Re: [css-d] Font size on Blackberry PRIV

2017-03-09 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Browsers already set a px size on their own, usually 16px = 1em/100%/1rem but can be set by the user. Setting the body to 100% or 1em or 1rem is basically setting the body to the users default size. Then any % or em or rem measurements on elements will build off of this. So a div that is in the

Re: [css-d] Font size on Blackberry PRIV

2017-03-09 Thread Tim Dawson
Hello Karl, Thanks for the suggestions. I've already tried setting as a pixel size, which didn't make any difference on the Blackberry, so I'll just continue through the other options. Tim On 09/03/2017 12:29, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Hi Tim, You might want to try setting your body to 100% or

Re: [css-d] Font size on Blackberry PRIV

2017-03-09 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Hi Tim, You might want to try setting your body to 100% or 1em; or 1rem; and see what happens. Season to taste. Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com > On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:16 AM, Tim Dawson wrote: > > My web site at http://new.gigaplusargyll.co.uk displays OK on most

[css-d] Font size on Blackberry PRIV

2017-03-09 Thread Tim Dawson
My web site at http://new.gigaplusargyll.co.uk displays OK on most screen sizes (it's not perfect yet), but a colleague who has a Blackberry PRIV (late 2016 model) reports that the text size is far too large. This is perhaps surprising for an Android phone (but I've seen it for myself), and I'm

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-10 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
There are also numerous archive emails on this subject and many more of the questions you've had on lists.css-discuss.org I believe. :) Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-dis

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread MiB
nov 10 2014 05:04 Felix Miata : > ATM I cannot fathom the right words to share in public describing any > recommendation of use of an 8px font size. It's hard enough to find sharable > words for recommending px for font sizing in any context. By definition, px > font sizes disregard whatever size

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread MiB
nov 10 2014 04:33 Crest Christopher : > You don’t consult user groups in your projects, Crest? They’d know. > > What ? A user group is a stratified group of people that are giving you feedback on your design. Legibility is one of the basic questions I always ask about. Users normally know wh

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Felix Miata
Crest Christopher composed on 2014-11-09 20:40 (UTC-0500): > Christopher > >> Rod Castello composed: >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9174669/best-practice-font-size-for-mobile > Once again, thanks for the link and the reply, it not only hopefully > helps others including myself, gives so

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Crest Christopher
You don’t consult user groups in your projects, Crest? They’d know. What ? MiB Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:45 PM You don’t consult user groups in your projects, Crest? They’d know. I usually use about 10 very different people in all ages and positions.

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread MiB
nov 9 2014 21:35 Crest Christopher : > When using font sizes for mobile development, is there a limit to the > smallest size you can go before the responsiveness by the user becomes a > struggle then a pleasure to navigate ? You don’t consult user groups in your projects, Crest? They’d know.

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Crest Christopher
Thanks for the link Rod, I hope it's safe to assume you and most others stick with the defaults of 16px for the smallest font size to be used on responsive. Once again, thanks for the link and the reply, it not only hopefully helps others including myself, gives some reassurance ! Christophe

Re: [css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Rod Castello
Crest, I see you're not getting any responses, so I thought I'd throw this in. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9174669/best-practice-font-size-for-mobile An article/discussion from Stack Overflow re: suitable font sizes for mobile and the types of units to use. Hope it helps. Personally, I prefe

[css-d] Font Size for fluid responsive on touch devices ?

2014-11-09 Thread Crest Christopher
When using font sizes for mobile development, is there a limit to the smallest size you can go before the responsiveness by the user becomes a struggle then a pleasure to navigate ? Christopher __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-d

Re: [css-d] Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-03-14 23:42 (GMT-0400) Crest Christopher composed: Hi, how come the font-size is smaller in FireFox compared to Chrome and IE, which is displaying the font size correctly. I want to change the line spacing for the UL, is there a more elegant way then just {line-spacing} ? Here most fo

[css-d] Font Size Small in FireFox ?

