Re: Server won't reboot automatically after init 6.

2002-06-05 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Simon Tneoh Chee-Boon said: Hello all, Thanks in advance for any help provided. I installed a Debian Linux 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 on a HP NetServer LC 3 machine. Whenever I run init 6 to restart the server, I can see the server shutting down and try to

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 05:27:54AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to automate this process

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 04:27, Ian D. Stewart wrote: Howdy Folks, Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to automate this

Re: Debian GIS

2002-06-05 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On 2002.06.05 12:17 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 05 Jun 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote: Can anybody recomend a good GIS (Geographical Information System) package for debian? I did a quick search with 'apt-cache search GIS', but got a long list of unrelated results. I've found

RE: DNS resolution problem

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 04:01, George Karaolides wrote: Sorry to be replying to my own post, but there was a typo in my email. I meant to say: --- Begin erratum --- dig @192.168.4.5 www.google.com works just fine! But putting 192.168.4.5 in /etc/resolv.conf and doing dig

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:13:44AM -0300, irado furioso com tudo wrote: I noted that when creating a user, it is assumed a group name with the very same username (user irado, group irado). Is there a way to select a generic (say: users) group when creating new users? dpkg-reconfigure adduser

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread DvB
irado furioso com tudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I noted that when creating a user, it is assumed a group name with the very same username (user irado, group irado). Is there a way to select a generic (say: users) group when creating new users? man adduser If the user's already added,

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 04:41:20AM -0700, Nick Jacobs wrote: The main result was that a small number of Debian insiders posted abusive comments in response to David's perfectly reasonable message. Maybe I've just been around the 'net too long and been too hardened by it, but I haven't seen

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Lanett
It's called user private groups I think, and you want it. You can add generic groups as well of course, but the user should have their own private group. There is documentation about this somewhere; I read some on Red Hat's site once. ~mark - Original Message - From: irado furioso com

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote: Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to automate this process and/or convince Linux

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Gary Hennigan
Ian D. Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to automate this process and/or convince Linux to

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread Gary Hennigan
irado furioso com tudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I noted that when creating a user, it is assumed a group name with the very same username (user irado, group irado). Is there a way to select a generic (say: users) group when creating new users? Please read the man page for adduser and the

howto install from Internet

2002-06-05 Thread irado furioso com tudo
I donot wish to down/burn any *iso. Many persecs ago it was possible to just make 2 floppies and, directly connected to the Internet, install the whole Debian. While I already perused the debian.org site, I found not the necessary directions on how to make the boot/root flopies to install from

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Michel Loos
Em Qua, 2002-06-05 às 08:41, Nick Jacobs escreveu: A few days ago, David Wright posted a message to this list, questioning the wisdom of Debian's decision to target 11 architectures. He pointed out (with supporting references) that this decision has contributed to a long delay in releasing

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 05:27:54AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: Howdy Folks, Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Ivo Wever
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:43:46PM +0200, Ivo Wever wrote: On a related matter: if a number of developers were at odds with part of the current policy, how would they be able to try and change the policy regarding that issue (supposing that if the majority of developers,

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:51:33 -0500 Derrick 'dman' Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it's really easy to blackhole their messages on your end. From your POV it's basically the same thing (apart from bandwidth usage). Yes, blackholing the messages is easy. As for bandwidth being the

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Pietro Cagnoni
Ian D. Stewart wrote: Howdy Folks, Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to automate this process and/or convince Linux to set

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:02:02AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: On 2002.06.05 09:32 Colin Watson wrote: I hope you don't find this comment abusive. It's worth remembering that many developers are feeling under quite a lot of pressure right now, because a large percentage of the more vocal

Re: How to change resolution in X-window?

2002-06-05 Thread Brian Dessent
Markus wrote: I have a very simple but irritating problem: I have started (right after installation of Debian) startx and now it automatically starts every time the system is started. The resolution is though way too low (340*240 or something) and this causes huge difficulties in trying to

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread John Schmidt
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:37 am, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Debian is run by a few hundred programmers who do this for fun. Not profit. Because we do this for fun we choose where to spend our time. For some people the mips architecture and the required hacking is fun. Others are

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread seb bastos
in'st it the 'stable' field to be replace by 'testing'??? Bastos From: D.J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to Woody Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:05:20 +0200 (CEST) I'm currently using Debian's stable release but, due

test, please ignore

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
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Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:30:39PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:25:22AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: [snip] | not need me. And I need a stable release | with the 2.4 kernel. [another snip] My conclusion is that Woody is effectively released already. So,

