Re: [css-d] Font size on Blackberry PRIV

2017-03-09 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Browsers already set a px size on their own, usually 16px = 1em/100%/1rem but can be set by the user. Setting the body to 100% or 1em or 1rem is basically setting the body to the users default size. Then any % or em or rem measurements on elements will build off of this. So a div that is in the

Re: [css-d] Font size on Blackberry PRIV

2017-03-09 Thread Tim Dawson
Hello Karl, Thanks for the suggestions. I've already tried setting as a pixel size, which didn't make any difference on the Blackberry, so I'll just continue through the other options. Tim On 09/03/2017 12:29, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Hi Tim, You might want to try setting your body to 100% or

Re: [css-d] Font size on Blackberry PRIV

2017-03-09 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Hi Tim, You might want to try setting your body to 100% or 1em; or 1rem; and see what happens. Season to taste. Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com > On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:16 AM, Tim Dawson wrote: > > My web site at http://new.gigaplusargyll.co.uk

[css-d] Font size on Blackberry PRIV

2017-03-09 Thread Tim Dawson
My web site at http://new.gigaplusargyll.co.uk displays OK on most screen sizes (it's not perfect yet), but a colleague who has a Blackberry PRIV (late 2016 model) reports that the text size is far too large. This is perhaps surprising for an Android phone (but I've seen it for myself), and

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-10 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
There are also numerous archive emails on this subject and many more of the questions you've had on lists.css-discuss.org I believe. :) Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com __ css-discuss

[css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Crest Christopher
When using font sizes for mobile development, is there a limit to the smallest size you can go before the responsiveness by the user becomes a struggle then a pleasure to navigate ? Christopher __ css-discuss

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Rod Castello
Crest, I see you're not getting any responses, so I thought I'd throw this in. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9174669/best-practice-font-size-for-mobile An article/discussion from Stack Overflow re: suitable font sizes for mobile and the types of units to use. Hope it helps. Personally, I

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Crest Christopher
Thanks for the link Rod, I hope it's safe to assume you and most others stick with the defaults of 16px for the smallest font size to be used on responsive. Once again, thanks for the link and the reply, it not only hopefully helps others including myself, gives some reassurance !

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread MiB
nov 9 2014 21:35 Crest Christopher crestchristop...@gmail.com: When using font sizes for mobile development, is there a limit to the smallest size you can go before the responsiveness by the user becomes a struggle then a pleasure to navigate ? You don’t consult user groups in your

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Felix Miata
Crest Christopher composed on 2014-11-09 20:40 (UTC-0500): Christopher Rod Castello composed: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9174669/best-practice-font-size-for-mobile Once again, thanks for the link and the reply, it not only hopefully helps others including myself, gives some

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread MiB
nov 10 2014 04:33 Crest Christopher crestchristop...@gmail.com: You don’t consult user groups in your projects, Crest? They’d know. What ? A user group is a stratified group of people that are giving you feedback on your design. Legibility is one of the basic questions I always ask about.

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread MiB
nov 10 2014 05:04 Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net: ATM I cannot fathom the right words to share in public describing any recommendation of use of an 8px font size. It's hard enough to find sharable words for recommending px for font sizing in any context. By definition, px font sizes

[css-d] Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-14 Thread Crest Christopher
Hi, how come the font-size is smaller in FireFox compared to Chrome and IE, which is displaying the font size correctly. I want to change the line spacing for the UL, is there a more elegant way then just {line-spacing} ? __

Re: [css-d] Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-03-14 23:42 (GMT-0400) Crest Christopher composed: Hi, how come the font-size is smaller in FireFox compared to Chrome and IE, which is displaying the font size correctly. I want to change the line spacing for the UL, is there a more elegant way then just {line-spacing} ? Here most

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-02 Thread Eric A. Meyer
On 1 Oct 2013, at 21:06, Kyle Sessions wrote: I've come across some really strange behavior when trying to mix multiple font-sizes within a single block element. I've built an example page here: http://kage23.com/line-height.html Basically, it seems like I'm getting an extra pixel of height

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Gresley
On 2/10/2013 11:06 AM, Kyle Sessions wrote: I've come across some really strange behavior when trying to mix multiple font-sizes within a single block element. I've built an example page here: http://kage23.com/line-height.html Basically, it seems like I'm getting an extra pixel of height and

