Re: Pigs Kill Family Pet

2003-01-15 Thread Petro
| Quit smoking: solution to these problems," | 268d, 14h ago -- Robert Mueller, Director, FBI. | petro@ | bounty.org

Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants

2003-01-15 Thread Petro
ch more interested in breaking things and killing people than in building a big military industrial complex. Wierd but true. -- The difference between math and physics is the difference| Quit smoking: between masturbation and sex.|

Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants

2003-01-15 Thread Petro
catch-22s. -- "Remember, half-measures can be very effective if all you deal | Quit smoking: with are half-wits."--Chris Klein| 268d, 13h ago | petro@ | bounty.org

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-15 Thread Petro
ked both in private industry and in | Quit smoking: academia, whenever I hear about academics wanting to teach | 268d, 13h ago ethics to people in business, I want to puke." | petro@ --Thomas Sowell. | bounty.org

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-15 Thread Petro
e voice of unreason and impatience. Pay no attention when he posts. -- The difference between math and physics is the difference| Quit smoking: between masturbation and sex.| 268d, 13h ago --Paul

Re: Subject: CDR: Re: QM, EPR, A/B

2003-01-14 Thread Petro
crackpot. Now, could someone (else) tell > me if this is really a troll? It's not a troll--at least not the kind you mean. -- By the time you swear you're his/Shivering and sighing, | Quit smoking: And he vows his passion is/Infinite, undying -

Re: BigBrotherWare

2002-12-20 Thread Petro
DE or GNOME. -- I stand on principle, because it's the only place where I| Quit smoking: don't get shit on my boots. | 242d, 9h ago | petro@ | bounty.org

Re: Bruce Schneier hullabaloo

2002-12-20 Thread Petro
of people *waiting* for the justification to start shooting. -- "It is not the function of our government to keep the| Quit smoking: citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the | 242d, 9h ago citizen to keep the government from falling into

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-18 Thread Petro
other than sterilizing the entire planet. Freedom, like security, is a process, a process you cannot stop or you lose it, and when you lose it, it's a lot harder to get back. -- "They can attempt to outlaw weapons but they can't outlaw| Quit smoking: the Platonic Ideal of a weapon and modern technology makes | 240d, 13h ago it absolutely trivial to convert a Platonic Ideal of a | petro@ weapon into an actual weapon whenever one desires." | bounty.org

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-18 Thread Petro
onsidered standup? "if they handled it right..." Ha! -- "The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun." | Quit smoking: -- Richard Buckminster Fuller| 240d, 13h ago

Re: Anonymous blogging and unlicensed medical advice.

2002-12-18 Thread Petro
e forbid any course that says we restrict free speech."| Quit smoking: --Dr. Kathleen Dixon,| 240d, 13h ago Director of Women s Studies, | petro@ Bowling Green State University | bounty.org

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-18 Thread Petro
nds upon the | Quit smoking: character of the user. | 240d, 13h ago --Theodore Roosevelt | petro@ | bounty.org

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-18 Thread Petro
able. More expensive up front, but reusable. -- "To be born free is an accident. | Quit smoking: To live free is a responsibility.| 240d, 13h ago To die free is an obligation." | petro

Re: Short story?

2002-12-16 Thread Petro
ear of death will not prevent dying - but it may prevent | Quit smoking: living." | 238d, 13h ago --Anonymous | petro@ | bounty.org

Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-10-01 Thread Petro
part of hte pattern by wich other people identify you. -- This could be the last day of the rest of your life. | Quit smoking: | 162d, 10h ago | petro@ | bounty.org

Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-09-30 Thread Petro
ouldn't know what to do with a message in S/MIME, much less PGP. (AKA the Fax Effect). -- Johnny had four truckloads of plutonium. Johnny used four| Quit smoking: truckloads of plutonium to light New York City for a year. | 161d, 11h ago Then how many truckloads of plutonium did

Re: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-20 Thread Petro
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002, at 08:27 AM, Greg Newby wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:17:19AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >> The system would eventually include hundreds of cameras, linking >> existing devices in Metro mass transit stations, public schools and >> traffic intersectio

Re: Sheeple Land With Hands on Heads

2002-02-20 Thread Petro
On Monday, February 11, 2002, at 09:50 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: (Yes, I'm a few days behind in my mail). > The ominous trend here is increased docility. The state cannot afford to > acknowledge that there is no defense from attacks by people who are ready > to sacrifice their lives. Th