2014-03-14 Thread Crest Christopher
Hi, how come the font-size is smaller in FireFox compared to Chrome and IE, which is displaying the font size correctly. I want to change the line spacing for the UL, is there a more elegant way then just {line-spacing} ? __ c

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Gresley
On 2/10/2013 11:06 AM, Kyle Sessions wrote: I've come across some really strange behavior when trying to mix multiple font-sizes within a single block element. I've built an example page here: http://kage23.com/line-height.html Basically, it seems like I'm getting an extra pixel of height and I

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-02 Thread Eric A. Meyer
On 1 Oct 2013, at 21:06, Kyle Sessions wrote: I've come across some really strange behavior when trying to mix multiple font-sizes within a single block element. I've built an example page here: http://kage23.com/line-height.html Basically, it seems like I'm getting an extra pixel of height

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-01 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 2 oct. 2013 à 10:06, Kyle Sessions a écrit : > I've come across some really strange behavior when trying to mix multiple > font-sizes within a single block element. I've built an example page here: > > http://kage23.com/line-height.html > > Basically, it seems like I'm getting an extra pixe

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-01 Thread Chris Rockwell
I'm going to have to think more about this when I'm more awake (6 week old at home, give me a break:D) but my initial instinct was to remove the units from the line height (based on your font size and desired line-height, the resulting line-height would be "1.5") as there is plenty of documentation

Re: [css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-10-01 18:06 (GMT-0700) Kyle Sessions composed: http://kage23.com/line-height.html ... I've been banging my head against this for a while now. I would greatly appreciate any thoughts or suggestions! I have no solution, just a suggestion, in case you're not familiar with the differenc

[css-d] Font-size affecting line-height?

2013-10-01 Thread Kyle Sessions
I've come across some really strange behavior when trying to mix multiple font-sizes within a single block element. I've built an example page here: http://kage23.com/line-height.html Basically, it seems like I'm getting an extra pixel of height and I can't track down how or why. In my example, t

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-04-19 00:29 (GMT-1000) david composed: Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: david composed: Now just imagine a visitor coming to your site using his or her Google Nexus 10 running at 2560x1600 resolution on a 10" diagonal display … 16px is going to be VERY TINY! No, not really. That devi

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread david
On 04/18/2013 11:56 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Le 19 avr. 2013 à 18:28, david a écrit : Now just imagine a visitor coming to your site using his or her Google Nexus 10 running at 2560x1600 resolution on a 10" diagonal display … 16px is going to be VERY TINY! No, not really. That device

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 19 avr. 2013 à 18:28, david a écrit : > Now just imagine a visitor coming to your site using his or her Google Nexus > 10 running at 2560x1600 resolution on a 10" diagonal display … 16px is going > to be VERY TINY! No, not really. That device has a HiDPI screen. The 2560x1600 quoted are _

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread david
On 04/18/2013 12:06 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: From what I know, that's based on the browser and the user prefs. On my Mac, using Firefox latest, there's a Fonts & Colors section of in the prefs under "Content". The default font size out-of-the-box is Times 16. Anecdote: I have an older friend, in

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-04-19 17:25 (GMT+0900) Philippe Wittenbergh composed: Philip TAYLOR composed: Sites that work fine with "real" zoom often break with default font size 16px. ‘Real’ zoom: is that ‘Page zoom’ or ‘Text zoom’ ? (afaik your preferred browser still has the 2 options) Sites are less likel

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-04-19 09:10 (GMT+0100) Philip TAYLOR composed: Felix Miata wrote: Keep in mind that the browser default size is akin to having zoomed in advance to the preferred or optimum personalized base text size. I find in practice that it is not. For this reason I have had to reduce my defau

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 19 avr. 2013 à 17:10, Philip TAYLOR a écrit : > Sites that work fine with "real" zoom > often break with default font size > 16px. ‘Real’ zoom: is that ‘Page zoom’ or ‘Text zoom’ ? (afaik your preferred browser still has the 2 options) Sites are less likely to break with the former, as it e

