Re: French keyboard PowerBook G4 ( alu ) with KDE

2005-02-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 11:46, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: I've spent hours in xkb trying to get that right (I also have a french keyboard) and never got it 100%... The problem is that you can't really have the option/alt key be both used for the |,{,},... combos, _and_ be the real

Re: French keyboard PowerBook G4 ( alu ) with KDE

2005-02-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Friday 18 February 2005 12:51, Bruno Beaufils wrote: ! I tailored it a little bit in order to get : ... ! - a delete key on Apple key with Fn key (fn apple). In 2.6 kernels, fn-Delete generates Delete. (Delete generates Backspace as expected.) Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: French keyboard PowerBook G4 ( alu ) with KDE

2005-02-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 17 February 2005 12:07, Charles-Edouard Ruault wrote: I've digged around once more in the options of KDE and found promising options in the Keyboard Shortcuts, Modifier Keys of the Control center. There's a Macintosh keyboard option and a MacOS-style modifier usage However when i

Re: Howto Reconfigure Mode_switch for xf86 keyboard?

2004-11-17 Thread Frank Murphy
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Re: I got flash on PPC!

2004-10-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sunday 31 October 2004 7:03, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: I'm not sure whether I got you: I've installed Shockwave flash since long, IIRC: apt-get install swf-player ... Are we talking about different things? What did I miss ??? :) The swf-player is LGPLed, but it doesn't support all of

Re: Frech keyboard with xfree

2004-10-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:15:37 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt said: A common practice also on Macs is to reverse the meaning of Alt Command (Meta) so that the key labelled Alt actually becomes Meta (and does the combo thing for ~ or | still) and Command (Meta) becomes Alt. A common trap that

Re: Frech keyboard with xfree

2004-10-28 Thread Frank Murphy
all GTK+ apps, I think) that mix XKB usage and xlib/xmodmap. There is an XKB keymap project (http://freedesktop.org/Software/XKeyboardConfig) with freedesktop.org that's trying to make sense of this, but different users have very different expectations, so it's hard. Frank -- Frank Murphy

Re: Frech keyboard with xfree

2004-10-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 4:22, Christian Leimer wrote: Jaonary Rabarisoa wrote: Hi all, I've just finish to install debian on my albook 15 :-) . I've used debian-installer pre-rc2 for this and the installation was successfull. The only problem is the keyboard under xfree. With the

pbbuttonsd won't sleep on 2.6.8

2004-10-09 Thread Frank Murphy
When I close the lid of my clamshell G3 iBook, the system doesn't properly sleep like it does on 2.4.25. I've tried it with pmud and pbbuttonsd, and in both cases the screen backlight stays lit. On 2.4.25, I configured pbbuttonsd to sleep when the power button is pressed, and screen shows some

Re: pbbuttonsd won't sleep on 2.6.8

2004-10-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 09 October 2004 3:05, alphac wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: When I close the lid of my clamshell G3 iBook, the system doesn't properly sleep like it does on 2.4.25. I've tried it with pmud and pbbuttonsd, and in both cases the screen backlight stays lit. On 2.4.25, I configured

Re: internet slow with kernel 2.6

2004-10-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Friday 01 October 2004 8:42, Eric Gaumer wrote: I read somewhere that you should add the following line... install ipv6 /bin/true #alias net-pf-10 off# IPv6 ... rather than uncommenting the alias line. The manpage claims this would run /bin/true rather than loading the

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-10-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Friday 01 October 2004 9:40, Roman Zippel wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: When one mounts an hfs filesystem under 2.4, there are a bunch of pseudo-directories with names beginning with a . that give you access to the finder info and the resource forks of all the files. You can access the

Re: internet slow with kernel 2.6

2004-10-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 30 September 2004 10:10, Eric Gaumer wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 00:31, Arne Caspari wrote: Does anybody know how IPv6 can be disabled in Debian correctly ( something like dpkg-reconfigure... )? I used some hack in my startup scripts to make things work IIRC. You should be

Re: X keyboard problem

2004-09-20 Thread Frank Murphy
I helped a local school set up a Linux computer lab. The setup uses X- terminals (netboot, NFS and all that stuff) on Debian unstable. Everything seems to work perfectly but for one small problem - changing keyboard layouts simply doesn't work. Well - in fact even the layout specified in

