Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread MiB
nov 24 2014 07:25 Crest Christopher : > This version of the Developer Tools seems ten times more better then the > version I have in 33.1 (33.1.1) just released, literally at the time of me > writing this message/email. I also like Chrome tools and the Developer Tools add-on for both Chrome an

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread MiB
nov 24 2014 07:00 MiB : > Are you a man or a mice? I most certainly meant to ask ”Are you a man or a mouse”? My apologies for that grammatical error. You see how easy we mere mortals can make an error like that? A code god like you, Philip, surely would have a field day with me. C’mon now. __

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread MiB
On Nov 23, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: > MiB wrote: > >> I think that might be why Perch http://grabaperch.com/ was invented. > > Assuming that Perch was used to generate its own landing page, it would not > be for me : > >> Line 435, Column 7: Stray end tag div. >> >>http

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread MiB
24 nov 2014 kl. 02:26 skrev Karl DeSaulniers : > With firefox, you can set different screen sizes in their responsive layout > mode. VERY helpful. We have mentioned the new Firefox Developer Edition, right? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/ IMHO the Firefox tools is all I need.

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Crest Christopher
If I have a 4096 width resolution, I know what are thinking and have said already :-) I divide by a 320px width container that works out to 12.8% my container/div has transformed what previously was working well, into an extremely narrow container/div that looks horrible ? Christopher Tom

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Crest Christopher
I understand, you take the pages max width, whatever that may be then do the math, in your example, you used 960px. Christopher Tom Livingston Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:14 PM Normally what I do is have my page width be 100% of the viewport until I reach my "deskto

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Felix Miata
Crest Christopher composed on 2014-11-22 19:46 (UTC-0500): > How do you accommodate most, if not all screen sizes. Let the browser produce its innate functionality at instead of constraining it: 1-Pretend px, pt, cm, mm, in and other non-relative units do not exist in CSS. 2-With one exception

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread MiB
nov 23 2014 17:58 Crest Christopher : > Target / Context = Result So if your max page width is 960 and your container > is 650 then: 650/960=.677 (x100) so 67.7% > > How do I find my page max width, if the page width can be adjust at any time, > right now I don't know what my page width is so

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Tom Livingston
I don't recommend using all of these 'just because'. Good info though. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:27 PM Karl DeSaulniers wrote: > On Nov 23, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Crest Christopher < > crestchristop...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Tom & Tim - I forgot about the mobile tools in Chrome, they are pretty > go

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
On Nov 23, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Crest Christopher wrote: > Tom & Tim - I forgot about the mobile tools in Chrome, they are pretty good, > I wonder if you can add devices, my phone is not listed. > > Christopher Hi Christopher With firefox, you can set different screen sizes in their responsive

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
On Nov 23, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > MiB wrote: > >> I think that might be why Perch http://grabaperch.com/ was invented. > > Assuming that Perch was used to generate its own landing page, it would not > be for me : > >> Line 435, Column 7: Stray end tag div. >> >>

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Crest Christopher
Target / Context = Result So if your max page width is 960 and your container is 650 then: 650/960=.677 (x100) so 67.7% How do I find my page max width, if the page width can be adjust at any time, right now I don't know what my page width is so to give containers and so forth the correct perc

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Crest Christopher
Tom & Tim - I forgot about the mobile tools in Chrome, they are pretty good, I wonder if you can add devices, my phone is not listed. Christopher Tim Arnold Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:18 AM On Nov 23, 2014 11:01 AM, "Tom Livingston" > w

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Tim Arnold
On Nov 23, 2014 11:01 AM, "Tom Livingston" wrote: > > While testing on devices is important, you get a long way using the dev tools in Chrome or Firefox. The new dev tools in Chrome also provides some pretty amazing device emulation. It's certainly not perfect but miles closer to real than simply

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Tom Livingston
While testing on devices is important, you get a long way using the dev tools in Chrome or Firefox. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM Crest Christopher < crestchristop...@gmail.com> wrote: > I suppose I must begin testing on different devices immediately so break > points can be inserted. Otherwise

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Crest Christopher
I suppose I must begin testing on different devices immediately so break points can be inserted. Otherwise I'm afraid I'll be far along in development only to realize I'd have to go backwards causing all kinds of frustrations. What are the popular devices ? Christophers Tim Arnold

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Philip Taylor
MiB wrote: I think that might be why Perch http://grabaperch.com/ was invented. Assuming that Perch was used to generate its own landing page, it would not be for me : Line 435, Column 7: Stray end tag div. Philip Taylor __

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread MiB
nov 23 2014 13:40 David Laakso : > Just getting Drupal to work at default is enough to tax even Leonardo… I think that might be why Perch http://grabaperch.com/ was invented. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http:

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Tim Arnold
On Sunday, November 23, 2014, Crest Christopher wrote: > I don't have any site analytics, although that probably does help narrow > things down, although you never know who will visit your site on a device > that is not in your analytic. > > This is the confusing part Tim :) > You say focus on th

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread David Laakso
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > David Laakso wrote: > >> No issue seen this end Windows SeaMonkey/2.30. > > > Unless your browser / geometry / font settings / font scaling / screen > resolution / a million other possibilities are identical to mine, David, you > may no

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Tim Arnold
On Nov 23, 2014 6:52 AM, "Philip Taylor" wrote: > > > > David Laakso wrote: > >> No issue seen this end Windows SeaMonkey/2.30. > > > Unless your browser / geometry / font settings / font scaling / screen resolution / a million other possibilities are identical to mine, David, you may not see th

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Philip Taylor
David Laakso wrote: No issue seen this end Windows SeaMonkey/2.30. Unless your browser / geometry / font settings / font scaling / screen resolution / a million other possibilities are identical to mine, David, you may not see the same artifacts. My point was not that all viewers will

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread David Laakso
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: > Tim Arnold wrote: > >> This is a fair example of this idea that I recently worked on: >> http://www.workingamericahealthcare.org/ (Built in Drupal, Front End >> work mine, design by others who know better). > > > Hmmm. I followed the link,

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread Philip Taylor
Tim Arnold wrote: This is a fair example of this idea that I recently worked on: http://www.workingamericahealthcare.org/ (Built in Drupal, Front End work mine, design by others who know better). Hmmm. I followed the link, and it appeared in my browser window which occupied the right half

Re: [css-d] Don't miss a space

2014-11-23 Thread MiB
23 nov 2014 kl. 03:14 skrev Crest Christopher : > Percentage values scale the width of the viewport unlike pixel values. > > Tom / I assume when you say use max-width you mean; > > img { > max-width: 123px > } > > If so why do that, if you know the image size just give the container the > siz