On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 05:05:10PM -0400, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> Some of these can be detected automatically (#5 could be discovered with a
> grep on debian/rules, for example), but some can't.
So, what's the problem? We don't autodetect all of binary dependencies
either. Maintainers generally
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 09:47:33 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>2, so far. maybe more. nowhere near as many as those who want vi in some
>form on the boot disks (which is why we have ae's vi emulation mode
>now...and we'd have elvis-tiny too if we hadn't had
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:54:57PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 09:47:33AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > that extra 30k (if it is actually available on the rescue disk) would be
> > better used either as part of the space needed by elvis-tiny (**) or by
>
> I still don't
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 10:10:56 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>it's not that vi is the only editor which is understood. it's more that
>when you're in a hurry trying to fix some system that has gone down you
>don't have time to mess around learning some st
May I put in a word on behalf of anyone like me who comes from a dos/windows
environment and loves the whole concept of linux and debian in particular
but feels absolutely lost in it? I've spent hours a day for the last few
weeks trying to edit configuration files and cut down the size of log file
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 10:10:56AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> it's more that
> when you're in a hurry trying to fix some system that has gone down you
> don't have time to mess around learning some stupid editor which doesn't
> do any of the things you need it to do.
>
> being restricted to a p
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 03:07:19AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> > Some of these can be detected automatically (#5 could be discovered with a
> > grep on debian/rules, for example), but some can't.
>
> So, what's the problem? We don't autodetect all of binary dependencies
> either. Main
Craig Sanders wrote:
> being restricted to a primitive editor after you have become
> proficient with vi is akin to re-learning how to talk after having a
> stroke...you've lost some really fundamental ability which you take
> for granted.
This sounds like a great arguement to use any editor other
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:40:12AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Well, what can the bootdisk makers say about that, but - who cares?!
> I use joe all the time, but I do not complain that the boot disk
> doesn't contain it, and that I am "restricted to a primitive editor"
> and I have to "think about
A friend recently bought a high-end Dell laptop computer. The model
is the Inspiron 8000, if I recall correctly. It has a hard drive that
is about 9.5 Gb (yes, nearly 10 Gb on a laptop) and fips20.exe seemed
to have some trouble creating a second partition. We wanted to save
the Windows 98 parti
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 03:16:18PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> Well put, Dale. I think you have done the correct thing here. If the
> vi emulation is not sufficiently complete to work as expected of vi,
> and esp. if it's really bad, remove it.
i disagree. while ae's vi emulation is far from pe
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 11:13:29 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>it's called the "rescue" disk for a reason.
Then it should have all the rescue tools on there, not bare minimum.
Wait, that would make it too bit for an install disk, wouldn't it. Either
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> I'm not the only one to be annoyed at the nag messages that are sent out.
> Can the script please be disabled.
Absolutely. I've asked before for the nag widget to be turned off, and I
strongly support turning it off now.
Yes, I have a couple of packag
So it's not a bug and we're satisfied with the following situation?
Some programs from other linux systems or even hamm systems will randomly seg
fault.
If any libraries from other linux distributions or even hamm systems are
present on a potato machine when programs are compiled the result
Leon Breedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Regarding curl, I'll be packaging an SSL enabled version only, as it seems
> that policy doesnt cover a source package building for both US & non-US.
There are a couple packages which do this, mutt-i etc. I think they all make
some minor alteration lik
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:13:29AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > Well, what can the bootdisk makers say about that, but - who cares?!
> > I use joe all the time, but I do not complain that the boot disk
> > doesn't contain it, and that I am "restricted to a primitive editor"
> > and I have to "th
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:38:21AM +0930, Ron wrote:
> > Well, it sounds like you repeated what about a dozen people have already
> > said. The concern is an automated way to generate the depends.
Umm, any purticular reason to that compile-depends must be autogenerated --
why can't they be done ma
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 03:58:32 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
>know ksh scripting. For these people, ae is a perfectly valid editor, not
>too different from vi, joe, pico, ee, or anything similar (by look).
It'd be nice if someone in the free world could package this.
mcrypt is a replacement for the old unix crypt(1). It uses the block
algorithms DES, TripleDES, Blowfish, 3-WAY, SAFER-SK64, SAFER-SK128,
TWOFISH, TEA, RC2, RC6, IDEA and GOST in CBC, OFB, CFB and ECB modes.
