Re: UNUBSCRIBE

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 01:52:53PM +, davidson wrote: > I guess this means that any of us could have bounced^[1] the OP's mail > straight to > > debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org Except then the user would not learn how to unsubscribe correctly, and someone would have to keep doing it for

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 09:15:31PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Fortunately, since my lost+found directories are all empty, I have no > "raw material" to practice extraction on. There's no "extraction". If a file is there, it will be a file. It will have a meaningful owner, group and permission

Re: Why or why not back up "/lost+found"

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:03:26AM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Default User (12023-08-10): > > > > And, if /lost+found should be excluded, then shouldn't "lost+found" > > > > in any other directories be excluded from backups as well? Why/why > > > > not? > > > Unfortunately, I regret to say th

Re: logging no longer standard?

On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 10:57:41PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/7/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: > > I have no idea which way you may break journald and why you have not > > just installed rsyslog yet if you trust it more and have a hope to find > > there more info than in journalctl output. jou

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:03:47PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > And I'm back > to hunting for the reason I can ping yahoo.com but not other machines on my > local net, that are fully identified in my hosts file or vice versa Start a new thread, and treat the problem seriously. Show us the command

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 05:17:23PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > It's a VPS provided by a local ISP. The VPS has a static IPv4. > Do you know how to know if /etc/resolv.conf is modified by dhcp? The first thing you could do is check whether a DHCP client daemon is running. That's usually a sign. Fai

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 07:37:35PM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > Unattributed: > > The file /etc.resolv.conf is just a soft link. Not always. > > You need to: > > > > 1: Delete /etc/resolv.conf - rm /etc/resolv.conf > > 2: Create a new /etc/resolv.conf file: touch /etc/resolv.conf > > 3: Configure yo

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:52:35PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 10:27 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:05:31PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > &g

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 10:05:31PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:13 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > > > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting? > >

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 09:28:55AM +0800, Jon Smart wrote: > How to stop the auto-changes to /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting? https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf

Re: Bookworm - cron?

On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 12:53:08PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote: > My VPS provider [...] > But cron isn't installed. > > What am I expected to use instead? (I assume that I *could* install cron, > but there must be a reason it's not installed by default anymore, right?) Just install it. Do not wast

Re: logging no longer standard?

On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > The release notes in particular are essential reading since > > otherwise a person won't know about major components that have > > changed, been replaced etc. > > Indeed, but they just

Re: logging no longer standard?

On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:12:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Does this clarify? > > https://wiki.debian.org/Rsyslog#Deprecation_in_Bookworm Ah, I didn't know about that page. It links to bug #1018788 which says, among other things, The main reason here is, that I want to avoid that log data i

Re: logging no longer standard?

On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:56:36AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > It is highly probable that I'm being grumpy because Debian changed something > that > I was used to for decades, without my realizing it. I'm more interested in > *using* my > computer than learning whole new paradigms about, say, logging

Re: Lack of text console?

On Fri, Aug 04, 2023 at 11:38:39AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Note that it needs some time after boot before getting the login prompt on > text consoles If your graphical Display Manager is already running, it's a safe bet that the text consoles are also ready for use. Try hitting Enter on a con

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:01:22PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > Interesting. Is there a Debian specification that explains the 127.0.1.1 > entry? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_hostname_resolution I'm sure there are others, but this was the first one I

Re: 127.0.1.1 line, was Re: chrome web browser worthless

> On Wed 02 Aug 2023 at 16:00:24 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On 8/2/23 15:15, Brian wrote: > > > Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. > > > > > True, but I've never seen a description of what that does or what its > > for. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-r

Re: chrome web browser worthless

On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:14:41PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Where is the line with 127.0.1.1? Debian always provides that. Either deleted, or not provided by Armbian in the first place. In any case, it's not immediately relevant to this thread's issue, so long as the web service doesn't redirect to

Re: chrome web browser worthless

On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:07:13PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/2/23 07:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous > > > > [...] > > > > It would be

Re: chrome web browser worthless

On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 08:43:32AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > * "localhost:80" - This is ambiguous > > In the case of the latter, are you wanting to use the localhost scheme to > access the resource called 80 (now, you're going to say "There is no > protocol called localhost" and I think that Ch

Re: chrome web browser worthless

On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 05:33:55AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Google seems to have high jacked port 80, I cannot use it as a browser to > run klipper as a google search intercepts port 80, so localhost:80 cannot be > used for troubleshooting or for running a 3d printer with klipper.. > > FF has

