Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Philip Taylor
Karl DeSaulniers wrote: By calculating what size your website is naturally without responsiveness? 100% of window width. But since you cannot know what the window width is, you are no closer to being able to map from the number of px to a percentage, are you ? Philip Taylor

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Philip Taylor
MiB wrote: That’s not what I said. Try again. You said you can translate from px sizing to percentages. I pointed out that, in general, you cannot. I am still waiting for you to demonstrate how you can. Philip Taylor __

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 09:12 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: MiB wrote: That’s not what I said. Try again. You said you can translate from px sizing to percentages. I pointed out that, in general, you cannot. I am still waiting for you to demonstrate how you can. And I won’t since what I

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Philip Taylor
MiB wrote: you can translate from px sizing to percentages I’ll answer specific questions, not your erroneous assumptions. Fine, here's a specific question : How would you translate from 16px to a percentage ? Philip Taylor

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 10:49 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: MiB wrote: you can translate from px sizing to percentages I’ll answer specific questions, not your erroneous assumptions. Fine, here's a specific question : How would you translate from 16px to a percentage” ? Give the context.

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 10:49 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: MiB wrote: you can translate from px sizing to percentages I’ll answer specific questions, not your erroneous assumptions. Fine, here's a specific question : How would you translate from 16px to a percentage” ? Unfortunately I must

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 11:08 MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com: Grids are not hocus locus. Grids are not hocus pocus either. OS X’s canning ability to invisibly (erroneously) correct me is very irritating. Probably solveable, but no time. :P

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Philip Taylor
MiB wrote: Unfortunately I must do work now, but the (classic) basic context-aware formula is target ÷ context = result. But when your context is 100% and your target is 16px (or any other number of px), what then ? Philip Taylor

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 01:14 Crest Christopher crestchristop...@gmail.com: You can use pixels instead of percentages for a fluid layout ? You can use pixels for the parts of the grid you want to be inflexible, like gutters. This will break relative relationships so must be handled with care.

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 11:17 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: But when your context is 100% and your target is 16px (or any other number of px), what then ? I refuse to answer any more questions like this one form you until you have read the article I linked to. What part of ”will explain it all”

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Philip Taylor
MiB wrote: What part of ”will explain it all” did you not like? The part where you consistently avoid my question. Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 11:25 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: MiB wrote: What part of ”will explain it all” did you not like? The part where you consistently avoid my question. So you admit being a troll? You’re not here to learn and share knowledge, like the a majority of the other members?

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Philip Taylor
MiB wrote: You clearly [...] want to waste my time and the readers of this email discussion list. On the contrary, I want to challenge your assertion that you can translate from px sizing to percentages for all but the most trivial of cases. If /everything/ was originally expressed in

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 12:20 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: On the contrary, I want to challenge your assertion that you can translate from px sizing to percentages for all but the most trivial of cases. If /everything/ was originally expressed in pixels, then of course you can translate from

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
I have to agree with Philip here. If you don't know context you can use the formula you referenced. That, I believe, is his point. Viewport width is not something you will know. If, for example, you know your content will be a max-width of 960px, then you can work off of that in the formula.

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
Sorry, that should read If you don't know context you CAN'T use the formula... Another victim of auto correct... On Monday, October 20, 2014, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: I have to agree with Philip here. If you don't know context you can use the formula you referenced. That, I

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread David Laakso
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Crest Christopher crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote: I have a css grid question..[trimmed] Thanks Christopher Christopher, This does not answer your specific questions. It is simply a coded example of a three column responsive grid layout. Variations of

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread David Laakso
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 6:39 AM, David Laakso laakso.davi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Crest Christopher crestchristop...@gmail.com wrote: I have a css grid question..[trimmed] Thanks Christopher Christopher, This does not answer your specific questions. It is

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
On Monday, October 20, 2014, MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com wrote: okt 20 2014 12:20 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk javascript:;: On the contrary, I want to challenge your assertion that you can translate from px sizing to percentages for all but the most trivial of cases. If

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Philip Taylor
MiB wrote: Consider context, not only when translating pixel-expressed designs, but also when reading this list. Make context explicit as a part of your assertions, don't rely on others inferring it. Study the pragmatics of discourse. Philip Taylor

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 12:32 Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com: I have to agree with Philip here. If you don't know context you can use the formula you referenced. That, I believe, is his point. Viewport width is not something you will know. Agree on the obvious, you mean? In the given example, the

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 12:56 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: Make context explicit as a part of your assertions, don't rely on others inferring it. Study the pragmatics of discourse. Yes Philip, I’ll assume you don’t read all relevant posts in the thread you’re posting in, in the future.

