Message from Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Jim Pick:
Randolph Chung has released a alpha-test version of a utility that
will convert .deb files to .rpm files.
http://132.236.56.9/pages/rc42/program/martian.html
And Debian's alien package can already install .rpm files.
Randolph
When I telnet in a w shows ttypx in lieu of the usual ttyx, so I need a
test to determine which is in use. Pseudocode:
if my TTY is ttypx
set the screen size accordingly
I can do line two, thanks to your suggestions but line one has me tricked.
Lindsay
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:
Is it necessary, or even useful, to have the System.map-x.x.xx
file in the /boot directory if loadlin is used for booting?
Is there any need to have a kernel in / or /boot unless lilo is
being used?
It is, as you have surmised, not
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
The developers have realized more and better documentation is needed. Did
you know there is now a mailing list for discussing this type of thing?
([EMAIL PROTECTED] the subscription address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) This might be a better place to
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Gith wrote:
From Redhat's blurb about their new Maximum RPM book.
RPM currently runs on Linux, IRIX, Solaris, SunOS, AIX,
HP/UX, AmigaOS, and FreeBSD, and is quickly becoming the
de-facto packaging standard for free software on the
Still, none of this even begins to compare with the ease of use of
(horror! shock!) the DOS command interpreter 4DOS! Why use separate
keys like M-p for this, when you've got the arrow keys? The principle
is this: if you have an empty commandline and you type the up arrow, you
get the
Why don't we merge the two package management systems? It would be
in Linux's best interest in the long term to have a single packaging
standard.
Is this feasible?
-
Mark Phillips
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:
Why don't we merge the two package management systems? It would be
in Linux's best interest in the long term to have a single packaging
standard.
Is this feasible?
Please note that having a single packaging standard won't give the
ability to
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, J.P.D. Kooij wrote:
This certainly doesn't work for me. I just get a list of all valid debian
related lists and debian-doc isn't one of them.
And it is still one day before april fools (just checked :-)
I am terribly sorry, the subscribe address I gave was
doing things sometimes. Your way works, though it leaves LINES and ROWS
set to the old values. No problem of course. Is there some elegant test
I can do to see if I am connect to a ttyx or a ttypx I wonder? Then I
could automate the thing.
You could do something like:
if (expr $TTY :
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Mark Phillips wrote:
Why don't we merge the two package management systems? It would be
in Linux's best interest in the long term to have a single packaging
standard.
Is this feasible?
Please note
Randolph Chung has released a alpha-test version of a utility that
will convert .deb files to .rpm files.
http://132.236.56.9/pages/rc42/program/martian.html
And Debian's alien package can already install .rpm files.
Randolph is a close friend of mine (I'm the maintainer of the
Leslie Mikesell:
Randolph is a close friend of mine (I'm the maintainer of the alien
program),
and we're working together on this, and in a week or so, alien will merge
in
martian's functionality and be able to convert in both directions.
Great! Will it be aware of the different
Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
Wouldn't it be great to port dpkg to DOS/Win95? It then could be used by
shareware/freeware authors... And people would be biased towards Debian
when adopting Linux
I'm quite interested in this too. Klee Dienes also said that he was working
on doing this
At 12:44 AM 31/03/97 +0200, joost witteveen wrote:
Hi all,
I upgrade a lot of packages, don't know exactly which ones though, and now
shutdown -h now and umount will not unmount /usr(aka /dev/hdb3). It
gives me
same error:
umount: /dev/hdb3: device is busy
Does anyone have any
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
Wouldn't it be great to port dpkg to DOS/Win95? It then could be used by
shareware/freeware authors... And people would be biased towards Debian
when adopting Linux
I'm quite interested in this too. Klee Dienes also said that he was working
on
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
I am terribly sorry, the subscribe address I gave was debian-doc-request
(no s) @lists.debian.org. The address to post to was correct. So once
again it is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - subscribe/unsubscribe address
debian-doc@lists.debian.org - address
On Mar 31, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote
Yes.. but...