Re: spam attack on cpunks list

2002-02-06 Thread Petro
On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Jei wrote: > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Tim May wrote: > >> (Yeah, if anyone spots a truly relevant item, commenting on it is >> welcome. Or posting a URL. But simple game theory says that it's best >> that people don't just bounce things they read to our list,

Re: INFO: Intricate Screening Of Fliers In Works

2002-02-05 Thread Petro
On Sunday, February 3, 2002, at 06:41 PM, Tim May wrote: > On Sunday, February 3, 2002, at 01:22 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: >>> "Theoretically, the system could be calibrated to watch for people with >>> links to restaurants or other places thought to be favored by terrorist >>> cells. It might als

Re: Cypherpunk agenda succeeding

2002-02-05 Thread Petro
on demand. For a system that runs for long periods of time: example01: uptime 9:51AM up 292 days, 23:46, 22 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.09, 0.08 [iso:~] petro% uptime 10:41AM up 12 days, 9:12, 7 users, load averages: 0.81, 0.58, 0.44 [petro@lists petro]$ uptime 10:29am up 45 days, 18

Re: Cypherpunk agenda succeeding

2002-02-02 Thread Petro
On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 08:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Encrypted disks are still rare, but that is because raids > that seize people's computers are rare. Of course it is > regrettable that disk encryption is not part of the operating > system -- but if Microsoft put it in before

Re: PGP plugin for Eudora considered excellent

2002-01-30 Thread Petro
On Monday, January 28, 2002, at 09:20 PM, David Honig wrote: > Someone (Eric *) posted recently that there are problems > with Eudora and PGP (tm) plugins. This is not the case. > PGP plugins interoperate *fine* with Eudora (e.g., 3.05) > and require very few extra mouseclicks, even with folks >

Re: USS Greeneville: deadliest thing in the sea

2002-01-28 Thread Petro
On Monday, January 28, 2002, at 11:21 AM, Michael Motyka wrote: > Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >> http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAC0FFG0XC.html >> >> The Greeneville had collided with a Japanese fishing vessel off the >> Hawaiian coast >> on Feb. 9, 2001, leaving nine Japanese dead. A

Re: [DMCA_discuss] Re: Buy DVDs and games abroad - and break the law (fwd)

2002-01-28 Thread Petro
On Sunday, January 27, 2002, at 05:36 AM, Mikko Särelä wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Jei wrote: >> Copyright holder in fact is the same as a publisher (in general terms), >> and >> is just a business entity, which tries to exploit author (it works even >> in >> those cases when author and publ

Re: Thinking outside the box, deviously

2002-01-28 Thread Petro
On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 05:20 PM, Michael Motyka wrote: > Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Michael Motyka wrote: >>> Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Appendix: A math puzzle. Imagine a solid sphere. Maybe the sphere is made of plutonium. A drill bit i

Re: Backscatter X-ray system.

2002-01-21 Thread Petro
On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 10:51 AM, Tim May wrote: > On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 08:19 AM, Trei, Peter wrote: >> http://www.as-e.com/technology/imagebank/Images/ase_10b_b.jpg >> Some of you concealed-carry afficianados might like to look at this >> image. It's a backscatter X-ray photo,

Re: Responsibility.

2002-01-20 Thread Petro
On Thursday, January 17, 2002, at 10:55 AM, Tim May wrote: > On Thursday, January 17, 2002, at 10:14 AM, Aimee Farr wrote: >>> And your insinuation that we are using mattd, for example, as a cat's >>> paw for "violent political action" (?) while "obtaining plausible >>> deniabilty" is pernicious.

Re: One arms violent people with weapons

2002-01-17 Thread Petro
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 06:20 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > German Minister's Interview Rips 911 Case Open > Rumor Mill News Reading Room Forum > Von Buelow: I can state: the planning of the attacks was technically and > organizationally a master achievement. To hijack four huge airplanes

Re: CDR: Rogue terror state violates Geneva Convention

2002-01-14 Thread Petro
On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 07:53 PM, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: > Petro wrote: >> >> On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 04:27 AM, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: >>>> What's good for the goose should be good for the gander, ya? >>> >>> Nonsense. No r

Re: CDR: Rogue terror state violates Geneva Convention

2002-01-14 Thread Petro
On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 04:27 AM, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: >> What's good for the goose should be good for the gander, ya? > > Nonsense. No reasonable definition of criminal conduct would put the US > government and al-Quaeda in the same category. How about Criminal Conduct mean

