CS: Misc-Nelson

2000-07-18 Thread Vic
From: Vic Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Nelson is there - I would say Nelson was responsible for more death and >depravity than many others - and I'm just talking about the British sailors >who were on his ships. Its OK to have statues honoring warmongers (OK - a >product of his time but a war

CS: Pol-checks and balances

2000-07-18 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] The vast majority of 'Joe Public' I have spoken to don't feel it was a travesty. The majority won. We lost. --and-- No legal system is perfect, all pretty crappy. I've never met anyone, from anywhere in the world, who

CS: Pol-Who to Vote For??

2000-07-18 Thread Tom Charnock
From: "Tom Charnock", [EMAIL PROTECTED] But after carefully selecting the local guy, who shows the best signs of supporting shooting, along comes the Party Machinery" They then end up voting as a block, see the Fox Hunting Bill. None of them will vote "out of line", as they want to be re-se

CS: Pol-The snowdrop campaign

2000-07-18 Thread Alex Hamilton
From: "Alex Hamilton", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I still find it hard to believe that the wrath of the parents >was not directed at the chief constable who made it possible >for the murderer to get his guns. He is an accessory to the >murders as he knew full well the character of that bag of >filth.

CS: Pol-crime stats

2000-07-18 Thread jim.craig
From: "jim.craig", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The thing that worries me about the rise in the violent crime statistics is that if Mr Blair and his cronies feel themselves to be under public criticism for being 'soft on crime' and feel themselves in need of a scapegoat to pummel in order to be seen to be

CS: Legal-Law report

2000-07-18 Thread RustyBullethole
From: RustyBullethole, [EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone followed the reports in Target Gun regarding the charitable status of the Gun Control Network this Law Report - The Times 18.7.00, may be of some interest. Demilitarisation is not a charitable object Southwood and Another

CS: Pol-oxygen of publicity

2000-07-18 Thread nigel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Further to the discussion about advertising, money and the media, here is some more proof that money gets you publicity. Today, I listened to a five minute slot on BBC Radio Lancashire about Lawn Carpet Bowls. Something like that, anyway. Basically, the club had advertis

CS: Pol-Grandmother gives flasher some stick

2000-07-18 Thread nigel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sergeant Andy Green of Belgrave police station said: "She reacted in a way which she saw fit. It's not something we would recommend as a course of action but all credit to her. It could well make him think twice before doing this kind of thing again." The incident happ

CS: Misc-jokes

2000-07-18 Thread nigel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's the one Steve means... A member of the IRA, originally a farmer, has been sent down. After a few weeks, he gets a letter from his wife, back at the farm, telling how she is having troubles without him to help. The time is getting short for planting, and she can't

CS: Misc-chain mail

2000-07-18 Thread Ken
From: Ken Wyatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's ages since I read a dumb question in CS so here goes... Chain mail, a re-enactor friend wishes to make a suit. Does anyone know who still makes it? I look at pictures of the stuff and can't for the life of me imagine how it is made. Your help would be

CS: Pol-Dunblane

2000-07-18 Thread John Sukey
From: "John Sukey", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pardon me if I had the wrong information, but I was led to believe that the Chief Constable and the murderer were both Masons. I was also informed that the chief Constable said he HAD to issue the licence which statement, having read your firearms law is a

CS: Legal-Section 44 appeal

2000-07-18 Thread Jonathan
From: Jonathan Spencer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am about to commence an appeal under Section 44 against Cleveland Police's refusal to vary my FAC to add a cap-and-ball revolver ("muzzle loading gun") for target shooting. I realise that I have to submit a 'Notice of appeal' to the Court, and copy t

CS: Pol-Revolver tribute to shot Beatle

2000-07-18 Thread AnthonyHar
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assuming that Neil Francis is serious in preferring John Lennon to Nelson, it seems a somewhat contentious preference. Lennon was a fair tunesmith - gutsier than McCartney - many of whose songs enlivened our youth, but otherwise unremarkable. Viscount Nelson, on the o

CS: Pol-1,000 protest shootings in Handsworth

2000-07-18 Thread Steven Kendrick
The Birmingham Post 17 July, 2000 1,000 IN GUN PROTEST Almost 1,000 people took to the streets of Handsworth and Lozells in Birmingham at the weekend to voice their anger over the spate of shootings in the area. Community leaders and prominent members of Birmingham's black churches were joined

CS: Pol-Chaotic police records hide true extent of crimewave

2000-07-18 Thread John Hurst
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright 2000 Times Newspapers Ltd. Chaotic police records hide true extent of crimewave BY STEWART TENDLER, CRIME CORRESPONDENT CRIME figures are at least 20 per cent higher than those recorded by the police, according to an independent report due to be