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 09:10:08PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 28 Jul 2023 at 16:04:10 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl error. > > Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) omits some X509 > > functionality, which

Re: How could a standalone python binary executable be made from a python script, to be run on other computers that don't have python installed?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 08:57:26AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > Is there something called a bare minimum virtualisation, where only > the python environment could be in a 'cage', isolated from the rest > system, so that irrespective of the virtual environment resides or is > removed the system rem

Re: How could a standalone python binary executable be made from a python script, to be run on other computers that don't have python installed?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 07:28:25AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > You are trying to create a stand alone Python script on Debian that > you can give to someone running Windows. > > Python is an interpreted language - so that person will need a version > of Python on their machine to run your s

Re: How could a standalone python binary executable be made from a python script, to be run on other computers that don't have python installed?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 07:08:35AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > I have considered myself as the 1st party. Debian universe as the 2nd > party and the rest as the 3rd party. So by my consideration, anything > 'Python' outside of the Debian Universe is 3rd party. I have rarely > install software out

Re: Are there Nvidia drivers on Trixie repositories right now ?

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 11:15:13PM +0200, rudu wrote: > Thank you David, but I thought that non-free-firmware should be enough for > the new testing repositories. > Should I had "non-free" to "main contrib non-free-firmware" ? > Sounds weird to me ... ?? The non-free-firmware section only contains

Re: NIS and systemd-udevd

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 10:31:09AM +0200, Christoph Pleger wrote: > I found out that, though this works for users listed in /etc/passwd, it > does not for users who have a remote NIS account. > > That problem already occurred a longer time ago, but in the meanwhile, > I had solved (by following su

Re: Error: no such device

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 06:46:31AM -0400, s.mol...@sbcglobal.net wrote: > I installed Debian 12.0.0 on my Linux platform form the net install iso > The computer has been in service since the last time I upgraded the system ...??? Did you *reinstall* Debian, or did you *upgrade* it? Those are tw

Re: General Questions

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 06:26:20PM +0600, Source Code wrote: > I use Debian on my PC not as a server. > > Using Debian for PC OS is not good? Is it recommended only for servers? Both are common. Debian aims to be good for any purpose. > And about third question, I mean: dwm and awesome wm. They

Re: General Questions

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 07:53:52AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Source Code wrote: > > 3. Is it possible to reduce RAM consumption? And minimize it? Let's say up > > to 100-200 mb? > > That depends on what you choose to run, and how. I would not > recommend trying to do anything interesting on a ma

Re: How could a standalone python binary executable be made from a python script, to be run on other computers that don't have python installed?

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 03:52:38PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > Thank you for writing back with the link leading to the Python > Discourse thread. I would have preferred a similar post assuring us > from the Debian Side. Can't accept a third party website info on face > value. You're talking to t

Re: a couple of problems after upgrading to bookworm

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 09:27:18AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > i915 :00:02.0: Direct firmware load for i915/skl_dmc_ver1_27.bin > failed with error -2 ...: 4 Time(s) > > Where can I find this firmware -- isn't it in the firmware-linux-free > package? unicorn:~$ dpkg -S /lib/firmware/i915/skl

Re: dpkg: error processing package mysql-client

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 05:55:12PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > Setting up mysql-common (8.0.34-1debian11) ... This package did not come from Debian. That's not a Debian version string (*none* of them have that pattern, with the literal word "debian" in between numbers), and besides, look

Re: Pulseaudio - Daemon.conf

login on a console and use "startx" to run an X11 session with fvwm. And here's what I'm seeing: unicorn:~$ ps -ef | grep -E 'audio|pulse|jack|pipe' greg11291112 0 Jul06 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/pipewire greg 11301112 5 Jul06 ?

Re: I reinstalled debian bullsee and still have the same messages and this one too

On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 08:13:44PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 7/15/23 18:59, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > > Sender:  pipewire > > > > time:  6:02:34 PM > > > > message:  Failed to receive portal pid: > > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Name.Has.NO.Owner!  Could not get PID of name > > "org.free

Re: Unable to ssh to Debian 9 from 9 or 11

On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 11:59:33AM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > rprice@kananga:~$ ssh -v rprice@maria > OpenSSH_7.4p1 Debian-10+deb9u2, OpenSSL 1.0.2l 25 May 2017 > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for * > debug1: Connect

Re: Where is zenmap?