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-19 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Felix Miata wrote: > Keep in mind that the browser default size is akin to having zoomed in > advance to the preferred or optimum personalized base text size. I find in practice that it is not. For this reason I have had to reduce my default font size from 20px to 16px and use per-site zoom-

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-04-18 15:12 (GMT-0700) COM composed: OK…so the 1em is just a starting point and you adjust to suit..or these are all *relative* sizes because in the child elements you might spec font-size: .85em ? ..so that if User cranks up the sizes, everything sizes up (or down) in the same rela

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Micky Hulse
You might find this tool interesting to play with: The "Learn" tab has some OK info, and the math (for conversions) is good to know too. This article might also be of some interest to you: __

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread COM
On Apr 18, 2013, at 3:07 PM, "Jukka K. Korpela" wrote: >> What I am not clear is: where do you tell the browser how large the "M" is? > > You don't. The font designer decides the dimensions of letters, relative to > the font size. OK…so the 1em is just a starting point and you adjust to suit.

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, COM wrote: My understanding of font-size spec is: 100% = 1 em = the size of an "M" and that this is 16px high. 100% is the user's default font size. It could be anything from 12px to 24 px (or larger or smaller) and should be used for any body text on the page. Wha

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2013-04-19 0:54, COM wrote: My understanding of font-size spec is: 100% = 1 em = the size of an "M" and that this is 16px high. No, in the value of the font-size property, the em unit denotes the font size of the parent element. The font size is the height of the font. It is easy to see tha

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Micky Hulse
>From what I know, that's based on the browser and the user prefs. On my Mac, using Firefox latest, there's a Fonts & Colors section of in the prefs under "Content". The default font size out-of-the-box is Times 16. Anecdote: I have an older friend, in his 60s, that has this set to something like

Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread Tom Livingston
You can spec font-size of 100% on the body. This respects the users preference settings in their browser. You can then spec element font size in ems. The 16px is usually the default size set in browsers upon install.  — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM, COM wrote: >

[css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread COM
My understanding of font-size spec is: 100% = 1 em = the size of an "M" and that this is 16px high. What I am not clear is: where do you tell the browser how large the "M" is? Is it universally understood that 1 "M" is 16 pixels high? thank you! John ___

Re: [css-d] Font size. Percentage, em or px?

2013-02-24 Thread Niels Muller Larsen
And since you make pages for users, not for you, the choice should be easy Yours truly Prof Niels aka @phidip On 24/02/2013, at 12.10, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-02-24 20:14 (GMT+1030) Anthony composed: > >> What is the best unit to use when setting for size in style sheets? I've >> mainly

Re: [css-d] Font size. Percentage, em or px?

2013-02-24 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-02-24 20:14 (GMT+1030) Anthony composed: What is the best unit to use when setting for size in style sheets? I've mainly seen the percentage unit in the html selector and either px or em elsewhere. Which is better? Best for who? For you as designer, px is probably easier to learn and

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread marie-ange.demeulemeester
Philip and Philippe, Thanks! Marie-Ange -Original Message- From: Philip TAYLOR [mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:27 AM To: DEMEULEMEESTER Marie-Ange Cc: marie.demeulemees...@gmail.com; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread Philip TAYLOR
marie-ange.demeulemees...@bnpparibasfortis.com wrote: I work in HTML5, the doctype is : Marie-Ange OK, I realised after sending the message that as CSS is language-agnostic, the DOCTYPE is not relevant. None the less, neither scale-independent pixels nor density- independent pixel

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-07 Thread marie-ange.demeulemeester
Subject: Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android Marie-Ange Demeulemeester wrote: > According this spec > http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html , I've defined my > font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): > body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,s

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Android

2012-09-06 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 5 sept. 2012 à 23:53, marie-ange.demeulemees...@bnpparibasfortis.com a écrit : > > Hi, > According this specs > http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html I've defined my > font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): > body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; >

Re: [css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-06 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Marie-Ange Demeulemeester wrote: According this spec http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html , I've defined my font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14sp; } p.size20 {font-size:20sp; font-size:larger} Or in