It is compatible with the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Apr 28, "Stephen J. Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >The MAIN process runs as root. This is because if it recieves a kill signal
> >it needs to clean up its pid file. Can't do that if it was not root (not
> >without the permissions on /v
> "Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 03:16:18PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
>> Well put, Dale. I think you have done the correct thing here. If
>> the vi emulation is not sufficiently complete to work as expected
>> of vi, and esp. if it's real
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:43:50AM -0400, James Mastros wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:38:21AM +0930, Ron wrote:
> > > Well, it sounds like you repeated what about a dozen people have already
> > > said. The concern is an automated way to generate the depends.
> Umm, any purticular reason to t
On 22 May 1999, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
>
> a) keep ae, but remove the vi emulation mode -- I haven't seen anyone
> claim that ae sans emulation mode is good enough. The list seems to
> agree, the ae maintainer agrees, and it's easy to implement, so I
> suggest this is the course of action we t
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:09:09PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> After all of this I took a look at both ae and ee. Both lack something
> that I think needs to be addressed. AE's movement keys don't appear to have
> any rhyme or reason to them. They're not grouped together and not in any
> dire
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 10:24:17PM -0400, Greg Stark wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> > This is NOT an excuse for running as root. Make it create the pidfile in
> > /var/run/xfstt like other similar programs do.
>
> Couldn't we just set the sticky bit on /var/run ?
No, that cre
So the people who don't see crashes, which version of Netscape are you using?
Do you use java successfully in Netscape? Do you have plugger installed? Do
you have any other plugins installed? Which versions of libc are you using?
# dpkg -l \*netscape\* | grep ^hi
hi netscape-base-4 5
On 22 May 1999, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> Aside from that, I think the best we can hope for is an "expanded
> rescue" situation, i.e., an optional two- or three- floppy rescue
> image, or (Corel is working on this) a rescue system bootable from a
> CD or other media.
I've already done it. My 'rescu
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>I will use equivs to get the skeleton, then change the needed things
>(I think I add an option to specify a README.Debian file on the
>command line or in the control file). equivs builds the package, but
>it leaves the tree. This is the one thing I will ch
Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My plan, back when I was exploring the idea of a US-only package
> and/or derived distribution, was to use shared libraries and create
> a special null Kerberos package which would return error codes, something
> very close to the Kerberos 'bones' packag
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Obviously I've misunderstood the behaviour of Emacs here - I'd assumed
> that the internal form was the same regardless of whether one got
> there via byte-compiling or not. Apparently this isn't the case!
it certainly isn't. I have to question your results too, t
Greg Stark decided to waste my bandwidth saying:
>
> So the people who don't see crashes, which version of Netscape are you using?
> Do you use java successfully in Netscape? Do you have plugger installed? Do
> you have any other plugins installed? Which versions of libc are you using?
>
> # dpkg
Hi,
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> I mean, fix bugs. Then they can be closed. I am aware that
John> not all bugs have easy solutions, but just because the solution
John> isn't easy doesn't mean that it is any less important to fix
John> it.
And unwanted,
Hi,
I'm the maintainer of vdk debian package (vdk is a C++ wrapper over gtk)
and a member of the vdk/vdkbuilder development team. We have released
the vdkbuilder, a nice clone of C++ Builder. Some of the features:
- GPL licence
- GUI designer
- Project manager
- Text Ed
So long as the intent is to allow people to make better decisions
about what distribution to use, instead of simply to switch as many
people as possible to using Debian.
We do not want to switch people if they're better off using some other
distribution, and nor do we wish to waste effort switchin
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:00:19AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> John> I mean, fix bugs. Then they can be closed. I am aware that
> John> not all bugs have easy solutions, but just because the solution
> John> isn't easy doesn't mean
Hi,
>>"Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> i disagree. while ae's vi emulation is far from perfect, it
Craig> should not be removed until there is a replacement which can
Craig> fit on the rescue disk.
That is an opinion. Well, in my opinion we do not need a vi
Hi,
>>"Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> it's not that vi is the only editor which is understood. it's more that
Craig> when you're in a hurry trying to fix some system that has gone down you
Craig> don't have time to mess around learning some stupid editor which doesn
Hi,
>>"Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> you are also making the mistake of assuming that joe is in any
Craig> way a standard tool. it is not. the only two text editors
Craig> which can lay claim to being a standard part of any unix are
Craig> ed and vi.
Histo
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 09:47:33AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > Isn't PICO non-free? (similar to pine). Slap me if I am wrong here.
> >
> > Yes, but it is the standard newbie editor.
>
> it's not debian's standard newbie editor and can't be because it's
> non-free.
>
> end of story. pico is
Steve Lamb wrote:
> Are you sure about that? I moved them into a completely different
> directory and joe didn't complain that they weren't there. It looks like it
> uses the standard termcap/terminfo files.
