Re: Command history

2011-04-27 Thread Vangelis Katsikaros
On 04/28/2011 02:25 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: shawn wilson wrote: Is there a way to have a command that does not show up in history? Or a way to pipe a string where the string doesn't show up in history? Ie, I set some passwords with: echo "some string and stuff" ¦ sha512sum (Probably w

Re: xmodmap settings are forgotten/lost during session

2011-04-27 Thread Wolfgang Karall
Hello, On 04/28/2011 02:06 AM, Steve Kleene wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:20:46 +0200, Wolfgang Karall wrote: > >> after upgrading ... I lost my F19/F20 mapping done via xmodmap > > About a week ago my ~/.Xmodmap, which turns off Caps Lock, started being > ignored. It is not even accessed (as

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:53:07AM -0400, Mike Viau wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0400 wrote: > > > > I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes: > > > > gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation > > > > ?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free? > > > I was wondering t

Re: locate something not exist

2011-04-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-28, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote: > > I believe you need to run > > #updatedb > > If I am not mistaken (updatedb may work for different search command if > memory is faulty) > > But if I'm not mistaken, updatedb will refresh the database locate uses to > find results... > If yo

Re: locate something not exist

2011-04-27 Thread teddieeb
Your welcome, glad I was actually able to help somebody ;P TeddyB -Original Message- From: lina Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:09:32 To: Cc: Debian Lists Subject: Re: locate something not exist Thanks, it works, On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:06 PM, wrote: > > I believe you need to run >

Re: locate something not exist

2011-04-27 Thread lina
Thanks, it works, On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:06 PM, wrote: > > I believe you need to run > > #updatedb > > If I am not mistaken (updatedb may work for different search command if > memory is faulty) > > But if I'm not mistaken, updatedb will refresh the database locate uses to > find results.

Re: locate something not exist

2011-04-27 Thread teddieeb
I believe you need to run #updatedb If I am not mistaken (updatedb may work for different search command if memory is faulty) But if I'm not mistaken, updatedb will refresh the database locate uses to find results... TeddyB -Original Message- From: lina Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:5

locate something not exist

2011-04-27 Thread lina
Hi, when I located fglrx which has been purged, but it still showed me lots such as /var/lib/dpkg/info/fglrx-glx.preinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/fglrx-modules-dkms.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/fglrx-modules-dkms.md5sums /var/lib/dpkg/info/fglrx-modules-dkms.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/fglrx-modules-dkms.

Could not initiate GoogleTalkPlugin connection

2011-04-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
In order to get the video chat facility in gmail chat, I downloaded the plugin from http://www.google.com/chat/video?hl=en . The file name is google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb . $dpkg -l google\* | grep ^ii ii google-talkplugin2.0.6.0-1Google Talk Plugin Howev

Re: Patching problem, Obmenu

2011-04-27 Thread Debiantr.WP
Thanks a lot. It really helped me. But, probably next time I would prefer to use obmenu with "python2.x /usr/bin/obmenu" command, until everything sorts itself out :)) On the other hand, learning new things is allways good :) On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 21:02 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In

Re: Patching problem, Obmenu

2011-04-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <1303942683.14504.21.camel@eren-deb64>, Debiantr.WP wrote: >Can someone help me with patching the file given on Debian's bug site: > >http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=623012 > >I don't know what to do. Checked how to patch it on the internet, but I >think I am doing smt wrong. c

Re: ttf-liberation over ttf-mscorefonts; was Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 27 April 2011 15:50:17 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > > > Non ASCII fonts with diacritical signs do not render correctly on- > > > > screen. > > > > > > Do you mean characters? I'm guessing a bug report would be appreciated > > > if

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Re: xmodmap settings are forgotten/lost during session

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Kleene
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:20:46 +0200, Wolfgang Karall wrote: > after upgrading ... I lost my F19/F20 mapping done via xmodmap About a week ago my ~/.Xmodmap, which turns off Caps Lock, started being ignored. It is not even accessed (as judged by ls -lu) when I start X. According to the report for

Re: Can't mount ntfs, says: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'

2011-04-27 Thread Chris Brennan
Reposting to the list, OP, obey REPLY-TO headers or use 'Reply All'. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Jose Legido wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Chris Brennan wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jose Legido wrote: > >> > >> Hello > >> I had windows with ntfs > >> I installed