[css-d] Font-size unit Android

2012-09-06 Thread marie-ange.demeulemeester
Hi, According this specs http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html I've defined my font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14sp; } p.size20 {font-size:20sp; font-size:larger} Or in dp (Density-independent

[css-d] Font-size unit Mobile and tablet Android

2012-09-06 Thread Marie-Ange Demeulemeester
Hi, According this specs http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html , I've defined my font-size in sp (scale-independent pixels): body{font-family:Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14sp; } p.size20 {font-size:20sp; font-size:larger} Or in dp (Density-independent Pixels):

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Hakan Kirkan
How about using terms like (small, x-small, xx-small, medium, large, x-large or xx-large). Can it be an alternative to % ? Thanks Hakan Kirkan Dominor LLC/ Miami http://dominor.com On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:06 AM, David Hucklesby wrote: > Taking Richard Rutter's original idea to make the base

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-31 21:04, Josh Rehman wrote: Well, I honestly don't understand where you see an ambiguity. So, you're either using physical units like cm or mm or pixels, in which case you're using an angular measure. No, in situations where "these dimensions" (all so-called absolute length units, in

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Josh Rehman
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 2012-07-31 20:43, Josh Rehman wrote: > >>> The reality is different from the spec, as one can see from the >>> discussion of the topic in the relevant CSS3 draft: >>> http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#absolute-lengths >>> The px unit may

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-31 20:43, Josh Rehman wrote: The reality is different from the spec, as one can see from the discussion of the topic in the relevant CSS3 draft: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#absolute-lengths The px unit may relate to the so-called reference pixel, or it may be anchored to a physic

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Josh Rehman
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > > 2012-07-31 3:32, Josh Rehman wrote: > >> The screen resolution thing is a non-issue because the CSS px >> is defined to be an angular measure: > > > The reality is different from the spec, as one can see from the discussion of > the to

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-31 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-07-31 3:32, Josh Rehman wrote: The screen resolution thing is a non-issue because the CSS px is defined to be an angular measure: The reality is different from the spec, as one can see from the discussion of the topic in the relevant CSS3 draft: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#absolut

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-30 Thread Josh Rehman
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:13 AM, David Hucklesby wrote: > On 7/26/12 1:55 AM, Georg wrote: > >> On 26.07.2012 06:06, David Hucklesby wrote: >> >>> Perhaps this is just nonsense. But it just has to be better than 62.5%. >>> I use Opera a lot, with a minimum text size of 12px--you'd be surprised >>>

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-26 Thread David Hucklesby
On 7/26/12 1:55 AM, Georg wrote: On 26.07.2012 06:06, David Hucklesby wrote: Perhaps this is just nonsense. But it just has to be better than 62.5%. I use Opera a lot, with a minimum text size of 12px--you'd be surprised how many sites break because of the scaling due to the 62.5% base size. It'

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/07/25 21:06 (GMT-0700) David Hucklesby composed: Taking Richard Rutter's original idea to make the base font-size 62.5%, Rutter's "idea" is one of the worst things to ever happen to the web: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Clagnut/bbcnSS.html which translates to 10px on most desktop compute

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-26 Thread Georg
On 26.07.2012 06:06, David Hucklesby wrote: Perhaps this is just nonsense. But it just has to be better than 62.5%. I use Opera a lot, with a minimum text size of 12px--you'd be surprised how many sites break because of the scaling due to the 62.5% base size. It's everywhere! :( Nothing that wo

Re: [css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-25 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:06 AM, David Hucklesby wrote: > Taking Richard Rutter's original idea to make the base font-size 62.5%, > which translates to 10px on most desktop computers running at the common 96 > DPI setting, I suggest a modern alternative. It looks like this: > > html { font-size:

[css-d] font-size: 62.5% revisited

2012-07-25 Thread David Hucklesby
Taking Richard Rutter's original idea to make the base font-size 62.5%, which translates to 10px on most desktop computers running at the common 96 DPI setting, I suggest a modern alternative. It looks like this: html { font-size: 125%; } Georg has a nice write-up explaining the problem with 62.