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Alan Shutko
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, Woody changed to a 2.4 kernel? At last report it was still using 2.2x. Woody has 2.4 kernels, just defaults to a 2.2 kernel. -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - In a variety of flavors! Got a dictionary? I want to know the meaning of life. -- To

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Jun 2002, Carl Fink wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:25:22AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Are you really named Brooks Robinson or is that a nom du net? [snip] | not need me. And I need a stable release | with the 2.4 kernel. [another snip] My conclusion is that Woody

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread Robert Ian Smit
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:13:44AM -0300, irado furioso com tudo wrote: I noted that when creating a user, it is assumed a group name with the very same username (user irado, group irado). Is there a way to select a generic (say: users) group when creating new users? What tool are you using

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Oleg == Oleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oleg How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, Oleg yet modern (compared to Potato)? Perhaps number of packages has something to do with this? How does testing compare to freebsd in terms of security and stability? (I do not

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Ian == Ian D Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian Speaking only for myself, it was the condescending tone adopted Ian by one of the developers (don't remember the fellow's name; he Ian was the one ranting about about his $250,00/hr fee) more than Ian the actual content that I found

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread John Hasler
Oleg writes: How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, yet modern (compared to Potato)? Mostly by being much, much smaller. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: howto install from Internet

2002-06-05 Thread Robert Webb
If you don't mind a little reading try the link below. http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst irado furioso com tudo wrote: I donot wish to down/burn any *iso. Many persecs ago it was possible to just make 2 floppies and, directly connected to the Internet, install the whole Debian. While I

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, yet modern (compared to Potato)? I think it's because they don't have a zero-bugs release policy like Debian. The base system is stable. The stuff in the ports tree is not, from my experience. I once decided to install gdm on a

sshd

2002-06-05 Thread O Senhor
Hello, I'm trying setup sshd to one chroot environment, but when i try log in, the error messages from server is: ... debug1: Allocating pty. debug1: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc /dev/ttyp0 debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 channel

Re: location of Maildir - /var/mail or ~/Maildir?

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 00:06, dman wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:06:25PM -0500, Roach, Mark R. wrote: | I know this might be a religious matter, but is there a good reason for | maildirs to go in ~/Maildir? DJB thinks that is the only way. hmm, I wonder what the reasoning is behind

Downloading and installing woody

2002-06-05 Thread Francisco Fialho
I'm new to Debian, first heard about it at the Install Fest that took place at Univeristy of Campinas ( one of brazilians top 3 ). I downloaded it, and tried to install Debian 2.2rev6, but unsuccessfully. I had problems with the network and video card, but know I want to try it again with the

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2002-06-05 Thread justin cunningham
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ethernet connection drop while idle

2002-06-05 Thread ThanhVu Nguyen
my ethernet card drops its connection after some idle time, then come back when the computer is active again... how can I change this behavior in Linux (I don't want to reboot and go to the Bios and change this because I want to keep my uptime) ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to install Debian from CD ROM

2002-06-05 Thread Robert Webb
If you are trying to do the network install did you load the driver for you NIC card?? And if you selected a NIC driver did it actually load? It sounds like Debian isn't recognizing your network... Robert Jim wrote: I've downloaded the Debian CD a couple of times but can't install it on a

Re: syslog-ng gets no kernel messages --- SOLVED

2002-06-05 Thread Martin Hermanowski
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 03:51:45PM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote: I installed the package syslog-ng, replacing the package sysklogd. After this, my kernel logs (including my iptables logs) no longer went to /var/log/{kern,debug,messages}, or any other file in /var/log. Syslog-ng would log the

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread David Wright
It's not really at all clear that this was where the mistake lay. I never thought I would be advocating more management, but here goes... Debian, as another poster pointed out, has grown from ~50 to ~2000 developers. And those developers, being geeks rather than suits, respond to problems by

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Oleg == Oleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oleg How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, Oleg yet modern (compared to Potato)? Perhaps number of packages has something to do with this? How does

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On 2002.06.05 13:00 Gary Hennigan wrote: Ian D. Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to

open ports question

2002-06-05 Thread tvn1981
Hi, I have the following ports open and I am not sure what they are. Whether or not they are really needed. My other Linux box (rh) doesn't have these so I am wondering what these are in Debian 9/tcp opendiscard 13/tcp opendaytime

mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Bryan K. Walton
Now that Mozilla 1.0 has been released, and Debian 3.0 is stuck in a frozen state, is there anyway that we can sneak Mozilla 1.0 into the release? It would be a shame to release Debian 3.0 in the next couple of weeks and not include Moz 1.0. -Bryan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: open ports question

2002-06-05 Thread Mike Dresser
On 5 Jun 2002, tvn1981 wrote: Hi, I have the following ports open and I am not sure what they are. Whether or not they are really needed. My other Linux box (rh) doesn't have these so I am wondering what these are in Debian 9/tcp opendiscard 13/tcp opendaytime

Re: Mgetty - Dial-in Server ---- HELP PLEASE!