Re: Laptop Mode

2004-09-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sunday 12 September 2004 9:01, Matthias Grimm wrote: Am Sonntag, 12. September 2004 17:28 schrieb Bryan Forbes: 3. It suggests pbuttonsd, but what does pbuttonsd offer that pmud doesn't offer in regards to laptop mode utilities? Nothing. The laptop-mode-tools recommend a power

Re: xfree86-common upgrade conflict with t1-cyrillic

2004-09-09 Thread Frank Murphy
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Linux kernel image 2.6.8 and unwanted modules and hot keyboard

2004-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
Hi, I run Debian sid on an older model iBook Special Edition (the toilet seat). I recently upgraded my kernel-image from kernel-image-2.4.25-powerpc to kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc. Everything has gone really smoothly, but I have two questions. How do I prevent unwanted modules from being

Re: Linux kernel image 2.6.8 and unwanted modules and hot keyboard

2004-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 10:59, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:27:24PM +0200, Frank Murphy wrote: | What's the best way to disable these modules? modconf will let me remove | the kernel modules (I assume via rmmod underneath) but on reboot, the | modules

Re: Building ALSA for 2.4.25 kernel

2004-03-08 Thread Frank Murphy
Add Sven Luther's repository to your apt sources.list: deb http://people.debian.org/~luther/powerpc/2.4.25-1/ ./ He has put unofficial alsa and mol kernel modules there. I've been using them fine since yesterday. Frank

apt-get problem with ~homedirs?

2003-10-03 Thread Frank Murphy
I just tried to add the unofficial xfce4 deb list to apt's sources.list, but it doesn't work. Then I realized that the line for Michael Däzner's DRI X was failing too. Does anyone else see this when doing apt-get (or aptitude) update? Hit http://people.debian.org ./ Packages Ign

Re: openoffice.org in Sid

2003-10-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 9:36, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Adam Hewitt wrote: I find it hard to believe that everyone who is running Sid has been without Oo for the past two weeks (due to no openoffice.org-bin), can someone tell me what the deal is and what you have

Re: meta key on ibook 2.2 (dual usb)

2003-09-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 18 September 2003 7:34, J. Volkmann wrote: Frank Murphy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) schrieb: What symbol gets sent when you press the Apple-logo key? (Run xev, give focus to the window that comes up, and press the key.) It'll probably be Super_L or Meta_L. (keysym 0xffe7, Meta_L

Re: meta key on ibook 2.2 (dual usb)

2003-09-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 18 September 2003 4:51, J. Volkmann wrote: I have an ibook 2.2 dual usb (the one with the radeon M6LY), and it just ran fine. I used the meta (apple) key with tab to switch my desktops on icewm. But now this doesn't work anymore. I could use them with the use windows keys option in

Re: ALSA Problem

2003-09-18 Thread Frank Murphy
I have been able to get also modules complied for the internal port but a major thing that is very annoying is that the sound fluxuates up and down constantly when listening not matter what app I use.. esp xmms. This happens with GNOME and KDE cd players. I am gathering that it has some

Re: ALSA Problem solved! (Was Re: ALSA problem)

2003-09-17 Thread Frank Murphy
Thanks for the tips, Frank. Works your way (and I'm much happier with that!) Good. Glad to hear it. So, I tried to increase the period. At 100ms, the sound is perfect. The size of the buffer doesn't really matter (though I can't keep it configured below 200ms -- it keeps getting reset

Re: ALSA Problem solved! (Was Re: ALSA problem)

2003-09-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 9:00, Chris Wenn wrote: Thanks for the tips, Frank. Works your way (and I'm much happier with that!) Good. Glad to hear it. Of course, now that I've tried to upgrade to 2.6.0-test5, alsa fails. All the modules are loaded, but theres a boot message saying

Re: ALSA, problem

2003-09-16 Thread Frank Murphy
I assume that you unmuted the necessaty mixers? Run alsamixer to see that none have a MM above the channel. Frank On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:36:30 +1000 (EST), Chris Wenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi I've got ALSA compiled and running on my iBook 2001, but I get no sound from any applications,

Re: ALSA Problem solved! (Was Re: ALSA problem)

2003-09-16 Thread Frank Murphy
In the end, what I needed was the following config lines: [/etc/modutils/alsa] alias char-major-116 snd alias char-major-14 soundcore options snd major=116 cards_limit=4 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias

XMMS and alsa output on sid (goes too fast)

2003-09-15 Thread Frank Murphy
I've been trying to get xmms 1.2.8 working with the now-included ALSA output. I've had ALSA installed here for a while, but have been using the OSS compatability layer (with sucess). Now I'm trying to convert to using ALSA directly. I have an original iBook with the PowerMac DACA sound chip.

