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Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities"

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Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities"

2003-02-18 Thread Tyler Durden
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Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities"

2003-02-18 Thread Bill Frantz
At 5:53 PM -0800 2/17/03, Tyler Durden wrote: >Any kid coming to school >with a knife or gun gets thrown out, period. Gee, when I was in high school, I was on the high school rifle team. I still have the varsity letter with the crossed rifles on it. Our ammo was paid for by the US military, who

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Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities"

2003-02-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: It goes beyond just the "black leaders" thing--it's also about "black pride." My eye-opening experience was my arrival in college (as Brits would say, "at university") in 1970. Well, this post explains a lot about Tim's attitude. Myself, I never ran into this kind of crap in

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