Re: Command history

2011-04-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
shawn wilson wrote: > Is there a way to have a command that does not show up in history? Or a > way to pipe a string where the string doesn't show up in history? > > Ie, I set some passwords with: > echo "some string and stuff" ¦ sha512sum > (Probably with cut and awk and other such things) > >

Re: Monitors requiring interlaced video modes with older Nvidia video cards are out of options in wheezy

2011-04-27 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:39:16 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:32:43 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2011-04-24 22:19 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: >>> ... >>> The same bug can be reproduced by using the following kernel boot parameter: >>> >>>video=VGA-1:1024x76

Command history

2011-04-27 Thread shawn wilson
Is there a way to have a command that does not show up in history? Or a way to pipe a string where the string doesn't show up in history? Ie, I set some passwords with: echo "some string and stuff" ¦ sha512sum (Probably with cut and awk and other such things) And I'd like a way for my system to n

Re: installer, software raid and grub

2011-04-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Milos Negovanovic wrote: > > Ive just performed squeeze install on a server with 2 drives > configured in RAID1. I followed closely installer messages and I don't > remember seeing GRUB being installed on /dev/sdb. For a split second > there was a message saying so

Patching problem, Obmenu

2011-04-27 Thread Debiantr.WP
Hi, Can someone help me with patching the file given on Debian's bug site: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=623012 I don't know what to do. Checked how to patch it on the internet, but I think I am doing smt wrong. Thanks

Re^2: Wireless via dhcp needs repeated ifdown/ifup

2011-04-27 Thread peasthope
* From: Anthony Campbell * Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:36:42 +0100 > Nothing in the logs apart from an entry saying the router doesn't do > IPV6. ... > in summary, there doesn't seem to be any obvious solution to this > puzzle, ... Can anyone explain what arrangement there is to ensure

Re: Broken insserv?

2011-04-27 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-04-27 23:09 +0200, Brad Alexander wrote: > Excellent. Thanks Sven. Should I then install insserv by hand before doing > the dist-upgrade then? No, this is not necessary. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: Broken insserv?

2011-04-27 Thread Brad Alexander
Excellent. Thanks Sven. Should I then install insserv by hand before doing the dist-upgrade then? --b On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2011-04-27 22:47 +0200, Brad Alexander wrote: > > > I just want to make sure this isn't a show stopper before I pull the > > trigger. I

Re: Broken insserv?

2011-04-27 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-04-27 22:47 +0200, Brad Alexander wrote: > I just want to make sure this isn't a show stopper before I pull the > trigger. I have mostly upgraded my daughter's netbook from lenny to squeeze. > I took the conservative route, cleaning up packages, changing sources.list, > doing an update and

Re: Squeeze and NIC bonding

2011-04-27 Thread kuLa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27/04/11 21:18, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hi there. Hi Paul > Only finding a limited number of posts on this topic - hopefully I didn't > miss it when Googling around .;) > > Running Debian Squeeze 6.0.1 and need to bond some NIC cards. > > Found a

Broken insserv?

2011-04-27 Thread Brad Alexander
I just want to make sure this isn't a show stopper before I pull the trigger. I have mostly upgraded my daughter's netbook from lenny to squeeze. I took the conservative route, cleaning up packages, changing sources.list, doing an update and upgrade, upgrading the kernel and udev and rebooting. All

Re: Squeeze and NIC bonding

2011-04-27 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi there. Only finding a limited number of posts on this topic - hopefully I didn't miss it when Googling around .;) Running Debian Squeeze 6.0.1 and need to bond some NIC cards. Found a posting at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/05/msg00829.html but no answers. The instructions that I

Re: Debian 6: openvpn tun0 device not created

2011-04-27 Thread Chris
Chris wrote: > In the openvpn.log on the server I found: > > Tue Apr 26 12:35:16 2011 us=469148 92.206.139.37:44005 VERIFY ERROR: > depth=0, error=unable to get local issuer certificate: > /C=DE/ST=DE/L=Berlin/O=.de/CN=/emailAddress=.yy...@.de > Tue Apr 26 12:35:16 2011 us=469322