Re: tree huggers as terrorists

2002-01-12 Thread Petro
On Friday, January 11, 2002, at 09:58 PM, Mark Henderson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 08:02:16PM -0800, Petro wrote: >> destroy this (America) country and our way of life, while the eco-facists >> *do* want to destroy this country and our way of life, but don't come >

Re: Spooky noises and things that go bump in the night

2002-01-11 Thread Petro
hould not kill someone picking up a toy left >>> out in the yard...might be a mistake, he might be trying >>> to return it, etc.). Someone stealing a television or PC >>> has certainly earned killing. > On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 12:39 AM, Petro wrote: >>

Re: more on procmail is not mattd's friend!

2002-01-11 Thread Petro
On Thursday, January 10, 2002, at 08:50 PM, Incognito Innominatus wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Anonymous wrote: > >> Have fun mattd(as I am sure you already are!) >> this script allows anyone to return comments to mattd without effort. > > This, of course, is incredibly rude to the remailer op

Re: tree huggers as terrorists

2002-01-11 Thread Petro
On Thursday, January 10, 2002, at 11:26 AM, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > While even the harshest critics acknowledge that > there is no proportionate comparison between Al > Qaeda and groups like the Earth Liberation Front -- > pa

Re: Spooky noises

2002-01-08 Thread Petro
On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 07:05 PM, Anonymous wrote: > Petro spoke: > >> There are 3 cases why one would keep a loaded firearm in the house >> for self defense--well, at least three, but three general cases is all I >> can think of off the top of my head: > >

Re: End of the IRS??

2002-01-08 Thread Petro
On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 09:00 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: > I've never quite understood how the > amendment-not-ratified-properly-in-1913 > argument is supposed to play out. > If this were 1915 and we suddenly realized that there was some funny > business going on, that would be one thing

Re: Spooky noises and things that go bump in the night

2002-01-08 Thread Petro
On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 04:11 PM, Tim May wrote: > On Monday, January 7, 2002, at 12:39 AM, Petro wrote: >> On Sunday, January 6, 2002, at 06:37 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: >>> Nor do I. If the neighbor's kid wants to steal my >>> overweight television or 23

Re: Choices of small handguns

2002-01-06 Thread Petro
On Wednesday, January 2, 2002, at 09:41 AM, Matthew Gaylor wrote: > At 1:05 AM -0800 1/2/02, Petro wrote: >> The squeeze cock is activated as you draw/grasp the weapon. If >> the burglar is close enough to hear that he is going to notice your >> movement. > >

Re: Applied Digital pushes microchip to plant in foreigners for tracking

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 04:18 PM, Jei wrote: >"Man today is more than ever converging with technology," said > Sullivan, who is CEO of the Palm Beach-based tech company Applied > Digital > Solutions (Nasdaq: ADSX, 45 cents). "I think the positives > overwhelmingly

Re: Choices of small handguns

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Monday, December 31, 2001, at 02:15 PM, Faustine wrote: > Thanks to all for the excellent advice and recommendations. I'm sure > it's > worth taking the time to try them all before deciding, thanks again for > a more > solid place to start. How much time do you have? There

Re: Choices of small handguns

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Monday, December 31, 2001, at 07:13 AM, Matthew Gaylor wrote: > >> It loves being dirty and will shoot on and on >> regardless of what its been through. (Fluted chamber helps here). > > You bring up one of my other objections to the design- The fluted > chamber is tough on the brass. If you

Re: Choices of small handguns

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Monday, December 31, 2001, at 12:01 AM, Black Unicorn wrote: > Ancient German P7 secret: > > You can decock the pistol silently by disengaging the squeeze cock > mechanism > under the trigger guard and flush with the depressed squeeze-cocker > with the > thumb on your free hand and slowly re

Re: Choices of small handguns

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 09:11 PM, Matthew Gaylor wrote: > At 2:53 PM -0800 12/30/01, Tim May wrote: >> * H&K P7, the famous "squeeze-cocker." I had wanted one of these since >> reading about them in 1980, so when H&K was selling a bunch of >> reworked and remarket P7s at a good price (