[css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-01 Thread Kyle Sessions
I've come across some really strange behavior when trying to mix multiple font-sizes within a single block element. I've built an example page here: http://kage23.com/line-height.html Basically, it seems like I'm getting an extra pixel of height and I can't track down how or why. In my example,

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-10-01 18:06 (GMT-0700) Kyle Sessions composed: http://kage23.com/line-height.html ... I've been banging my head against this for a while now. I would greatly appreciate any thoughts or suggestions! I have no solution, just a suggestion, in case you're not familiar with the

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-01 Thread Chris Rockwell
I'm going to have to think more about this when I'm more awake (6 week old at home, give me a break:D) but my initial instinct was to remove the units from the line height (based on your font size and desired line-height, the resulting line-height would be 1.5) as there is plenty of documentation

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-01 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 2 oct. 2013 à 10:06, Kyle Sessions ksessi...@bepress.com a écrit : I've come across some really strange behavior when trying to mix multiple font-sizes within a single block element. I've built an example page here: http://kage23.com/line-height.html Basically, it seems like I'm

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Felix Miata wrote: Keep in mind that the browser default size is akin to having zoomed in advance to the preferred or optimum personalized base text size. I find in practice that it is not. For this reason I have had to reduce my default font size from 20px to 16px and use per-site

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 19 avr. 2013 à 17:10, Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk a écrit : Sites that work fine with real zoom often break with default font size 16px. ‘Real’ zoom: is that ‘Page zoom’ or ‘Text zoom’ ? (afaik your preferred browser still has the 2 options) Sites are less likely to break with the

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-04-19 09:10 (GMT+0100) Philip TAYLOR composed: Felix Miata wrote: Keep in mind that the browser default size is akin to having zoomed in advance to the preferred or optimum personalized base text size. I find in practice that it is not. For this reason I have had to reduce my

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-04-19 17:25 (GMT+0900) Philippe Wittenbergh composed: Philip TAYLOR composed: Sites that work fine with real zoom often break with default font size 16px. ‘Real’ zoom: is that ‘Page zoom’ or ‘Text zoom’ ? (afaik your preferred browser still has the 2 options) Sites are less likely

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread david
On 04/18/2013 12:06 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: From what I know, that's based on the browser and the user prefs. On my Mac, using Firefox latest, there's a Fonts Colors section of in the prefs under Content. The default font size out-of-the-box is Times 16. Anecdote: I have an older friend, in

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 19 avr. 2013 à 18:28, david gn...@hawaii.rr.com a écrit : Now just imagine a visitor coming to your site using his or her Google Nexus 10 running at 2560x1600 resolution on a 10 diagonal display … 16px is going to be VERY TINY! No, not really. That device has a HiDPI screen. The

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread david
On 04/18/2013 11:56 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Le 19 avr. 2013 à 18:28, david gn...@hawaii.rr.com a écrit : Now just imagine a visitor coming to your site using his or her Google Nexus 10 running at 2560x1600 resolution on a 10 diagonal display … 16px is going to be VERY TINY! No, not

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-04-19 00:29 (GMT-1000) david composed: Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: david composed: Now just imagine a visitor coming to your site using his or her Google Nexus 10 running at 2560x1600 resolution on a 10 diagonal display … 16px is going to be VERY TINY! No, not really. That

[css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread COM
My understanding of font-size spec is: 100% = 1 em = the size of an M and that this is 16px high. What I am not clear is: where do you tell the browser how large the M is? Is it universally understood that 1 M is 16 pixels high? thank you! John

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Tom Livingston
You can spec font-size of 100% on the body. This respects the users preference settings in their browser. You can then spec element font size in ems. The 16px is usually the default size set in browsers upon install.  — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM, COM

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Micky Hulse
From what I know, that's based on the browser and the user prefs. On my Mac, using Firefox latest, there's a Fonts Colors section of in the prefs under Content. The default font size out-of-the-box is Times 16. Anecdote: I have an older friend, in his 60s, that has this set to something like

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2013-04-19 0:54, COM wrote: My understanding of font-size spec is: 100% = 1 em = the size of an M and that this is 16px high. No, in the value of the font-size property, the em unit denotes the font size of the parent element. The font size is the height of the font. It is easy to see that

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, COM wrote: My understanding of font-size spec is: 100% = 1 em = the size of an M and that this is 16px high. 100% is the user's default font size. It could be anything from 12px to 24 px (or larger or smaller) and should be used for any body text on the page. What

