Boot hangs with 16M ram

1996-09-10 Thread Miro Torrielli
My debian box doesn't seem to be able to boot with 16 megs ram!! Dos and windows works fine, but Linux just hangs after it does partition check. I boot with lilo, using both kernels 2.0.17 18. The basic Debian boot disks crash when mounting the ramdisk, dumping register values and informing me

Re: Booting problems

1996-09-10 Thread David C. Winters
From: David C. Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm running into a problem with one, lone Linux box right now. After the BIOS bootstraps, the drive and CD-ROM and recognized, and the 3.5 floppy is seen, instead of saying LILO as a preface to LILO's booting into Linux, the following comes up:

Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-10 Thread Joey Hess
Hm, I also tried to subscribe mailing to the listserver. I did this because of the following text in http://www.debian.org/1.1/release.html To subscribe to the mailing lists, send the word subscribe to one of these addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also didn't receive an answer.

dvilj and dvips-problems

1996-09-10 Thread Johann Spies
Thanks to everyone who helped me on documentation for beginners on LaTeX. I would be glad if anyone can help me with the following: Everytime when I try to use dvilj or dvips I get a lot of error messages like the following:

Re: Debian (not Linux) newbie

1996-09-10 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
I can't help you there. While I use (and maintain) tob and afio, I never use muti-volume backups as I do them off-line anyway. I just define my backup volumes such that they will fit on one 170 MB tape. That holds /etc, /home and /usr/local, which is all I need. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel

Re: Base system installation

1996-09-10 Thread Bruce Perens
The unresolved symbols messages are harmless (unless you want to use nfs or the de4x5, in which case you end up rebuilding the kernel). 20 minutes, huh? You did create and activate your swap partition, didn't you? You can consider your installation successful. Bruce

Debian (not Linux) newbie

1996-09-10 Thread bob . billson
@SUBJECT:Debian (not Linux) newbie question #2 N Hi again all... Question #2 of problems getting Debian install. I tried a test install of Pacific Hi-Tech's Debian 1.1.1 CD-ROM on another hard drive (not the one I'm trying to backup) on Friday. All went okay until I got

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Bruce Perens
[Trying to find which major-10 device he's opening] sim:~# ls /dev | grep 10, Oops. Make that ls -l /dev | grep 10, Bruce

Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-10 Thread Bruce Perens
We are in the process of moving the mailing list from its site in Sweden back to the U.S. The current list manager is so swamped with work that he doesn't answer my mail. Thanks Bruce

Debian (not Linux) newbie

1996-09-10 Thread bob . billson
@SUBJECT:Debian (not Linux) newbie question #1 N Hi all, I've been running Linux for almost a year now. I started with Slackware, moved to Red Hat 3.0.3 now I want to move to Debian. I will be moving Red Hat to another machine once I get Debian configured the way I want.

Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-10 Thread Ed Donovan
I thought you were just supposed to mail Bruce, directly. I haven't ever tried to get on, though... -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

kernel compile problem

1996-09-10 Thread Guillermo Solis
i everybody. I want to update my linux kernel to one which can run ELF format. I get the linux kernel 2.0.18 i think is the newest version??. when i try to compile i receive a message on the screen telling me gcc is to old. Then i get the new gcc version and when i try ro run it a see a new

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
I assume that Bruce meant $ ls -l /dev | grep 10, which yields: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l /dev|grep 10, crw-rw 1 root sys 10, 134 Dec 31 1969 apm_bios crw-rw-rw- 1 root sys 10, 3 Dec 31 1969 atibm crw-rw 1 root audio 10, 128 Dec 31 1969

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi, Sep 9 03:53:44 sim modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10 You are running kerneld. You go to open a character device with major number 10. There is no driver for the device and kerneld tries to load it. char-major-10 is handled by the drivers/char/misc.o (which will be

Debian 1.1.8 and two ethercards ?