Re: macintosh keyboard patches (was: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results))

2003-09-15 Thread Frank Murphy
I was concerned about the keys that differ on an Apple keyboard, compared to a PC keyboard. Like control, option, apple, vs. control, windows, alt, altgt and the other 2 keys. Maybe these can be redefined after including the main rules/xfree86 file. Yes, they can. The number of keys that are

Re: XMMS and alsa output on sid (goes too fast)

2003-09-15 Thread Frank Murphy
It seems that the rate of the sound is 44 kHz, but the sound card expects 44.1 kHz. I mean that the rate of the sound is 48 kHz but the soundcard expects 44.1. Frank

Re: help getting hw-accel OpenGL on Pismo

2003-09-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 12:28, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 02:34, John M. Gabriele wrote: Michel Dnzer wrote: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Rage128 20010405 M3 AGP 1x OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2 That's weird -- should be AGP 2x, no? Only if you

Re: macintosh keyboard patches (was: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results))

2003-08-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 25 August 2003 8:59, Olaf Hering wrote: The non us and de maps need review, but should almost match what MacOS does. So I looked at the extensive diffs you sent, and I have a couple of questions. The first is about the changes you made to the macintosh keycodes file. I like the new

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 25 August 2003 9:57, Andreas Wüst wrote: But hey, thank you very much!! I've now lost a bit track, testing all the new laptop keymap versions and its patches. But from my point of view, this seems to lead to the right solution. I've attached a patch here that should apply to the

Re: ISO_Shift_Level vs. Mode_switch *RETRACTION*

2003-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:20, Frank Murphy wrote: On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:56, Simon Vallet wrote: Mode_switch switches modes (as the name tells) : to get the extended symbol you have to look in the second group, i.e. (this time the good one ;-) : I think that your explaination

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 25 August 2003 11:23, Simon Vallet wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 01:24:17 +0200 Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you send me what you have? (Just reply this time. :) I'd be interested to see it. You did receive my messages, didn't you ? (Because most of the time when

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 25 August 2003 2:55, Michel Dnzer wrote: (How) does this work with layouts other than us? And how do you get laptop with nodeadkeys? It doesn't. Sorry about that. I went to quickly and was seduced by the idea of the variant. :) I've attached a patch that does it more like you had,

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 1:34, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 09:55, Frank Murphy wrote: This should be interesting to anyone with an Apple laptop with the mimized keyboard apple(laptop). It's also mildly interesting to anyone with an Apple desktop keyboard (though it only

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
Speaking of bugs, fn+command generates the same keycode as the eject key in X here, but not in console (showkey shows several keycodes for the eject key) - maybe related to the keypad equal bug you fixed recently? Actually, what does fn+command/logo say for you with showkey (-k -s)? It

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:49, Frank Murphy wrote: However, I don't want to move the 'extended' or 'laptop' into a specific macintosh keymap, like you've done here in us. Why, what's the problem with that? macintosh/us is the basis for all

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:42, Frank Murphy wrote: On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dnzer wrote: BTW, where do you get the Multi_key definition from? Can't seem to find it here. What do you mean? Where do I define it (in the apple file)? No, you don't. Maybe you get

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:58, Simon Vallet wrote: Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to increse that convergence. The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't look totally consistient (INS = Help), but I blame that on the PC-keyboard bias. I'm not sure what you meant here, but on my

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:56, Simon Vallet wrote: Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you're saying that the Insert key is also Help? Does that mean that both are engraved on it, or what is? Yes : it says inser and aide (french keyboard). inser is smaller and at the top of the

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:08, Simon Vallet wrote: what I got here is : key AE01 {type=THREE_LEVEL, [ ampersand, 1, EuroSign ] }; (BTW, X doesn't seem very happy with the 'EuroSign' : what is the correct alias ?) (and this last mapping is arbitrary : I don't have a third symbol

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:06, Michel Dnzer wrote: Ugh, this gets messier the deeper you dig. My motivation is on a sharp decline again. You seem to have a good understanding though, care to fix it once and for all? :) We're really close, I think. Someone can deal with ISO_Shift when she