Re: [css-d] font-size value affects position. why?

2011-07-27 Thread Ghodmode
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:28 AM, John wrote: > > this div positions a type head: > > #texthead { >        font-size: 25px; >        margin: 105px 0 0 160px; > } > > if I vary *just* the font-size, this head will move up or down. why should > that be? I think that Philippe hinted at the reason.  

Re: [css-d] font-size value affects position. why?

2011-07-26 Thread Mark Henderson
On 27 July 2011 12:28, John wrote: []... > if I vary *just* the font-size, this head will move up or down. why should > that be? Examine line-height. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS1/#the-height-of-lines > also, I've seen people use both % and specific px values with font-size. > which one is correct?

Re: [css-d] font-size value affects position. why?

2011-07-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:28 AM, John wrote: > this div positions a type head: > > #texthead { > font-size: 25px; > margin: 105px 0 0 160px; > } > > if I vary *just* the font-size, this head will move up or down. why should > that be? Hmm, a link to a testcase would help of course. Me

[css-d] font-size value affects position. why?

2011-07-26 Thread John
this div positions a type head: #texthead { font-size: 25px; margin: 105px 0 0 160px; } if I vary *just* the font-size, this head will move up or down. why should that be? also, I've seen people use both % and specific px values with font- size. which one is correct? Is it d

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-24 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/02/22 13:55 (GMT-0800) Kevin A. Cameron composed: Anything between 10px and 25px can be appropriate for main copy depending on There's no ceiling. Screen pixel density has been climbing and will continue to climb. It takes 32px @ 192 DPI to make 12pt (IE's default size, which is 2pt

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Kevin A. Cameron wrote: ... PS - list mod: can you change the list options so the 'from' field is the mailing list instead of the recent poster? Or change Reply-to: to the list. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, Author: Pro Bash Programming: Scri

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Kevin A. Cameron
Just as a note, I ('and many other people') like small fonts in some cases. Anything between 10px and 25px can be appropriate for main copy depending on it's usage. You can't accommodate all users. And although maximum readability is important, small compromises to meet design needs is acceptable a

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Germán Martínez wrote: I'm giving the body a 1.4em so it will be like 14px. It will be whatever follows from the browser settings. I know 14px is not an optimal font-size, but we're not discussing readability here. Maybe you aren't, but it's still relevant that your setting will often cre

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Germán Martínez
On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Germán Martínez wrote: > >> I'm giving the body a 1.4em so it will be like 14px. > >Why? That's too small for me (and many other people) to read. I know 14px is not an optimal font-size, but we're not dis

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Germán Martínez wrote: I'm giving the body a 1.4em so it will be like 14px. Why? That's too small for me (and many other people) to read. I'm doing this because my markup has nested sections and I can't use section {font-size: 1.4em;} or can I? Why would you wa

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread G.Sørtun
[...] are there any known quirks for defining font-size on the html element? A small start-size may cause blown-up text-size throughout the page in some browsers when subjected to 'minimum font size', and IE7 and older IE-versions are buggy when starting with 'em'. Other than that it doesn'

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Germán Martínez
I'm giving the body a 1.4em so it will be like 14px. I'm doing this because my markup has nested sections and I can't use section {font-size: 1.4em;} or can I? On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Germán Martínez wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've always us

Re: [css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Germán Martínez wrote: Hello, I've always used body {font-size: .625em;} as a way to manage more easily the font-size and I was wondering if using: html{ font-size: .625em; } body{ font-size: 1.4em; } will be a better solution, are there any known quirks for def

[css-d] font-size html

2011-02-22 Thread Germán Martínez
Hello, I've always used body {font-size: .625em;} as a way to manage more easily the font-size and I was wondering if using: html{ font-size: .625em; } body{ font-size: 1.4em; } will be a better solution, are there any known quirks for defining font-size on the html element? Germán