On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 01:30:27PM +0200, Hans wrote: > does someone know, why and when zenmap was put off the repository? It would help if you said whether this was a package name, or a filename inside of another package. > I did not find a hint in the changelog of nmap, nor an advice > at htt

Re: For syslog : apt-get install rsyslog

On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 10:53:10AM +1200, C.T.F. Jansen wrote: > To restore a readable and accessible syslog in Debian 12.0 enter > >apt-get install rsyslog > > One doesn't need to do anything with the journal suite. > I installed rsyslog-doc as well. It is in: /usr/share/doc/rsy

Re: cannot install odcb mariadb in bookworm

On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 12:07:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > I'm asking because package names you trying to install have prefixes like > "0-...", "1-...", etc. > Are you following some tutorial, or you've manually downloaded ".deb" files > from somewhere? I've seen that too, on my sys

Re: Transport endpoint is not connected

On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:49:04PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 08:15:14AM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote on 7/4/23 22:23: > > > > > > > > > > FWIW, since upgrading to bookworm, I see: > > > >sh: 0: getcwd() failed: Transport endpoint is not c

Re: [partly solved] Re: mounting media in plasma5

On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 01:24:17PM +0200, Hans wrote: > But ne thing I could not understand, maybe someone can answer this: > > When Plasma5 (KDE) or any other application is creating a new mount > below /media/, where does this new folder gets its ACL rules? There is no such thing as "or any ot

Re: mounting media in plasma5

On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 04:09:23PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > If not: Can you create a new file in /media/myusername/ ? > > Nope, I can not. I was at a customer today and did an upgrade from bullseye > to bookworm and there I discvered this issue the first time, as he has a > hardrive with ext4. As

Re: mounting media in plasma5

On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 03:40:22PM +0200, Hans wrote: > getfacl /media/myusername/ > getfacl: Entferne führende '/' von absoluten Pfadnamen > # file: media/myusername/ > # owner: root > # group: root > user::rwx > user:myusername:r-x > group::--- > mask::r-x > other::--- > Exchanged my r

Re: Bookworm: missing sbin in root path?

On Sat, Jul 01, 2023 at 08:58:44PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > When I type "/usr/sbin/adduser", that works, but shouldn't root default to > having sbin in its path? You probably used su. describes the change and the known fixes.

Re: php 7.4 and bookworm

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 07:15:05PM -0400, John Covici wrote: > OK, so I installed the repo, and got php7.4, but there are still lots > of php82 packages installed. Do I have to install php7.4 equivalents > to each package? Any shorthand way to do the whole lot? At this point, you need to reveal

Re: Debian 12 "bookworm" full upgrade

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 09:36:19PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 08:16:20PM +, Patriot wrote: > > We cannot locate the EXACT, STRAIGHTFORWARD Instructions on HOW to do the > > procedure that includes the (now, apparently, separate) non-free software. You're overthi

Re: php 7.4 and bookworm

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 10:15:14PM +0200, basti wrote: > if you use mod-php in apache you can use only one php version. > if you use php-fpm you can run multiple php version at the same time. Ah, that explains our differing experiences, then.

Re: php 7.4 and bookworm

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 04:46:24AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > Hi. So, I want to upgrade to bookworm, but I have an application > which needs php 7.4 and I guess they are not yet ready to fix. So, > how can I keep that version, even if its just for that app? In previous releases, whenever I've u

Re: Debian 12, setting hostname does not persist

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 08:33:21PM -0400, David Mehler wrote: > The question is this, what kernel version (I believe it is 6.x?) comes > with Debian 12? The reason I ask is because of this: > > > #uname -a > Linux hostname.example.com 4.19.0 #1 SMP Thu Dec 15 20:31:06 MSK 2022 > x86_64 GNU/Linux

Re: digiKam dead, cannot import from camera

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 09:39:26AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/27/23 07:23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > How are you performing this download? > > > With digiKam V8.0.0 AppImage's import function. I can see the images on the > cameras card, but cannot download them the

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 08:51:07AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 27/06/2023 à 05:06, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > > > A lot of people who run stable releases use automatic upgrades. This > > is a thing that will attempt to run "apt update" and "apt upgra

Re: digiKam dead, cannot import from camera

ownership and permissions of all the directories along a path using "namei -l /full/path". For example, unicorn:~$ namei -l ~/tmp f: /home/greg/tmp drwxr-xr-x root root / drwxr-xr-x root root home drwxr-xr-x greg greg greg drwxrwxrwt root root tmp ... which I didn't even know had