* Windows users probably don't need dependencies. Programs doesn't
usally depend on external libraries...
???
Most of the Windows programs I've seen kindly install a DLL or two in the
\Windows directory.
I don't know is dpkg would catch
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
Yes.. but...
* Windows users probably don't need dependencies. Programs doesn't
usally depend on external libraries...
Ever heard of a DLL? :) All windows programs depend on them, and manually
keeping up with the correct version
On Mar 30, Michel Beland wrote
[snip]
In bash, write
\e[A:history-search-backward
\e[B:history-search-forward
in your ~/.inputrc file. There are two problems with bash, though.
First, if you log on your linux machine with a terminal that does not
use ESC [ A for the up arrow, you
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
Most of the Windows programs I've seen kindly install a DLL or two in the
\Windows directory.
I don't know is dpkg would catch on on Windows, but dpkg's dependency
mechanism provides a much cleaner handing of shared libraries than the
Windows
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
Yes, not many programs use DLLs... And how many Windows programs do you
know that can share a DLL's that provides some funcionality? In Linux
there are lots of things using libraries like libjpeg, libtiff, libvga,
etc...
I was
On Mar 31, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
Yes, not many programs use DLLs... And how many Windows programs do you
know that can share a DLL's that provides some funcionality? In Linux
there are lots of things using libraries like libjpeg, libtiff,
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Douglas L Stewart wrote:
Yes, not many programs use DLLs... And how many Windows programs do you
know that can share a DLL's that provides some funcionality? In Linux
there are lots of things using libraries like libjpeg, libtiff, libvga,
etc...
I was under the
Yes.. but...
* Windows users probably don't need dependencies. Programs doesn't
usally depend on external libraries...
Yes they do -- that's what .DLL's are all about. Of course, the
implementation details would probably be quite different.
The idea behind cygwin32 is that most standard
Please note that having a single packaging standard won't give the
ability to `cross-install' packages. The distributions differ in the
filesystem layout, and in the way many services are implemented.
The big problem for me is that if the packaging systems converge then so
will the
Hi all,
On 30-Mar-97 Dale Scheetz wrote:
If you are in any of the mounted directories (including the top, e.g.
/mnt), then umount would give this message and refues to unmount the
device.
I don't know that this is strictly true. For instance, my fstab mounts
/usr from a seperate device,
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
More programs would share DLL if it wasn't asking for trouble like it is
currently. Just take MFC or OWL as an example... Quite a few progams use
one or the other, both Microsoft and Borland ship them as DLLs, but most
programs either install their
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
Of course.. every program uses system DLL's... but we should forget that
because MS isn't going to use dpkg.. =)
How many of the MS drones would use it? No GUI, decisions required, etc.
This would make much more sense if MS gave us
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
Initially, I think it would probably concentrate on ports of the
standard GNU tools and other Unix-based stuff. This would really
serve the needs of people who have to do web stuff on Windows NT,
and want to use some real tools. People could also develop
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
On Mar 31, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote
More programs would share DLL if it wasn't asking for trouble like it is
currently. Just take MFC or OWL as an example... Quite a few progams use
one or the other, both Microsoft and Borland ship them as DLLs,
Michel Beland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Second, if you have not already typed something on the command line,
history-search-backward does not match any previous command in the
history and just beeps. 4DOS and tcsh just match all the commands
instead and show you the first match.
But
Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Open up your info reader;
Don't get me started on info!
and read the 'readline'
manual, which you've obviously not heard of yet...
? I see no reason in my post for you to make such an assumption.
And here's a copy of the ~/.inputrc I
The other asnwers in this list are all very usefull, but sometimes
I find that whatever I do, I cannot unmount for example /usr.
In such cases, it's best to do
mount -o remount,ro /usr
i.e. remount it read-only, so that all data is written do the partition,
and you can now safely
Hi
I have some questions about fonts:
1. In what directory are they stored? I think I've seen it somewhere, but
now I can't find them.
2. How do I install new fonts?
3. Where can I get new fonts?
With hope to have all of them answered..