Hm, very interesting.. Strace shows it never touches them. Oh, I see. if
falls back
Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> Aside from that, I think the best we can hope for is an "expanded
> rescue" situation, i.e., an optional two- or three- floppy rescue
> image, or (Corel is working on this) a rescue system bootable from a
> CD or other media.
I really thing Tom's Root Boot or something simil
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 03:24:57PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Someone wishing to have a reminder of bug status may choose to subscribe
> > to a report.
> >
> > Closing bugs just because you can't fix them is wrong.
>
> I *NEVER* said that one oug
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 09:07:21PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > joe is not discontinued upstream. Joe Allen just hasn't worked on it in
> > 3+ years as he worked on other things. Recent posts from him on
> > comp.editors
> > suggests that he is going to start working on joe again.
>
> That's g
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:17:14PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> The reason it has this problem is because it uses its own special terminal
> data files (/etc/joe/terminfo) instead of the standard ones.
>
> This, FYI, is why I sopped using joe. Not only is it buggy if used from a
> buggy terminal emul
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 03:44:17 -0500, John Foster wrote:
>I don't want to break up this lively discourse but has anyone here tried
>the IshMail Mail client? I am about to try it but want to know if there
>are homemade .debs around or if I will have to
Goswin Brederlow wrote:
> I think its a bad idea to say "You want to access to dpkg, programm in
> XXX". All interaction should be via a call to dpkg itself. Also
> modules should be programs by itself and not linked.
>
> dpkg would then call "dpkg-download-ftp" to download a package via
> ftp, o
On May 23, Peter Moulder wrote:
> We do not want to switch people if they're better off using some other
> distribution, and nor do we wish to waste effort switching someone who
> is equally well off whether they use Debian or some other distribution.
I think the LJ ad would be mainly directed at
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 05:46:29PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> joseph> It didn't work right console, that was my issue. It may work
> joseph> better now, but the thing is still messy and the editor
> joseph> doesn't allow you to do basic editor functions.
>
> How can you sit there, with your b
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:54:57PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > that extra 30k (if it is actually available on the rescue disk) would be
> > better used either as part of the space needed by elvis-tiny (**) or by
>
> I still don't understand the sentiment that people can only understand
> vi. A
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 10:10:56AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > Are other editors really so difficult?
>
> yes. difficult and clumsy and lacking basic functionality.
All that missing functionality in ee (and ae in normal mode) is present
in ae in vi mode? Yeah. You argued that vi mode SHOUL
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:35:37AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> What doesn't ae to? As an editor for a damaged system, it seems to
> work well.
you can't yank lines. you can't cut and paste. you can't exec a program
and have the output inserted in the bufer. you don't have multiple undo
and r
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 03:31:37AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> Okay, let me offer this a bit here... Do the rescue floppies currently
> use libncurses at all? I think they don't.
You're right, they don't.
> Seems that we have to move to 3 floppies for potato anyway because a 2.2
> kernel take
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:46:18AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> > This, FYI, is why I sopped using joe. Not only is it buggy if used from a
> > buggy terminal emulator like windoze telnet, it had occasional bugs running
> > in an xterm (not screen display, but failure to reset the terminal properl
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:40:48AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > and that includes a decent editor.
>
> That rules vi out, then.
for politeness' sake i will interpret your remarks in the most positive
light possible: you are mistaken.
craig
--
craig sanders
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:11:03AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 10:10:56AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > Are other editors really so difficult?
> >
> > yes. difficult and clumsy and lacking basic functionality.
>
> All that missing functionality in ee (and ae in norm
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 20:36:10 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>you can't yank lines.
Joe can do that.
>you can't cut and paste.
Joe can do that.
>you can't exec a program and have the output inserted in the bufer.
Joe can do that.
>you d
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 20:48:50 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>ee, it should be used for something useful - a decent vi, preferably.
Vi isn't useful to a newbie who doesn't know vi. Hell, it isn't useful
to experienced unix people who have never had
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 08:14:32PM -0500, Douglas Bates wrote:
> A friend recently bought a high-end Dell laptop computer. The model
> is the Inspiron 8000, if I recall correctly.
Check out http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~steveh/inspiron/ for notes on
the Inspiron 7000, I think much of the info there
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 19:17:15 -0700, Joel Klecker wrote:
> mcrypt is a replacement for the old unix crypt(1). It uses the block
> algorithms DES, TripleDES, Blowfish, 3-WAY, SAFER-SK64, SAFER-SK128,
> TWOFISH, TEA, RC2, RC6, IDEA and GOST in CBC, OFB, CFB and ECB modes.
I'd love to see it sp
On May 23, Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> /var/run/xfstt like other similar programs do.
>Couldn't we just set the sticky bit on /var/run ?