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:51:36PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:10:38 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > DO NOT USE "stable" IN YOUR sources.list FILE! > > > And this is because... ? Because a full release upgrade is a

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 09:53:33PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > > * Stable/OldStable/OldOldStable to refer to the current and previous > > releases > > This sounds good in theory, but in the sources.list file, Debian > defaults to the code names, not "stable"/"testing"/"unstable". Fixi

Re: How to create a systemd service that interact with nftables service

On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 05:51:46PM +0200, André Rodier wrote: > I have a simple script, to save / and store dynamic nftables sets. > > I would like to create a systemd service, that starts -after- nftables is > started, and stops -before- nftables is > stopped. I think most of the time, this is

Re: Bookworm: Why don't I get the latest version of firefox-esr?

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 09:42:54AM +0930, Christian Gelinek wrote: > I just checked my Firefox version and noticed that I don't seem to have the > latest one available: > > $ apt show firefox-esr 2>/dev/null |grep Version > Version: 102.11.0esr-1 Do an "apt-cache policy firefox-esr" to see more d

Re: Follow recent stable Python versions

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 01:06:05AM +0200, Yoann LE BARS wrote: > As far as I know, Python is not part of backports. Is there any way > other > than pinning to install the last stable version of Python on a stable > version of Debian? Drop the idea that you have only one version of python3 i

Re: Angry, yet wrong too (was: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong)

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:09:28PM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > You have never heard of user agent spoofing have you? Sounds like yet another reason to discontinue communications with someone who has already raised many other red flags.

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:35:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > with a slight difference. So now I have an unk pw set for root, and will > likely have to re-install, again if I reboot. Nonsense. You can set a new root password with "sudo passwd root" any time you wish, even without knowing t

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 06:01:00PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Alright then the question is, is policykit the solution, or do we > install it, then spend two weeks and wreck 7 installs configuring > it to work? In other words, get to the specifics or find a new horse. I don't use synaptic, or xfc

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 04:56:39PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Apparently the broader dictum is "never run GUI apps as root". Why? > What's special about GUI apps versus those you run in a terminal? The extreme example is a web browser. Your typical web browser probably has thousands

Re: package managers problem

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 03:36:20AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > from an xfce4 terminal shell, it bitches about wayland and exits, Please show the command you typed, and the full output of that command. It's pretty irritating that we have to ASK for that. You should know to provide such basic inf

Re: Why wouldn't "stringing" of an input parameter using an array work? ...

On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 11:41:12PM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: > time ( find "${_DIR_BRNX}" -path "${_X_SUB_DIRS_AR[@]}" -prune -type f > -printf '%s|%d|%P|' -exec file --brief {} \; 1> "${_TMPFL}" 2> > "${_ERR_LOG}" ) > "${_TM_LOG}" 2>&1 I believe I've said this before, but it DEMANDS repeatin

Re: how to debootstrap Debian 8 Jessie released 2015-04-25 on Ubuntu 14.04

On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 10:22:56AM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > ok. these works : > > debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf jessie jessie-armhf > http://archive.debian.org/debian > > debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf strech strech-armhf > http://archive.debian.org/debian > > but not this : > >

Re: package managers problem

On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 03:12:23PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > One of the big differences between apt-get and aptitude is the resolver > > which is much more sophisticated (which doesn't necessarily mean always > > "better) in aptitude. > > Indeed, `aptitude` was not able to find a way to upg

Re: package managers problem

On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? Because each user has a different preference. Just read this thread for example, and see all the differing opinions about how we like our packages to be managed.

Re: package managers problem

On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 07:40:54PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/16/23 18:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Now, granted, this is just my personal stance. I may be atypical. > > That said, what exactly does a GUI package manager offer you, that > > you can't get from

Re: package managers problem

On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:35:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > 0 upgraded, 164 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 44.5 MB of archives. > After this operation, 206 MB of additional disk space will be used. I really don't understand why people want a GUI package manager

Re: Apache logs and systemd

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 12:30:37PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I’ve been running httpd for many years, long before systemd came along. > Somewhere in the various upgrades over the years I lost the old rotating > logs. > > Now I would like to initiate the rotating logs again. Can I do that with > s

Re: Bookworm upgrade, usrmerge failure

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:35:13PM +, bw wrote: > Right now I'm studying and trying to come up with a way to identify duplicate > filenames and/or symlinks between /bin /sbin /lib, and /usr/bin /usr/sbin > /usr/lib. I bet someone on the list could do it in a one line command. Well, it's not *

Re: Do I need X session?

