Re: [css-d] The CSS Position Property

2010-12-16 Thread Alan Gresley
On 16/12/2010 6:28 PM, Chetan Crasta wrote: @Thierry: Happy to help. the element is taken out of flow, thus float is rendered impotent @Barney: It doesn't necessarily follow that because the element is out of the flow, float cannot work. If the spec hadn't disallowed it, it would be

Re: [css-d] The CSS Position Property

2010-12-16 Thread Barney Carroll
Chetan, Philippe: http://barneycarroll.com/floatAndPos.html Assigned float properties are computed, they just don't take effect. Regards, Barney Carroll barney.carr...@gmail.com 07594 506 381 On 16 December 2010 10:12, Alan Gresley a...@css-class.com wrote: On 16/12/2010 6:28 PM, Chetan

Re: [css-d] The CSS Position Property

2010-12-16 Thread Chetan Crasta
It not that the spec disallowed it The spec did explicitly disallow it, see point number 2: http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-CSS2-20090423/visuren.html#dis-pos-flo Absolutely positioned boxes are taken out of the normal flow The phrase taken out of the flow is used a bit loosely in the spec. Both

Re: [css-d] The CSS Position Property

2010-12-16 Thread Chetan Crasta
http://barneycarroll.com/floatAndPos.html Assigned float properties are computed, they just don't take effect. Firebug shows computed value of float as none on an element with position:absolute and float:left or float:right ~Chetan

[css-d] Box dropping down behind footer in IE7

2010-12-16 Thread David Roberts
Hi I have a box on the home page (http://fattoad.co.uk/) which is dropping below the footer in IE7 and cutting off some of the text. There should be 30px between the box and the footer. I have tried a number of different tactics but can't get anything to work. Many thanks, David

Re: [css-d] The CSS Position Property

2010-12-16 Thread Alan Gresley
On 16/12/2010 9:39 PM, Chetan Crasta wrote: It not that the spec disallowed it The spec did explicitly disallow it, see point number 2: http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-CSS2-20090423/visuren.html#dis-pos-flo Thank you, I was looking for that. Absolutely positioned boxes are taken out of the

Re: [css-d] The CSS Position Property

2010-12-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Chetan Crasta wrote: It not that the spec disallowed it The spec did explicitly disallow it, see point number 2: http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-CSS2-20090423/visuren.html#dis-pos-flo Better to quote the latest text:

[css-d] outdenting 1st line?

2010-12-16 Thread Rory Bernstein
Is there a way to use CSS to outdent some text? I will have a list of items (vertical). Some items will be short enough to fit on 1 line. Some will wrap; to clarify that those wrapped items are 1 item and not 2 separate items, I want to outdent the first line, 2nd line would be indented. Like

Re: [css-d] Box dropping down behind footer in IE7

2010-12-16 Thread Chetan Crasta
Give div#inner_wrap a height of around 1100px. The testimonial is getting cutoff because the height of 1015px is insufficient. ~Chetan __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d

Re: [css-d] outdenting 1st line?

2010-12-16 Thread Camilo Kawerín
Hi, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Rory Bernstein r...@rorybernstein.comwrote: Is there a way to use CSS to outdent some text? I will have a list of items (vertical). Some items will be short enough to fit on 1 line. Some will wrap; to clarify that those wrapped items are 1 item and not 2

[css-d] help with absolute positioning?

2010-12-16 Thread Rory Bernstein
Hi again, I am not able to figure out how to position some text on top of a photo (don't want to use the photo as a background image). On this page: http://www.grassrootsfitness.com/ The graphic with the drums that has the orange text trial class week is the part I am working on. I want the

Re: [css-d] help with absolute positioning?

2010-12-16 Thread Camilo Kawerín
Hi again, I am not able to figure out how to position some text on top of a photo (don't want to use the photo as a background image). On this page: http://www.grassrootsfitness.com/ The graphic with the drums that has the orange text trial class week is the part I am working on. I want

[css-d] Anchor tags and ability of browser window to scroll

2010-12-16 Thread Alan Chandler
I have been struggling for a few days with a problem related to using anchor tags. The page is question is here http://www.hartley-consultants.com/forum/index.php/board,1.0.html where the Go Up and Go Down links at the bottom and top of the list of forum topics are causing problems. The

Re: [css-d] Anchor tags and ability of browser window to scroll

2010-12-16 Thread Claude Needham
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk wrote: I have been struggling for a few days with a problem related to using anchor tags. The page is question is here http://www.hartley-consultants.com/forum/index.php/board,1.0.html The are links (ie a href=#topGo