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread COM
On Apr 18, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: What I am not clear is: where do you tell the browser how large the M is? You don't. The font designer decides the dimensions of letters, relative to the font size. OK…so the 1em is just a starting point and you

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Micky Hulse
You might find this tool interesting to play with: http://pxtoem.com/ The Learn tab has some OK info, and the math (for conversions) is good to know too. This article might also be of some interest to you: http://snook.ca/archives/html_and_css/font-size-with-rem

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-04-18 15:12 (GMT-0700) COM composed: OK…so the 1em is just a starting point and you adjust to suit..or these are all *relative* sizes because in the child elements you might spec font-size: .85em ? ..so that if User cranks up the sizes, everything sizes up (or down) in the same

Re: [css-d] Font size. Percentage, em or px?

2013-02-24 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-02-24 20:14 (GMT+1030) Anthony composed: What is the best unit to use when setting for size in style sheets? I've mainly seen the percentage unit in the html selector and either px or em elsewhere. Which is better? Best for who? For you as designer, px is probably easier to learn and

Re: [css-d] Font size. Percentage, em or px?

2013-02-24 Thread Niels Muller Larsen
And since you make pages for users, not for you, the choice should be easy Yours truly Prof Niels aka @phidip On 24/02/2013, at 12.10, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2013-02-24 20:14 (GMT+1030) Anthony composed: What is the best unit to use when setting for size in style

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread marie-ange.demeulemeester
Discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android Marie-Ange Demeulemeester wrote: According this spec http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html , I've defined my font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread Philip TAYLOR
marie-ange.demeulemees...@bnpparibasfortis.com wrote: I work in HTML5, the doctype is : !DOCTYPE html Marie-Ange OK, I realised after sending the message that as CSS is language-agnostic, the DOCTYPE is not relevant. None the less, neither scale-independent pixels nor density-

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread marie-ange.demeulemeester
Philip and Philippe, Thanks! Marie-Ange -Original Message- From: Philip TAYLOR [mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:27 AM To: DEMEULEMEESTER Marie-Ange Cc: marie.demeulemees...@gmail.com; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile

[css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-06 Thread Marie-Ange Demeulemeester
Hi, According this specs http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html , I've defined my font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14sp; } p.size20 {font-size:20sp; font-size:larger} Or in dp (Density-independent

[css-d] Font-size unit Android

2012-09-06 Thread marie-ange.demeulemeester
Hi, According this specs http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html I've defined my font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14sp; } p.size20 {font-size:20sp; font-size:larger} Or in dp

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-06 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Marie-Ange Demeulemeester wrote: According this spec http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html , I've defined my font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14sp; } p.size20 {font-size:20sp; font-size:larger} Or in

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Android

2012-09-06 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 5 sept. 2012 à 23:53, marie-ange.demeulemees...@bnpparibasfortis.com a écrit : Hi, According this specs http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html I've defined my font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-31 3:32, Josh Rehman wrote: The screen resolution thing is a non-issue because the CSS px is defined to be an angular measure: The reality is different from the spec, as one can see from the discussion of the topic in the relevant CSS3 draft:

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Josh Rehman
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: 2012-07-31 3:32, Josh Rehman wrote: The screen resolution thing is a non-issue because the CSS px is defined to be an angular measure: The reality is different from the spec, as one can see from the discussion of

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-31 20:43, Josh Rehman wrote: The reality is different from the spec, as one can see from the discussion of the topic in the relevant CSS3 draft: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#absolute-lengths The px unit may relate to the so-called reference pixel, or it may be anchored to a

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Josh Rehman
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: 2012-07-31 20:43, Josh Rehman wrote: The reality is different from the spec, as one can see from the discussion of the topic in the relevant CSS3 draft: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#absolute-lengths The px unit

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-31 21:04, Josh Rehman wrote: Well, I honestly don't understand where you see an ambiguity. So, you're either using physical units like cm or mm or pixels, in which case you're using an angular measure. No, in situations where these dimensions (all so-called absolute length units,

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Hakan Kirkan
How about using terms like (small, x-small, xx-small, medium, large, x-large or xx-large). Can it be an alternative to % ? Thanks Hakan Kirkan Dominor LLC/ Miami http://dominor.com On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:06 AM, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.comwrote: Taking Richard Rutter's original

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-30 Thread Josh Rehman
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:13 AM, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.comwrote: On 7/26/12 1:55 AM, Georg wrote: On 26.07.2012 06:06, David Hucklesby wrote: Perhaps this is just nonsense. But it just has to be better than 62.5%. I use Opera a lot, with a minimum text size of 12px--you'd be