_ __
Daniel Karlsson wrote:
Hi
I have some questions about fonts:
1. In what directory are they stored? I think I've seen it somewhere, but
now I can't find them.
2. How do I install new fonts?
3. Where can I get new fonts?
With hope to have all of them answered..
I asume that you are
Hi,
I was just thinking: wouldn't it be a nice idea to have a pgcc package
around for ppl who want to get the most out of their pentium? Even if it
means the package must be in experimental?
It would probably be mostly used to recompile kernels, don't know how big
of an improvement you could get
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
When I upgraded to the Bo (Unstable) it tells me that package modules
relies on package modutils (which is not available). With that I do not
get a few files needed for kernel compilation (such as /sbin/genksyms
(which is a symlink to /usr/bin/genksyms)). If I
Hello again!
This time I have a little different problem, although the font problem isn't
really solved yet because I can't find the proper font anywhere. I will look
further for that..
I want to run a program over telnet, and open a window on my own computer. I
do those xhost and setenv DISPLAY
I tried to make a boot floppy by copying the kernel on the floppy:
cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /dev/fd0
it works except that when I boot from the floppy my Adaptec 1542
isn't recognized at boot; when I boot with the same kernel from the
hard disk the 1542 is recognized without
Gertjan == Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gertjan Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Open up your info reader;
Gertjan Don't get me started on info!
Why not? Elucidate. (I imagine it will have to do with 'C-n and
C-p rather than arrow keys' type of things...
Jim Smith wrote:
Here is the latest entry from my /var/log/ppp.log file, only the last
line was copied, but that's the one I'm questioning.
Mar 28 22:07:29 jim pppd [414]: Cannot determine Ethernet address for
proxy ARP
Don't know what it means, but I remember something about ARP from
Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Open up your info reader;
Don't get me started on info!
Why not? Elucidate. (I imagine it will have to do with 'C-n and
C-p rather than arrow keys' type of things... If you use Emacs,
that's fixed, and arrow keys work fine.)
In fact
James == James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
James Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Open up your info reader; Don't get me started on info!
Why not? Elucidate. (I imagine it will have to do with 'C-n
and C-p rather than arrow keys' type of things... If
Is there a way to make like a menu that appears when i start my computer
that asks me which OS (win95/linux) i would like to go to ?
Yes. You use 2 options in your lilo.conf file to make this happen:
message and timeout. The message option tells LILO to automatically
display a file's
Hubert FAUQUE wrote:
I tried to make a boot floppy by copying the kernel on the floppy:
cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /dev/fd0
it works except that when I boot from the floppy my Adaptec 1542
isn't recognized at boot; when I boot with the same kernel from the
hard disk the 1542 is
Hello,
1.) i can`t find a file called 'man.config' on my debian 1.2.6. So
what should i do? (i need it for configuration stuff)
2.) Normal users (members of the group 'ppp') should be able to start
a dialup internet connection via pppd. What groups must they be in?
I have added them to the
Great! Will it be aware of the different filesystem locations? Shouldn't
these really be built into a user-configurable list instead of
the packages themselves?
Alien doesn't currently handle that. It's just too much work, and there's
no way I could guarentee it'd be correct all the
Hubert FAUQUE wrote:
I tried to make a boot floppy by copying the kernel on the floppy:
cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /dev/fd0
it works except that when I boot from the floppy my Adaptec 1542
isn't recognized at boot; when I boot with the same kernel from the
hard disk the 1542 is
Joseph Skinner wrote:
I just had a look through the list of updated packages and have found
after looking at ftp.debian.org that the new packages are not there.
The strange thing is that for the cases that I looked at the packages that
they replaced are not there either.
Is there
On Apr 1, Joseph Skinner wrote
Hi
I just had a look through the list of updated packages and have found
after looking at ftp.debian.org that the new packages are not there.
The missing packages include
libc6*
gcc_2.7.2.2-2
These packages are in the experimental section.