Re: [css-d] Anchor tags and ability of browser window to scroll

2010-12-16 Thread Alan Chandler
On 16/12/10 19:50, Claude Needham wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk wrote: I have been struggling for a few days with a problem related to using anchor tags. The page is question is here

Re: [css-d] Anchor tags and ability of browser window to scroll

2010-12-16 Thread Susanne Jäger
Alan Chandler wrote: http://www.hartley-consultants.com/forum/index.php/board,1.0.html where the Go Up and Go Down links at the bottom and top of the list of forum topics are causing problems. The are links (ie a href=#topGo Up/a to anchors of the form a id=top/a When I have jumped via these

Re: [css-d] CSS Frameworks

2010-12-16 Thread David Hucklesby
On 12/15/10 11:50 PM, Joseba Roldan wrote: Hi all, I've just discovered the amazing world of CSS frameworks. I've been using 960Grid so far and I think is pretty good. Anyway, do you know any other recommendable CSS framework? Rather than relying on one particular framework, I suggest

Re: [css-d] Box dropping down behind footer in IE7

2010-12-16 Thread David Hucklesby
On 12/16/10 10:28 AM, Chetan Crasta wrote re: http://fattoad.co.uk/ Give div#inner_wrap a height of around 1100px. The testimonial is getting cutoff because the height of 1015px is insufficient. FWIW I generally find that min-height works better than plain height in a majority of cases. (And

Re: [css-d] Anchor tags and ability of browser window to scroll

2010-12-16 Thread Alan Chandler
On 16/12/10 20:10, Susanne Jäger wrote: Alan Chandler wrote: http://www.hartley-consultants.com/forum/index.php/board,1.0.html where the Go Up and Go Down links at the bottom and top of the list of forum topics are causing problems. The are links (ie a href=#topGo Up/a to anchors of the form

Re: [css-d] min-height best-practices

2010-12-16 Thread Claude Needham
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:23 PM, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/10 10:28 AM, Chetan Crasta wrote re: http://fattoad.co.uk/ Give div#inner_wrap a height of around 1100px. The testimonial is getting cutoff because the height of 1015px is insufficient. FWIW I generally

Re: [css-d] outdenting 1st line?

2010-12-16 Thread Rory Bernstein
Well, that does the trick! Exactly what I wanted. Thank you SO MUCH! Mission accomplished, Rory On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Camilo Kawerín wrote: Hi, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Rory Bernstein r...@rorybernstein.com wrote: Is there a way to use CSS to outdent some text? I will

Re: [css-d] help with absolute positioning?

2010-12-16 Thread Rory Bernstein
This was the perfect solution. I love it. Now I have to play with the text styles so that the text on the photo reads better. But that's easy! Thank you! Rory On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Camilo Kawerín wrote: This works fine for me: div style=position: relative; id=home-promo1

Re: [css-d] outdenting 1st line?

2010-12-16 Thread Reese
At 13:20 16 12 10, Rory Bernstein wrote: Is there a way to use CSS to outdent some text? I will have a list of items (vertical). Some items will be short enough to fit on 1 line. Some will wrap; to clarify that those wrapped items are 1 item and not 2 separate items, I want to outdent the

[css-d] is style=float: left identical to align=left

2010-12-16 Thread Ingo Chao
for images, in standards mode, for ie6 and newer, is style=float: left identical to align=left , even in complex layouts? background is, someone required to support legacy HTML content fragments -- or to migrate it, as long as the rendered result is identical, to a new technology named CSS. best

[css-d] CSS Templates 1: Outside The Box

2010-12-16 Thread Gabriele Romanato
During my work I spend a lot of time searching for CSS templates, and I'm always struck by the fact that __all__ the templates I find are non-semantical and with enormous fixed widths... I know that if you want to post something on Theme Forest you have to stick to pixels and divitis but,

[css-d] is style=float: left identical to align=left

2010-12-16 Thread Ingo Chao
for images, in standards mode, for ie6 and newer, is style=float: left identical to align=left , even in complex layouts? background is, someone required to support legacy HTML content fragments -- or to migrate it, as long as the rendered result is identical, to a new technology named CSS. best

Re: [css-d] CSS Templates 1: Outside The Box

2010-12-16 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Gabriele, why does DOLOR overlay power of combining when I reduce the width of the window ? Is that truly fluid ? Philip Taylor Gabriele Romanato wrote: Here's my first, basic test/demo: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/12/css-templates-outside-box.html comments are welcome,

Re: [css-d] CSS Templates 1: Outside The Box

2010-12-16 Thread Greg Wilker
I'm interested in responses to this aspect: There are currently a lot of validation errors with the template; both css and xhtml. My personal rule of thumb is to get as close to validation as possible - shooting for perfect. Now and then I question the strictness of my train of thought.

