Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-28 Thread Eric Hoffsten
>I will explain: > >First, you are right. Iraq was not a threat. The problem was that Iraq's >government was. The insinuation that Saddam Hussein was not a threat is >absurd. If Saddam Hussein was so non-threatening, the why did the UN >feel the need to pass 71 (http://www.casi.org.uk/info/scriraq.

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-27 Thread flw2
-Caveat Lector- >As a result, if my comments are "naive and simple minded", then > yours must be labeled equally close-minded and arrogant. No. It is perceptive, not close minded and arrogant to recognize a 'naive and simple minded' opinion > It is close-minded and arrogant to base an evaluation

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-27 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/27/2004 4:35:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, you are right. Iraq was not a threat. The problem was that Iraq'sgovernment was. The insinuation that Saddam Hussein was not a threat isabsurd. If Saddam Hussein was so non-threatening

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-27 Thread Dennis L Hitzeman
-Caveat Lector- >> The "right thing to do"? Please explain how invading and occupying a >> sovereign nation while knowing full well that said nation posed absolutely >> no threat to any other nation; simultaneously alienating our allies and >> further infuriating our enemies, resulting in *increa

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-27 Thread Dennis L Hitzeman
-Caveat Lector- >> The naiveté and simple mindedness of the above is disheartening. I cannot accurately respond to an accusation of "naiveté and simple mindedness" with logic and facts because such an accusation is a very subjective thing. Such an accusation is base entirely on the accusers view,

[CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread Ed Raymond
-Caveat Lector- An open letter to "The Senator from Massachusetts" The old hurts are surfacing and the feelings of betrayal by fellow citizens, and their leader stirring them up, are breaking my heart again. I am being cut in the same scar. How did we who served in Vietnam suddenly become

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/26/2004 6:50:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After spending only four months in  the country of Vietnam, John Kerry testified before  Congress in 1971 with these exact words about  incidents he supposedly witnessed or heard about  from

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread flw2
-Caveat Lector- Of course some GI's committed crimes (murder, rape, mutilation) during the V.N. War. Soldiers commit these acts in ALL wars. Such is the human condition and why war is bad and should be avoided. The V.N. War was wrong and stupid. It was one more phase of the Vietnamese war of Inde

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread Joy Williams
-Caveat Lector- To this Green Beret: John Wayne was a very BAD actor as well as an idiot. The only people who love him are gung-ho military types who think it's "cool" or "macho" to have a gun or to be a cowboy. (and call THIS patriotism -- or even worse -- acting). Sorry, that's not patriotic

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread flw2
-Caveat Lector- > John Wayne was a very BAD actor as well as an idiot. John Wayne was a WW II draft dodger who was especially hated by Marines for his role in the "Iwo Jima" movie. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread Joy Williams
-Caveat Lector- wow... Even more reason to not like him :) At 01:58 PM 2/26/2004 -0500, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- > John Wayne was a very BAD actor as well as an idiot. John Wayne was a WW II draft dodger who was especially hated by Marines for his role in the "Iwo Jima" movie. www.ctrl.org DE

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread Joy Williams
-Caveat Lector- At 08:53 AM 2/26/2004 -0500, you wrote: Johnson sent the regular Army into V.N. for one reason only, to cover his ass politically because he desperately feared being accused by the Republicans for 'losing' Indo-China. Johnson's own records show he was told in 1964 V.N. was unwinnab

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread Dennis L Hitzeman
-Caveat Lector- As a current veteran and member of the armed forces, I must at least comment on the two comments below. First, I served in the Southwest Asia Theater during the enforcement period and the recent combat operations. The war in Iraq was nothing- I repeat nothing- like Vietnam. The cu

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread flw2
-Caveat Lector- > Whatever the political reasons may have been for the war in Iraq, > ultimately, it was the right thing to do. Now we have a much better > chance at an endgame than we ever did enforcing international policies > that were never designed to succeed. Do not forget that enforcing tho

Re: [CTRL] Letter to John Kerry

2004-02-26 Thread Eric Hoffsten
-Caveat Lector- >Whatever the political reasons may have been for the war in Iraq, >ultimately, it was the right thing to do. Now we have a much better >chance at an endgame than we ever did enforcing international policies >that were never designed to succeed. Do not forget that enforcing those >