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:20, Michael Heironimus wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 06:58:44PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote: As far as an Apple keyboard that has an Insert key beneath the Delete key, I don't know. Who on this list has an extended keyboard and can share? I do :-). Again

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:14, Michel Dnzer wrote: I'm curious what those rules will look like though, given the problem below. ... I think @ is in different places as well, e.g. it's on G on the Swiss German keyboard. Yeah. I haven't looked at all the combinations yet. After we've resolved

new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-22 Thread Frank Murphy
Hi all, After the long discussions about the needs of the Apple keyboard, especially the laptops (iBook and PowerBook), I have a new version of the apple symbol map attached here. This should be interesting to anyone with an Apple laptop with the mimized keyboard apple(laptop). It's also

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote: I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key), OK, I got it. It's a bit wierd to get to Mutli_key, but it works OK as a default. I'll probably add another variation

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:40, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dnzer wrote: I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key), OK, I

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 12:52, Andreas Wüst wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote: Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all

Re: Apple laptop kernel keyboard discussion

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 21 August 2003 4:29, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:23, Frank Murphy wrote: Actually, I use it all the time. For a US keyboard, with no special chars engraved on the keys, Multi_key + ^ + u = is the only way to type . So in the US, Mode_switch is rarely used

Re: Apple laptop kernel keyboard discussion

2003-08-21 Thread Frank Murphy
I'm using a US keymap as well, and I have customized the 'a', 'o' and 'u' keys to yield umlauts on the third and fourth level. I mean, Multi_key is clumsy to use, whether it requires shift or not, isn't it? For me to type French, I find that it's better to have the accents in a

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:17, Emmanuel Eckard wrote: On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote: It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed (xev results)

2003-08-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 1:32, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Andreas Wst wrote: fn+alt+6: KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x181, root 0x2d, subw 0x182, time 386835101, (53,50), root:(539,353), state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e,

Re: Meta Alt oh my! (long)

2003-08-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 10:11, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 19:10, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra Em Seg, 2003-08-18 s 18:11, Michel Dnzer escreveu: The logs don't lie I hope that's true in X. I wouldn't hold it as absolute truth, from the experience I have

Re: Supplemental Apple keymap

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 2:50, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:21:43 +0200, Frank Murphy wrote: Also, there's a macos_alt flavor that will change the Alt key to do Mode_switch as is expected outside of the US. I didn't quite got this part

Re: Meta Alt oh my! (long)

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 4:28, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: Latest news... everything works now, in both servers. Great! Now I have: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option

Re: Supplemental Apple keymap

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 4:31, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:35:42 +0200, Frank Murphy wrote: The compose key is Multi_key, which means that to get a key, a combination must be hit. (Multi_key+, then c for ''). This is supposed to change the Alt_L key

Re: Meta Alt oh my! (long)

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Monday 18 August 2003 7:10, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: Em Seg, 2003-08-18 s 18:11, Michel Dnzer escreveu: the keyboard configuration was always identical on server startup (unless the logs contained a relevant difference you didn't post), the difference was likely

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:00, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote: So, the | is between Z and left shift and the §½¶ is left of the 1 on all three keyboards, but on the third-party keyboards, pressing §½¶ generates the symbol from the | key (and vice-versa

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sunday 17 August 2003 10:06, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:00, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: I'd be interested to know what the linux scancodes and X keycodes are for these keys on i386 Linux. Are you able to try

Re: Meta Alt oh my! (long)

2003-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sunday 17 August 2003 1:19, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: Configurations, logs etc follow: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option

Supplemental Apple keymap

2003-08-17 Thread Frank Murphy
I've attached a small symbol keymap to see what folks here think. To use it, copy it to /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/apple and run `setxkbmap -v 6 -symbols 'macintosh/us+apple(laptop)'` I've also put an 'extended' version for desktop keyboards that have Help instead of Insert and other changes.