Re: Choices of small handguns

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 02:53 PM, Tim May wrote: > * H&K P7, the famous "squeeze-cocker." I had wanted one of these since > reading about them in 1980, so when H&K was selling a bunch of reworked > and remarket P7s at a good price ($550 or so), I bought one. Very > elegant, very unusua

Re: CDR: Re: cell phone guns

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Saturday, December 29, 2001, at 06:26 PM, david wrote: > On Saturday 29 December 2001 05:00 pm, Faustine wrote: > >> Hm, whatever works, I guess. Sheer stealth isn't as much a factor for >> me as >> is accuracy, reliability and being able to avoid the "woman with a >> peashooter" image. All

Re: cell phone guns

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 06:01 PM, david wrote: > On Sunday 30 December 2001 07:37 pm, Harmon Seaver wrote: > >> Nobody, but nobody, walks around with an empty chamber, whatever >> the caliber. > > Last I heard the Isreali military still did. An empty chamber was US > military stan

Re: handgun carry

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
On Tuesday, January 1, 2002, at 06:18 PM, david wrote: > The next step is to learn how to get your handgun into action as > rapidly as > possible without shooting yourself in the ass or the foot (which wastes > ammo > and and impairs your ability to survive a shootout). Ideally you should > a

Re: Reg - Linotype copyright action on Adobe-format fonts

2002-01-02 Thread Petro
(Yes, a late reply) On Wednesday, December 19, 2001, at 08:40 AM, David Honig wrote: > At 11:47 PM 12/18/01 -0800, Petro wrote: >> That would be utterly pointless (no pun intended). The value of >> Postscript is that it *isn't* a set of pixels. > > No, it wouldn&#

Re: Wired on e-gold

2001-12-20 Thread Petro
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 06:02 PM, Steve Schear wrote: > At 01:30 AM 12/19/2001 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > >> >> >> Criminals love privacy, they love anonymity. Remailer operators soon >> find >> that a substantial majority of the messages they send contain nothing >> but harrassmen

Re: Nazi dwarf,tom cruise,in singapore.Scientologist City.

2001-12-20 Thread Petro
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 04:53 PM, mattd wrote: > http://theage.com.au/entertainment/2001/12/19/FFXKJ94KCVC.html > > Tom Cruise says Hollywood will stop internet thieves > Wednesday 19 December 2001 > People who download movies off the internet are "thieves" who threaten > the > potenti

Re: Wired on e-gold

2001-12-20 Thread Petro
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 04:30 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Criminals love privacy, they love anonymity. Remailer operators soon > find > that a substantial majority of the messages they send contain nothing > but harrassment and threats. Just how would the remailer operators find

Re: Reg - Linotype copyright action on Adobe-format fonts

2001-12-19 Thread Petro
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 10:12 AM, David Honig wrote: > At 07:35 PM 12/17/01 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: >> "ATM" is "Adobe Type Manager". Linotype is a big font house. >> Intellectual Property laws for fonts are normally even stranger than >> for >> regular material, >> but if any of t

Re: Cypherpunk Ban

2001-12-18 Thread Petro
On Monday, December 17, 2001, at 10:30 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > jya>>I don't recall the rationale used by the USPO to forbid CJ from > posting to cypherpunks. Anybody know the answer to that? > Since when is it unusual to forbid parolees from associating with > unsavory and immoral characters?

Re: Uzbekistan Eyewitnesses See Dozens of US Casualties

2001-12-18 Thread Petro
>> becoming widely known. The US army does underreport >>> wounded, and minimize the severity of wounds, but dead is >>> dead. > On 16 Dec 2001, at 22:48, Petro wrote: >> Of course, sometimes soldiers who die in a place they >> weren't supposed to be com

Re: will the real capitalism please stand up

2001-12-10 Thread Petro
On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 06:58 PM, mattd wrote: > Tim may or a pretender wrote "The solution is obvious: capitalism. The > real one, not the fascist version." > > Objectivism the real thing? How do you separate fascism from > capitalism? If you have to ask, you don't underst

Re: More damage to liberty than I expected.

2001-12-07 Thread Petro
On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 04:51 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > An Metet wrote: >>> Havenco's talked for a while about metastasizing, >>> putting servers in a bunch of places for reliable fast performance >>> for non-critical data and mainly keeping the critical database parts >> There are persisten

Re: CDR: Re: in praise of gold

2001-11-29 Thread Petro
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 07:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Faustine wrote: >>> Not all women are golddiggers. >> They're called 'old maids'. ALL women who are interested in a >> 'relationship' are 'golddiggers' in the sen

Re: HDCP break and DMCA

2001-11-29 Thread Petro
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 10:31 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: > But as I said, most professors are being much more careful about > getting permission beforehand and most copy places are being more > careful about what they sell. If I remember the results correctly, Kinko's keeps tr

Re: CDR: Declans testimony;Clone me!

