hi,
Thank you for the reply.
they didn't really explain why; I think it was
leftover
regulations from wartime censorship during World War
II
or the Korean Police Action.
I think so.
Also, in the US, the police can request a mail
cover
(which means recording who all your snail mail
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:21:52AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
| At 03:57 PM 12/19/2002 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
| On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:56:12PM -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
| | I think this would help, but I also think technology is driving a lot of
| | this. You don't have to give a lot
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At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in
the name Doe.
Interesting point on grocery cards... Why do they have your name at
all? Every grocery
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in
the name Doe.
Interesting point on
At 11:02 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:02:48AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
credit card with the name Shostack, and an
How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems
affecting cryptography in general?
By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, genetic
algorithms, chips that learn (like Carver Mead's work), neural
networks, vecor support machines, associative memory, etc.
It seems to
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 11:02 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
But what if this data is used as part of a larger picture, such as in
TIA. It definitely can be used, along with gas purchases, to track
where a suspect, aka a citizen, is living. Also, many possible
weapons such as
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 12:12:02PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
But what if this data is used as part of a larger picture, such as in
TIA. It definitely can be used, along with gas purchases, to track
where a suspect, aka a citizen,
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems
affecting cryptography in general?
By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, genetic
algorithms, chips that learn (like Carver Mead's work), neural
At 11:41 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote:
I only ask this because I'm deciding whether to
study computational neuroscience or cryptography in grad school.
Are you planning to get a PhD and/or do research,
or just a terminal master's degree to do engineering?
If you're planning to
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:02:48AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
| On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
|
| At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
| Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
| credit card with the name Shostack, and an
I recommend Catch Me If You Can, the new Spielberg-DiCapprio-Hanks
movie about Frank W. Abignale, Jr., a true story of how Abignale ran
away from home around 1964, forged checks, posed as an airline copilot,
then as a doctor, then as a lawyer, while honing his craft in forging
and identity
Also, in the US, the police can request a mail cover
(which means recording who all your snail mail is from)
with much less legal formality than a search warrant,
and if they get a warrant to open all your incoming mail,
I don't think they're required to notify you.
Is there a way to
At 12:03 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote:
Yes. So?
Notice that exactly the same type of coupon is printed out with a
cash or non courtesy card purchase. It's a purely local
calculation. In programming terms, a purely local variable
situation.
No. Obviously the coupon was closely linked
At 12:58 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
| At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
| Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
| credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired
At 09:49 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
Interesting point on grocery cards... Why do they have your name at all?
Remember when people used checks and had check cashing cards
at grocery stores? Some grocery store chains used courtesy cards
to replace that function. More
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
| At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
| Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
| credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in
| the name Doe.
|
| Interesting point
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At 12:27 PM 12/31/2002 -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 12:12:02PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
As for your point about prescription drugs, box cutters, kitchen knives
being trackable, I assume this is a troll
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
...
(The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me and
I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to us.)
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
blood of patriots
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 02:23 PM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
...
(The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me
and
I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to
us.)
The tree of
[It will be interesting to see where this could go if Nadar, Demos and
other anti-corporate types take up the banner.]
Corporations shall not be considered to be 'persons' protected by the
Constitution of the United States or the Constitution of the Commonwealth
of Pennsylvania within the
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
Is there a way to RELIABLY find the mail was opened?
There are a variety of plastics and such that will change color and
break-down; the new time-limited DVD's that become unplayable after
some short period of days after opening the air tight
Found another example of crypto use in fiction:
Collected Ghost Stories
The Treasure of Abbot Thomas (1904)
Montague Rhodes James (1862-1936)
ISBN 1-85326-053-3 (Wordsworth Classic, '92)
Apparently some consider James to be the 'finest ghost-story writer
England has ever produced.
--
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 09:57:58AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
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another list. (My mailer has command completion and I am so used to
typing cy in the To: box and having it expand to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] that I sent it to CP by accident. As
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At 5:07 PM +1300 on 1/1/03, Peter Gutmann wrote:
She didn't bat an eyelid,
nor was she concerned that he had the cards and I was buying the
books. Not My Problem.
I'm sure many other people besides myself have had a cashier swipe
her own card
At 12:42 PM +0800 on 1/1/03, Marc de Piolenc wrote:
Who's we, Professor Chomsky? I sure as hell don't call it that, nor
does any free-market advocate that I know. This is simply a Socialist
striking a straw man, nicht wahr?
No. It's a troll by someone who's in almost everyone *else's*
Yemen's said for the first time that it asked the United States to carry
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On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote:
Does a paradox ever help in understanding any thing?
Yes, it can demonstrate that you aren't asking the right questions within
the correct context.
We define a paradox on a base of rules we want to
prove.
No, a paradox is two things we accept that
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Tim May wrote...
I don't believe, necessarily, in certain forms of the Copenhagen
Interpretation, especially anything about signals propagating
instantaneously,
'instantaneously' from -whose- perspective?
Yes, this has been a fashionable set of
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to the movie.The USA is the greatest show on earth and with grifters like
Frank,(and Mongo) who needs fiction?
Frank might have been a fan of the old,'mission impossible' series.He sure
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Chompsky makes the point that the state underwrites the so called free market.
As we are all libertarians,(cept shoate) here we should be doing our utmost
to expose,ridicule,attack and destroy the state,nest pas?