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-16 Thread Frank Murphy
By Mac keyboard, you seem to mean USB keyboard. No, I mean Mac keyboard, as in keycaps layout. The keys of the third-party keyboards are in the standard PC position, right? They are in the Mac position, since they are meant as replacements for the narrow iMac keyboard by Apple. So,

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote: Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all symbols worked. For example, I could get [ (fn+alt+5), but I couldn't get ] (fn+alt+6). { and } was

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-15 Thread Frank Murphy
And are you dpk-reconfigure-ing xserver-xfree86 every time you change? Both console and X are configured to use PC / standard / finnish-latin1, since I have no use for Apple's own mapping. ... All USB keyboards I currently have are meant to be Mac keyboards (whatever usbmgr reported upon

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 14 August 2003 11:37, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote: Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often used for AltGr on European keyboards

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy
What exactly do you mean by that? Same as in Mac OS? It has very different requirements for modifiers, doesn't it? Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards that ALT-G = @, ALT-8 = {,

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy
Your third-party keyboard should be considered an i386 keyboard, and the Apple keyboard a mac-usb one. The differences there are the locations of the @, which seems to work fine for you. Mainly that and that the Apple/Windows keys and Alt keys are reverted, then the Euro sign appears on

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy
Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards that ALT-G = @, ALT-8 = {, ALT-6 = ],...) ? What about apps which use these combos for something else? I agree that something-G should yield

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-13 Thread Frank Murphy
Option XkbSymbols de_CH+group(switch) Ahh, well, I did (and YES, I did deactivate my .Xmodmap first), but, uhhm, this has to be the so called make-fun-at-your-co-workers-option, no? ;) But serious, the effect was quite interesting. No keys except the number keys were working, not

Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?

2003-08-13 Thread Frank Murphy
Having just substituted the original narrow iMac keyboard with an after-market keyboard, largely because that original keyboard appears unsupported by X11, I find that the Finnish XFree keymap still fails; several keys are where they should not be. I tried the normal i386 keymap, which also

Re: swiss german keyboard config needed

2003-08-13 Thread Frank Murphy
Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often used for AltGr on European keyboards, but are the others used in a standard way? Can't think of much else except UAE wanting right ctrl e.g., I

Re: cannot adjust audio balance with OSS on old iBook

2003-08-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 19 July 2003 9:34, Frank Murphy wrote: Others seeing this? Any ideas where this problem might lie? Because it happens in two audio apps, I imagine it's a lower-level problem. Anyone seeing the same thing with ALSA? Is this one of the round clamshell-style iBooks? I don't

Re: Some sound doesn't work yet

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
Do you have a link of a simple setup with alsa dmix ? All web pages I found are really complicated. Not one that works. I've played with it a bit, but even when I can get it to work, xmms hangs after 3-5 songs. What I've done is put this in my .asoundrc: # use this by specifying plug:mydmix

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 12:41, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:23:21 +0200, Frank Murphy wrote: No, it is not. My point is exactly that xmodmap and altwin:meta_win aren't taking effect in :1, only in :1. So, did you do the above xev on display

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
Funny, this one caused the Apple/Command key to produce M-s, that is, Meta-Super. That is so whack. I'm not getting any of the same results you do. This gives me Alt and Meta as I want them in Emacs, but with an additional strange twist: M-TAB gets captured by Emacs without

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
and ideally also the framebuffer ones? Option UseFBDev does that. OK, I thought about that after hitting the send button. But then again, at the moment the X drivers seem to be more developed than the kernel ones. I guess eventually the kernel drivers should achieve

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 3:25, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 14:45:39 +0200, Michel Dnzer wrote: The X server always uses the same config file (usually /etc/X11/XF86Config-4) unless it's told otherwise. Does it say pc101 or macintosh for XkbModel?

Re: Some sound doesn't work yet

2003-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
However, when playing some sounds I just get lots random noise (a bit like white noise, but less soothing). This happens to the sound-track on mpeg videos when I'm watching them on Kaboodle or Noatun (the media players from KDE 3.1). And also when I try to play MOD files (that's an old 80s

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
Hmm. That it only works on display :0 seems like a bug. Any way to confirm it's a bug? Should I report it to XFree or Debian? Normally to XFree, I'd think. Unless it's a packaging problem. They're responding pretty well to Bugzilla these days (with enough information). But it has

Re: Some sound doesn't work yet

2003-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
I'm just messing about at the moment - trying to find ones that work. Kaboodle and Noatun got installed automatically with KDE 3.. They play MP3s and wavs fine, but when playing mpeg movies, the sound displays the endian problem... Different drivers for the different file-types I guess(?)

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
So, when you run xev and press the left option/alt key, you get something like this: KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x221, root 0x48, subw 0x0, time 71770797, (2,148), root:(574,566), state 0x8, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,

Re: Meta Alt oh my!