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
On Monday, October 20, 2014, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, October 20, 2014, MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','digital.disc...@gmail.com'); wrote: okt 20 2014 12:20 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: On the contrary, I want to challenge your

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 13:02 Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com: Even given that, mixing units is going to cause issues, especially for those just learning. I recommend using percentage for all, as in David L's example. That’s a good start, but percentage values does have to be controlled to not yield

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread MiB
okt 20 2014 12:57 MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com: If it’s 978 px, the element width will be based on that and if it’s 500px or 1200px it will be base on those numbers. I should have used plural ”widths” here, as the width property is of course only a part of the width an element will take

Re: [css-d] Links in Academic style reference list some times not working

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Rockwell
This doesn't appear to be related to CSS. I would look first to the CMS WYSIWYG as it appears to be stripping the href from the first a tag (from what I see, this is consistent although your question states some times). If you're using a WYSIWYG, try writing some markup that should work and

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
On Monday, October 20, 2014, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/20/14, 2:16 AM, MiB wrote: okt 20 2014 11:08 MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com: Grids are not hocus locus. I’m giving this response a Like :) Magic plague ;-) -- Tom Livingston | Senior Front-End

Re: [css-d] Grid System

2014-10-20 Thread David Hucklesby
On 10/20/14, 2:16 AM, MiB wrote: okt 20 2014 11:08 MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com: Grids are not hocus locus. I’m giving this response a Like :) -- Cordially, David __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org]

Re: [css-d] Links in Academic style reference list some times not working

2014-10-20 Thread Øyvind Teig
Chris! GREAT! It works! I have updated on http://www.teigfam.net/oyvind/home/technology/061-wordpress/#academic_style_reference_list I also have updated on my longest list:http://www.teigfam.net/oyvind/home/technology/072-pike-sutter-concurrency-vs-concurrency/#References THANK YOU! But I

[css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread John
at this link http://www.coffeeonmars.com/category/illustration/, the image of the carburetors is being pushed downward; my goal is to have it top-aligned with the two little paragraphs. both that text and that picture are contained in the same container div which has overflow:hidden; So I’m

Re: [css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
Actually, in Chrome dev tools, i see .sample-summary div wrapping only the two little paragraphs. And the p wrapping the imgs is 100% width; On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:43 PM, John j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote: at this link http://www.coffeeonmars.com/category/illustration/, the image of the

Re: [css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread John
On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, in Chrome dev tools, i see .sample-summary div wrapping only the two little paragraphs. And the p wrapping the imgs is 100% width; Here is with that p with a red line around it.. the container div which I thought

Re: [css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread John
On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:55 PM, John j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote: Here is with that p with a red line around it.. the container div which I thought was containing text (left) and picture (meant to be to the right) does span 100% but that image isn’t havin’ it.. John This is the link I

Re: [css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
.sample-summary is 100% width, and is holding the images down. In Chrome dev tools, I was able to add a style to .sample-summary as so: width: 30%; Float:left; and to the child ps, width: 100%; The images then came up to the top of the green div. On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:55 PM, John

Re: [css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread John
On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: .sample-summary is 100% width, and is holding the images down. In Chrome dev tools, I was able to add a style to .sample-summary as so: width: 30%; Float:left; and to the child ps, width: 100%; The images then came

Re: [css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, John j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote: On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: .sample-summary is 100% width, and is holding the images down. In Chrome dev tools, I was able to add a style to .sample-summary as so: width: 30%;

Re: [css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread John
On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: That style says that the ps INSIDE .sample-summary are 30% wide. and the markup I see in Chrome dev tools is: div class=sample-summary p/p p/p /div p [img] /p This is what is rendered...not the source. Maybe a

Re: [css-d] Float problems

2014-10-20 Thread Tom Livingston
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM, John j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote: On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: That style says that the ps INSIDE .sample-summary are 30% wide. and the markup I see in Chrome dev tools is: div class=sample-summary p/p p/p /div p