Of the essence of government... it is a thing apart, developing its own
interests
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Matthew X wrote:
Too much egg-nog? Try...
Stoicism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Stoicism is a school of philosophy commonly associated with such
philosophers as Cicero, Seneca, Marcus Aurelius, and Epictetus.
Organized at Athens in the third century B.C.E.
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote:
One way out is to ditch quantum mechanics as being anything near a
description of reality as classical theories in essence are. Tim Boyer
of CUNY and a batch of Italian researchers have done a pretty convincing
job of showing that Ahranov-Bohm can be
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Matthew X wrote:
Isn't it fascinating to see the neo-liberal Choate post marxist stuff here
and relate to this post?
Neo-liberal? What a joke. I'm not a liberal or a conservative.
Do you have a point to make other than name calling?
Typical CACL bullshit.
--
hi,
A few queries.
Does a paradox ever help in understanding any thing?
We define a paradox on a base of rules we want to
prove.
Ok,let me pick an example.
We make a paradox over a statement.
This i found on the net
The following is an implication that the Oracle does
not exist.
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Matthew X wrote:
Anarchism is the belief that people are basically good, (Shoate shite)
Sez who?
Sez you, actually..
A lot of people attracted to anarchism seem to think like Lord
Acton,that power corrupts and the less your average person has over you the
safer
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At 03:57 PM 12/19/2002 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:56:12PM -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
| I think this would help, but I also think technology is driving a lot of
| this. You don't have to give a lot more information to stores today than
| you did twenty years ago for
Tim May wrote...
I don't believe, necessarily, in certain forms of the Copenhagen Interpretation,
especially anything about signals propagating instantaneously, just the quantum
mechanics is about measurables ground truth of what we see, what has never failed us,
what the mathematics tells us
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote:
And this general line of reasoning leads to a Many Worlds Version of
the Fermi Paradox: Why aren't they here?
Why aren't they all where? If they were 'here' then they wouldn't be
another world now would they?
The reason I lean toward the shut up and
hi,
Thank you for the reply.
they didn't really explain why; I think it was
leftover
regulations from wartime censorship during World War
II
or the Korean Police Action.
I think so.
Also, in the US, the police can request a mail
cover
(which means recording who all your snail mail
At 03:07 AM 12/21/2002 -0800, Sarad AV wrote:
hi,
Don't encrypt, post it by snail mail.
I remember reading this in pgp's help document.
It addresses why we glue over our envelope and seal it.
It ofcourse is concealing (for the govt) and privacy (for the user).
The govt. never asks letters not to
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
| At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
| Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
| credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in
| the name Doe.
|
| Interesting point
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in
the name Doe.
Interesting point on
If you are going to drink, don't drive.
--
We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I
are going to spend the rest of our lives.
Criswell, Plan 9 from Outer
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:21:52AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
| At 03:57 PM 12/19/2002 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
| On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:56:12PM -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
| | I think this would help, but I also think technology is driving a lot of
| | this. You don't have to give a lot
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:02:48AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
| On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
|
| At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
| Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
| credit card with the name Shostack, and an
At 12:03 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote:
Yes. So?
Notice that exactly the same type of coupon is printed out with a
cash or non courtesy card purchase. It's a purely local
calculation. In programming terms, a purely local variable
situation.
No. Obviously the coupon was closely linked
At 11:02 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired
I recommend Catch Me If You Can, the new Spielberg-DiCapprio-Hanks
movie about Frank W. Abignale, Jr., a true story of how Abignale ran
away from home around 1964, forged checks, posed as an airline copilot,
then as a doctor, then as a lawyer, while honing his craft in forging
and identity
How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems
affecting cryptography in general?
By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, genetic
algorithms, chips that learn (like Carver Mead's work), neural
networks, vecor support machines, associative memory, etc.
It seems to
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
But what if this data is used as part of a larger picture, such as in
TIA. It definitely can be used, along with gas purchases, to track
where a suspect, aka a citizen, is living. Also, many possible
weapons such as
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
...
(The next time a CP meeting/party is at my house, someone remind me and
I'll put it on. Along with A Beautiful Mind, also of interest to us.)
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the
blood of patriots
Also, in the US, the police can request a mail cover
(which means recording who all your snail mail is from)
with much less legal formality than a search warrant,
and if they get a warrant to open all your incoming mail,
I don't think they're required to notify you.
Is there a way to
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 11:02:48AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
credit card with the name Shostack, and an
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 11:02 -0800 on 12/31/02, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of
At 12:58 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
| At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
| Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
| credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired
At 11:41 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote:
I only ask this because I'm deciding whether to
study computational neuroscience or cryptography in grad school.
Are you planning to get a PhD and/or do research,
or just a terminal master's degree to do engineering?
If you're planning to
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems
affecting cryptography in general?
By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, genetic
algorithms, chips that learn (like Carver Mead's work), neural
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 12:12:02PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
But what if this data is used as part of a larger picture, such as in
TIA. It definitely can be used, along with gas purchases, to track
where a suspect, aka a citizen,
At 12:27 PM 12/31/2002 -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 12:12:02PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote:
As for your point about prescription drugs, box cutters, kitchen knives
being trackable, I assume this is a troll
At 09:49 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
Interesting point on grocery cards... Why do they have your name at all?
Remember when people used checks and had check cashing cards
at grocery stores? Some grocery store chains used courtesy cards
to replace that function. More
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