Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQofallPresidentsofPast 50...

2001-07-17 Thread BB
-Caveat Lector- That's fine. Discuss it forever. Maybe by endless complaining about the outcome, and the facts of the election itself, it will somehow change. It just seems to be the same as fighting the Civil War all over again. "Samantha L." wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > If 8 months or les

Re: [CTRL] Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing

2001-07-17 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- >What you say here is true, except for the part about the Maginot Line. If the Germans had respected Belgium's borders, the Maginot line would have worked. And if my aunt had wheels, she'd be a wagon. >But what about those nations have missile capablity and want to use it? W

[CTRL] Fwd: [CTRL] ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO

2001-07-17 Thread Steve Wilson
I like a scientific skeptic at one time I didnt believe it till I saw it, then Ifound out about one aspect, Greys are probably  cloned cybernetic monkeys.look at my web pages and you'll under stand. Now If your interested in  contacting some one who is living proof of SYNTEL and implants a

[CTRL] NYP: NEW 'TORCH' WOE$

2001-07-17 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/34995.htm New York Post July 16, 2001 NEW 'TORCH' WOE$ By DAN MANGAN A political-action committee that embattled New Jersey Sen. Robert Torricelli formed to fund civic and political discussion groups raised $85,000 - but reportedly has

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- >Got over feeling guilty about things years ago, and I don't feel guilty about that, either. So you're saying you're amoral? http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic scree

[CTRL] TheStar: Police probe hit-man theory in Levy case

2001-07-17 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?GXHC_gx_session_id_=5b62de51 de852b9d&pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=995234611168&c all_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News&col=96879 3972154 Thestar.com News Jul. 16, 2001. 02:00 AM

Re: [CTRL] Agriculture After Global Warming

2001-07-17 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- >Corporations -- a creation of Government -- does NOT possess legalized FORCE. (1.) Tell that to Wackenhut. (2.) Corporations own the government. Ergo, they control the poluce and military. If you don't believe me, try not paying your mortgage and see who the government sides w

[CTRL] UPDATE: CONDIT

2001-07-17 Thread MIKE SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- "Insiders in law enforcement know now that semen has been discovered all over Rep. Condit's apartment from the search this week and the DNA test from this evidential discovery will be quite an eye opener." "Newsweek magazine has "spiked" a story by their top gun investigative rep

[CTRL] Fwd: FBI computers turn up missing

2001-07-17 Thread Aleisha Saba
It is a normal practice when a person is assigned valuable equipment such as lap top computers, a serial number s recorded showing who had what; and as for a gun, well most FBI men I have known when they left their office, there would be nothing laying on a desk or out in the open - where someone

Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton

2001-07-17 Thread Damian B. Cooper
-Caveat Lector- At 06:31 PM 7/17/01 -0700, Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-Caveat Lector- > >>it is an established matter of record that he did so. > > >Cite the quote. > It's somewhere in the Library of Congress. Go look it up. DBC http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCL

Re: [CTRL] ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO

2001-07-17 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Jul 01, at 22:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How can someone who pretends to know so much about science > believe this crazy alien stuff?? Something funny here. > NOT ONE SCIENTIST I KNOW (and I know MANY of the > well-known ones) would do anything but laugh at this

Re: [CTRL] DetroitNews: The Graduation Gap: Colleges' retention of blacks dis...

2001-07-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/16/2001 9:06:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The fact of the matter is that most of these blacks simply don't possess the natural intelligence requred for college, and all this "affirmative action" nonsense is a modern-day attempt

Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton

2001-07-17 Thread Damian B. Cooper
-Caveat Lector- At 10:18 AM 7/17/01 -0400, "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-Caveat Lector- > >DBC - don't quit your day job. You have no future as a researcher or as an >expert in political debate. > >Samantha > Weak, lame, gratuitous personal invective. It's all that liberals have

[CTRL] [Fwd: Boeing 747-400 Used In Anti-Gun Advertisement]

2001-07-17 Thread BB
{Please forward to relevant lists and forums} Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:52:41 -0700 To: Matthew Gaylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "E.J. Totty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: We need to answer the "Brady Campaign". Matt, Please give this as wide a dissemination as you can. Thank you in advance.

