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Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip (fwd from schoen@loyalty.org)

2003-12-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:32:31 -0800 To: Jason Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip

Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip (fwd from jspence@lightconsulting.com)

2003-12-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
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Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip (fwd from schoen@loyalty.org)

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Re: Speaking of Reason

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Fwd: Speaking of Reason

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Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

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Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip (fwd from schoen@loyalty.org)

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On Dec 12, 2003, at 12:16 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: - Forwarded message from Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:32:31 -0800 To: Jason Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please STOP forwarding traffic from

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Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip (fwd from schoen@loyalty.org)

2003-12-12 Thread Tim May
On Dec 12, 2003, at 5:58 PM, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Tim May wrote: On Dec 12, 2003, at 12:16 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: - Forwarded message from Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:32:31 -0800 To:

The silliness of those who argue that gold is the key to untraceability

2003-12-12 Thread Tim May
On Dec 12, 2003, at 5:59 PM, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 11 Dec 2003 at 21:00, Neil Johnson wrote: Even Ayn Rand weaves this into Atlas Shrugged where the competitors of Reardon Steel get the government to try and force him to give them his formula for his high-strength steel because it's

Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip (fwd from schoen@loyalty.org)

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Tim May wrote: And so why don't you just filter _my_ comments, twit? I choose to read your comments Tim - as I pointed out, we can all make our own decisions as to reading material. It's bad enough that that Eugene Leitl has made himself the new Choate, now you have

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Re: Is Matel Stalinist? - semi-offtopic note

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Re: Stego worm

2003-12-12 Thread Thomas Shaddack
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2003-12-12 Thread Thomas Shaddack
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Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-12 Thread Nostradumbass
From: An Metet [EMAIL PROTECTED] The devil is in details. Given small numbers and absence of any other grouping factor there needs to be an obvious place for ZPs to refer to. Any obvious place that becomes even remotely attractive to ZPs will be immediately raided. If you mean a

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-12 Thread ken
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Sterling makes a comment betraying what Ludwig Von Mises called the anti-capitalist mentality when he quipped to Godwin: Sure, we hate Exxon because they're huge and they're everywhere. He was pointing it out, not preaching it. I think over in Austin they do

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-12 Thread An Metet
The devil is in details. Given small numbers and absence of any other grouping factor there needs to be an obvious place for ZPs to refer to. Any obvious place that becomes even remotely attractive to ZPs will be immediately raided. Because ZPs have potential to be actually dangerous to the

Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On Thursday 11 December 2003 22:00, Neil Johnson wrote: What I object to are corporations who utilize their power (money) to influence governments to make laws that benefit them at the expense of others. - The DMCA - Tariffs AND Free Trade Agreements - H1-B visas And now... tarrifs for

Re: Idea: Using GPG signatures for SSL certificates

2003-12-12 Thread Anonymous
Thomas Shadduck writes: The problem that makes me feel uneasy about SSL is the vulnerability of the certification authorities when they get compromised, everything they signed gets compromised too. Technically this is true, but the only thing that the CA signs is other keys. So it merely

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-12 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:12 PM 12/11/03 -0500, An Metet wrote: Given small numbers and absence of any other grouping factor there needs to be an obvious place for ZPs to refer to. Any obvious place that becomes even remotely attractive to ZPs will be immediately raided. Because ZPs have potential to be actually

Fwd: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-12 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 12/11/2003 5:25:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Better be careful when you say that, or Brin'll fire up his screaming monkey routine at you... I've already had my turn at bat with Brin. He was upset several years ago when I made a few comments

Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip (fwd from schoen@loyalty.org)

2003-12-12 Thread Tim May
On Dec 12, 2003, at 12:16 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: - Forwarded message from Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:32:31 -0800 To: Jason Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please STOP forwarding traffic from

RE: Stego worm

2003-12-12 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:09 PM 12/11/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: As for Variola's comment, you might be right. I just assumed there's some kind of relationship between LSB and those spatial freuencies wherein image information might be stored. Actually, I would still think there's a relationship, in which case an

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 2:58 PM + 12/12/03, ken wrote: Bruce is a lefty, but not a statist rghhht... That's like saying that he's a sow, but not a boar... :-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:19 AM -0800 12/12/03, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Look at Al Q, Inc: you don't need explicit instructions from the Boss to motivate folks to do things. You see who is the enemy, you see opportunity. You don't need permission. Yup. That's the way Reagan operated, too. I'm just finishing up

RE: Has this photo been de-stegoed?

2003-12-12 Thread Trei, Peter
I'm trying to think of a reason why a recipient of a image containing stego'd information would want to keep it around after reading the contained info, with the stego bits overwritten. Why not just (securely) get rid of it? There are tons of sources of unique ephemeral images, such as webcams.