2001-11-29 Thread Petro
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 05:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, mattd wrote: > >> As an entertainment journalist with a disability > > Talk about massive understatements... More like massively redundant. -- "Remember, half-measures can be very effective if

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-25 Thread Petro
On Saturday, November 24, 2001, at 08:56 PM, scum wrote: > Atheists who claim to be anti-theism are either (a) not > atheists, or (b) mis-understand what theism is. > > If we spend a quality minute in the real world, one or two > things of what capitalism is and what anarchism is not will be evid

Re: Farm Out!

2001-11-22 Thread Petro
On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 01:45 PM, Lou Poppler wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote: > : On Monday, October 22, 2001, at 11:05 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: > : > Ish! I'm getting bummed with NS, but wouldn't use IE on a bet. > Why > : > use a > : > virus magnet? > : The virii ar

Re: Cypherpunk failures

2001-11-22 Thread Petro
On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 01:48 PM, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: > On 19 Nov 2001, at 19:43, Ken Brown wrote: > >> Much too 1990s. These times suit more loyal-sounding names. >> "Programmers Rally Against Terrorism"? > > I wonder how many non-Brits will get this... A few. -- "Remembe

Re: Nuclear Pipe Bombs

2001-11-22 Thread Petro
On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 01:47 PM, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > Ken Brown quoted Tim May (I think) saying: > >>> A way too expensive way to spread mere >>> radiological terror, which could be done >>> much more cheaply and easily by taking >>> spent fuel rods and blowing them up, or >>> just b

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-22 Thread Petro
On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 12:55 PM, Tim May wrote: > On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 12:36 PM, Faustine wrote: <...> >> This applied as well to _new_ banks. This meant that neither the >> customer (Joe Sixpack) nor the branch manager had to be "convinced" or >> "sold" on the importanc

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-22 Thread Petro
On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 10:37 PM, CDR Anonymizer wrote: > At 08:29 PM 11/18/01 -0800, CDR Anonymizer wrote: >> Because they could. > > This goes beyond gratuitous demonstration of power and ability, > there is an economic reason behind it all. > What is / their / economic reason?

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-22 Thread Petro
On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 02:16 PM, Faustine wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > declan wrote: >> Not so with digital cash. It also suffers from deployment problems, of >> course, but far more substantial regulatory ones. You need two >> consenting users -- and a tie-

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-21 Thread Petro
On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 05:49 PM, David Honig wrote: > At 03:15 PM 11/17/01 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: >> on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:36:32PM -0800, alphabeta121 >> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>> what does C-A-C-L stand for? >> >> Crypto-Anarcho Capitalist Libertarian, per archives.

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-21 Thread Petro
On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 09:50 AM, Eric Cordian wrote: > No ones hair is falling out. Really. Well, not from radiation anyway. -- "Remember, half-measures can be very effective if all you deal with are half-wits."--Chris Klein

Re: CDR: Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-21 Thread Petro
On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 07:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (in my perfectly humble hate-group inspired opinion :-). It's also > great > fun watching Jeff and company pretend to be even dumber than your > average > @home luser. What makes you think they're pretending? --

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread Petro
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 09:08 PM, Steve Schear wrote: > At 11:20 PM 11/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: >> \Divide the U-235 into two five pound masses. Beat it evenly into the >> inside of one of your salad bowls. U-235 is malleable like gold so you >> should have no problem shaping it. Do

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-16 Thread Petro
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 08:29 PM, Faustine wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Tim wrote: >> The list has only 5% of the content it had in its glory years, 1992-95. >> And perhaps only 10% of its content in its declining years, 1996-98. >> It's now at about half the

Re: The killing of Bill Cooper and Liquid Metal Embrittlement

2001-11-15 Thread Petro
On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 10:39 AM, Tim May wrote: > > An LME solution smeared along wing or panel sections could cause > catastrophic failure during high stress flight phases, e.g., takeoffs > and, to a lesser extent, landings. We ran a few scenarios about how > easy it would be brin