Re: [CTRL] Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing

2001-07-17 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Jul 01, at 21:44, Bill Howard wrote: > But what about those nations have missile capablity and want to use it? It is > nice to know that we would have the capability to stop at least some of the > incoming. The problem is that all it takes is one missile getting through to

Re: [CTRL] ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO

2001-07-17 Thread lassey
-Caveat Lector- How can someone who pretends to know so much about science believe this crazy alien stuff?? Something funny here. NOT ONE SCIENTIST I KNOW (and I know MANY of the well-known ones) would do anything but laugh at this. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 04:48:49 -0700 Steve <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens

2001-07-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Steve Wilson How about human rights? MJ What 'human rights'? One's like those outlined in the contradictory Declaration of Human Rights? Steve Wilson How about fair wages for everyone and not exploiting a person because hes an illegal facing shit jobs no one else

[CTRL] Feds Murder US Patriot Ed Pack for Filming WACO

2001-07-17 Thread lloyd
-Caveat Lector- .. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "New Paradigms Posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Wildcat" <[E

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens

2001-07-17 Thread Steve Wilson
How about human rights? How about fair wages for everyone and not exploiting a person because hes  an illegal facing shit jobs no one else wants obviously leaving conditions even worse how about treating people equally? ...Especially hungry and poor children?

[CTRL] DRAC TAX [humour]

2001-07-17 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- DRAC TAX andrew hennessey 7/01 ô¿ô V pistols at dawn back to back with a drac you turn to fire but a psychic attack makes you miss the drac and now you're a snack accident and emergency you stood on a tack but a Drac Quack gives you the fax - they have to amputate bright id

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens

2001-07-17 Thread foxter
This proves to me there isn't much difference between ragging done to Dems and ragging done to Reps . Either way you read this text it sounds like Newspeak.   Were are VALUES in this country, they are MIA.   == AN URGENT MESSAGE from Citizens.AntiClin

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens

2001-07-17 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/17/01 6:41:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << This is a waste of taxpayer money and I'm a taxpayer. I'm tired of paying for their welfare, for their hospitalization, for their children's education etc. These people are criminals entering this country illeg

Re: [CTRL] Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing

2001-07-17 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/17/01 6:35:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << This is Maginot Line thinking. Nobody needs a missile to deliver a nuke or the far more likely CBW. All they need is a suitcase and a drug smuggler's Cessna. >> What you say here is true, except for the part a

[CTRL] Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens

2001-07-17 Thread Tito Hammond
This is a waste of taxpayer money and I'm a taxpayer. I'm tired of paying for their welfare, for their hospitalization, for their children's education etc. These people are criminals entering this country illegally why should they be rewarded for their lack of respect for our laws? If they have

Re: [CTRL] Need for Missile Defense Is Increasing

2001-07-17 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- >People are waking up to our vulnerability to rogue nations with missile capability and a grudge against Uncle Sam – plus a rapidly arming Communist China and some 31 other nations – all with missiles and all with potential for an accidental or grudge launching. This is Maginot

Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton

2001-07-17 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- >it is an established matter of record that he did so. Cite the quote. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!

Re: [CTRL] Agriculture After Global Warming

2001-07-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Someone Asks Do you think that it's possible this entire "Global Warming" thing has been concocted to stampede the people into accepting serious international authority over their lives? Nessie chants We already have serious international authority over their lives.

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/17/01 3:36:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << In short, you've been brainwashed. Get over it. >> In short, adapt or become a footnote in a history book. Got over feeling guilty about things years ago, and I don't feel guilty about that, either. http://www.