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-26 Thread Georg
On 26.07.2012 06:06, David Hucklesby wrote: Perhaps this is just nonsense. But it just has to be better than 62.5%. I use Opera a lot, with a minimum text size of 12px--you'd be surprised how many sites break because of the scaling due to the 62.5% base size. It's everywhere! :( Nothing that

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/07/25 21:06 (GMT-0700) David Hucklesby composed: Taking Richard Rutter's original idea to make the base font-size 62.5%, Rutter's idea is one of the worst things to ever happen to the web: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Clagnut/bbcnSS.html which translates to 10px on most desktop

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-26 Thread David Hucklesby
On 7/26/12 1:55 AM, Georg wrote: On 26.07.2012 06:06, David Hucklesby wrote: Perhaps this is just nonsense. But it just has to be better than 62.5%. I use Opera a lot, with a minimum text size of 12px--you'd be surprised how many sites break because of the scaling due to the 62.5% base size.

[css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-25 Thread David Hucklesby
Taking Richard Rutter's original idea to make the base font-size 62.5%, which translates to 10px on most desktop computers running at the common 96 DPI setting, I suggest a modern alternative. It looks like this: html { font-size: 125%; } Georg has a nice write-up explaining the problem with

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-25 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:06 AM, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com wrote: Taking Richard Rutter's original idea to make the base font-size 62.5%, which translates to 10px on most desktop computers running at the common 96 DPI setting, I suggest a modern alternative. It looks like this:

Re: [css-d] font-size value affects position. why?

2011-07-27 Thread Ghodmode
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:28 AM, John j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote: this div positions a type head: #texthead {        font-size: 25px;        margin: 105px 0 0 160px; } if I vary *just* the font-size, this head will move up or down. why should that be? I think that Philippe hinted at

[css-d] font-size value affects position. why?

2011-07-26 Thread John
this div positions a type head: #texthead { font-size: 25px; margin: 105px 0 0 160px; } if I vary *just* the font-size, this head will move up or down. why should that be? also, I've seen people use both % and specific px values with font- size. which one is correct? Is it

Re: [css-d] font-size value affects position. why?

2011-07-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:28 AM, John wrote: this div positions a type head: #texthead { font-size: 25px; margin: 105px 0 0 160px; } if I vary *just* the font-size, this head will move up or down. why should that be? Hmm, a link to a testcase would help of course. Meanwhile:

Re: [css-d] font-size value affects position. why?

2011-07-26 Thread Mark Henderson
On 27 July 2011 12:28, John j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote: []... if I vary *just* the font-size, this head will move up or down. why should that be? Examine line-height. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS1/#the-height-of-lines also, I've seen people use both % and specific px values with font-size.

[css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Germán Martínez
Hello, I've always used body {font-size: .625em;} as a way to manage more easily the font-size and I was wondering if using: html{ font-size: .625em; } body{ font-size: 1.4em; } will be a better solution, are there any known quirks for defining font-size on the html element?

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Germán Martínez wrote: Hello, I've always used body {font-size: .625em;} as a way to manage more easily the font-size and I was wondering if using: html{ font-size: .625em; } body{ font-size: 1.4em; } will be a better solution, are there any known quirks for

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Germán Martínez
I'm giving the body a 1.4em so it will be like 14px. I'm doing this because my markup has nested sections and I can't use section {font-size: 1.4em;} or can I? On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Germán Martínez wrote: Hello, I've always used body

[css-d] font size on pc screen vs mobile phone

2011-01-11 Thread BHomis
Hi. I'm trying to write something in a div that measures 400px wide. It looks fine on my computer screen, but on an iPhone, the text exceeds the div. It looks fine on the Droid. Is there anything I can do? Thanks, Bruce

Re: [css-d] font size on pc screen vs mobile phone

2011-01-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/01/11 14:00 (GMT-0500) bho...@aol.com composed: Hi. I'm trying to write something in a div that measures 400px wide. It looks fine on my computer screen, but on an iPhone, the text exceeds the div. It looks fine on the Droid. Is there anything I can do? Set widths in em instead

Re: [css-d] font size on pc screen vs mobile phone

2011-01-11 Thread David Laakso
On 1/11/11 2:00 PM, bho...@aol.com wrote: Hi. I'm trying to write something in a div that measures 400px wide. It looks fine on my computer screen, but on an iPhone, the text exceeds the div. It looks fine on the Droid. Is there anything I can do? Thanks, Bruce Desktop and handsets