2002-06-05 Thread curtis
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:29:54PM -0700, curtis wanted to write, but didn't: How? The contents of the relevant log file /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS0.log should give a clue. (Apologies if you have looked already) Having turned on debugging, here is the output of my log file: [ snip, snip

woody, alsa, terratec ewx = how?

2002-06-05 Thread tobias
hi, i am looking for a howto to install my terratec ewx. i am new to linux and debian. i cannot find a documentation i can use - the ones at alsaproject appear to be either old or i do not understand them / things do not work, are different on debian. could any kind soul who successfully

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2002-06-05 Thread Thibaud de Borggraef
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Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:18:29AM -0700, David Wright wrote: in the interest of Debian getting to know the needs of its customers (a phrase calculated to annoy Manoj :-), what are the percentage users of potato, woody, and sid? I assume this could be estimated from average daily activity for

Re: location of Maildir - /var/mail or ~/Maildir?

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:52:21PM -0500, Mark Roach wrote: | On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 00:06, dman wrote: | On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:06:25PM -0500, Roach, Mark R. wrote: ... | | I see that with authuserdb, I can specify /var/mail for the Maildir, but | | I would prefer to not have to keep a

RE: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: ldd: command not found when installin

2002-06-05 Thread Charlie Grosvenor
I have the package libc6 installed but don't have the file /usr/bin/ldd How can I solve this problem? Charlie -Original Message- From: Sean Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean 'Shaleh' Perry Sent: 05 June 2002 17:40 To: Charlie Grosvenor Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Re: port forwarding

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 12:23:58PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: | * Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020603 08:34]: | iptables just confuses me at times. | | I'm trying to figure out how to forward all packets hitting this machine | on one port to a port on another machine inside my network.

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:25:22AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: My conclusion is that Woody is effectively released already. A large number of people have been running on Woody for quite some time. It's as stable as it's going to get. Just do an apt-get dist upgrade and get it over with

MH and mutt

2002-06-05 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello, Can mutt work with folders in mh format? If so, how? I am running woody. TIA Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini DFT-IF/UERJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: ldd: command not found when installin

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 Charlie Grosvenor wrote: I have the package libc6 installed but don't have the file /usr/bin/ldd How can I solve this problem? install libc6 again. Something must have deleted it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:47:27 -0500 Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:18:29AM -0700, David Wright wrote: in the interest of Debian getting to know the needs of its customers (a phrase calculated to annoy Manoj :-), what are the percentage users of potato,

Re: Spam mail question

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 02:34:01PM +, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: | | Hi all, | How to reject mail with from like this: at a Debian GNU/Linux | box and Exim? What you mean by from? There are two meanings of it 1) the envelope This is specified in the

RE: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: ldd: command not found when installin

2002-06-05 Thread Robin Putters
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 21:08, Charlie Grosvenor wrote: I have the package libc6 installed but don't have the file /usr/bin/ldd How can I solve this problem? apt-get install --reinstall libc6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:30:12AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Well, this is only partially true. All architectuures for Woody are ready. They are not delaying the release. What is not ready is the ability to support security for woody and potato for even the architectures that we

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Pete Harlan
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:47:17PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Ian == Ian D Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian Speaking only for myself, it was the condescending tone adopted Ian by one of the developers (don't remember the fellow's name; he Ian was the one ranting about about his

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On 2002.06.05 13:47 Manoj Srivastava wrote: Ian == Ian D Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian Speaking only for myself, it was the condescending tone adopted Ian by one of the developers (don't remember the fellow's name; he Ian was the one ranting about about his $250,00/hr fee) more than

RE: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)

2002-06-05 Thread Ronald Castillo
Hello.. I have configured my second interface as you told me (with a few changes) and it's now working fine!!! Thanks a lot for your help to you all!!! Just two more questions.. I don't know if I should place auto on it because the Windows box isn't permanently turned on, so I think that Linux

sysquery: no addrs found for root NS ()

2002-06-05 Thread nate
hi I run many name servers, and a few days ago errors such as this started appearing in one of the log files for one of the servers: Jun 5 06:52:20 mail-wa named[143]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS (name.ualberta.ca) Jun 5 06:52:20 mail-wa named[143]: sysquery: no addrs found for root

Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:02:06PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: | On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: | | Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in | the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me, | I would not have been