Re: [CTRL] Agriculture After Global Warming

2001-07-17 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- >Do you think that it's possible this entire "Global Warming" thing has been concocted to stampede the people into accepting serious international authority over their lives? We already have serious international authority over their lives. It's not the UN. It's the multinationa

[CTRL] 'Crazy Medicine' From Burma Worries Thai Officials

2001-07-17 Thread radman
-Caveat Lector- 'Crazy Medicine' From Burma Worries Thai Officials DOI KIU HUNG, Thailand - In the Golden Triangle, Southeast Asia's poppy-growing heartland, drug warlords have begun producing large quantities of a methamphetamine known as "crazy medicine" that is rivaling the tr

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread Nakano Nakamura
-Caveat Lector- --- Yardbird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But what if the actions taken to save these fish also pose possible species endangering consequences for the birds? ...saving the native wildlife should take priority. _ Nakano comment

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has LowestIQofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years

2001-07-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- BB But consider, government IS big business, Joshua Yes. In a capitalist society where the wealth of the nation is transferred to private enterprises. It doesn't HAVE to be that way. MJ Not in reality, but we can pretend if it makes you feel better. BB an

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...

2001-07-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- thew just a quick note here george w bush was appointed, and not elected MJ Only some Religious Myrmidons chant such absurdity. thew are you saying th4e supreme court didn't appoint bush? MJ The Court has no such Power nor did they usurp such. Regard$, --MJ

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast 50...

2001-07-17 Thread Samantha L.
-Caveat Lector- If 8 months or less is the acceptable shelf-life around here, then we are limited severely in what we are free to discuss. Samantha In a message dated 7/17/01 1:37:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If you'd be so kind, would you please give an estimate o

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- >Can't adapt, too bad. You are the weakest link, goodby! You've been watching too much TV. All those "reality" shows are nothing but propaganda by the elites intended to convince us that social darwinism is natural, necessary, moral and inevitable. In short, you've been brainwas

Re: [CTRL] Special report: global warming

2001-07-17 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > Greenhouse melts Alaska's tribal ways > > > > > Wonder how their ancestors coped with this problem the > last time this happened. This tribe better check their > tribal oral traditions. Since they are still around after > many thousands of ye

[CTRL] WHO'S COMING TO BOHEMIAN GROVE?

2001-07-17 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- PROTEST JULY 14, Monte Rio, CA WHO'S COMING TO BOHEMIAN GROVE? The corporate globalizers and their political hench MEN are coming back to Sonoma County. And it will be just MEN, 2,500 men -- no women allowed in this private club -- who will swarm together at Bohemian Grove on S

Re: [CTRL] Cheney Wants Navy To Foot His Electric Bill!

2001-07-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/17/2001 4:26:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Now, the White House has cited the large and unpredictable energy bills of the vice president's official residence in urging Congress to relieve him of using any of his official budget

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has LowestIQofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years

2001-07-17 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- BB wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Perhaps you are right. > > But consider, government IS big business, Yes. In a capitalist society where the wealth of the nation is transferred to private enterprises. It doesn't HAVE to be that way. > and big business IS > government, and it ha

[CTRL] Understanding Elites.

2001-07-17 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- An American soldier in a hospital explained how he was wounded: He said, "I was told that the way to tell a hostile Vietnamese from a friendly Vietnamese was to shout ‘To hell with Ho Chi Minh!’ If he shoots, he’s unfriendly. So I saw this dude and yelled ‘To hell with Ho Chi Minh

Re: [CTRL] James Bamford & USS Liberty

2001-07-17 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/17/2001 4:39:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << But Bamford's source, the American airman and linguist who recorded those communications, reached an "opposite" conclusion. Marvin E. Nowicki wrote in a letter to the Wall Street Journ

[CTRL] True Words

2001-07-17 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- The individual who dares commit a crime is guilty in a two-fold sense; first, he is guilty against human conscience, and, above all, he is guilty against the State in arrogating to himself one of its most precious privileges. --- Mikhail Bakunin http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.or

[CTRL] ConditWatch- Lie Detector Lies b/w Condit Scandal Goes Baroque

2001-07-17 Thread William Shannon
http://www.counterpunch.org/ Condit in the Headlights Lie Detector Lies We're no fans of the man from Modesto, Gary Condit. But it was troubling to see him being hounded by the cable news shows into taking a polygraph test, and then trashed for using his own polygrapher. Even J. Edgar Hoover

[CTRL] James Bamford & USS Liberty

2001-07-17 Thread William Shannon
BAMFORD "LIBERTY" ACCOUNT REPUDIATED Key aspects of author James Bamford's recent account of the 1967 Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty are being disavowed by some of his own sources. The Liberty, an American spy ship, was sailing in the Mediterranean Sea off the Sinai coast when it was atta

[CTRL] Cheney Wants Navy To Foot His Electric Bill!