CS: Pol-Nelson and Lennon

2000-07-18 Thread John Sukey
From: "John Sukey", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could not help laughing about Nelson being called a warmonger. Does the writer actually think the military enjoys war! How daft can anyone be? Oh its tommy this and tommy that, and chuck im out, the brute, but its saviour of is country, when the guns beg

CS: Misc-Attack on the Queen mother

2000-07-18 Thread John Sukey
From: "John Sukey", [EMAIL PROTECTED] You almost got it right. Edward VII was the reason that "little Willie didn't start things off until 1914 as he was scaredof his uncle. Edward VIII was was the Nazi lover. Wonder why anyone bothers to read the Manchester Guardian unless its because they m

CS: Pol-The snowdrop campaign

2000-07-18 Thread John Sukey
From: "John Sukey", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still find it hard to believe that the wrath of the parents was not directed at the chief constable who made it possible for the murderer to get his guns. He is an accessory to the murders as he knew full well the character of that bag of filth. I find

CS: Pol-Australia ABS homicide statistics

2000-07-18 Thread SSAA
From: SSAA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ssaa.org.au/homo99.html will take you to the latest ABS statistics on 1999 homicide rates in Australia Statistics issued June 2000 -- And they indicate that firearm-related homicide is rising. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org

CS: Pol-Trafalgar Square Revolver

2000-07-18 Thread Alex Hamilton
From: "Alex Hamilton", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally think we should buy it and stick it at the entrance to Bisley Camp with "In memory of the 57,000 scapegoats of the Dunblane Tragedy" or something engraved on it. Steve. _ I'll go for that and it is t

CS: Pol-legitimate uses

2000-07-18 Thread rastech
From: "rastech", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, >>>So, if vendor 'A' makes firearms for target shooting, and vendor 'B' makes them for hunting, while vendor 'C' makes them for killing people in time of armed conflict, and all are essentially identical, what then is the real purpose of them? Is not the

CS: Pol-Who to Vote For??

2000-07-18 Thread pendrous
From: "pendrous", [EMAIL PROTECTED] By Terry Pendrous, Well how about the UKIP. They may not have many thoughts on our recent betrayal, but at least they havn't been involved. All the rest of the rotten system have. Also===they do have another agenda which I think is VERY important, that c

CS: Pol-Blair's record

2000-07-18 Thread KiPng
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CRACKDOWNS ON CRIME - BUT A MIXED RECORD 170933 JUL 00 By Martin Hickman, Political Correspondent, PA News The thought that the Government was being seen as "soft" on crime must have had Tony Blair tearing his hair out. The Prime Minister has gone to great l

CS: Pol-Dodgy Tank Ammunition

2000-07-18 Thread Richard
From: Richard Barrett, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >FAULTY TANK SHELLS `PUT TROOPS AT RISK' > > > > >snip > >An MoD spokesman told PA News: "We can categorically > >say we have no problems with any in-service propellant > >charge supplied by the Royal Ordnance." > > >Note the exact words, they d

CS: Pol-Grandmother gives flasher some stick

2000-07-18 Thread John Hurst
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grandmother gives flasher some stick by Lee Marlow This is Leicestershire, 10 July 2000 A grandmother who hit an elderly flasher with her walking stick and then kicked him while he was down said today: "I hope it makes him think twice about doing it again

CS: Legal-ECHR

2000-07-18 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I just wish I could have seen the look on Charles Clarke's face when the Crown Court in Birmingham handed down the judgement that speed camera offences violate the right to remain silent. [...] Was that court judgement

CS: Pol-Who to Vote For??

2000-07-18 Thread James
From: James McNair, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A vote for Labour would be a disaster not only for shooters , but for everyone who wants to live their own life. A vote for the Liberals ? well thats not even a question. The Tories , well despite the fact that it was Howard that started this

CS: Pol-I Am Alive, No Thanks to Gun Control

2000-07-18 Thread John Hurst
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I Am Alive, No Thanks to Gun Control by Hillel Goldstein There are times in our lives when many of our most basic assumptions come under a barrage from the heavy artillery of reality. Some of us receive such a wake-up call in the form of a life-threatening

CS: Pol-Democracy

2000-07-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" And frankly democracy stinks anyway, few countries have what could be called democracy, they generally have a republican form of government with certain rules - we don't, which is one of the reasons why we were shafted. Steve. Well Steve, that's a mouthful! I too am

CS: Pol-PNG proposes gun ban

2000-07-18 Thread SSAA
From: SSAA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us pray that the politicians who demand that the Police Commissioner issue them handguns for self defence will be the first to give up their guns in pursuit of a more peaceful society. - Government to introduce tough control law