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Noah == Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Noah The 11 architecures *are* what's holding up the release. The Noah whole reason the security team needs the new build Noah infrastructure is that it's not a reasonable expectation for Noah them to be able to manually build updated packages

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 03:49:02AM -0700, David Wright wrote: | There are two justifications for supporting many architectures on | the table: | (1) We wanna. Isn't this how all of OSS works? | (2) It's for the good of the users. | (2) is just not true. It would be, if Debian had

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:47:59PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Indeed, the security team indicated that potato support would have to be dropped summarily when woody was released _unless_ changes were made (or a decision would have to be made to only support some arches, but not

Update - RE: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)

2002-06-05 Thread Ronald Castillo
Just to update something new I have found out.. I tried pinging my ADSL router and my brother´s PC from my Linux box and it doesn't work either, but it did work from my Windows PC when I had it connected directly to my ADSL router. So, now I'm feeling pretty clueless... At least in all my PCs

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 06:43:57PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: Surely you can use any kernel you like. I've been using 2.4.18 since it came out and will upgrade to 2.4.19 as soon as it's released. I'm using 2.4.18 myself, but that isn't relevant to the original poster's request for a stable

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
John == John Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John I certainly appreciate the multiple architecture support of Debian. I John have it installed on a powerpc, m68k, and x86 box. I initially John installed it on my m68k box, since Debian was the only distribution John that supported it.

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Ian == Ian D Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian But to answer your question, there are several projects I have Ian an interest in. I have even started writing code for eventual Ian contribution to one of them. You, or anybody else for that Ian matter, are perfectly welcome to provide

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not really at all clear that this was where the mistake lay. David I never thought I would be advocating more management, but here goes... David Debian, as another poster pointed out, has grown from ~50 to David ~2000 developers. And

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread D.J. Bolderman
seb bastos wrote: in'st it the 'stable' field to be replace by 'testing'??? Bastos No. There are 3 options. Stable, Unstable and Testing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread David Wright
I doubt that this would be a useful metric, given that people tracking less-stable versions are likely to be updating more frequently. It is possible to count unique IPs, rather than bytes. Another poster pointed out the problem of local archives, but there is no reason to assume that stable

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:59:41PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: I'm using 2.4.18 myself, but that isn't relevant to the original poster's request for a stable distribution using (meaning something like coming with) a 2.4.x kernel. But woody does come with kernel 2.4.x. Just because it's not

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 02:43:13AM -0700, David Wright wrote: | | I'll ignore the ad hominem. How about a poll at debianplanet? | | ( ) No architecture should move forward untill all can move | forward together. | | ( ) i386 and PPC should take priority; other architectures | can follow

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 09:08:09AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: | David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | David Woody, however, is supposed to support 11 arches to potato's | David 6. One could drop the 5 new arches without encountering this | David problem. Would dropping these

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: | On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:51:33 -0500 | Derrick 'dman' Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Actually, it's really easy to blackhole their messages on your end. | From your POV it's basically the same thing (apart from bandwidth |

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Ian == Ian D Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian And yes, I do find it condescending. Particularly the reference to Ian 'unwashed masses' and the general attitude of 'I have done this thing Ian because it pleases me. You should be content that I allow you to Ian benefit from my labor.'

Re: Possible anti-spam reject host

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:53:58PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: | On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:02:34AM -0500, dman wrote: | sa-exim :-). | | http://marc.merlins.org/linux/exim/sa.html | | Whoa! That should be a Debian package (maybe the default MTA). I just thought I'd announce some

Re: Debian: abandon ship? Not me!

2002-06-05 Thread Stephen Ryan
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 13:32, John Schmidt wrote: I certainly appreciate the multiple architecture support of Debian. I have it installed on a powerpc, m68k, and x86 box. I initially installed it on my m68k box, since Debian was the only distribution that supported it. I made the switch

Re: ISA network card

2002-06-05 Thread Rainer Ellinger
Nick Traxler wrote: I got the value 0x340 through trial and error. All the others fail the initial ne2000 probe. dsl-093-a:~# ne2k-diag -p 0x340 You've also tried ne2k-diag without any option? Winbond W89C905F. I wasn't able to locate that chip on the Winbond site. However, most of the

Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Stefan Bellon
Hi! I'm running unstable and I'd like to ask, what is the recommended way of disabling inetd altogether without having to deinstall netbase as well (as it depends on netkit-inetd). I'm well aware that I can disable every service in the /etc/inetd.conf file, but why have it running then? Is there

Re: DNS resolution problem

2002-06-05 Thread Glen Lee Edwards
George Karaolides wrote: Hi, I have a really strange DNS resolution problem. I have set up and configured a Debian woody box as a gateway and firewall for an internal network connected to the Internet via ADSL. I use the Debian ipmasq package for this. The ISP assigns an IP address to the

Squid, Windows clients, RFC931, oh my.