2001-07-17 Thread William Shannon
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/17/politics/17MANS.html?todaysheadlines July 17, 2001 Cheney Calls on Navy to Pay Bill to Light His Home By PHILIP SHENON WASHINGTON---Millions of Americans are struggling to cope with sky-high electricity bills for their homes. Among them, it turns out

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/17/01 8:12:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << A species going extinct ,however, is orders of importance greater, than non-endangered individual birds dying. It's more tragic than the loss of a farm, or a thousand birds. It's irrevocable. >> Can't adapt, too

[CTRL] [Fwd: What Johnny learns at school]

2001-07-17 Thread BB
[Note: Judge Robert Bork in wrote, in Slouching Toward Gomorrah, "Now, however, the educational system has become the weapon of choice for modern liberals in their project of dismantling American culture." This use of schools in the dismantling of our culture began with the very beginnin

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQofallPresidentsofPast 50 Years

2001-07-17 Thread BB
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps you are right. But consider, government IS big business, and big business IS government, and it has been so for at least 150 years. They are NOT separate entities. Ever notice, that when a person leaves a high level government, he slides over to a board seat on some huge

[CTRL] Fwd: Condit & the CIA

2001-07-17 Thread Kris Millegan
from website (ciajfk.com) Just a note on Congressman Condit. Did you know that Mr. Condit as a Congressman worked regularly with the Central Intelligence Agency? Yes, he was on the Intelligence Committee of Congress. Today I received a letter from my Congressman saying that

Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted

2001-07-17 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- > > The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed > (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an > endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- H.L. Mencken > This Mencken quote should be chiseled on the Washington monument or

Re: [CTRL] Special report: global warming

2001-07-17 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- > > Greenhouse melts Alaska's tribal ways > > Wonder how their ancestors coped with this problem the last time this happened. This tribe better check their tribal oral traditions. Since they are still around after many thousands of years...they must have successfully dealt with c

[CTRL] Chemtrails- Delivery Systems For Dept. Of Death's Toxic Cocktails

2001-07-17 Thread William Shannon
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20010716.htm From the July 2001 Idaho Observer: Chemtrails: Delivery system for Dept. of Death's toxic cocktails To ignore chemtrails is to pretend that the DOD would never test its chemical and biological weapons on unsuspecting peopleMost people living

[CTRL] Chomsky- Hegemony Or Survival

2001-07-17 Thread William Shannon
http://www.gn.apc.org/cndyorks/yspace/articles/bmd/chomsky.htm July 2001 Hegemony or Survival By Noam Chomsky At the end of June,, the UN Conference on Disarmament concludes the second of its year 2001 sessions. Prospects for any constructive outcome of disarmament efforts are slim. Discussio

[CTRL] Israel Tortures Children

2001-07-17 Thread William Shannon
http://english.hk.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=hke/h eadlines/010715/world/afp/Rights_group_accuses_Israeli_police_of_torturing_Pal estinian_youngsters.html Sunday, July 15 8:46 PM SGT Rights group accuses Israeli police of torturing Palestinian youngsters JERUSALEM

Re: [CTRL] Gays/NAMBLA/Erotica

2001-07-17 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Well June they should market their products in Columbus, Ohio but keep in mind what happened to Larry Flynt for I assure, he had degraded he fancy neighborhood in which he livied, degraded the community, hustled his Hustler Magazine but made one mistake - he was hustlinging into

[CTRL] Is This Really America?