We don't need another world writeable directory in /var.
--
ciao,
Marco
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Josip Rodin writes:
> On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:13:29AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
[..]
>
> > you are also making the mistake of assuming that joe is in any way a
> > standard tool. it is not. the only two text editors which can lay claim
> > to being a standard p
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There is a libapache-mod-pam, which enables apache auth using PAM
> modules, already packaged. It has some drawbacks due to permissions
> (apache runs as www-data so it cannot access /etc/shadow). This can't
> be avoided however.
Um, doesn't libpwdb take c
* Douglas Bates ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990523 03:30]:
> A friend recently bought a high-end Dell laptop computer. The model
> is the Inspiron 8000, if I recall correctly.
>From the graphics hardware it is an Inspiron 7000, there is no 8000
> Another problem we encountered is in the configuration
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:46:18AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:17:14PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> > The reason it has this problem is because it uses its own special terminal
> > data files (/etc/joe/terminfo) instead of the standard ones.
> >
> > This, FYI, is why I so
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 03:57:02AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
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> On Sun, 23 May 1999 20:48:50 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> >ee, it should be used for something useful - a decent vi, preferably.
>
> Vi isn't useful to a newbie who doesn't kn
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:46:43PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> joe and ae are no more intrinsically friendly, they just have help
> windows at the top of the screen. If we put one in a small vi, would
> that shut you up?
I disagree: a modal editor is intrisically easier to get stuck in,
because
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 09:33:36AM -0400, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > There is a libapache-mod-pam, which enables apache auth using PAM
> > modules, already packaged. It has some drawbacks due to permissions
> > (apache runs as www-data so it cannot acce
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:20:11PM +0200, Guenther Thomsen wrote:
> > > you are also making the mistake of assuming that joe is in any way a
> > > standard tool. it is not. the only two text editors which can lay claim
> > > to being a standard part of any unix are ed and vi.
> >
> > On a rescue
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 09:56:06AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:46:43PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > joe and ae are no more intrinsically friendly, they just have help
> > windows at the top of the screen. If we put one in a small vi, would
> > that shut you up?
>
>
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 05:18:24PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > "Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Philip> How about creating a new section ``profiles'' for them, so
> Philip> that they are all grouped together in dselect ?
>
> I think it's a little too early for new
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:10:01PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
[snip]
> Yes, but we tend to run out quickly, too quickly. A bit of reference,
> CD's (usually a CD sells for about US$2, they cost US$.43 to make last
> time I checked---for a run of 1000), well their donations are pretty
> significan
Greetings!
First, I guess it would be a good idea to introduce me
and the project I'm talking about. I am working as a
Webmaster for a finnish IT company. Our Web Team does all of
the development using Free Software tools, and also participates
actively in some projects in our field, most importan
> The programs have to be relinked with openssl.
Fair enough.
> So, there should be bugs filed against the packages which have to be
> relinked.
While that is true, that still does not prevent someone from
upgrading either the packages which depend upon libssl09 or
libssl09 and not the dependen
As the subject already says, I'm back from my vacation again. I had
a really good time, I'ld like to thank Konstantinos Margaritis
(aka as Feanor on irc) for acting as our tour guide through Athens.
I'm slowly working my way through about 4000 emails now. If you feel
something needs my quick atte
Previously Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> I'm surprised by this attitude; you seem to be suggesting that others
> should not attempt a replacement, as yours already has Wichert's blessing.
Personally I wouldn't mind other similar projects. I do think that
people should give this one a close look before g
Previously Ben Pfaff wrote:
> The corresponding program for configuring Western Digital and SMC
> Ethernet cards (wdsetup) is in netstd. Perhaps this is the approved
> place for such tools?
Or maybe we should move them all to the hwtools package?
Wichert.
--
===
Previously Marco d'Itri wrote:
> What would you all think about a patch to start-stop-daemon to remove
> capabilities from spawned daemons?
> Whith this patch many daemons would not need uid=0 anymore.
You either run with uid=0 and remove capabilities, or run with another
uid and add capabilities.
(I'm coming in late here, but I'll make some remarks anyway. If others
made them as well just ignore me).
A couple of remarks:
* we don't control how mirrors mirror our archives, and we don't want to
create a situation where mirrors need special tools and/or scripts.
(okay, we probably could
Previously Martin Schulze wrote:
> vger
strike strike cross cross, cvs.on.openprojects.net (it moved)
Wichert.
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==
This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman.
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At the moment, all of the Debian-specific development and packaging
tools are scattered around various sections of the archive, some in
base (understandably!), some in devel, some in utils, and probably
others in other sections. But in some sense, they don't belong in any
of them (except for dpkg
Just thought that i would throw my two cents in since i still remember the
switch from DOS/Windows to Linux.