1996-09-10 Thread J. H. Julkunen
As I'm mirroring the Debian site, the system is upgraded if I install something new which happens quite frequently as the systems are new and the required software base has quite not stabilzed yet. However, it seems like something has happened in the last fixes or so as my second ethernet device

Re: Unidentified subject!

1996-09-10 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Jan -- You asked: where did mkdosfs go? It got swallowed up into dosfstools, which is in the rex (unstable) distribution. Good luck, Susan Kleinmann

V2.0.x kernel stability

1996-09-10 Thread David C P Gray
I am trying to install the Debian 1.1 system and am having some serious stability problems. My apologies if this has been discussed on the list already, but I am fast running out of ideas and have not been able to find any hints in the list archives. The symptoms of the problem are that the

Debian 1.1.8 and two ethercards ?

1996-09-10 Thread Heikki Julkunen
As I'm mirroring the Debian site, the system is upgraded if I install something new which happens quite frequently as the systems are new and the required software base has quite not stabilzed yet. However, it seems like something has happened in the last fixes or so as my second ethernet device

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Boris -- Bruce suggested: brucels /dev |grep 10, Try instead: ls -l /dev | grep 10, Good luck, Susan Kleinmann

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: sgkHi Boris -- sgkTry instead: sgkls -l /dev | grep 10, thks alot all! we solved it with bruce. (well - kinda) *bow* Regards borik ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject

Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-10 Thread Marcelo Zacarias
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Christopher R. Hertel wrote: On Sep 8, 9:27am, Bill Roman wrote: Subject: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape) : : I've tried Mosaic (2.7 beta), but it's rather dated (no frames, for : one thing). I've heard good comments about Grail (python based) but not

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-10 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high level of technical discussion that sometimes goes on there. Is it time to split the list? About 2 years ago I proposed a separate list just for people trying to install the system.

Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-10 Thread Shaya Potter
I hate to post a me too message, but I am having the same problems. I posted a little while ago about it, but I don't remember any body getting back to me about it. Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Joey Hess wrote: I'm a new debian developer, and though

Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-10 Thread Shaya Potter
If you want to view it that way, graphics were not html, they were a Mosiac'ism. Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Christopher R. Hertel wrote: On Sep 8, 9:27am, Bill Roman wrote: Subject: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape) : : I've tried Mosaic (2.7

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi, so is it 10, / 10 ? ls -l /dev |grep 10, From: /usr/src/linux/Documantation/devices.txt: 10 charNon-serial mice, misc features 0 = /dev/logibm Logitech bus mouse 1 = /dev/psauxPS/2-style mouse port 2 =

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Christian Hudon
On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Boris Beletsky wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: listsalias char-major-10-0 busmouse listsalias char-major-10-1 psaux listsalias char-major-10-2 msbusmouse listsalias char-major-10-4 amigamouse listsalias

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: lists 10 charNon-serial mice, misc features what i have here is a simple serial mouse i don't understand why is this device was requested in the first place listsBTW: if you add the alias for char-major-10

-lX11 problem

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- hello compilong xjed i got this wierd error - --- ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory - --- the reason it's wierd that i do have xlibs and include files installed thks for u're time borik ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key,

corrupt filesystem superblock

1996-09-10 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
My laptop doesn't boot Linux on hda3 anymore. I just installed a new system by overwriting the swap partition on hda2. My first attempt of running e2fsck gives: The filesystem superblock is corrupt. Try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock using the -b option. (8193 is

ppp: ip-up, ip-down

1996-09-10 Thread Marek Duszynski
Hi, Can anybody send me some example /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down with short discription of what they do please ? Also, how can I execute /usr/sbin/xbase-configure for the second time (on already configured and running system). Nothing happens when I try executing it. Is there a lock file

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi, how exactly i add the alias : alias char-major-10 char-major-10-%d ? add in /etc/conf.modules: alias char-major-10 misc or even better load misc.o from /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/misc.o (or /lib/modues/current/misc/mic.o) This module will request itself the char-major-10-%d modules and