2001-07-17 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Sounds like the Washington D.C. Malcolm X Park or maybe Rock Fork Park? Like a Jack the Ripper they left calling cards Well now that sodomy is acceptable be prepared or the attack of the sodomists for now they are - respectible? Saba Authorities: OC rape suspects left c

[CTRL] Gay Firearms Group Takes Aim at Stereotypes (fwd)

2001-07-17 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-57676jul14.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dpe%2Dcalifornia Gay Firearms Group Takes Aim at Stereotypes * Pink Pistols members train in the proper use of weapons. They say they want to challenge the assumption that gays and l

[CTRL] Asa, the DEA, the news and people's views . . . the emperor wears no clothes

2001-07-17 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10323.shtml Click Here: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10323.shtml";> cannabisnews.com: Drug Agency Nominee Talks Tou… - Posted by FoM on July 16, 2001 at 22:44:24 PT By Donna Leinwand, USA Today Source: USA Today Rep. Asa

[CTRL] Pragmatists, Primitivists, and Watermelons

2001-07-17 Thread Yardbird
Free Congress Foundation's Notable News Now July 17, 2001 The Free Congress Guest Commentary Environmentalism Three Ways: Pragmatists, Primitivists, and Watermelons by Thomas D. Cox As an information technology worker by day (and a crime fighting super-hero by night, but that's another story),

[CTRL] Fwd: [American_Liberty] TWA Flight 800. The Psychology Of A Cover-Up

2001-07-17 Thread Kris Millegan
TWA 800 - Connecting The Dots...The Psychology Of A Cover-Up By James Sanders and Jack Cashill WorldNetDaily.com 7-16-1 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23651 "I've been reading about the Flight 800 cover-up on WorldNetDaily. So far, the facts are convincing that the ev

[CTRL] Fwd: criminals in government

2001-07-17 Thread Kris Millegan
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1734932&a=13344929&p=50833497&Sequence=1&res=high Saved message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jul 17, 2001, 7:43am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 49.86 mhz The Han

[CTRL] Brave New Australia

2001-07-17 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- NATIONAL WATCHMAN UPDATE No 16. Vol 2. DATE : Sunday, July 15, 2001 SUBJECT : A Planned Republic Bringing you step by step to an understanding of the coming New World Order and associated One World Government. Yes, there is time to prepare but you must listen to The National Wat

[CTRL] What Johnny learns at school (fwd)

2001-07-17 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- [Note: Judge Robert Bork in wrote, in Slouching Toward Gomorrah, "Now, however, the educational system has become the weapon of choice for modern liberals in their project of dismantling American culture." This use of schools in the dismantling of our culture began with the ver

[CTRL] Project 137 and Jason from a member

2001-07-17 Thread Dale Stonehouse
-Caveat Lector- Most of the information you see on Jason is from third-hand sources who seem to have a lot of fear of a group of intelligent men who meet to discuss the latest in scientific/military technology. In his book, "Making Weapons, Talking Peace" (1987), Manhattan Project physicist Herbe

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- But what if the actions taken to save these fish also pose possible species endangering consequences for the birds? It's my understanding that the fish in question are not native to Klamath so saving the native wildlife should take priority. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, thew wrote: > -C

[CTRL] Stalin's Dirty Betrayal In Spanish Civil War

2001-07-17 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- July 17, 2001 Deceit in Spanish Civil War Arnold Beichman When Gen. Emilio Mola was asked at the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War in July 1936 which of his four columns he expected would capture Madrid, he replied, "the fifth column." He was, of course, referring to his

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- perhaps you don't quite grasp the difference between individuals dying and extinction. many birds dying sucks, but I for one would say the farmers are important also, lets find some middle ground. A species going extinct ,however, is orders of importance greater, than non-endanger

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- The fish are not unimportant but the whole situation seems to be a case of 'selective empathy' on the part of environmentalists. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, thew wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > ok > now i'm confused > > birds are important , fish are not? > > birds that are in no danger,

Re: [CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers

2001-07-17 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- ok now i'm confused birds are important , fish are not? birds that are in no danger, as a species, are important, but the loss of a species of fish is not? o wait, birds are cuter than fish. that must be it. -- -- -- -- -- Pl

[CTRL] Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers (fwd)

2001-07-17 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Wildlife is Suffering Too, Say Desperate Klamath Farmers By Pat Taylor CNSNews.com Correspondent July 16, 2001 With all hope gone for producing any crops this year, the desperate farmers of Oregon's Klamath Basin are now emphasizing the plight of the wildlife and waterfowl that a

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...