Re: [css-d] font size on pc screen vs mobile phone

2011-01-11 Thread David Laakso
On 1/11/11 2:00 PM, bho...@aol.com wrote: Hi. I'm trying to write something in a div that measures 400px wide. It looks fine on my computer screen, but on an iPhone, the text exceeds the div. It looks fine on the Droid. Is there anything I can do? Thanks, Bruce Desktop and handsets rea

Re: [css-d] font size on pc screen vs mobile phone

2011-01-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/01/11 14:00 (GMT-0500) bho...@aol.com composed: Hi. I'm trying to write something in a div that measures 400px wide. It looks fine on my computer screen, but on an iPhone, the text exceeds the div. It looks fine on the Droid. Is there anything I can do? Set widths in em instead

[css-d] font size on pc screen vs mobile phone

2011-01-11 Thread BHomis
Hi. I'm trying to write something in a div that measures 400px wide. It looks fine on my computer screen, but on an iPhone, the text exceeds the div. It looks fine on the Droid. Is there anything I can do? Thanks, Bruce __

Re: [css-d] font-size rule of thumb

2010-09-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/09/01 15:50 (GMT-0400) Bob Meetin composed: > What is the current rule of thumb for setting or controlling font sizes > in the stylesheet? Remember, CSS is a language of suggestion, not one of control like in DTP. The user has ultimate control, because, after all, its her puter, or whate

[css-d] font-size rule of thumb

2010-09-01 Thread Bob Meetin
What is the current rule of thumb for setting or controlling font sizes in the stylesheet? html { font-size: (px or em) (if any?) } body { font-size: (px or em) (if any?) } Any IF IE adjustments for IE vs Mozilla/Safari? Part of the reason I ask is because when you use a CMS program and a cu

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-24 Thread MEM
> > Hope this has not confused you... > Not at all! :) Thanks for the additional info, that helped me understand a little bit more about, why/what is line-height, and the relation with lead (metal) as well. So, if I may say it properly, for typing proposes, we should, actually, have in conside

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread David Hucklesby
On 2/23/10 12:37 PM, MEM wrote: > Thanks again. > > I was looking for "lead" and "css" on google, no luck. I was not sure > if lead could be a synonymous of line-height, now I (and others) > know. > I believe "lead" refers to the practice, in the days of hot metal type, of inserting strips of metal

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread MEM
Thanks again. I was looking for "lead" and "css" on google, no luck. I was not sure if lead could be a synonymous of line-height, now I (and others) know. I will have a read on the sources provided. Thanks a lot, Márcio __ c

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/02/23 19:03 (GMT) MEM composed: >> It is a shorthand property for declaring font-size 100% (default) /on/ >> 1.4 lead (no unit of measure is normally needed for lead). > And lead is the space between lines? > Why should we put that value? > What means having a 100% font on a 1.4 lead ?

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: >> It is a shorthand property for declaring font-size 100% (default) /on/ >> 1.4 lead (no unit of measure is normally needed for lead). >> >> > > And lead is the space between lines? > Why should we put that value? > What means having a 100% font on a 1.4 lead ? > > I realize that

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread MEM
> It is a shorthand property for declaring font-size 100% (default) /on/ > 1.4 lead (no unit of measure is normally needed for lead). > And lead is the space between lines? Why should we put that value? What means having a 100% font on a 1.4 lead ? I realize that the list, couldn't be the plac

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: > Thanks Felix and David, > > Sorry for this late re-reply. :( > > > > What is the meaning/propose of the slash here: > 100%/1.4 ? > > > Thanks a lot for your clarifications on the last e-mail, > Márcio > > > > It is a shorthand property for declaring font-size 100% (default) /on

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-23 Thread MEM
css-discuss.org > Subject: Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element > > On 2010/02/20 07:08 (GMT) MEM composed: > > > I'm asking myself this question and I'm hoping someone could help me > solve it. > > On past posts, we have been talking on applying fo

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/02/20 07:08 (GMT) MEM composed: > I'm asking myself this question and I'm hoping someone could help me solve it. > On past posts, we have been talking on applying font-size to elements that > actually contain text and not, on containers of other elements because, that > could lead to visua