Re: kernel compile problem

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Guillermo Solis wrote: gsolisI want to update my linux kernel to one which can run gsolisELF format. I get the linux kernel 2.0.18 i think is the newest gsolisversion??. yes, but that will change gsoliswhen i try to compile i receive a

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: listsadd in /etc/conf.modules: listsalias char-major-10 misc how about : alias char-major-10 off ? cause i realy don't have non serial mice Regards borik ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key,

Re: gcc can't find termcap library

1996-09-10 Thread Evan Thomas
Bruce Perens wrote: Tell me where the source for scilab is, and I will remove its termcap dependence. I'm a reasonably competent ncurses programmer. Supporting two terminal management mechanisms would not be a good idea. Bruce I agree two terminal management would be bad.

cfdisk not working with 486/DTC

1996-09-10 Thread David Godshall
I am trying to install Debian Linux 1.1 on my 486/80, 12meg RAM, 1.3gig SCSI HD, DTC3280 SCSI controller. After booting off my boot (Linux kernal 2.0.0) and root floppies and getting to the cfdisk 0.8d BETA, I run into problems. I try setting up some partitions and Write the table, it

Re: kernel compile problem

1996-09-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Guillermo Solis wrote: i everybody. I want to update my linux kernel to one which can run ELF format. I get the linux kernel 2.0.18 i think is the newest version??. when i try to compile i receive a message on the screen telling me gcc is to old. Then i get the new

Dselect

1996-09-10 Thread Servo
Hi all! I [used to be] an avid Slackware fan. Then I meet Debian about two months ago, and I am VERY Impressed. So far, I am running 2 Debian Boxes, and a third is in the works (Where is the Free Hardware Foundation when you need it?:) I know i have not read all there is to read about

Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-10 Thread Mike Wilson
Marcelo Zacarias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ) I've heard good comments about Grail (python based) but not tried ) it yet myself. Don't have the URL but a search will find it. I like Grail. It handles many modern html aspects, such as tables, frames, etc. There are times when it uses a lot of

[INDEX of all linux www browsers] (Re: www browser smaller then netscape)

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- * i am sorry - u may get this mail twice - just my sendmail playing games on me * On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Marcelo Zacarias wrote: marcelo marceloOn Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Christopher R. Hertel wrote: marcelo marcelo On Sep 8, 9:27am, Bill Roman wrote: marcelo Subject:

Re: Getty ports - dumb question

1996-09-10 Thread Jim Worthington
Bill Roman wrote: They're running on your virtual consoles. Try holding down the left Alt key and pressing function keys. Log in on each virtual console. Pretty slick, eh? I used this feature a lot when I had only 4 MB of RAM, as that's not enough to run X in (unless you like watching

Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection

1996-09-10 Thread Jim Worthington
My ISP is worldnet.att.net. They use a PPP connection protocol developed by Shiva. I'm not sure whether it uses PAP or CHAP. I normally access using the windows 95 dialer by filling in the Username and Password fields. There is no logon / dialing script. Is anybody successfully connecting to

Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Shaya Potter wrote: spotter spotterIf you want to view it that way, graphics were not html, Golden words! spotterthey were a Mosiac'ism. well.. then consider me a Lynx'ist. ___ Boris Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key,

Mailing list changes coming

1996-09-10 Thread Bruce Perens
Dear Readers, A while back the U.S. Congress passed some ill-considered anti-obscentity legislation that forced me to move the Debian mailing lists out of the U.S. for my own protection. At that time, Anders Chrigstrom of NetGuide in Sweden graciously offered to operate the lists for us. Of late,

Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-10 Thread Ronald van Loon
|On Sep 8, 9:27am, Bill Roman wrote: | Subject: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape) |: |: I've tried Mosaic (2.7 beta), but it's rather dated (no frames, for |: one thing). | |Frames are *not* HTML. They are a Netscape-ism. For information on |the current draft version of the HTML

Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
I'm not responsible for the mailing lists, but I understand there's some problems with their maintainance. Bruce is working on it. -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgpJn2F7c13OE.pgp

Re: Dselect

1996-09-10 Thread Mark Phillips
When I first ftp'd debian, i got it from the 'buzz' directory. I now see the current directory is 'rex'? I'm a bit confused on the seperation. Is this per-version directories? As I understand it, buzz is the current stable version and rex is the current unstable version. Ie, buzz contains

Re: -lX11 problem

1996-09-10 Thread Stoyan Kenderov
Boris Beletsky wrote: Hi Boris, you might try adding an -L/usr/X11R6/lib to the CFLAGS line of the Makeflag (or unlesss you don't use one on the gcc line. I also had this sort of trouble a long time ago. Which compiler version and binutils are you using? It is a misnomer in the configuration

Re: Do you use SLIP or a variant with Debian?

1996-09-10 Thread Jan Wender
If so, I'd appreciate a short note from you. I'd like to know if you use SLIP because PPP is unavailable, more expensive, or otherwise inconvenient. I'm using slip because ppp is a more lower level protocol and as such produces more traffic for the same payload. As I'm only interested in TCP/UDP

Can't install texbin_3.1415-5.deb

1996-09-10 Thread Rene Tschirley
Am I too stupid? I can't properly set up the TeX packets. If I do 'dpkg --install texbin_3.1415-5.deb', I get the message 'dpkg: error processing texbin (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139' This message nearly makes me go insane! Is there anyone who

Re: Dselect

1996-09-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Servo wrote: Hi all! I [used to be] an avid Slackware fan. Then I meet Debian about two months ago, and I am VERY Impressed. So far, I am running 2 Debian Boxes, and a third is in the works (Where is the Free Hardware Foundation when you need it?:) I know i have

Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-10 Thread Christoph Lameter
Same here. Jim Pick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : : : I have the same problem here ! : I you find out, email me please. : : Phil. : : : : Same problem here also. Do I sense a pattern? : : - Jim : :

libg++-2.7.2.deb is old?

1996-09-10 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, In order to test a local copy of buzz-fixed before burning it on a CD-ROM, we tried to run dpkg --root=... --unpack, just to see if the files aren't corrupted. We got some results we don't understand completly: 1. Most packages finished fine, they produced output like: (Reading database

Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection

1996-09-10 Thread Ron Welch
The following message was posted to the Caldera mailing list a while back. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-===-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ron Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (607) 770-3701 Fax: (607) 770-2056 Lockheed Martin Control Systems 600 Main Street

Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-10 Thread Juri Pakaste
MZ == Marcelo Zacarias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MZ I've heard good comments about Grail (python based) but not tried MZ it yet myself. Don't have the URL but a search will find it. Grail really is pretty good. IIRC, it also ate up over 10 megs of memory when I tested it. -- Juri

A tiny program to help md5sum all debian packages

1996-09-10 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, Attached below is a tiny awk(1) program which will extract the md5sum information of all the packages listed in a Packages file. The output is in a format fit for md5sum -c. I cound't find such a functionality in any of the Debian package manuals so I hope this helps others. (it found

Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape)

1996-09-10 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
On Sep 9, 7:50pm, Shaya Potter wrote: Subject: Re: seeking WWW browser (smaller than Netscape) : : If you want to view it that way, graphics were not html, they were a : Mosiac'ism. I don't know the history of it, but I'll take your word. In any case, minimal support for inline graphics are

elf-x11r6lib

1996-09-10 Thread Simon Martin
Hi all, Whilst trying to install tk40 I get a dependency error on elf-x11r6lib. I've checked the Debian Web and ftp sites and haven't been able to find it. Can anyone tell me where to access this file? Simon Martin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Old software engineers never die, they just fail to boot Any

