thread Sohail Aboobaker
Hi, We have a design which has two sets of menus and we would like to give every designer control on laying out the menus using their own CSS. The HTML that we are looking at is extremely simple. --- div id=Menu2 ul lia href=#Home/a/li lia href=#Contact us/a/li

Re: [css-d] star hack /tan hack or what ? a question...

2008-05-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Glen Barber wrote: I wish I knew about this hack earlier in the week. ;) However, I notice you both specify 'width:' declarations. Does this hack work with 'height:' as well? Sure. IE5 - 7 eats most non-valid character you can think of in front of any property-name...

[css-d] Reduce space above characters?

2008-05-15 Thread Michael B Allen
Is there any way to reduce the space above characters. Consider the following: http://www.ioplex.com/~miallen/t14.html Setting line-height: 0.5; has no effect on the space above Apples. There's at least 4 whole pixels above the A and l in this example. Is there any way to reduce that? Mike

Re: [css-d] Reduce space above characters?

2008-05-15 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Is there any way to reduce the space above characters. Hi Mike, You are setting the line-height on a span element. Spanned elements are inline and that is why it is ignoring line-height. Try a block element like div or p instead. If you want the background to fit just the content, float the

Re: [css-d] help with 4 column css

2008-05-15 Thread David Laakso
Carol Flax wrote: I'm trying to write a 4-column page and content in center columns is sliding under side columns. also - banner is sliding around when page is resized. help, please. I'm new to CSS and struggling. thanks! http://www2.whidbey.com/cflax/nwbaby_test/index.html Please

Re: [css-d] Reduce space above characters?

2008-05-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael B Allen wrote: Is there any way to reduce the space above characters. Consider the following: http://www.ioplex.com/~miallen/t14.html Setting line-height: 0.5; has no effect on the space above Apples. There's at least 4 whole pixels above the A and l in this example. Is there

[css-d] Last-minute question

2008-05-15 Thread Richard Grevers
I just remembered that I had to reapply min/Max width expressions for the 3 container elements of a website and I discovered that IE6 is doing strange things with the companion column as a result (On a window wider than 1440px it extends the white background of the content colum to the left by the

[css-d] problem with vertical menu list

2008-05-15 Thread jasmin
Hi, I’m using the below vertical menu list but unfortunately when a menu item is clicked to produce an ‘active state’, it doesn’t remain on when the user clicks on other links on the web page. As soon as you click on any other links the ‘active menu state’ reverts to a ‘normal state’. Can