Re: "Rigorous and objective"

2001-11-14 Thread Petro
On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 12:12 AM, Tim May wrote: > Meanwhile, grey burrowcrats are burrowing into their burrows in D.C., > busily writing "rigorous and objective" reports on the benefits of > welfare and why gun control is cost-effective. Feh. I hope to see the > day when millions o

Re: Sedition

2001-11-12 Thread Petro
On Monday, November 12, 2001, at 03:27 PM, Faustine wrote: > Tim wrote: >> Several of us were in the Sierras this past weekend for a training >> session on weapons use, explosives, terrorism measures, and methods for >> monkey wrenching the U.S. government so as to paralyze its police state >> mov

Re: Sedition

2001-11-12 Thread Petro
On Sunday, November 11, 2001, at 08:35 PM, Anonymous wrote: > >How more noble can a man's life end, then to love his country, or > his cause, his family, his friends -- more than himself? More noble to die in bed of old age, children raised to be self-sufficient and independent, bill

Re: Unsecured Wireless/802.11b/Passwords

2001-11-12 Thread Petro
On Sunday, November 11, 2001, at 07:01 PM, Tim May wrote: > The government agencies are filled with incompetents. Which many of us are thankful for.

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Petro
At 9:22 AM -0700 8/7/01, Tim May wrote: > >(I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) For very limited values of "used", yes. Not often, and not by many, but I'd bet it will build under OS X. -- http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html It i

Re: Star Chamber America

2001-08-08 Thread Petro
At 1:12 PM -0700 8/7/01, John Young wrote: <...> >For those unable to download the Sklyarov images, here is what >the USA's request to seal said: <...> >and arrest warrant be placed under seal to avoid compromising the >investigation or placing any of the agents involved in the investigation >in

Re: Traceable Infrastructure is as vulnerable as traceable messages.

2001-08-06 Thread Petro
At 11:33 AM -0400 8/5/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: >Last I checked, the vast bulk of remailers were in North America and >Europe. Given sufficient provocation (Bush twins kidnapped, Osama >talking biochemwomdterror in DC), I could easily see a coordinated set >of pre-dawn raids to "gather evidence"

RE: Gotti, evidence, case law, remailer practices, civil cases, civility

2001-08-03 Thread Petro
At 8:09 PM -0700 8/2/01, Black Unicorn wrote: >value. (Revisit my IANAL discussion in posts a few days ago in which I >wonder aloud why these posters are taken seriously while the "I am not a >doctor, but" posters are not). Don't know where you've been reading the last 10 years, but i

RE: Spoliation cites

2001-08-03 Thread Petro
At 7:22 PM -0700 8/2/01, Black Unicorn wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On >> Behalf Of Harmon Seaver >> As others have stated, if you don't keep logs, or throw away all >> your reciepts, there's not jack they can do about it. > >Uh,

RE: Gotti, evidence, case law, remailer practices, civil cases, civilit

2001-08-03 Thread Petro
At 12:20 AM -0700 8/3/01, Lucky Green wrote: >Ray wrote: > >> [...] as one who >> is not of the Priveleged Caste in terms of access to legal information, >> (ie, willing to pay thousands of bucks to Westlaw or whoever each >> year) I am grateful to him for passing it on. > >There are Cypherpunk

Re: Spoilation, escrows, courts, pigs.

2001-08-01 Thread Petro
At 3:34 AM -0700 8/1/01, Subcommander Bob wrote: >At 01:31 AM 8/1/01 -0700, Petro wrote: >> >>>I say this is bullshit. By your vague (no plausible cites, just some >1L literatlisms), whispering is spoliation. Failure to archive tape >recordings of conversations is spoliati

Re: Spoilation, escrows, courts, pigs.

2001-08-01 Thread Petro
This is truely humorous. As BU said earlier "You overestimate the average contextual awareness level of the typical cypherpunk reader I think." He's right. At 11:19 PM -0700 7/31/01, Tim May wrote: >At 10:19 PM -0700 7/31/01, Black Unicorn wrote: >>I've seen more of this in the white collar

Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-31 Thread Petro
At 10:29 AM -0700 7/30/01, Black Unicorn wrote: >- Original Message - >> At 7:20 AM -0500 7/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Petro wrote: >> >You are confusing "civilians" and LEOs. Only civilians are held to the >> >