Re: Base system installation

1996-09-10 Thread Jason K. Keimig
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: The unresolved symbols messages are harmless (unless you want to use nfs or the de4x5, in which case you end up rebuilding the kernel). The problem here is if you _need_ nfs for mounting disks with the buzz/ hierarchy for installing the rest of the

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-10 Thread Eric Fluger
Yes!! (In addition, a master containing all messages would probobly be appreciated by the thorough, the obsesive and the idle.) ALSO: Making either the master or all subsets available as a digest would REALLY help! I'm getting the firewall list this way. It's very tidy. (Perhaps those

Re: Base system installation

1996-09-10 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Jason K. Keimig [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: The unresolved symbols messages are harmless (unless you want to use nfs or the de4x5, in which case you end up rebuilding the kernel). The problem here is if you _need_ nfs for mounting disks with the buzz/

Babel installation fix?

1996-09-10 Thread David Morris
Last week I tried to remove and then reinstall Babel3.6-4 and faced the same bug that someone wrote about last week (I had previously sent a bug report in to the bug-reports address). The error involved MakeTeXTeX filling the drive with the endless loop of trying to make a non-existent (that I can

Re: how to sign up to debian-devel?

1996-09-10 Thread Christian Schwarz
The same thing here! But today I got an email from Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] who told me, that he had problems contacting the mailing list admin via email and he wants to fix this. Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: Dselect

1996-09-10 Thread Guy Maor
On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: As I understand it, buzz is the current stable version and rex is the current unstable version. buzz is *NOT* the current stable version. buzz is the version that was pressed on all CDs. If you use buzz, you will be exposing yourself to major

Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Vadik V. Vygonets
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Boris Beletsky wrote: bruce [...] Do this command: bruce brucels /dev |grep 10, bruce bruceand you will see those devices - you are trying to open one of them. brucePerhaps one of the mouse interfaces? -cut here sim:~# ls /dev | grep 10, Exit

Re: libg++-2.7.2.deb is old?

1996-09-10 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] In order to test a local copy of buzz-fixed before burning it on a CD-ROM, we tried to run dpkg --root=... --unpack, just to see if the files aren't corrupted. [...] Selecting previously deselected package perl. Unpacking perl (from

Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection

1996-09-10 Thread David L. Craig
As Ron Welch wrote: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:52:23 -0400 From: Ron Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Lockheed Martin Control Systems To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection The

Re: kernel compile problem

1996-09-10 Thread Vadik V. Vygonets
On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Boris Beletsky wrote: gsolisnow my question is which gcc (what version ?) or what i have to do gsolisfor compile the new kernel.? i whould say - reinstall the all system there lots of thigs that u need to upgrade - libs , etc.. so i think thats the best thing u could do.

Re: -lX11 problem

1996-09-10 Thread Vadik V. Vygonets
On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Stoyan Kenderov wrote: Boris Beletsky wrote: Hi Boris, you might try adding an -L/usr/X11R6/lib to the CFLAGS line of the Makeflag (or unlesss you don't use one on the gcc line. I also had this sort of trouble a long time ago. Which compiler version and binutils

Re: Boot hangs with 16M ram

1996-09-10 Thread Brian C. White
My debian box doesn't seem to be able to boot with 16 megs ram!! Dos and windows works fine, but Linux just hangs after it does partition check. I boot with lilo, using both kernels 2.0.17 18. The basic Debian boot disks crash when mounting the ramdisk, dumping register values and

Re: missing 'savelog' command

1996-09-10 Thread Giuseppe Vacanti
`dpkg -S savelog' on my system reports: debianutils: /usr/man/man8/savelog.8 debianutils: /usr/bin/savelog At some stage it disappeared from my machine as well. I just reinstalled it. Giuseppe

Re: libg++-2.7.2.deb is old?

1996-09-10 Thread Amos Shapira
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: |From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] | In order to test a local copy of buzz-fixed before burning it on a | CD-ROM, we tried to run dpkg --root=... --unpack, just to see if the | files aren't corrupted. |[...] | Selecting previously deselected package perl.