Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-29 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:05:52PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: I've been thinking about this for a while, but it always seemed like a crazy idea. But it seems other people were thinking about it too, and others like the idea, so I had better post about it. I really like this idea. I had the same

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-23 Thread eric scroger
Joey: I've been thinking about this for a while, but it always seemed like a crazy idea. But it seems other people were thinking about it too, and others like the idea, so I had better post about it. Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site,

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-18 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Wow.. this seemed the kind of message that I usually skip... Why don't we go for a picnic? Let's go to .*World ... as leaving so far automatically makes me like an outcast.. =) But you mean getting the money to actually get all Debian together... wow.. that would be interesting...! So..

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Philip Hands
Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cool idea. But would it help Debian except of being a big social developer event ? Sometimes social functions can lead to increased cooperation. Plus there's the opportunity to discuss technical

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 09:35:50AM -0700, Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote: Is this idea worth pursuing? It's a neat idea, and I'd sure like to meet my fellow Debianers, but I doubt you'll get anybody to pay for it. What about Corel? They're getting a /lot/ from Debian (basing their dist

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Given some of the recent threads, the interactive discussions might need to be conducted on canvas, in the presence of a referee, while wearing padded gloves. ;-) Possibly. I would _hope_, however, that being face to face might have the opposite effect.

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 09:35:50AM -0700, Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote: Is this idea worth pursuing? It's a neat idea, and I'd sure like to meet my fellow Debianers, but I doubt you'll get anybody to pay for it. What about Corel? They're

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Joseph Carter's letter: On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 09:35:50AM -0700, Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote: Is this idea worth pursuing? It's a neat idea, and I'd sure like to meet my fellow Debianers, but I doubt you'll get anybody to pay for it. What

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:05:52PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: The two big questions: Where? Preferably somewhere with a high density of debian developers. The California Bay Area (20 some developers with many more nearby) and the Netherlands come

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On 16 Sep 1999, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: I would _hope_, however, that being face to face might have the opposite effect. Yes, I agree, and in all likelihood I think that's what'll happen. :) -- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( http://www.fluff.org/chris )

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: Having a big convention would be really awfull, but it's difficult to get sponsors and much more difficult to gather developers from all over the world. What about a series of smaller conferences? We can have Debian Europe, Debian America

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam
I love it.. Last time, I went to Paris, it cost me about $450 US for a round trip from Atlanta. I think the fares are cheaper in Winter. Regards, Vaidhy PS: It would be a good idea if we can find out if a trip to Paris and then a train or flight would be cheaper than a direct flight to nl.

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Russell Coker
Where? Preferably somewhere with a high density of debian developers. The California Bay Area (20 some developers with many more nearby) and the Netherlands come to mind. We'd need a map of where people live to make an informed choice.

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Remco van de Meent
Steve Greenland wrote: If 250 attend that's $175k. Plus some unkown amount to rent out a convention center. Something you might consider is that colleges and universities often rent out dorm rooms in the summer. It wouldn't be plush, of course, but you'd probably be able to get a decent

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Chris Rutter
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Remco van de Meent wrote: Uhm, don't forget that in .nl there is only one campus university like the ones widespread in the USA. And moreover (I currently live on that campus) there ain't that many free dorm rooms during summer (people tend to stay on campus during

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:05:52PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Is this idea worth pursuing? If you're crazy enough to pursue it, I'd be crazy enough to go to it. I'm almost positive my instructors would all believe it's a very good thing and be happy to give me assignments ahead of time or whatnot

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 16-Sep-99, 00:05 (CDT), Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Preferably somewhere with a high density of debian developers. The California Bay Area (20 some developers with many more nearby) and the Netherlands come to mind. We'd need a map of

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: I'm figuring around $700 per developer, for plane fare and lodging. That seems low, but if you've actually looked up some prices, I won't argue. I haven't, what's your guestimate? Something you might consider is that colleges and

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Peter Makholm
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site, get to meet each other, really tighten up the gpg web of Great idea. And I will attend if my bank let me do it. Orelse I should just begin to attend some of the

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Chris Rutter
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Joey Hess wrote: Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site, get to meet each other, really tighten up the gpg web of trust, attend talks by developers, discuss important issues in person, and so on? It would really make us

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread KELEMEN Peter
On Thu, 1999-09-16 00:38:35 -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: On the one hand, it's usually cheaper for someone in the US to fly to Europe than the reverse. On the other hand, internal Europe flights tend to be much more expensive than internal US flights. On the gripping hand, trains in Europe

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Peter Makholm
Chris Rutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Problem is there ain't an `average developer' in terms of location, as far as I can see -- they're all over the place. ;-) I'd certainly rather somewhere Scandinavian, probably -- it's nice, clean, historic, etc. -- and closer to home. I'd like to have

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Russell Coker
Wouldn't it be great if all the debian developers could be flown in to a convention site, get to meet each other, really tighten up the gpg web of trust, attend talks by developers, discuss important issues in person, and so on? It would really make us more of a community. You've been

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Christian Meder
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:05:52PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Is this idea worth pursuing? Cool idea. But would it help Debian except of being a big social developer event ? Apart from the organizational problems it would only make sense if there's a track of technical talks about mostly internal

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: Is this idea worth pursuing? It's a neat idea, and I'd sure like to meet my fellow Debianers, but I doubt you'll get anybody to pay for it. What about Corel? They're getting a /lot/ from Debian (basing their dist on it), and while I'm sure

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cool idea. But would it help Debian except of being a big social developer event ? Sometimes social functions can lead to increased cooperation. Plus there's the opportunity to discuss technical issues in a perhaps more interactive medium. Mike.

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-16 Thread Jonathan Walther
I agree, Netherlands is probably best option. It has to be easier to get into than the US. While my work Visa is in process, I don't dare cross the border from Canada for fear it will influence my application negatively. On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: It'd be kinda nifty to do it in