[css-d] font-size rule of thumb

2010-09-01 Thread Bob Meetin
What is the current rule of thumb for setting or controlling font sizes in the stylesheet? html { font-size: (px or em) (if any?) } body { font-size: (px or em) (if any?) } Any IF IE adjustments for IE vs Mozilla/Safari? Part of the reason I ask is because when you use a CMS program and a

Re: [css-d] font-size rule of thumb

2010-09-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/09/01 15:50 (GMT-0400) Bob Meetin composed: What is the current rule of thumb for setting or controlling font sizes in the stylesheet? Remember, CSS is a language of suggestion, not one of control like in DTP. The user has ultimate control, because, after all, its her puter, or

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-24 Thread MEM
Hope this has not confused you... Not at all! :) Thanks for the additional info, that helped me understand a little bit more about, why/what is line-height, and the relation with lead (metal) as well. So, if I may say it properly, for typing proposes, we should, actually, have in

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread MEM
Subject: Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element On 2010/02/20 07:08 (GMT) MEM composed: I'm asking myself this question and I'm hoping someone could help me solve it. On past posts, we have been talking on applying font-size to elements that actually contain text

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: Thanks Felix and David, Sorry for this late re-reply. :( What is the meaning/propose of the slash here: 100%/1.4 ? Thanks a lot for your clarifications on the last e-mail, Márcio It is a shorthand property for declaring font-size 100% (default) /on/ 1.4 lead (no

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread MEM
It is a shorthand property for declaring font-size 100% (default) /on/ 1.4 lead (no unit of measure is normally needed for lead). And lead is the space between lines? Why should we put that value? What means having a 100% font on a 1.4 lead ? I realize that the list, couldn't be the place

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: It is a shorthand property for declaring font-size 100% (default) /on/ 1.4 lead (no unit of measure is normally needed for lead). And lead is the space between lines? Why should we put that value? What means having a 100% font on a 1.4 lead ? I realize that the list,

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/02/23 19:03 (GMT) MEM composed: It is a shorthand property for declaring font-size 100% (default) /on/ 1.4 lead (no unit of measure is normally needed for lead). And lead is the space between lines? Why should we put that value? What means having a 100% font on a 1.4 lead ? I

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread MEM
Thanks again. I was looking for lead and css on google, no luck. I was not sure if lead could be a synonymous of line-height, now I (and others) know. I will have a read on the sources provided. Thanks a lot, Márcio __

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread David Hucklesby
On 2/23/10 12:37 PM, MEM wrote: Thanks again. I was looking for lead and css on google, no luck. I was not sure if lead could be a synonymous of line-height, now I (and others) know. I believe lead refers to the practice, in the days of hot metal type, of inserting strips of metal (lead)

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-20 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: Hello all, I'm asking myself this question and I'm hoping someone could help me solve it. On past posts, we have been talking on applying font-size to elements that actually contain text and not, on containers of other elements because, that could lead to visual inconsistencies

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/02/20 07:08 (GMT) MEM composed: I'm asking myself this question and I'm hoping someone could help me solve it. On past posts, we have been talking on applying font-size to elements that actually contain text and not, on containers of other elements because, that could lead to visual

[css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-19 Thread MEM
Hello all, I'm asking myself this question and I'm hoping someone could help me solve it. On past posts, we have been talking on applying font-size to elements that actually contain text and not, on containers of other elements because, that could lead to visual inconsistencies and unnecessarily

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction] - closing this long thread.

2010-01-03 Thread MEM
Too much errors and inconsistencies. I cannot constantly change the structure and ask questions about specific issues at the same time. I'm absolutely rocking off. Sorry all, Alan, thanks a lot for your template, in order to be able to apply, I would need to print and read line by line.