2001-07-17 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- are you saying th4e supreme court didn't appoint bush? Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew > From: "M.

[CTRL] Occult Origins of Power

2001-07-17 Thread Chris Case
-Caveat Lector- Robert Laugherty has written an intriguing short novel, somewhat in the manner of C.S. Lewis's "Screwtape Letters" and Gurdjieff's "Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson", namely as a series of talks from an aging archon of the financial elite and his advisors to the young man bein

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...

2001-07-17 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- thew just a quick note here george w bush was appointed, and not elected MJ Only some Religious Myrmidons chant such absurdity. Regard$, --MJ If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -- Anatole France http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org

Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton

2001-07-17 Thread Samantha L.
-Caveat Lector- DBC - don't quit your day job. You have no future as a researcher or as an expert in political debate. Samantha In a message dated 7/17/01 1:37:29 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > OK, then. In the grand Clintonian style, Prudy stubbornly, futilely, and >

Re: [CTRL] [OT] Report: President Bush Has Lowest IQ ofallPresidentsofPast ...

2001-07-17 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- just a quick note here george w bush was appointed, and not elected now back to your regularly scheduled babble Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTIT

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Condit Is Conservative by Day, Liberal at Night

2001-07-17 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba muddled: >Find this item interesting - Condit lives in this "Bohemian Adams Morgan >District" and little Chandra had out her map on TV of this Klingle >Mansion She didn't have any map out on her TV, she used MapQuest on her PC...and the Klingle M

Re: [CTRL] Israeli Tanks Move Into Hebron

2001-07-17 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- I love this slant why isn't the headline "Palestinians open fire in Israeli settlement and army post" or "Palestinians killed while attempting to bomb peaceful sports rally" ??? did the Palestinian shooters hit anyone in the settlement? I don't know, as usual there is only a bo

Re: [CTRL] Support for Klamath Farmers Grows

2001-07-17 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- oops I forgot this point - so "god" doesn't care about fish? -- --- - "Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it" Elwood P Dowd NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: h

Re: [CTRL] Support for Klamath Farmers Grows

2001-07-17 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- quick question why are the words endangered and threatened in quotes here? the implication is that they are not endangered... how is this so? -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom N

Re: [CTRL] Gays/NAMBLA/Erotica

2001-07-17 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- >Adult Entertainment Event Attracts Conservatives, Too >Los Angeles, Calif. (CNSNews.com) - Erotica-LA, a three-day event at >the Los Angeles Convention Center, is billed as an attempt to "bridge >the chasm between the adult industry and mainstream America." For three >days, more

Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted

2001-07-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL i

[CTRL] ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO

2001-07-17 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:16:26 +1200 From: Misty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:IUFO: ET INSTALLATION IN DULCE, NEW MEXICO To: IUFO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, AltWritersFiles

Re: [CTRL] Global Warming Much Worse Than Predicted

2001-07-17 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- YnrChyldzWyld wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >AMEN AMEN!!! > > > >Sure feels like 'global warming' here in DC. > >59 degrees at night, days in the 70s, no humidity. TOTALLY UNLIKE > >the typical DC July. > > Just to clarify matter

[CTRL] Special report: global warming

2001-07-17 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- --- Senior Staff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > story lead from Victor Rocha...thanks! > www.pechanga.net > > Greenhouse melts Alaska's tribal ways > http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/globalwarming/story/0,7369,522255,00.html > > As climate talks get under way in Bonn today, som

[CTRL] URGENT, Reject Anti-Environmental Nomination.

2001-07-17 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 05:23:09 -0500 From: Humanity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:!b_a_Act: URGENT, Reject Anti-Environmental Nomination. To: The People who care <[EMAI

[CTRL] Naval Strike Launched by Pacifica Resistance

2001-07-17 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:!b_a_Act: Naval Strike Launched by Pacifica Resistance To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Radio Islam: ADL - Portrait of a Hate Group

2001-07-17 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- Saba, Do you hate Jews? Just wondering. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substan

[CTRL] Fwd: Radio Islam: ADL - Portrait of a Hate Group

2001-07-17 Thread Aleisha Saba
http://abbc.com/adl/adlfaces.htm