Re: Face header and Thunderbird

2017-09-14 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
In Article <865dea1b-52f1-f6e5-8432-542440ce4...@walnut.gen.nz>, Richard Hector writes: > Hi all, > > Apologies for the thread hijack, but this issue does relate to Brad's > message ... > > When I read email from Brad Rogers and a few others, they contain a > 'face' header (different from X-Face

Re: Installing the installer

2017-09-14 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Richard Owlett writes: > Yes, I know the subject line looks strange. It's intentional. > I wish to do something not quite normal ;/ > > I wish to "install" to an arbitrary ext2/ext4 partition in such a > manner that: > 1. Grub2 will recognize it as a legit OS. > 2. if the partition is on a US

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-09-14 at 12:34, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 19:25:15 (+0300), Reco wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:15:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> >>> On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 18:55:34 (+0300), Reco wrote: > It's very easy to setup mail delivery in such way that every >>>

Face header and Thunderbird (was: Re: LibreOffice, missing bits)

2017-09-14 Thread Richard Hector
Hi all, Apologies for the thread hijack, but this issue does relate to Brad's message ... When I read email from Brad Rogers and a few others, they contain a 'face' header (different from X-Face, which is also there). For whatever reason, Thunderbird always displays this header in the 'Normal' v

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Richard Hector
On 14/09/17 07:32, Steve Kleene wrote: > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I > have no choice in the matter. > > My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook > Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can tel

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 12:36:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:55:34 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Begin rant: > > > > > > [..

Re: Laptop Wireless issues

2017-09-14 Thread Cody Jackson
Thanks so much! Turns out I had nothing in the apt sources file. How embarrassing. I did what you said and used this site: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList I also did apt-get install firmware-realtek. Once I had done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, everything worked out fine. Now I have

Minicom problem

2017-09-14 Thread Fred
Hi, I sometimes use minicom to talk to some equipment over a wired connection. Minicom comes up off line and I can't find what makes it go on line. I look through some of the menus and at some point it decides it is on line. Maybe it has a timeout. How can I make it cut out the foolishnes

Re: How do I boot a Debian 9.1.0 amd64 iso from GRUB?

2017-09-14 Thread Felix Miata
Ethan Andrews composed on 2017-09-14 03:17 (UTC): > I have recently had issues with burning DVDs and am wondering if I can > boot a Debian 9.1 AMD64 DVD iso directly from an installed GRUB on > another Debian partition If you have a working internal installation and FOSS bootloader, you don'

Debian Stretch CheeseV-9.1.0 Sound Problem

2017-09-14 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
64 bit v-9.1.0 Cheese records video without problem, but there is no wound when played back. I have absolutely no idea as to the problem as sound is normal in the other installed devices. I would appreciate pointers to a solution. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.

Re: How do I boot a Debian 9.1.0 amd64 iso from GRUB?

2017-09-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/09/2017 à 05:13, Ethan Andrews a écrit : Hello, I have recently had issues with burning DVDs You can use an USB drive instead. and am wondering if I can boot a Debian 9.1 AMD64 DVD iso directly from an installed GRUB on another Debian partition. Do you mean a Debian installation imag

How do I boot a Debian 9.1.0 amd64 iso from GRUB?

2017-09-14 Thread Ethan Andrews
Hello, I have recently had issues with burning DVDs and am wondering if I can boot a Debian 9.1 AMD64 DVD iso directly from an installed GRUB on another Debian partition. Preferably, is there a way of booting from the DVD boot sector in the iso so I can boot any operating system iso as well? T

Re: Nvidia Quadro FX880M and debian sid

2017-09-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 09/06/2017 01:38 AM, Pétùr wrote: Hello, I have installed Debian (Sid) on a Dell precision M4500 from 2010. It has the Nvidia Quadro FX 880M graphical card. I have some freezes and graphical glitches when using the nouveau driver. They appears time to time (the window I was using is still th

Is this a bug?