Re: ttf-liberation over ttf-mscorefonts; was Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > > Non ASCII fonts with diacritical signs do not render correctly on- > > > screen. > > > > Do you mean characters? I'm guessing a bug report would be appreciated > > if you can reproduce the issue. > > Yes, non ASCII characters - sorry. ... > I'll f

Re: installer, software raid and grub

2011-04-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 08:33:29PM +0100, Milos Negovanovic wrote: > Hi all, > > Ive just performed squeeze install on a server with 2 drives > configured in RAID1. I followed closely installer messages and I don't > remember seeing GRUB being installed on /dev/sdb. For a split second > there was

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, sdc wrote: > Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that > Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big Don't be. We don't think FSF always provides free software either: we consider documentation as part of the softwar

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:47:43AM +0300, sdc wrote: > Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that > Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big > progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but > still isn't free sof

installer, software raid and grub

2011-04-27 Thread Milos Negovanovic
Hi all, Ive just performed squeeze install on a server with 2 drives configured in RAID1. I followed closely installer messages and I don't remember seeing GRUB being installed on /dev/sdb. For a split second there was a message saying something about GRUB being installed on /dev/sda ... and thats

xmodmap settings are forgotten/lost during session

2011-04-27 Thread Wolfgang Karall
Hello, after upgrading my Debian sid machine to the latest packages (see list below according to dpkg.log) I lost my F19/F20 mapping done via xmodmap for the Forward/Back keys of my notebook. After investigation the issue I ran xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap on my settings manually and it worked, but afte

RE: debian hangs after grub

2011-04-27 Thread Mike Viau
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:40:42 +0300 wrote: > > On 04/27/2011 04:50 PM, Mike Viau wrote: > >> Hi again > >> > >> I also installed an ubuntu on the same machine, the ubuntu works fine, > >> the debian issue still remains. So, I started playing with editing grub > >> commands. > >> > >> In the debi

Re: stopping sound juicer from starting

2011-04-27 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 27/04/11 Tixy said: > >From a Nautilus window, select Edit > Preferences > Media Ah, thank you. Mike signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: How to debug microphone?

2011-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:15:53 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> Try with a more simple approach: >> >> # will start recording from the default input source arecord -d 10 >> /tmp/foo.wav >> >> And when it finishes, play it with: >> >> aplay /tmp/foo.wav > > This records only noise

Re: How to debug microphone?

2011-04-27 Thread Felix Natter
Camaleón writes: > On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 13:18:21 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > >> Volkan YAZICI writes: >> >>> 2) Start arecord with vumeter enabled, that is, >>> >>> arecord -V /tmp/foo.wav >>> >>>and see if vumeter changes. >> >> The -V option is not recognized on Lenny (and -v doesn't

Re: ttf-liberation over ttf-mscorefonts; was Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 27 April 2011 11:56:30 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 27 apr 11, 10:11:28, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > Thank you for the hint. I tried Liberation sans instead of Arial. It > > is not the same. > > AFAIU it is not meant to be "the same" (it couldn't anyway, due to > licensing issues) Yep,

Re: Mschap-v2 from linux client

2011-04-27 Thread Joe
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:24:56 -0500 "cosme" wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > I've PC installed with they Debian squeezy and I need to connect > myself to my ISP which Windows server you it uses 2003, the protocol > that uses the same one is mschap-v2. Debian uses for defect pap and > chap. > h

Re: debian hangs after grub

2011-04-27 Thread Vangelis Katsikaros
On 04/27/2011 04:50 PM, Mike Viau wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:40 +0300 wrote: On 04/26/2011 05:29 PM, Vangelis Katsikaros wrote: Hello I just installed debian 6.0.1.a amd64 with net install, with a clean install (before I had 5). The system goes to grub and when I select the non-recov

Re: stopping sound juicer from starting

2011-04-27 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 12:53 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Hi, > > When I insert a CD, sound juicer insists on starting on my gnome desktop. I'd > rather use grip, and I can't find anywhere to configure which apps gnome > launches when removable media is inserted. I'm running Squeeze. >From a

stopping sound juicer from starting

2011-04-27 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hi, When I insert a CD, sound juicer insists on starting on my gnome desktop. I'd rather use grip, and I can't find anywhere to configure which apps gnome launches when removable media is inserted. I'm running Squeeze. Suggestions? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can m