Re: Mr. Wienke, help me out on this -- Re: FW: General Ashcroftmake his move

2001-07-31 Thread Petro
At 7:51 AM -0700 7/30/01, Richard Stevens wrote: >--- Jonathan Wienke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I get the NRA's American Rifleman magazine. The July >> issue also has >> an article about Ashcroft's letter, which does not >> quote the rather >> lengthy footnote. However, it does contain a l

Re: Lasers and ICBMs

2001-07-31 Thread Petro
At 11:39 PM -0700 7/26/01, Alan Olsen wrote: >On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Eugene Leitl wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Tim May wrote: >> > A lot of the calculations being sketched out here, of watts/cm^2, >> > dwell times, gold coatings, etc. are slightly off-base. We've known >> > for 20+ years that the

Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-30 Thread Petro
At 7:20 AM -0500 7/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Petro wrote: > >> >> >a great majority of an LEO's "education" time is spent instructing them on >> >how to determine [decide] what is and is not constitutionally protected &g

RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-27 Thread Petro
At 11:35 PM -0700 7/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >-- >On 24 Jul 2001, at 1:20, Petro wrote: >> And what is the primary responsibility of a soldier? Well, in >> Basic Training I was informed that my basic task was to seek >> out the enemy and destroy him. >> &g

Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime

2001-07-26 Thread Petro
At 7:39 AM -0500 7/24/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> At the risk of going Choatien and stepping far beyond any >> degrees I may have, the position that each and every LEO in this >> country *should* (as opposed to does) decide for himself whether a law >> fits his understanding of the consti

Re: Attention to detail lacking

2001-07-26 Thread Petro
At 8:35 PM -0700 7/24/01, Tim May wrote: >At 8:24 PM -0700 7/24/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I think Choate is much like this tech of mine: Have you ever seen the two of them together? > >(Not that college physics is needed. I should hope not, I've got a Fine Art degree with

Re: Adobe, EFF Call for Dmitry Release

2001-07-26 Thread Petro
made was based on a mis-reading. I *thought* that the short bit I read indicated that when adobe pull the complaint, the charges were dropped. > >-Declan > > >On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 12:59:01AM -0700, Petro wrote: >> >> Not really. It's a vic

Re: Open 802.11b wireless access points and remailers

2001-07-25 Thread Petro
At 10:43 AM -0700 7/24/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Several years ago, there was discussion on the list about creating headless or >throwaway remailers (likely hidden in some institution where they could get power and >net access for a long time until they were discovered)- I didn't spend a lot

Re: Vengeance Against Adobe

2001-07-25 Thread Petro
At 10:21 PM + 7/24/01, Dr. Evil wrote: >Photoshop? We have the gimp. Illustrator? We have Kontour. These >products are all as good as or better than the competing Adobe >products, and they're all free. I won't argue about Kontour, since I haven't used it yet, but xpdf still do

Re: Vengeance Against Adobe

2001-07-25 Thread petro
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 11:03:59AM -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Adobe's fine on the consumption side -- it's customers, as you say, > are fat and happy. But on the production side, Adobe can't take > very many really serious hits. At best, it onl

Re: Vengeance Against Adobe

2001-07-25 Thread Petro
At 9:56 PM -0700 7/23/01, Eric Cordian wrote: >Tim writes: > >> Adobe's use of police state measures to have a minor critic (by their >> own later admission) yanked out of a conference is not likely to be >> forgotten quickly. I expect this will have consequences when they >> eventually resume

Re: A proletariat experiment...

2001-07-25 Thread Petro
>The bottle is a little smaller than a 15 lb bottle, of course the 15 lb's >refers to the weight of the bottle itself, it is closer to 50 lbs if it is >fully charged with carbon dioxide (which we have no way to know whether it >it was charged or what it was (once?) charged with). Well, me

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

2001-07-25 Thread Petro
At 9:21 PM -0500 7/23/01, Jim Choate wrote: >While it's true the hole would have reduced the cushion impact of breaking >the glass it would not have eliminated it. > >NATO says it takes a transfer of approx. 85 Joules to kill. That's ridiculous. There are far too many variables involved

Re: Vengeance Against Adobe

2001-07-25 Thread Petro
At 11:47 PM -0500 7/23/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Tim May wrote: > >> Adobe will be suffering for a long time to come. > >While it is a consummation devoutly to be wished, I predict that the >"backlash" will be gone in a mere matter of weeks, if not days. Let's >face it: t

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