2017-09-14 Thread Hans
Hi folks, tried to reread all the menus in plasma5 and used kbuildsycoca5 --noincremental but got this output: kbuildsycoca5 running... The desktop entry file "/usr/share/applications/kde/kresources.desktop" has Type= "Application" but also has a X-KDE-Library key. This works for now, but ma

Re: mariadb uninstall/reinstall

2017-09-14 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 08:36:33AM -0700, larry owens wrote: > Colleagues > > I've been a loyal Debian user since (I believe) release 4. I also use > Debian as the basis for a college course I teach in C programming so the > students get 'nix exposure in addition to C. As is my custom I typicall

Re: mariadb uninstall/reinstall

2017-09-14 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/14/17, Alberto Luaces wrote: > "larry owens" writes: > >> Colleagues >> > > [...] > >> Unfortunately I >> have been unable to find a set of instructions to safely remove >> Maria. Can anyone point me to a working process (the one's on the web >> currently don't seem to work). TIA > > Hi, as l

How do I boot a Debian 9.1.0 amd64 iso from GRUB?

2017-09-14 Thread Ethan Andrews
Hello, I have recently had issues with burning DVDs and am wondering if I can boot a Debian 9.1 AMD64 DVD iso directly from an installed GRUB on another Debian partition. Preferably, is there a way of booting from the DVD boot sector in the iso so I can boot any operating system iso as well? T

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 September 2017 12:02:31 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > I have, live, a 5 machine home network here, and IMO here is where > > imap belongs, so I could do my email from any of these machines by > > pulling from their server with fetchmail, and making it available to > > any of

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:55:34 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Begin rant: > > > > [...] > > > > > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping > > >

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 19:25:15 (+0300), Reco wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:15:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 18:55:34 (+0300), Reco wrote: > > > It's very easy to setup mail delivery in such way that every e-mail is > > > stored in two different places, first one f

Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:23:10 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:59:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote: > > > Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de: > > > > I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at t

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:19:45 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > Begin rant: > > [...] > > > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping agencies, > > this exposes my mail to these people for 1000's of times longer (If > > I

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Reco
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:15:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 18:55:34 (+0300), Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Begin rant: > > > [...] >

Re: Laptop Wireless issues

2017-09-14 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:47:36AM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Wed 13 Sep 2017 at 15:12:41 (-0400), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 9/13/17, Sven Joachim wrote: > > If you already have installed Debian on your laptop, simply get the > firmware-realtek package[3] from non-free (either using a wired

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Joe
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:38:57 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, September 14, 2017 03:56:38 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:32:33PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote: > > > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail > > > server. I have no choic

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 18:55:34 (+0300), Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Begin rant: > > [...] > > > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping agencies, th

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > I have, live, a 5 machine home network here, and IMO here is where > imap belongs, so I could do my email from any of these machines by > pulling from their server with fetchmail, and making it available to > any of these machines by imaping it. But I have been told, repeatedly, > th

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > Begin rant: > [...] > > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping agencies, this > > exposes my mail to these people for 1000's of times long

Re: Laptop Wireless issues

2017-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Wed 13 Sep 2017 at 15:12:41 (-0400), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 9/13/17, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > > If you already have installed Debian on your laptop, simply get the > > firmware-realtek package[3] from non-free (either using a wired > > connection, or via another computer and sneakernet).

Re: mariadb uninstall/reinstall

2017-09-14 Thread Alberto Luaces
"larry owens" writes: > Colleagues > [...] > Unfortunately I > have been unable to find a set of instructions to safely remove > Maria. Can anyone point me to a working process (the one's on the web > currently don't seem to work). TIA Hi, as long as you installed it from Debian packages, you o

mariadb uninstall/reinstall

2017-09-14 Thread larry owens
Colleagues I've been a loyal Debian user since (I believe) release 4. I also use Debian as the basis for a college course I teach in C programming so the students get 'nix exposure in addition to C. As is my custom I typically wait a few months after a new release and then convert to the new Deb

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Joe
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:58:17 +0900 soyeo...@doraji.xyz (Byung-Hee HWANG "(황병희, 黃"炳熙)) wrote: > > Somewhat it is off topic, how about forwarding? If it is possible at > the server, then things are easy. > > It is, or was on the versions of Exchange I've dealt with, last one 2007. It is, however

Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:59:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote: > > > Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de: > > > I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at the ↑↑↑

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > Begin rant: [...] > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping agencies, this > exposes my mail to these people for 1000's of times longer (If I do it > once a week for instance) compared to fetchmail pulling and deletin

Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 September 2017 10:40:48 Frank wrote: > Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de: > > I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at the > > server, but... the protocol makes it very difficult to see that > > you don't download mails twice, or many times. > > Not in

Re: Installing the installer

2017-09-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > I wish to "install" to an arbitrary ext2/ext4 partition in such a manner > that: > 1. Grub2 will recognize it as a legit OS. Why not install - without quotes - Debian to as few partitions as possible ? (Can it be forced to touch only one ?) The system in the ISO can

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 September 2017 08:18:03 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:59:04PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > [...] > > > With IMAP, the expectation is that your MUA is just a viewer of > > email. The mail is stored elsewhere and you want to > > read/reply/manage it without wo

Re: Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread Frank
Op 14-09-17 om 14:15 schreef to...@tuxteam.de: I know, with pop3 you can theoretically leave your mail at the server, but... the protocol makes it very difficult to see that you don't download mails twice, or many times. Not in my experience. What makes you think it's difficult? Regards, Frank

odd screen corruption in VNC

2017-09-14 Thread Glenn Holmer
Setting up VNC, both machines running Debian Stretch with MATE (no VMs involved). Using tightvncserver, and xtightvncviewer as well as vinagre as client. In both cases I see some corruption of the upper MATE panel with red circles containing a number or letter. Anyone have any idea what this is fro

Installing the installer

2017-09-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Yes, I know the subject line looks strange. It's intentional. I wish to do something not quite normal ;/ I wish to "install" to an arbitrary ext2/ext4 partition in such a manner that: 1. Grub2 will recognize it as a legit OS. 2. if the partition is on a USB flash drive it will boot normally

Re: OpenJDK 8 from jessie backports

2017-09-14 Thread John Naggets
Thanks Georgi you made my day! That worked like a charm. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 09/14/2017 03:45 PM, John Naggets wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I did the mistake of running an "apt-get dist-upgrade" on my Debian 8 >> machine which uses Debian backports in oder to hav

Re: OpenJDK 8 from jessie backports

2017-09-14 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 09/14/2017 03:45 PM, John Naggets wrote: > Hi, > > I did the mistake of running an "apt-get dist-upgrade" on my Debian 8 > machine which uses Debian backports in oder to have the OpenJDK 8 > package. Now I am stuck by with the OpenJDK 7 from the Debian repo and > if I try to install OpenJDK 8 a

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
In Article <201709131932.v8djwxmd016...@syrano.acb.uc.edu>, Steve Kleene writes: > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I > have no choice in the matter. > > My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook > Web App (OWA) that I can

OpenJDK 8 from jessie backports

2017-09-14 Thread John Naggets
Hi, I did the mistake of running an "apt-get dist-upgrade" on my Debian 8 machine which uses Debian backports in oder to have the OpenJDK 8 package. Now I am stuck by with the OpenJDK 7 from the Debian repo and if I try to install OpenJDK 8 again I get the following error: $ sudo apt-get install

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On qui, 14 set 2017, rhkramer wrote: I'm sort of moving OT, but want to ask: presumably you think IMAP is preferable to POP3--what makes you say that (in general)? If you read your mail in more than one device, I'd say IMAP is a must. Without it it's really hard to keep track of what's been r

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:59:04PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: [...] > With IMAP, the expectation is that your MUA is just a viewer of > email. The mail is stored elsewhere and you want to > read/reply/manage it without worrying about storing it. [..

Why IMAP instead of POP3 [was: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook]

2017-09-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 07:38:57AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > I'm sort of moving OT, but want to ask: presumably you think IMAP is > preferable to POP3--what makes you say that (in general)? POP3 is only useful if you plan to always g

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 07:38:57AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, September 14, 2017 03:56:38 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:32:33PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote: > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I > have no choice in th

Re: xterm: cannot paste some "utf-8" unicode chars into xterm - was Re: custom keyboard layout - select and middle-click paste in xterm -lc

2017-09-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 09:28:22PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > 2) My problem is pasting into xterm some unicode characters (see the >question in my other email) - this is the part NOT working for me >- everything else is working really well (i.e., so I don't need to >use xmodmap at

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, September 14, 2017 03:56:38 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:32:33PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote: > > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I > > have no choice in the matter. > > > > My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook fo

xterm: cannot paste some "utf-8" unicode chars into xterm - was Re: custom keyboard layout - select and middle-click paste in xterm -lc

2017-09-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 09:03:22PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 14.09.17 18:48, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 06:35:16PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > So I've mapped the function (mathematical) symbol to Level3-Shift + ` > > > (backtick) - created a custom keyboar

Switch user is broken for multiple sessions after upgrade to stretch.

2017-09-14 Thread Sean Peters
I've got a home desktop PC that often has several members of the family logged in to it at the same time, with a mixture of LXDE, GNOME, and FVWM(from .xsession) sessions. It uses gdm3 as a display manager. Since an upgrade to stretch, Switch User doesn't work. None of these work: - "Switch User

Re: custom keyboard layout - select and middle-click paste in xterm -lc

2017-09-14 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 14.09.17 18:48, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 06:35:16PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > So I've mapped the function (mathematical) symbol to Level3-Shift + ` > > (backtick) - created a custom keyboard layout in > > /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/... > > Further, I just copied

Re: Compatibility of the Irisscan executive 4 scanner

2017-09-14 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2017 11:31:01 +0200 schreef Alex ARNAUD : Dear all, I install Debian GNU/Linux on computer for visual-impaired users and I've a request about the compatibility of a Irisscan executive 4 scanner. I've sought on the internet without finding any specific data about this mode

Re: How do I boot a Debian 9.1.0 amd64 iso from GRUB?

2017-09-14 Thread Fungi4All
> From: ethanand...@hotmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Hello, > > I have recently had issues with burning DVDs and am wondering if I can > boot a Debian 9.1 AMD64 DVD iso directly from an installed GRUB on > another Debian partition. > Preferably, is there a way of booting from the

Compatibility of the Irisscan executive 4 scanner

2017-09-14 Thread Alex ARNAUD
Dear all, I install Debian GNU/Linux on computer for visual-impaired users and I've a request about the compatibility of a Irisscan executive 4 scanner. I've sought on the internet without finding any specific data about this model. Do you know if this model is compatible with Sane and if y

Re: custom keyboard layout - select and middle-click paste in xterm -lc

2017-09-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 06:35:16PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > So I've mapped the function (mathematical) symbol to Level3-Shift + ` > (backtick) - created a custom keyboard layout in > /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/... Further, I just copied the "us" file, gave it a custom name, and modified the

custom keyboard layout - select and middle-click paste in xterm -lc

2017-09-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
So I've mapped the function (mathematical) symbol to Level3-Shift + ` (backtick) - created a custom keyboard layout in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/... The following locale is enabled: en_us.UTF-8 The character in utf-8 is as follows: ƒ (It should look like an italic lowercase letter f.) I've al

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

2017-09-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 03:32:33PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote: > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I > have no choice in the matter. > > My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook >

Re: How do I boot a Debian 9.1.0 amd64 iso from GRUB?

2017-09-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Ethan Andrews wrote: > wondering if I can > boot a Debian 9.1 AMD64 DVD iso directly from an installed GRUB on > another Debian partition. Probably you look for what is called "chainloading". Google finds me among others https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2/Chainloading https://superuser.

How do I boot a Debian 9.1.0 amd64 iso from GRUB?

2017-09-14 Thread Ethan Andrews
Hello, I have recently had issues with burning DVDs and am wondering if I can boot a Debian 9.1 AMD64 DVD iso directly from an installed GRUB on another Debian partition. Preferably, is there a way of booting from the DVD boot sector in the iso so I can boot any operating system iso as well? T