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-12 Thread Nomen Nescio
Another excellent group of potential recruits are prisoners. Especially if you can create a new religious movement teaching them to stop the interracial, intergang fighting and concentrate on their true enemy, the Man. Teach that killing cops, soldiers, any type of government agent, is a holy

RE: Stego worm

2003-12-12 Thread Tyler Durden
Mr Shaddack... That's some interesting thinking there. The interesting thing is that no one might ever even notice the presence of this benevolent worm. It could go pretty much unchecked for a while. As for Variola's comment, you might be right. I just assumed there's some kind of

Re: Is Matel Stalinist?

2003-12-12 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim May wrote... Not only does it not make sense, but clearly this would cause pileups at _some_ stores (too much Spam) and shortages at _other_ stores (still not enough Spam, even with the latest send more Spam to all stores order. The fact that neither shortages nor pileups (that I can see)

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RE: Zombie Patriots and other musings [was: Re: (No Subject)]

2003-12-12 Thread John Kelsey
At 02:07 PM 12/11/03 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: It's worth noting that despite over a decade of this rhetoric, not a single terminally ill American has done this, so far as I am aware. Well, I think for most terminal illnesses, by the time it's obvious you're really not going to live much longer,

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-12 Thread Nostradumbass
Original Message From: Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:32:48 +0100 (CET) The devil is in details. Given small numbers and absence of any other

RE: Zombie Patriots and other musings [was: Re: (No Subject)]

2003-12-12 Thread Nostradumbass
From: John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 02:07 PM 12/11/03 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: It's worth noting that despite over a decade of this rhetoric, not a single terminally ill American has done this, so far as I am aware. Well, I think for most terminal illnesses, by the time it's obvious

Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread Nostradumbass
From: Neil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I object to are corporations who utilize their power (money) to influence governments to make laws that benefit them at the expense of others. - The DMCA - Tariffs AND Free Trade Agreements - H1-B visas Even Ayn Rand weaves this into Atlas

Re: Idea: Using GPG signatures for SSL certificates

2003-12-12 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Thomas Shadduck writes: - cute :) Though I am more often called Shaddup. The problem that makes me feel uneasy about SSL is the vulnerability of the certification authorities when they get compromised, everything they signed gets compromised too. Technically this is

Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 11 Dec 2003 at 23:39, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: And now... tarrifs for filming movies in Canada. Just heard that one on NPR today, and I nearly drove off the road. The plan is to raise the cost of filming in Canada so that there's no longer an economic advantage. Made me want to

Re: [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open Source System-on-Chip (fwd from schoen@loyalty.org)

2003-12-12 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Tim May wrote: On Dec 12, 2003, at 12:16 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: - Forwarded message from Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Seth David Schoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:32:31 -0800 To: Jason Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 11 Dec 2003 at 21:00, Neil Johnson wrote: Even Ayn Rand weaves this into Atlas Shrugged where the competitors of Reardon Steel get the government to try and force him to give them his formula for his high-strength steel because it's putting them out business and unfair. Ah yes,

The silliness of those who argue that gold is the key to untraceability

2003-12-12 Thread Tim May
On Dec 12, 2003, at 5:59 PM, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 11 Dec 2003 at 21:00, Neil Johnson wrote: Even Ayn Rand weaves this into Atlas Shrugged where the competitors of Reardon Steel get the government to try and force him to give them his formula for his high-strength steel because it's

Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 5:59 PM -0800 12/12/03, James A. Donald wrote: Tim has been implying that I am a pinko, gold nut, and randroid, which sort of hints that Ayn Rand is too pink for him. Apparently, he likes his meat burned -- and halfway up the flue... ;-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-12 Thread Anonymous
Nomen pondered: Why robbing banks? Aside from allowing the government to regulate them, what have they done to deserve being robbed Why not? Revolutionaries need money, and the financial sector has always been asshole buddies with the police, politicians, and other pigs.

RE: Zombie Patriots and other musings [was: Re: (No Subject)]

2003-12-12 Thread Anonymous
LEO John Kelsey whined: Well, I think for most terminal illnesses, by the time it's obvious you're really not going to live much longer, you're pretty damned sick. And until then, you'd probably like to make some personal use of what days or weeks you have left doing something like talking

RE: Stego worm

2003-12-12 Thread John Kelsey
At 08:09 PM 12/11/03 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: .. As for Variola's comment, you might be right. I just assumed there's some kind of relationship between LSB and those spatial freuencies wherein image information might be stored. Actually, I would still think there's a relationship, in which

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-12 Thread Nomen Nescio
Anonymous wrote: Nomen pondered: Why robbing banks? Aside from allowing the government to regulate them, what have they done to deserve being robbed Why not? Revolutionaries need money, and the financial sector has always been asshole buddies with the police, politicians, and