Re: [css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-20 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm asking myself this question and I'm hoping someone could help me solve > it. > On past posts, we have been talking on applying font-size to elements that > actually contain text and not, on containers of other elements because, that > could lead to visual inconsisten

[css-d] font-size property on body element

2010-02-19 Thread MEM
Hello all, I'm asking myself this question and I'm hoping someone could help me solve it. On past posts, we have been talking on applying font-size to elements that actually contain text and not, on containers of other elements because, that could lead to visual inconsistencies and unnecessarily c

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction] - closing this long thread.

2010-01-03 Thread MEM
Too much errors and inconsistencies. I cannot constantly change the structure and ask questions about specific issues at the same time. I'm absolutely "rocking off". Sorry all, Alan, thanks a lot for your template, in order to be able to apply, I would need to print and read line by line. Unfortu

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2010-01-02 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: > Thank you a million, > > Sorry for the absence, I will follow your advices once I can get back > to the computer for more undeless days and nights. > I will give my best. > > > Regards, > Márcio > > > Slow and Steady won the race! Best, Aesop -- http://chelseacree

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2010-01-02 Thread MEM
Thank you a million, Sorry for the absence, I will follow your advices once I can get back to the computer for more undeless days and nights. I will give my best. Regards, Márcio __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2010-01-01 Thread Alan Gresley
MEM wrote: (snip > HOWEVER I need to have equal height columns as well, here: Drop the equal height columns. This is making IE6 show that margin-bottom of 30,000px. > http://www.chequedejeuner.nuvemk.com/educa.infantil (snip) > Dispersing, > Márcio Ok we had. *LESS IS BETTER* This also ap

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-31 Thread David Laakso
MEM wrote: >> > > > Simplifying: > Excellent. Let's think on that, if not actually try it. > > Márcio > > > Do you mean you seek a parent-block that contains four adjacent column-blocks that would appear to be of the same physical height as the parent-block: regardless of the a

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-31 Thread MEM
> > Oh dear new year... > > a) The ul list on the blue column should be vertically centered. > > b) The text of the first item on the ul list on the blue column should > be, top aligned, with the titles of the grey column. > > This could have a min-height defined and should NOT follow the colum

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-31 Thread MEM
Oh dear new year... a) The ul list on the blue column should be vertically centered. b) The text of the first item on the ul list on the blue column should be, top aligned, with the titles of the grey column. This could have a min-height defined and should NOT follow the column height: http://ww

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/12/29 18:22 (GMT) MEM composed: > we cannot > neglect, the fact that big sharks like IBM or Microsoft, Apple... etc... > have, at the moment 1024x in mind... With "big" comes large inertia, meaning it takes long to recognize the need for and implement change. > ...why am I asking about E

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread MEM
Ok I've not augmented the font size, was too late for that. :( I've reduced the em to 2 decimal places. I've placed font-sizes in %. Have removed font-size from containers (it's only on p, and other "transitional" allowed text tags). Added a background color of white to the container. Reduced the

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread MEM
> The best web site designs are resolution agnostic, meaning they work > similarly well regardless of a user's display resolution. Display > resolution > by itself is meaningless. Only when coupled to knowledge of the > display's > size can the knowledge of its resolution become useful. I will tr

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread Alan Gresley
MEM wrote: (snip) > I realize that the site, on 0.75em is still > capable of being seen on lower resolutions (snip) > Thanks again, > Márcio If you are forced to do this, don't use ems, use percent. body {font-size: 75%;} I use ems for widths in navigation items for correct scaling in IE. #na

Re: [css-d] font-size smaller on IE 8 [error correction]

2009-12-29 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/12/29 14:07 (GMT) MEM composed: >> > If we allow the user to zoom, >> You don't have any choice. To be clear, a web browser is a user agent, not a webmaster agent, and is subject to the whims and desires of its user who is in control of it to whatever extent she knows how. >> > and if

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