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2010-01-02 Thread MEM
Thank you a million, Sorry for the absence, I will follow your advices once I can get back to the computer for more undeless days and nights. I will give my best. Regards, Márcio __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org]

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2010-01-02 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: Thank you a million, Sorry for the absence, I will follow your advices once I can get back to the computer for more undeless days and nights. I will give my best. Regards, Márcio Slow and Steady won the race! Best, Aesop --

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2010-01-01 Thread Alan Gresley
MEM wrote: (snip HOWEVER I need to have equal height columns as well, here: Drop the equal height columns. This is making IE6 show that margin-bottom of 30,000px. http://www.chequedejeuner.nuvemk.com/educa.infantil (snip) Dispersing, Márcio Ok we had. *LESS IS BETTER* This also

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-31 Thread MEM
Oh dear new year... a) The ul list on the blue column should be vertically centered. b) The text of the first item on the ul list on the blue column should be, top aligned, with the titles of the grey column. This could have a min-height defined and should NOT follow the column height:

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-31 Thread MEM
Oh dear new year... a) The ul list on the blue column should be vertically centered. b) The text of the first item on the ul list on the blue column should be, top aligned, with the titles of the grey column. This could have a min-height defined and should NOT follow the column

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-31 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: Simplifying: Excellent. Let's think on that, if not actually try it. Márcio Do you mean you seek a parent-block that contains four adjacent column-blocks that would appear to be of the same physical height as the parent-block: regardless of the amount

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread MEM
With a default browser install - no settings altered - which the vast majority of users will be using, that size is very small and a large majority of users don't know they CAN do something about the size of text they are seeing. I reserve that size for disclaimers and copyright lines, and

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/12/29 14:07 (GMT) MEM composed: If we allow the user to zoom, You don't have any choice. To be clear, a web browser is a user agent, not a webmaster agent, and is subject to the whims and desires of its user who is in control of it to whatever extent she knows how. and if we

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread Alan Gresley
MEM wrote: (snip) I realize that the site, on 0.75em is still capable of being seen on lower resolutions (snip) Thanks again, Márcio If you are forced to do this, don't use ems, use percent. body {font-size: 75%;} I use ems for widths in navigation items for correct scaling in IE.

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread MEM
The best web site designs are resolution agnostic, meaning they work similarly well regardless of a user's display resolution. Display resolution by itself is meaningless. Only when coupled to knowledge of the display's size can the knowledge of its resolution become useful. I will try my

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread MEM
Ok I've not augmented the font size, was too late for that. :( I've reduced the em to 2 decimal places. I've placed font-sizes in %. Have removed font-size from containers (it's only on p, and other transitional allowed text tags). Added a background color of white to the container. Reduced the

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/12/29 18:22 (GMT) MEM composed: we cannot neglect, the fact that big sharks like IBM or Microsoft, Apple... etc... have, at the moment 1024x in mind... With big comes large inertia, meaning it takes long to recognize the need for and implement change. ...why am I asking about EM and

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-28 Thread Alan Gresley
MEM wrote: Look at http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/Font/font-rounding.html in each of your installed browsers and you may see that more than two significant digits to em font-sizes are an invitation for inconsistent results. If you stick to two significant digits and take what you learn from that

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-28 Thread David Laakso
Alan Gresley wrote: i The only font-size that I use for this page, http://css-class.com/test/ is this. h1 {font-size:160%;} h2 {font-size:125%;} h3 {font-size:115%;} h4 {font-size:100%;} a[href=#navigation] {font-size:140%;} .float2 h3 {font-size:140%;} #wrapper2+div+div a

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/12/28 19:06 (GMT+0100) Alan Gresley composed: below two do nothing and are not really needed. body {font-size: 100%;}[...] True for good browsers. For not so good M$ browsers it can be useful when your CSS is less than ideal:

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-28 Thread Alan Gresley
Felix Miata wrote: On 2009/12/28 19:06 (GMT+0100) Alan Gresley composed: below two do nothing and are not really needed. body {font-size: 100%;}[...] True for good browsers. Hello Felix, Yes, I did overlook that old IE6 bug (and possibly IE7). My font-size: 100% is declared to stop

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-28 Thread MEM
Ok... I have a lot on the to do list already. I'm on my way to significantly change the css. In the meanwhile, I'm afraid the design given to me to reproduce, will not allow 0.85em instead of 0.75em, for example, simple because the text will not fit on the boxes. In order to allow something

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-28 Thread Tom Livingston
With a default browser install - no settings altered - which the vast majority of users will be using, that size is very small and a large majority of users don't know they CAN do something about the size of text they are seeing. I reserve that size for disclaimers and copyright lines, and even

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-28 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: Ok... I have a lot on the to do list already. I'm on my way to significantly change the css. In the meanwhile, I'm afraid the design given to me to reproduce, will not allow 0.85em instead of 0.75em, for example, simple because the text will not fit on the boxes. In order to

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