Do you mean that they fixed libreadline so that you can now talk about
the 'up' key instead of having to insert escape sequences? That's be
great... IMHO, it's probably libreadline's biggest problem.
I do not know about this. What I meant was that they fixed
history-search-backward.
--
I've managed to scramble my modules and am looking for some hints
on how to recover. I'm running Debian 1.2 on a portable with a
pcmcia ethernet card. Up until a few days ago, I'd been making
my own kernel using the kernel HOWTO instructions, rather than
the debian scripts. Never wanting to
Debians,
I am a un*x guru, but a Debian newbie. I apologize in advance if the
following three questions indicate avoidable ignorance of the proper usage
of dpkg. I recently installed dpkg and dpkg-dev 1.4 only to find that it did
not remove the obsolete files of dpkg and dpkg-dev 1.2
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, J.P.D. Kooij wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
I am terribly sorry, the subscribe address I gave was debian-doc-request
(no s) @lists.debian.org. The address to post to was correct. So once
again it is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -
On Mon, 31 Mar 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the answers to some of your questions are already built into the
Debian package management system, dpkg.
I am a un*x guru, but a Debian newbie. I apologize in advance if the
following three questions indicate avoidable ignorance of
Hello,
1.)yesterday i needet to change my /etc/hosts file cause it wasn't
possible to use 'talk':
127.0.0.1 localhost
0.0.0.0 localhost
Since my machine has the name 'thunderstorm' i changed /etc/hosts to
this:
127.0.0.1 localhost
0.0.0.0 localhost
127.0.0.1
Hi Linuxusers
There is one problem in my virtual console (number one) during the
login, when try do one correction with the tecle backspace appear
^? , if try delect appear ^[[3~ and can't typing enter emerge one
^M.
What must do?
Hi,
meierrj == meierrj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
meierrj Debians,
meierrj A. How can one install debian packages without giving
meierrj superuser privelages to the person who assembled the package?
meierrj B. How can one cleanly remove a debian package?
meierrj C. How can one cleanly remove a
What would be an appropriate command to the 'mirror' perl script
to get the files needed for i386 installations only (including sources)?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A. How can one install debian packages without giving superuser
privelages to the person who assembled the package?
Currently, you can not do so. This might be desirable for some restricted
set of packages that do not need any privileges. It is useless for system
I had a problem with this too, in another way. I had tried to install the
latest kernel, as there is a patch for both a printer and ZIP drive to share
one parallel port. I needed genksyms from a newer package, since kernel
2.1.29 expects a genksysms with a -k switch, which earlier (modules)
On 31 Mar 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi,
meierrj == meierrj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
meierrj Debians,
meierrj A. How can one install debian packages without giving
meierrj superuser privelages to the person who assembled the package?
meierrj B. How can one cleanly remove a debian
I think the answers to these questions are serious enough to decide
whether Debian linux will grow or die.
Actually, they are serious enough to decide if some number of people will
remove Debian from their systems and replace it with something else before
the Debian maintainers themselves
The IBM 320 PC Server comes equipped with a Mylex RAID SCSI controller
card, with 4 megabytes of RAM.
We would like to be able to use this machine with Linux (run certains tests
at least).
If you know about a driver for that SCSI PCI board, we will be very
grateful to your attention.
In order
I find my self guilty of the charge above, in that I've blown away
/usr/lib and have therby left myself with a nearly unusable system.
I'd thought that I was in usr/lib/sound when I did a rm *, but I was in
/usr/lib. (I was trying to get my expired sound driver to re-compile; I
wish I'd just spent
On Mar 31, Leslie Mikesell wrote
What would be an appropriate command to the 'mirror' perl script
to get the files needed for i386 installations only (including sources)?
Take a look at the configuration script bellow, which requires few
self-explanatory changes. Once done, download all i386
Hi
I just had a look through the list of updated packages and have found
after looking at ftp.debian.org that the new packages are not there.
The missing packages include
libc6*
gcc_2.7.2.2-2
The strange thing is that for the cases that I looked at the packages that
they
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