2002-06-05 Thread Peter Whysall
Here's the scenario. I have a Woody box running the Squid web proxy server, with the oh-so-nifty Squidalyser log analyser doohickey and it's working fine, serving Windows clients. The Boss is pleased. However there's a small fly in the ointment. Squid can look up RFC931 idents from clients.

where to RTFM: Allowing remote X?

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Jinks
Hi, all. I often have to debug X-based apps for my users. In order to be able to run the app as the user, I need to be able to accept X connections on my desktop from their account on some other machine. On non-Debian systems, I've always been able to do the old quick and dirty xset +hostname

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Stefan Bellon wrote: Hi! I'm running unstable and I'd like to ask, what is the recommended way of disabling inetd altogether without having to deinstall netbase as well (as it depends on netkit-inetd). I'm well aware that I can disable every service in the

cdrom: Media not found

2002-06-05 Thread Tom Schuetz
Hi, i'm running Potato 2.2.17. My cdrom stopped working yesterday, for no apparent reason. The error messages vary. Usually, it's No media found but sometimes it says something about a bad superblock and trying to mount a logical drive. I'm stumped on how to remedy this. I've tried both

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Glen Lee Edwards
Ivo Wever wrote: Manoj wrote: What the non free world does, or does not do, does not affect release decisions for Debian. We release when we are ready. We are not yet ready. Period. I think what some people fear is that this implementation of the Debian philosophy might prove

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Noah == Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Noah On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:47:59PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Indeed, the security team indicated that potato support would have to be dropped summarily when woody was released _unless_ changes were made (or a decision would have to

fonts in Star Office

2002-06-05 Thread user list
I have been reading the threads on fonts on this list. My problem seems similar, yet different. Star Office doesn't find many of the standard fonts, including coates/home/edwardsaFailed to load font -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--19-0-0-0-p-*-iso8859-1 Please verify your fontpath settings

Re: howto install from Internet

2002-06-05 Thread David Wright
I donot wish to down/burn any *iso. Many persecs ago it was possible to just make 2 floppies and, directly connected to the Internet, install the whole Debian. While I already perused the debian.org site, I found not the necessary directions on how to make the boot/root flopies to install

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Jinks
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:25:28PM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote: I'm well aware that I can disable every service in the /etc/inetd.conf file, but why have it running then? No reason at all. :) Is there any recommendation of how to turn inetd off? Or should I use update-rc.d and remove the

Re: Debian: abandon ship? Not me!

2002-06-05 Thread B. L. Jilek
Hi Stephen! On Wed, 05 Jun 2002, Stephen Ryan wrote: On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 13:32, John Schmidt wrote: I certainly appreciate the multiple architecture support of Debian. I have it installed on a powerpc, m68k, and x86 box. I initially installed it on my m68k box, since Debian was

Re: Missing (kernel) modules

2002-06-05 Thread Glen Lee Edwards
Peter Whysall wrote: on Wed, Jun 05, 2002, Glen Lee Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have Woody installed with the 2.2-20 kernel. I apt-get installed the 2.4.18 kernel for both k7 and i686. Both installed ok, but both hung on boot, stating that the root file system couldn't be mounted.

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Jinks
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 04:37:28PM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: how about an exit 0, in the top of /etc/init.d/inetd after shutting it off? This will work, but it can cause confusion in the future, especially if somebody else takes over as admin on the box. They'll see inetd configured to start

restart all services?

2002-06-05 Thread justin cunningham
Is there a way to restart all services at once instead of individually? Thanks, Justin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Stefan Bellon
Michael Jinks wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:25:28PM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote: [snip] Is there any recommendation of how to turn inetd off? Or should I use update-rc.d and remove the symlinks to /etc/init.d/inetd? Is there no neater way? I don't know how much neater you want it to

Re: Disabling inetd altogether?

2002-06-05 Thread Stefan Bellon
Mike Dresser wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Stefan Bellon wrote: I'm running unstable and I'd like to ask, what is the recommended way of disabling inetd altogether without having to deinstall netbase as well (as it depends on netkit-inetd). I'm well aware that I can disable every service in

Re: where to RTFM: Allowing remote X?

2002-06-05 Thread Rico -mc- Gloeckner
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:37:06PM -0500, Michael Jinks wrote: I recognize that xset is a security hole, but is there some way to turn that functionality back on? Or, what's the right way to do what I want, using xauth or whatever? # vi /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc I assume you find

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