Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-19 Thread Queribus
-Caveat Lector- AOL User >He was at Pasewalk, Germany Military Reserve Hospital in Oct and Nov l9l8 >diagnosed as probable hysteria. He at that time heard voices saying >providence had selected him to rid Germany of Jews. This corroborated a >prophecy he'd received as young man in Linz. > >So

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-19 Thread AOL User
-Caveat Lector- No, quoting exactly from the Carr book. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-tru

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-19 Thread Dennis, Andrew
-Caveat Lector- >And why ol' Scratch didn't do Hitler any good in getting into art school, >nor helped him out in WWI? > >Seems ol' Splitfoot took his time in getting around to helping his >'disciple' out... ;-) And if satanic assistance gets you into a three-front war with the three most ind

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-18 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 4/17/99 8:09:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << Teo One Thousand wrote: > > > > > > > It is a certainty that the music you speak of does have some effect upon > the > > people who

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-18 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/18/99 10:29:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << But about 20 minutes into the film, it was showing one of these static speech scenes, and I stopped reading the subtitles...now, I don't know German, so I couldn't understand what Hitler

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-18 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/17/99 8:09:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Teo One Thousand wrote: > > > It is a certainty that the music you speak of does have some effect upon the > people who hear it. This is why it was used, just like all of the occult

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-18 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, "Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >AOL User wrote: >> Joseph Carr in "The Twisted Cross" wrote that when Hitler was l2 he was >> listening to some Wagnerian opera and the devil spoke to him and Hitler >> willingly, knowingly asked the devil ins

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-18 Thread revcoal
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, "Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I agree that the power of belief may be the full explanation for the >power derived from these "potions", but I do not discount the >possibility that the power of belief does not in some way link into >other p

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-18 Thread AOL User
-Caveat Lector- I pulled out the book, it looks like the incident at age l2 was not this one. I can't find where that one was. According to the Carr book, paperback version, Chapter "Was Hitler Demon Possessed", pp. 73ff, he went to Wagner's opera, "Rienzi", at the Linz Opera House in November

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-17 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- AOL User wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Have two cents to put in re Hitler being demon possessed. > > Joseph Carr in "The Twisted Cross" wrote that when Hitler was l2 he was > listening to some Wagnerian opera and the devil spoke to him and Hitler > willingly, knowingly asked th

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-17 Thread AOL User
-Caveat Lector- Have two cents to put in re Hitler being demon possessed. Joseph Carr in "The Twisted Cross" wrote that when Hitler was l2 he was listening to some Wagnerian opera and the devil spoke to him and Hitler willingly, knowingly asked the devil inside to take him over. DECLARATION &

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-17 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand wrote: > > > It is a certainty that the music you speak of does have some effect upon the > people who hear it. This is why it was used, just like all of the occult > symbology of the Nazi's. Hitler was portrayed by some, and unfortunately > still is portrayed

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-17 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/16/99 12:21:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << As for the occult. I too have read those books. I did an extensive study of the Holocaust and in arguing with some of the Holocaust deniers I finally came to the realization that they we

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Info on Spear of Destiny]

1999-04-16 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- "Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just ran across a couple of Wagner jokes that I thought might be of > interest. I have seen a movie of Parsifal and have listened to it many > times on records and CDs. It is one of my favorites, but I know that > many don't enj

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-16 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Colleen Jones wrote: > > Hitler, gave the people Wagner; this is wht put them to sleep; after > watching the Ring he knew he could not be a martyer; but as did we, with > propaganda music, we used to send our boys to war on a songthat does > not go over any more as pepole ar

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-16 Thread Colleen Jones
-Caveat Lector- Well, I had to answer you Juneam getting ready to go outthanks for the offer to look up the info. Now as you know, I am not an expert on anything; I am just a researcher into certain areas, who got in deep in some of this stuff re the assassinations. Hitler, gave the p

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-16 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- My brother was at a gym once where kids were working on gymnastics. I believe it was a summer camp. Anyway there the regular pop music of the day on the radio (70s). The coach said to my brother that he was going to show him something interesting. He said notice how well the gymn

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-16 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/16/99 2:48:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The Freemasons didn't exist during Shakespeare's time (altho THEY >might like to claim otherwise, there are no FACTS to support their >existance before the 18th century)... > > >June Well, June there are ACTUAL

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-16 Thread Dennis, Andrew
-Caveat Lector- Of Hitler: >Wagner was his favorite composer, and he not only attended performance of >Wagner, but would listen to him on records when relaxing... There's also the apocryphal tale of Hitler whistling or humming some passage from Wagner, and a staff officer remarking th

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-16 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Colleen Jones wrote: >Now is has been a long time since I read the above book (1980 about) and >hear Wagner's ring. I still have my copy, I believe, if you want me to look anything up... I know my local library still has it, since I noticed it on the she

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-15 Thread Colleen Jones
-Caveat Lector- Now is has been a long time since I read the above book (1980 about) and hear Wagner's ring. But Hitler, hated the maryterhe wanted to be like Klingsor..who wants to be crucified on a cross these days. Jomo Kenyatta.he played the role of a Moses, as did MLK (day

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-15 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- Colleen Jones wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Get the album - rather expensive, get it, tape it, and return itThe > Ring - Wagners Ring..the beautiful Tannhauser, and the ride of the > Valkyreis; now my spelling is off here..this beautiful music is > always reserved

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-15 Thread Colleen Jones
-Caveat Lector- Get the album - rather expensive, get it, tape it, and return itThe Ring - Wagners Ring..the beautiful Tannhauser, and the ride of the Valkyreis; now my spelling is off here..this beautiful music is always reserved for the super rich, while our children are fed garba

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Info on Spear of Destiny]

1999-04-15 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > from: > prioryofsion digest 547 > http://www.onelist.com > > The mailing list resource page can > be found at the following address > http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/ > > Message: 8 >Date: 14 Apr 99 01:04:0

[CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

1999-04-15 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- from: prioryofsion digest 547 http://www.onelist.com The mailing list resource page can be found at the following address http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/ Message: 8 Date: 14 Apr 99 01:04:00 EDT From: xxx Subject: Info on 'Spear of Destiny' > wro