I had some problems with ae on my first install (1.3). I just installed off of
floppies and only new about ae. So i was using it for editing. After i learned
a little about bash i edited my
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 23:46:43 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>joe and ae are no more intrinsically friendly, they just have help
>windows at the top of the screen. If we put one in a small vi, would
>that shut you up?
Nope, because vi also is modal.
Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So the people who don't see crashes, which version of Netscape are you using?
I've tried 4.08, 4.5 and 4.6 (all glibc, "standalone").
> Do you use java successfully in Netscape?
Yes.
> Do you have plugger installed?
No.
> Do you have any other plug
Hi,
>>"Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hamish> What does that treatment involve exactly?
My lawyer says I should not answer this question.
Hamish> Personally I can't see what the fuss is; I'd just delete it if
Hamish> I didn't like it.
Ah, the classic re
On Sun, 23 May 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> A couple of remarks:
> * we don't control how mirrors mirror our archives, and we don't want to
> create a situation where mirrors need special tools and/or scripts.
According to previous posts, our top tier mirrors already run special
software to
Clint Adams writes:
> > So, there should be bugs filed against the packages which have to be
> > relinked.
>
> While that is true, that still does not prevent someone from
> upgrading either the packages which depend upon libssl09 or
> libssl09 and not the dependent packages, thereby breaki
Hi,
>>"Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hamish> What if we make the help text mode-sensitive? eg
Do that, and still have the editor small enough (isn't ae like
25Kb or something?), and then we shall have something to talk
about. In the meanwhile, vi is not an optio
Hi,
>>"Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> ae is an adequate minimal no-frills, no-features text editor.
Bingo. That is what we absolutely need -- the rest of the
features are what you just said -- frills.
Craig> it's better than cat. it's even better than pic
>> "JM" == James Mastros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> A soultion to number 1 that was tossed around included using
JM> libtricks to get a list of files accessed, and is therefor (IIRC)
JM> obselete. (And in any case is prohibitively slow.)
But it would greatly help. And you won't do it every
> > I see two situations up front:
> > - a need to describe the tools needed to build a package
> > (eg. gcc, bison, flex, etc..)
> > - and a need to describe the other source packages or librarys required
> > to build a working binary.
> Why do these need to be treated differently?
The
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:27:57AM +0200, moron wrote:
> I've spent hours a day for the last few
> weeks trying to edit configuration files and cut down the size of log files
> (Am I supposed to do that?) and wishing I had something as intuitive as dos
> edit, where arrow-up goes up one and arrow
> > > Some of these can be detected automatically (#5 could be discovered with a
> > > grep on debian/rules, for example), but some can't.
> >
> > So, what's the problem? We don't autodetect all of binary dependencies
> > either. Maintainers generally know what they need to build their packages
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 11:34:24PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
>"Steve Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> If ee does this (I dunno, but my friend swears by it), then so be it,
>> install it, move on.
>Again, ae is *half* the size of ee, and ee doesn't even offer the
>option of vi emulation. I
On Sun, 23.05.99 14:50 +, Henri Bergius wrote:
> This would make it suitable for the main branch. However, as
> it depends on MySQL (non-free, I guess) at this point it should
> propably be placed in contrib. We are looking to add support
> for other databases and this problem should disappear
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:13:56PM -0400, Greg Stark wrote:
>
> So the people who don't see crashes, which version of Netscape are you using?
> Do you use java successfully in Netscape? Do you have plugger installed? Do
> you have any other plugins installed? Which versions of libc are you using?
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still follow the links to my web page can know I have taken it out)
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> First, I've got photos of the day at LinuxExpo. They're all either
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haha, man, the way my clothes wr
Hi,
I heard that XEmacs 21.1 was released, and http://www.xemacs.org/ is saying
"Current Version: 21.1, released May 14, 1999".
I need xemacs21 Debian package because xemacs20's mule seems to be broken.
When XEmacs21 Debian package will be release?
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I'm working package select-xface.
Liecens: GPL
Package: select-xface
Section: mail
Depends: emacsen
Suggests: x-face-el, bitmap-mule
Description: Insert X-Face mail heaer with viewing and selecting a bitmap.
Insert X-Face Mail/News heaer with viewing and selecting a bitmap.
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Takuro KITAME
new debian package, version 2.0.
size 570634 bytes: control archive= 2271 bytes.
534 bytes,22 lines control
4932 bytes,56 lines md5sums
191 bytes, 6 lines * postinst #!/bin/sh
171 bytes, 6 lines * prerm
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