2003-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
About X, I did found about alt:swapmeta, and understand it is obsolete. I also found altwin:meta_win, is that the right one to use? Did some experimenting, altwin:meta_win does work, but only for the first server -- I use two servers in this system, started by gdm. Anyone has

Re: X startup... (was Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys)

2003-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 8:03, Thomas Otto wrote: Same here, on an iBook2 700Mhz. I ended up writing my own ~/.Xmodmap which i load when I login. It seems everybody does that, instead of fixing the X keymaps... I'm no better myself. :) But where *is* this keymap that will be read at

Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys

2003-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 6:38, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On 27 Jul 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 05:06, Thomas Otto wrote: I'm missing the bar sign, the @ sign (I had to paste this one from the address in the header), bracketleft, bracketright, EuroSign and I

Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys

2003-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
I don't think this is the problem (are you sure this file is even used with your configuration? :). I'm pretty sure, but not positive. The only files that mention 'macintosh_old' (the other option for this line) are keymap.dir, keymap/macintosh, and rules/xfree86. But the geometry is only

Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys

2003-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 31 July 2003 2:27, Michel Dnzer wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 11:25, Frank Murphy wrote: You've already made contact with _the_ Xkb developer Ivan Pascal, he can answer all your questions about it. I haven't talked with Ivan Pascal. I didn't know there was a _the_ xkb

Re: Keyboard on X with missing keys

2003-07-28 Thread Frank Murphy
I'm missing the bar sign, the @ sign (I had to paste this one from the address in the header), bracketleft, bracketright, EuroSign and I don't know what else on the keyboard on X. Same here, on an iBook2 700Mhz. I ended up writing my own ~/.Xmodmap which i load when I login.

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thursday 24 July 2003 5:00, Steven Schlansker wrote: Amazingly enough, it launched an xterm when I logged in. It seems that gnome-core doesn't get everything you want. Apt-get these, too: apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-panel gnome-session Now the only problem is

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-24 Thread Frank Murphy
It seems that gnome-core doesn't get everything you want. Apt-get these, too: apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-panel gnome-session Got it. OK, the next time you log in, you should get more than just an xterm. I replaced Xpmac with XFree86, and put those kernel

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-24 Thread Frank Murphy
work... Oh well. On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 09:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: It seems that gnome-core doesn't get everything you want. Apt-get these, too: apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-panel gnome-session Got it. OK, the next time you log in, you

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-24 Thread Frank Murphy
I'm surprised that XFree86 doesn't downgrade automatically though. Why? The X server generally tries to behave as requested, and if that's not possible, it aborts. Even if you don't like this policy, and assuming that it knows that the depth causes the problem (I doubt it, but I have to

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
The Opt-F1,F2,etc trick wasn't working, and neither does this. I think that the Xpmac server doesn't allow this ctrl-opt-F1 trick (but it is Control and Opt and Function key; I assume you typoed that above.) To those who wanted the logs, it was actually at /var/log/xdm.log And, to those who

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
I turned authorization off as you said, and now I get a cooler-looking login screen, along with a little output-only console in the bottom right. When I enter my name/pass, the console prints (xdm) session opened by uid and the rest is cut off at the edge of the screen. The screen

Re: X Won't Log In

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 4:48, Steven Schlansker wrote: Kernel options? Where do I set those? I set the video driver to the framebuffer one (fbdev I think) but it doesn't work. (in the real XFree86 that is) - I'll try to set the video=valkyriefb as soon as someone tells me where I set the

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
But Xpmac is unsupported in Debian (which is why you had to compile it yourself), so that means that valkyrie video devices are unsupported in Debian. Unsupported? The fbdev driver should work with it, at least with valkyriefb. Ah OK. So Xpmac is unsupported, but valkyrie devices are

Re: X Won't Log In

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
XFree86 running. Frank On Tuesday 22 July 2003 7:45, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2003 4:48, Steven Schlansker wrote: Kernel options? Where do I set those? I set the video driver to the framebuffer one (fbdev I think) but it doesn't work. (in the real XFree86 that is) - I'll try

Re: X won't log in (was Re: Xpmac can't find font 'fixed')

2003-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
This does look like a problem: Xsession: unable to start X session; no /home/steven/.xsession file, no /home/steven/.Xsession file, no session managers, no window managers, and no terminal emulators found. Aborting. Seems that you don't have any X programs installed. I don't know if you

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