Re: [css-d] [Solved]Anchor tags and ability of browser window to scroll

2010-12-16 Thread Alan Chandler
On 16/12/10 20:31, Alan Chandler wrote: On 16/12/10 20:10, Susanne Jäger wrote: Alan Chandler wrote: http://www.hartley-consultants.com/forum/index.php/board,1.0.html where the Go Up and Go Down links at the bottom and top of the list of forum topics are causing problems. The are links (ie

Re: [css-d] CSS Templates 1: Outside The Box

2010-12-16 Thread David Laakso
On 12/16/10 5:20 PM, Gabriele Romanato wrote: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/12/css-templates-outside-box.html comments are welcome... HTH Test more, for example... 1/ 640 window 2/ 800 window 3/ FF @ minimum font-size 24. 4/ Opera @ minimum font-size 32. 5/ Monitor the character plus

Re: [css-d] is style=float: left identical to align=left

2010-12-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Dec 17, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Ingo Chao wrote: for images, in standards mode, for ie6 and newer, is style=float: left identical to align=left , even in complex layouts? background is, someone required to support legacy HTML content fragments -- or to migrate it, as long as the rendered

Re: [css-d] CSS Templates 1: Outside The Box

2010-12-16 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Gabriele Romanato wrote: During my work I spend a lot of time searching for CSS templates, and I'm always struck by the fact that __all__ the templates I find are non-semantical and with enormous fixed widths... I know that if you want to post something on Theme Forest

Re: [css-d] CSS Templates 1: Outside The Box

2010-12-16 Thread G.Sørtun
Object: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/12/css-templates-outside-box.html On 17.12.2010 00:22, Greg Wilker wrote: There are currently a lot of validation errors with the template; both css and xhtml. Source code claim to be HTML 5, and as such there's nothing wrong with validity, just a

Re: [css-d] CSS Templates 1: Outside The Box

2010-12-16 Thread Alan Gresley
On 17/12/2010 12:57 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Gabriele Romanato wrote: [snip] http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/12/css-templates-outside-box.html comments are welcome, improvements either. criticisms are too easy with me... I'm a psycho workaholic!

Re: [css-d] is style=float: left identical to align=left

2010-12-16 Thread Ingo Chao
Am Freitag, 17. Dezember 2010 schrieb Philippe Wittenbergh e...@l-c-n.com: On Dec 17, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Ingo Chao wrote: for images, in standards mode, for ie6 and newer, is style=float: left identical to align=left , even in complex layouts? ... Yes, that is the case in all browsers. I

Re: [css-d] min-height best-practices

2010-12-16 Thread Chetan Crasta
I am hoping that someone might be able to point to a good source of info on proper use of min-height This is a good reference on min-height: http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/min-height ~Chetan __ css-discuss

[css-d] Help with IE6 and #*? Box Model

2010-12-16 Thread Beth Lee
Hi all, I'm moving a site from tables into html5 and css, and onto WordPress. The head of the organization is concerned that the front page drops the 2 rows of 3 images out of alignment in her browser, which is ... AOL. Aargh. I've added a conditional statement to serve iecss.css to IE6, and

Re: [css-d] Help with IE6 and #*? Box Model

2010-12-16 Thread Beth Lee
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Beth Lee callib...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm moving a site from tables into html5 and css, and onto WordPress. The head of the organization is concerned that the front page drops the 2 rows of 3 images out of alignment in her browser, which is ... AOL.

Re: [css-d] min-height best-practices

2010-12-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Dec 17, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Claude Needham wrote: I am hoping that someone might be able to point to a good source of info on proper use of min-height so that I don't open a can of worms with cross-browser issues or other gotchas. The spec is a good start :-) see 10.7:

Re: [css-d] Help with IE6 and #*? Box Model

2010-12-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Dec 17, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Beth Lee wrote: 'm moving a site from tables into html5 and css, and onto WordPress. The head of the organization is concerned that the front page drops the 2 rows of 3 images out of alignment in her browser, which is ... AOL. The site is using the html5

Re: [css-d] Help with IE6 and #*? Box Model

2010-12-16 Thread G.Sørtun
http://ohalah.org/wp/index.php While you're fixing IE6, note that you have serious typos in the IE6 stylesheet link in that page... link href=link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=all href=http://ohalah.org/wp/wp-content/themes/o-twentyten/iecss.css; rel=stylesheet type=text/css

Re: [css-d] min-height best-practices

2010-12-16 Thread Claude Needham
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Chetan Crasta chetancra...@gmail.com wrote: This is a good reference on min-height: http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/min-height On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh e...@l-c-n.com wrote: The spec is a good start :-) see 10.7: