Re: Paying Debian contributors (Was Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software)

2022-09-16 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/16/22 12:05 AM, Maude Summerside wrote: > > On 2022-09-15 17:56, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/15/2022 11:46 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 10:04:48PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > >>> I am not agai

Re: Paying Debian contributors (Was Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software)

2022-09-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/15/22 6:29 PM, Lee wrote: > On 9/15/22, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > So I have to pay someone lots of money to fix a problem I already know how > > to fix? > > I don't think you really understand my use case very well. > > I surely don't. If you know ho

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/15/22 11:45 AM, Maude Summerside wrote: > > On 2022-09-14 23:23, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/14/2022 11:01 PM, Maude Summerside wrote: > >> > >> On 2022-09-14 21:45, Michael Stone wrote: > >>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIn

Re: Paying Debian contributors (Was Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software)

2022-09-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/15/2022 11:46 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 10:04:48PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > I am not against giving maintainers like Steve just compensation for the > > work they do fixing bugs, and by compensation I mean money. > >

systemd: udev coldplug all devices question

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
Hello, There are some devices that when present will cause the "coldplug all devices" stage at boot to fail. On a normally installed system only an error is reported in the journal and logs during boot but the system boots normally and the device also functions normally. But on debian installer

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/2022 11:01 PM, Maude Summerside wrote: > > On 2022-09-14 21:45, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> I'll be brutally honest: being accused of "possibly malicious" > >> unwilligness is *not* a great way to convince overstretched

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/22 6:16 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Stefan wrote: > In article you > write: > >> the interest of the user. These "volunteers" obviously have other, > >> possibly malicious, interests if they prove themselves unwilling to > >> apply fixes to bugs that are reported to them. > > > >I think

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/2022 9:06 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-09-14 at 08:51, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > On 9/14/2022 1:03 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 03:41:11PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >>

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 7:11 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > Am 13.09.22 um 23:55 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > > > > > I am fairly sure I was a victim of > > the breach of Yahoo that affected hundreds of millions of its users. > I am sorry for you. I do not know this case, so I cannot

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/2022 1:03 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 03:41:11PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > [...] > > > Actually, someone already has shown us how to do it better. His name is > > Linus Torvalds [...] > > I don't know what your aim is. >

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/14/2022 7:08 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > On 9/13/2022 3:59 PM, err...@free.fr wrote: > > > Please STOP! > > > > > > you are annoying, and if you want improve free softwares, is not > > > like this. you will better contribute with your code or with your > > > translations than by

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 7:11 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > Am 13.09.22 um 23:55 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > > On 9/13/2022 4:14 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > > I think Megha is emphasizing, and possibly over-emphasizing, the fact > > that the persons > > who actually commit the cod

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 6:47 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > If free/oss projects like Debian want to provide software with those > > positive characteristics to their users, those projects must have in > > place some level of oversight over what the persons who actually write > > the software actually do, or

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 4:38 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > The users. They stop using software or any product that does not work > > well or is more trouble than it is worth. Then the entity, whether > > a free/oss or proprietary provider ends up shutting down > > the enterprise. > > But, being Free

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 4:31 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > the interest of the user. These "volunteers" obviously have other, > > possibly malicious, interests if they prove themselves unwilling to > > apply fixes to bugs that are reported to them. > > I think there's a confusion here: these volunteers will

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 4:14 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > Am 12.09.22 um 19:47 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski: > > "Open Source Software is accessible to all means it can be used and > > misused. > > And, that’s where it turns unconstructive for us. With OSS, we can expect > > ha

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 3:59 PM, err...@free.fr wrote: > Please STOP! > > you are annoying, and if you want improve free softwares, is not like this. > you will better contribute with your code or with your translations than by > writing to this mailing-list The problem is, with all due respect, that I do

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 2:33 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 02:14:38PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > >So do you, obviously. Someone said something that raised that question in my > >mind, > >but you deleted that part from this message, which proves you are the one

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 2:02 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:42:12PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > >Software projects today, IIUC, are communities. The "volunteers" should do > >what the community > >wants, not necessarily what you or I want. Do you

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 12:36 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:25:40PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > [...] > > > I agree with that. But the price-performance ratio could be even better if > > the "volunteers" > > in free/oss softwa

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 11:53 AM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:27:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > >On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > >> > >> > [...] &quo

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 11:44 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:27:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > > > > [...] &quo

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > [...] "I can't get personalized/dedicated support with enforceable > > SLAs for free" If the requirement that maintainers and developers of free/oss software must actually fix

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-12 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/12/22 3:32 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 01:47:49PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > >Well, I suppose so, but I am pleased that a grub maintainer is now on the > >case. Still, > >there is another Debian bug that affects me that continues to be ig

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-12 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/12/2022 1:58 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-09-12 at 13:47, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > On 9/12/2022 12:14 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > >> On Mon 12 Sep 2022 at 11:13:52 (-0400), Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > >>> The grub maintaine

Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-12 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/12/2022 12:14 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 12 Sep 2022 at 11:13:52 (-0400), Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/12/2022 12:55 AM, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > I would imagine a fix could follow quite quickly as it only requires > > > rebuilding with

Re: Should a serious bug have made in into bullseye 11.5?

2022-09-12 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/12/2022 11:36 AM, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Mon, 12 Sep 2022, David Wright wrote: > > > > > AFAICT it had two months in testing without this problem being > > hit and reported. > > > > Unfortunately, g-x-h is probably mostly used on stable or oldstable with > guests running testing. > > I'm not

Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release

2022-09-12 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/12/2022 12:55 AM, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 12 Sep 2022 at 01:15:47 (+0200), Tom Lew wrote: > > This is my first post, bear with me.. > > > > Package "grub-xen-host" shipped with point release 11.5 broke all PV > > domains on my Xen server, after "apt upgrade" from 11.4. > > > > I found

Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?

2022-09-09 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/7/22 10:11 PM, David wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 11:44, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/7/22 7:45 PM, David wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 02:49, Chuck Zmudzinski > > > wrote: > > > > On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > &

Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?

2022-09-07 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/7/22 7:45 PM, David wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 02:49, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > I use the tigervnc-standalone-server which is in the Debian packages > > > archives. I use it only on a trust

Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?

2022-09-07 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/7/2022 12:13 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 9/7/2022 4:41 AM, piorunz wrote: > > On 07/09/2022 05:58, notoneofmyseeds wrote: > > > On 07.09.22 06:19, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > > > >>> > > >> I've switched to NoMachine [1] a l

Re: Currently on x11vnc, looking for reliable VNC solution?

2022-09-07 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/7/2022 4:41 AM, piorunz wrote: > On 07/09/2022 05:58, notoneofmyseeds wrote: > > On 07.09.22 06:19, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > >>> > >> I've switched to NoMachine [1] a long time ago. > >> It has all features I need, which are multi-platform and cross-OS > >> support, public key

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-31 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/31/22 11:03 AM, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 31/8/22 10:45 pm, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > I don't use haproxy but I see there is a package for it in the Debian > > repos. I think what you are seeing should be reported as a bug in > > haproxy if you are using

Re: networking.service: start operation timed out [SOLVED]

2022-08-31 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/30/22 8:49 PM, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 30/8/22 9:56 am, Ross Boylan wrote: > > > > Now everything just works. > > > > Thanks again to everyone. > > > > There are probably some general lessons, though I'm not sure what they > > are. Clearly the systemd semantics tripped me up; it's kind of

Re: Virtual Machines

2022-08-22 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/22/2022 8:50 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good book on the general topic of VMs? Or one on a > specific VM stack (using Linux as  base)? > > Thanks. > > -Tom This looks like a comprehensive and reasonably up-to-date online book: https://linuxhandbook.com/virtualization/

Re: Comments on upgrade steps from one version of Debian to another

2022-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/20/2022 3:48 PM, John Boxall wrote: > I created an upgrade script based on something I found a few years ago > that indicated the steps to follow to upgrade from one version of Debian > to another (e.g. Buster 10 to Bullseye 11). As I am going to need to run > this script at some point (I

Re: Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/20/22 4:28 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Chuck Zmudzinski [2022-08-20 16:20:21] wrote: > > That's a fair point. It may not be so easy for me to work on a bug that > > does not affect > > my systems, but I am willing to help with bugs important to the De

Re: Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/20/2022 2:06 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > So that means "free" software written and maintained by volunteers will > > never be as > > stable and secure as software that is written by people who are paid by the > > hour. > > Not necessarily. Have you filed a bug report about a problem you

Re: Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/20/2022 1:25 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 05:06:38PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 8/19/2022 4:44 PM, piorunz wrote: > > > On 19/08/2022 18:57, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > > > > I have noticed that some

Re: Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/20/2022 1:25 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 05:06:38PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 8/19/2022 4:44 PM, piorunz wrote: > > > On 19/08/2022 18:57, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > > > > I have noticed that some

Re: Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-19 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/19/2022 9:18 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 08:20:21PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 8/19/2022 6:59 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > > Volunteers cannot be forced to do work, else they are not > > > volunteers. > &g

Re: Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-19 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/19/2022 6:59 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 05:06:38PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > On 8/19/2022 4:44 PM, piorunz wrote: > > > On 19/08/2022 18:57, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > > I have noticed that some Deb

Re: Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-19 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/19/2022 6:43 PM, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 6:40 PM Chuck Zmudzinski > wrote: > > On 8/19/2022 6:20 PM, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 5:07 PM Chuck Zmudzinski > wrote

Re: Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-19 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/19/2022 4:44 PM, piorunz wrote: > On 19/08/2022 18:57, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > > > I have noticed that some Debian bugs are ignored for a long time, sometimes > > even when the person who submitted the bug offered a patch. The Debian > > developers/maintainers so

Why are some Debian bugs ignored for a long time?

2022-08-19 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
Hello, I have noticed that some Debian bugs are ignored for a long time, sometimes even when the person who submitted the bug offered a patch. The Debian developers/maintainers sometimes don't even reply and therefore never explain why the proposed patch cannot be applied. Why is that the case

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

2022-08-17 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/17/2022 10:34 AM, hdv@gmail wrote: > On 2022-08-17 12:53, Tom Browder wrote: > > Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual > > hosting because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and a > > Deb laptop. > > > > I would love to run Windows on a VM on

Re: Windows on VMware on Deb 11: safely usable?

2022-08-17 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/17/2022 6:53 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > Unfortunately, I have to have a Windows host. I have given up dual hosting > because of the pain, so I am using a dedicated Win 10 box and a Deb laptop. > > I would love to run Windows on a VM on Debian iff I can have it be reliable > enough to use with

Re: Help: disk swap

2022-08-02 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 7/27/2022 1:51 PM, Erik Mathis wrote: > I would look at the UEFI vs BIOS boot options in the "backup" server and > compare it to the "broken" server and make sure they are the same. Also check > for BIOS updates and such. > > > -Erik- > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 7:59 AM tony wrote: > >

Re: TBird mail (was: user perms)

2022-06-18 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 6/15/22 7:14 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2022-06-15 06:34 (UTC-0400): > > > What the heck is this vertical bar it uses for a quote level > > That's taken care of here with one or both of these two entries in prefs.js > in the > profiledir: > >

Re: disable IPv6 debian

2022-04-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 4/15/2022 6:58 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:34:25AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I have an issue with a few websites that seem to hang with ipv6 If you happen to know their IPv6 addresses and can trust that those assignments will remain stable then you may

Re: disable IPv6 debian

2022-04-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 4/15/22 8:10 AM, wilson wrote: no. it's the Hadoop system, which has the possible issue with ipv6. thanks I would check the documentation for Hadoop - does it have an option to disable ipv6? I would just disable ipv6 for the app that has the issue with ipv6, not for the whole system. I

Re: disable IPv6 debian

2022-04-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 4/15/22 12:08 PM, Tim Woodall wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 11:21:46AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: Another improvement to the script would be to have the script toggle the default route on or off, depending on the existence

Re: disable IPv6 debian

2022-04-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 4/15/22 11:12 AM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 4/15/2022 10:50 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:34:25AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: user@debian:~$ cat ipv6 #!/bin/bash if [ $1 == "on" ] then ip -6 route add default via dev elif [

Re: disable IPv6 debian

2022-04-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 4/15/2022 10:50 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:34:25AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: user@debian:~$ cat ipv6 #!/bin/bash if [ $1 == "on" ] then     ip -6 route add default via dev elif [ $1 == "off" ] then     ip -6 route delet

Re: disable IPv6 debian

2022-04-15 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 4/15/2022 8:10 AM, wilson wrote: no. it's the Hadoop system, which has the possible issue with ipv6. thanks I have an issue with a few websites that seem to hang with ipv6, so I don't want to disable ipv6 permanently but only temporarily when I want to access those sites. One class of

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-30 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/29/22 3:16 PM, Joe wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:36:55 -0400 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I do like synaptic also because it saves a history of all the changes that it makes to the system. The apt tools also do this, but in a more user-hostile way. See /var/log/apt/history.log

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-29 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/29/22 10:46 AM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:54:23 -0400 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 3/28/22 5:35 PM, Ash Joubert wrote: On 29/03/2022 03:34, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/28/22 3:04 PM, songbird wrote: ... running unstable there's a few mailing lists i'd follow (release, devel and boot), ctte is also worth it for seeing what issues people are hitting that haven't had an easy answer yet. transition tracker too. Thanks, I will have a look at those

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/28/22 5:35 PM, Ash Joubert wrote: On 29/03/2022 03:34, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I think that's equivalent to the full-upgrade option of apt), I got

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/28/22 10:52 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:34:01AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: The problem is with the section that lists the packages that will be REMOVED. It looks like the upgrade to the python3 packages that remove/replace some existing python3 packages

Re: Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 3/28/2022 10:52 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:34:01AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I think that's equivalent to the full-upgrade

Does this happen often with sid?

2022-03-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
I am new to running the unstable sid distribution. Today I wanted to upgrade it and when using the dist-upgrade option of apt-get (I think that's equivalent to the full-upgrade option of apt), I got this: -- user@debian:~$

Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates

2022-02-21 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
. Regards, Chuck Zmudzinski

Re: Cannot login to my user?

2022-02-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
Dear Thomas, If you can login as Bob on the command line, try journalctl --user and look for some error from your last login attempt to the gnome desktop. If you cannot login on the command line as Bob, try sudo journalctl after logging in as Sally and look for some error from your last

Re: Misremembered (was: Re: Stupid question)

2022-02-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 2/14/2022 10:19 AM, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On 2022-02-14 10:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I think I did mis-remember this, and the behavior I described is more like the behavior of the Debian installer (i.e., it boots an image (with a Linux kernel)  into RAM to use temporarily for the

Re: Stupid question

2022-02-14 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 2/13/2022 11:23 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 13 feb 22, 02:40:27, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: This is my understanding of how grub works. It looks you are using the old MBR partitioning scheme. The logical partition indicates that. So I also assume you are using the legacy booting (not UEFI

Re: Stupid question

2022-02-12 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 2/12/2022 4:04 AM, Hans wrote: Dear list, I am thinking of a solution of a problem. But I have an understanding problem, maybe you can give some background knowledge. The problem: I have one harddrive, there are two linuces installed. The partitions are as followed: kali-linux: 1st

Re: Query

2022-02-07 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 2/7/2022 4:36 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 04:31:51PM -0500, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 2/7/2022 10:50 AM, William Lee Valentine wrote: I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2

Re: Query

2022-02-07 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 2/7/2022 10:50 AM, William Lee Valentine wrote: I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a DVD.) The computer is    Dell Dimension XPS T500: Intel Pentium III processor (Katnai)    memory: 756

Re: XEN domU: Guest Rx stalled, unreachable

2022-01-16 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 1/16/2022 7:16 AM, Felix Odenkirchen wrote: Dear all, I'm running a stock Debian SID vm on xen, hostname "vm-sid". Dom0 is on stock Debian Bullseye, hostname "bigiron-one". apt updating vm-sid packages on 2022-01-13 08:11:00 UTC rendered vm-sid unaccessible over network upon reboot. Updated

Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder

2021-11-27 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
Read the ntfs-3 man page. Take a look at the man page for ntfs-3g, the section on Access Handling and Security: From the ntfs-3g man page:    Access Handling and Security    By default, files and directories are owned by the

Re: GUI browser in VNC

2021-10-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 10/20/2021 4:01 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 10/20/2021 4:06 AM, Julius Hamilton wrote: Hey, I’d like to run a desktop in VNC and open GUI browsers like Firefox in it. I succeeded in setting up the VNC server but after installing Firefox, Chromium and Chrome I find they don’t open

Re: GUI browser in VNC

2021-10-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 10/20/2021 4:06 AM, Julius Hamilton wrote: Hey, I’d like to run a desktop in VNC and open GUI browsers like Firefox in it. I succeeded in setting up the VNC server but after installing Firefox, Chromium and Chrome I find they don’t open when I launch them. Is this because I am root user?

Fwd: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-29 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/28/2021 11:34 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 07:10:08AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: As the original poster, I can say this hits the nail on the head. Most definitely, Andy Smith and others claim a right to call newcomers like me a laughingstock, damned, etc

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-29 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/28/2021 10:23 AM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: Chuck Zmudzinski wrote on 28/09/2021 at 13:10:08+0200: On 9/27/2021 9:18 PM, Borden wrote: I sympathise with your frustrations. The open source "community" - especially Debian - is not known for its civility. There have bee

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-28 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/27/2021 9:18 PM, Borden wrote: I sympathise with your frustrations. The open source "community" - especially Debian - is not known for its civility. There have been numerous articles (and backlashes) identifying the rampant misogyny, racism, arrogance, murder and general rudeness amongst

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-26 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/26/2021 7:28 AM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 9/26/2021 7:18 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, September 25, 2021 12:58:44 PM Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am truly sorry, are there second chances in the Debian Community? I hope and trust so -- I've had to make use of them more than

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-26 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/26/2021 7:18 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, September 25, 2021 12:58:44 PM Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I am truly sorry, are there second chances in the Debian Community? I hope and trust so -- I've had to make use of them more than once ;-) ... That is why defamation

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-25 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/25/2021 10:02 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 09:06:34AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, September 24, 2021 05:31:47 PM The Wanderer wrote: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994899 - specifically. the first reply (comment 10). […] I've

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-24 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/24/2021 8:04 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 07:45:03 -0400 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: Hello Chuck, happened to me, but I would not be surprised if in the U.S. eventually Debian will get sued unless it scrubs its website of some of the In the USA, Section 230 covers

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-24 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/24/2021 8:04 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 07:45:03 -0400 Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: Hello Chuck, happened to me, but I would not be surprised if in the U.S. eventually Debian will get sued unless it scrubs its website of some of the In the USA, Section 230 covers

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-24 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/24/2021 10:10 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote: Hi Chuck On 2021/09/24 13:45, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I was accused in public of wrongdoing on the Debian bug tracking system which is hosted on a public, Debian website in response to a bug report I made. Since Debian's policy is to keep

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-24 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/24/2021 9:19 AM, Andy Smith wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 07:45:03AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I was accused in public of wrongdoing on the Debian bug tracking system That is an interesting point of view, but I think you were simply accused of being factually wrong and creating

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-24 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 9/24/2021 9:19 AM, Andy Smith wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 07:45:03AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I was accused in public of wrongdoing on the Debian bug tracking system That is an interesting point of view, but I think you were simply accused of being factually wrong and creating

Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-24 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
I was accused in public of wrongdoing on the Debian bug tracking system which is hosted on a public, Debian website in response to a bug report I made. Since Debian's policy is to keep everything on its website public, and I was told every message I send regarding Debian must be put on Debian's

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-24 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/24/2021 2:51 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: I don't know when an official fix will come , but I have come up with a workaround that works for me: Congrats. Great investigation work, as far as i can judge as bystander. So it's only the initrd and not the kernel

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-23 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/19/2021 3:11 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Chuck, On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:04:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: After some testing of the Debian 11 installer on Xen (using the debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso), I find that this image only supports installation into a Xen PV guest, the guest

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-23 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/21/2021 7:06 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 8/21/2021 5:52 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, there might be an easier way (still depending on whether such simple file replacements are tolerated by the booting system):    # Choose the desired new files new_kernel

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-22 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/16/2021 2:30 AM, John Mok wrote: Hi all, Tried to install Debian 11 guest using netinst, but the installer crashed and reboot automatically. Host: Xen 4.11.4 on Debian 10 Guest: Debian 11 (kernel 5.10) Here is the steps to reproduce the problem:- 1) Either guest BIOS or OVMF boot 2)

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-21 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/21/2021 5:52 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, there might be an easier way (still depending on whether such simple file replacements are tolerated by the booting system): # Choose the desired new files new_kernel=...path.to.desired.new.kernel.in.some.mounted.filesystem...

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-21 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/19/2021 3:11 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Chuck, On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:04:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: After some testing of the Debian 11 installer on Xen (using the debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso), I find that this image only supports installation into a Xen PV guest, the guest

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-21 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/21/2021 4:34 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, John Mok wrote: As a quick fix on the make installer media work, how can I remake my own installation ISO by recompil ing the kernel and initramfs ? Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: A quick solution would not even require any recompilation of a kernel

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/21/2021 12:08 AM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 8/19/2021 3:11 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Chuck, On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:04:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: After some testing of the Debian 11 installer on Xen (using the debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso), I find that this image only

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
follow the instructions in the wiki checkout the source code for the debian installer and from there you might be able to learn how to build and modify a Debian installation ISO. Regards, Chuck Chuck Thanks a lot. John Mok On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 12:08 Chuck Zmudzinski <mailto:brchu...@net

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-20 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/19/2021 3:11 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Chuck, On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:04:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: After some testing of the Debian 11 installer on Xen (using the debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso), I find that this image only supports installation into a Xen PV guest, the guest

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-17 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/17/2021 8:04 AM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 8/16/2021 4:25 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 02:30:33PM +0800, John Mok wrote: Hi all, Tried to install Debian 11 guest using netinst, but the installer crashed and reboot automatically.   Host: Xen 4.11.4 on Debian 10

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-17 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
file after getting the image configured for such a setup. I can even boot the same image on the bare hardware by tweaking the initramfs-tools configuration in the installed bullseye image. Chuck Zmudzinski

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-16 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/16/2021 1:40 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 8/16/2021 12:49 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 8/16/2021 4:25 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 02:30:33PM +0800, John Mok wrote: Hi all, Tried to install Debian 11 guest using netinst, but the installer crashed and reboot

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-16 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
On 8/16/2021 12:49 PM, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 8/16/2021 4:25 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 02:30:33PM +0800, John Mok wrote: Hi all, Tried to install Debian 11 guest using netinst, but the installer crashed and reboot automatically.   Host: Xen 4.11.4 on Debian 10

Re: Debian 11 installer crashed and reboot

2021-08-16 Thread Chuck Zmudzinski
not tried the bullseye debian installer on the xen hypervisor. Maybe for installing bullseye on xen you can try installing buster first then upgrade it to bullseye if the debian bullseye installer does not work on the xen hypervisor. Chuck Zmudzinski

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