Re: Can't mount ntfs, says: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'

2011-04-27 Thread Chris Brennan
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jose Legido wrote: Hello > I had windows with ntfs > I installed ubuntu. All ok. Gurb with 2 os, can ran windows and uvuntu and > can mount windows partition in ubuntu > I installed debian with lvm over ubuntu partition. > I can't mount windows partition now, and

Re: Can't mount ntfs, says: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'

2011-04-27 Thread shawn wilson
do an 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' and confirm everything, but, 'mount -t ntfs ' should work for you. it is possible that sda on ubuntu is showing up as sdb in debian - why you should use labels if you don't. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jose Legido wrote: > Hello > I had windows with ntfs > I i

Can't mount ntfs, says: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'

2011-04-27 Thread Jose Legido
Hello I had windows with ntfs I installed ubuntu. All ok. Gurb with 2 os, can ran windows and uvuntu and can mount windows partition in ubuntu I installed debian with lvm over ubuntu partition. I can't mount windows partition now, and windows doesn't appears in gurb # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows/

Re: Wireless via dhcp needs repeated ifdown/ifup

2011-04-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 15:36:42, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > Nothing in the logs apart from an entry saying the router doesn't do > IPV6. Maybe you need to turn verbose/debugging or whatever mode on in some config file ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: ht

Re: ttf-liberation over ttf-mscorefonts; was Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 10:11:28, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > Thank you for the hint. I tried Liberation sans instead of Arial. It > is not the same. AFAIU it is not meant to be "the same" (it couldn't anyway, due to licensing issues), but with the same *metrics*. If I understand this right, it would mea

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 08:58:49, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Some searches of the Web will reveal the complete back story. The short > story is that the GNU Free Document License (GFDL) allows invariant > sections in a document which violates the DFSG. Just to clarify a bit for the archives: the fact th

Re: Wireless via dhcp needs repeated ifdown/ifup

2011-04-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-27, Anthony Campbell wrote: --- SNIP --- > I'll try isc-dhcp-client first and see if that is better. If not, I'll > probably give wicd another whirl. Will report back later. Give dhcpcd a whirl too. Some combinations of DHCP client and router are buggy; you can switch to another DHCP c

Re: Wireless via dhcp needs repeated ifdown/ifup

2011-04-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 27 Apr 2011, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Ma, 26 apr 11, 16:11:40, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > I have this stanza in /etc/network/interfaces: > > > > auto eth1 > > iface eth1 inet dhcp > > wireless-mode managed > > wireless-essid 'My ESSID' > > > > At the end of booting, the system tries to con

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2011 27 Apr 08:55 -0500, Mike Viau wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0400 wrote: I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes: gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation ?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free? I was wondering the same thing about th

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:47:43 +0300, sdc wrote: > Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that > Debian isn't actually free software. ^^^ Uh? How is that? *** What Does Free Mean? or What do you mean by Free Software? http://www.debia

Re: ttf-liberation over ttf-mscorefonts; was Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Wednesday 27 April 2011 09:02:38 Huang, Tao wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Klistvud wrote: > > Dne, 27. 04. 2011 12:36:03 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a): > >> On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote: > >> > Seems a quite reasonable policy to me. Of course, we all wish we > >> > coul

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2011 27 Apr 08:55 -0500, Mike Viau wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0400 wrote: > > > > I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes: > > > > gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation > > > > ?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free? > > > I was wondering the same thin

RE: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Mike Viau
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0400 wrote: > > I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes: > > gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation > > ?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free? I was wondering the same thing about the gcc-doc package. > > >On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 06:36, An

RE: debian hangs after grub

2011-04-27 Thread Mike Viau
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:00:40 +0300 wrote: > > >On 04/26/2011 05:29 PM, Vangelis Katsikaros wrote: > > Hello > > > > I just installed debian 6.0.1.a amd64 with net install, with a clean > > install (before I had 5). > > > > The system goes to grub and when I select the non-recovery mode > > (2.6

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen
I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes: gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation ?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free? Kjetil On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 06:36, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote: >> >> Seems a quite re

ttf-liberation over ttf-mscorefonts; was Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Huang, Tao
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 27. 04. 2011 12:36:03 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a): >> >> On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote: >> > >> > Seems a quite reasonable policy to me. Of course, we all wish we >> > could run free software ponly on our machines, but the time

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Mschap-v2 from linux client

2011-04-27 Thread cosme
Hi I've PC installed with they Debian squeezy and I need to connect myself to my ISP which Windows server you it uses 2003, the protocol that uses the same one is mschap-v2. Debian uses for defect pap and chap. how can make so that my linux uses the protocol MSCHAP-V2. already look

Re: debian hangs after grub

2011-04-27 Thread Vangelis Katsikaros
On 04/26/2011 05:29 PM, Vangelis Katsikaros wrote: Hello I just installed debian 6.0.1.a amd64 with net install, with a clean install (before I had 5). The system goes to grub and when I select the non-recovery mode (2.6.32-5-amd64), I get a cursor that doesn't blink and no action at all. I wai

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Erwan David
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:47:43AM CEST, sdc said: >Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that >Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big >progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but >still isn

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
My list is rather ironic, no? $ aptitude search '~s"non-free|contrib"~i!~M' i bluez-firmware - Firmware for Bluetooth devices i emacs23-common-non-dfsg - GNU Emacs shared, architecture independent, non-DFSG i

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 27. 04. 2011 12:36:03 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a): On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote: > > Seems a quite reasonable policy to me. Of course, we all wish we > could run free software ponly on our machines, but the time doesn't > seem ripe for that. But we are getting closer every ye

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Jochen Schulz
Andrei Popescu: > On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:03:41, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> >> In short: no. Debian follows the DFSG, the FSF follows its own rules. > ^^^ > You probably meant the Social Contract here ;) I actually even wrote that but later on changed it to DFSG in

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote: > > Seems a quite reasonable policy to me. Of course, we all wish we > could run free software ponly on our machines, but the time doesn't > seem ripe for that. But we are getting closer every year: $ aptitude search '~s"non-free|contrib"~i!~M' i fi

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:03:41, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > In short: no. Debian follows the DFSG, the FSF follows its own rules. ^^^ You probably meant the Social Contract here ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://li

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 11:47:43, sdc wrote: > My beginner question is, why doesn't Debian remove the proprietary software > hosted on it's servers? Don't they want to follow the FSF word? Read the Social Contract, especially points 4. and 5. http://www.debian.org/social_contract Regards, Andrei -- Of

Re: Wireless via dhcp needs repeated ifdown/ifup

2011-04-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 26 apr 11, 16:11:40, Anthony Campbell wrote: > I have this stanza in /etc/network/interfaces: > > auto eth1 > iface eth1 inet dhcp > wireless-mode managed > wireless-essid 'My ESSID' > > At the end of booting, the system tries to connect to the wireless point > but after repeated attempts

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 27. 04. 2011 10:47:43 je sdc napisal(a): Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but still isn't free software b

Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread Jochen Schulz
sdc: > > My beginner question is, why doesn't Debian remove the proprietary software > hosted on it's servers? Because Debian currently thinks keeping proprietary packages serves their users better than removing the "offending" packages. Officially, proprietary packages aren't part of Debian anywa

Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

2011-04-27 Thread sdc
Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but still isn't free software because users have the option to install proprietary so

Re: Wireless via dhcp needs repeated ifdown/ifup

2011-04-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 27 Apr 2011, Charlie wrote: > On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:11:40 +0100 Many thanks, Camaleon and Charlier. I'm not using Network-Manager or wicd. I did try both of them in the long-ago but found it easier to set things up by hand, which meant I had at least a vague idea of what I was doing. I'll tr

Re: Diagnosing lack of sound problem on HP laptop

2011-04-27 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
27/04/2011 02:35, Tim Long wrote: > Hi all, > > I have installed squeeze (amd64) on a HP Compaq 6730s laptop and > currently the sound is not working. It works fine in when running > Vista of the other partition. > > The sound chip is Intel: > $ lspci | grep Audio > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Co

Re: Debian 6: openvpn tun0 device not created

2011-04-27 Thread Chris
Huang, Tao wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Chris wrote: >>> (Device not found) >>> the openvpn.conf is copied from a backup, it was working with Debian 5. >>> In the logfile, I dont find any errors. >>> What may be wrong? >> >> This is on a client, btw. The server and other clients wor