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 03:59:40PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > I'm perfectly happy to have Debian give me a console login prompt, and > then I issue startx. That's what I use too. As well as several other people who post regularly on this mailing list.

Re: Bookworm upgrade, usrmerge failure

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 09:45:15AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I think I might try grabbing an older-than-buster version of debootstrap > out of snapshot.debian.org and see if I can manage to reproduce something. > But don't count on my success. I've succeeded in *partiall

Re: Bookworm upgrade, usrmerge failure

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 11:24:00AM +0200, Bastien Durel wrote: > > During bookworm upgrade, I ran into some usrmerge failures, which led > to an hard-to-fix situation > > Paramétrage de usrmerge (35) ... > > FATAL ERROR: > Both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn.so.11 and > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/

Re: Debian home page -> Download link broken:

On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 10:37:45PM +0100, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 11 Jun 2023 at 05:58:50 (-0400), songbird wrote: > > Tixy wrote: > > > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > >> Debian's wiki says to use apt-get: > > >> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see > >

Re: Debian home page -> Download link broken:

On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 03:24:16PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:12 AM Tixy wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > Debian's wiki says to use apt-get: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see > > > https://www.debian.org

Re: Debian home page -> Download link broken:

On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 09:20:41AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2023-06-11 at 09:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 08:12:49AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> The same thing applies to those who track 'stable' by that name.

Re: Debian home page -> Download link broken:

On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 08:12:49AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > The same thing applies to those who track 'stable' by that name. Using > the symbolic names for the releases, rather than the actual codenames, > *is semantically different* and the tools *should treat it differently*. Using "stable"

Re: Debian home page -> Download link broken:

> > On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0400, songbird wrote: > > > = > > > # apt-get update > > [...] > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug testing-debug > > > InRelease' changed its 'Codename' value from 'bookworm-debug' to > > > 'trix

Re: Debian home page -> Download link broken:

On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 06:52:59PM -0400, songbird wrote: > = > # apt-get update [...] > Reading package lists... Done > E: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug testing-debug InRelease' > changed its 'Codename' value from 'bookworm-debug' to 'trixie-debug' > N: This must be accepted

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 09:21:19PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > Unfortunately neither the Debian changelog of dash nor the commit > message for this change[2] give an explanation. Removing the debconf > handling certainly simplifies the package, and there are not too many > scripts around that sta

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 02:12:14PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On 10/06/2023 01:32, S M wrote: > > Yes. POSIX-compliance is a feature to me. I'd actually be fine with > > using dash itself but the lack of command line editing and filename > > completion is a deal-breaker to me. > Is command-line

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:45:04PM -0500, S M wrote: > Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh > pointing to bash and chsh to that. Why? Why not simply chsh to /bin/bash if that's what you want as your interactive shell? Are you somehow relying on bash's disabling

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 08:20:52PM +0200, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 09/06/2023 à 15:38, S M a écrit : > > I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that dpkg-reconfigure > > no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from dash to bash. This is > > apparently intentional as per the

Re: Bash invocation, was Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:47:56AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/9/23 09:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Start with .xsessionrc (the Debian hack) and see if that works. Put a > > PATH modification in there, and also put something like > > > > export GENETEST=hello &g

Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works

On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 07:20:29AM -0700, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > >From the comments on > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/dash/-/commit/c322a1c9fc6be11d7eb4439407c0a398aba8bbb7, > this is intentional and permanent. /bin/sh pointing to bash is no > longer supported. Huh. Well, that's rather impor

Re: Bash invocation, was Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 09:25:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/9/23 07:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Finally, remember that .xsession is run by /bin/sh, not by your login > > shell. So, if you've got bash syntax in .profile (or anything it dots > > in, such as

Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 06:20:07AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/9/23 00:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > This is actually the classical pattern of "layered configuration", which > > is widespread in the UNIX world. You see that often with a system config > > which can be overridden by a user co

Re: Bash invocation, was Re: 60-serial.rules, broken

On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 11:51:15AM +0100, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 06:20:07 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > Change of subject: > > > > I have a mod I make to the $PATH which I've put in .profile, but I've > > failed to find a place to make it autoexec when I login. And I'm tire

Re: Why wouldn't "stringing" of an input parameter using an array work? ...

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 06:07:28PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Why would: > > kate "file1_ps_-aux.txt" "file2_dmesg.txt" "file3_printenv.txt" & > > kate "${_FL1}" "${_FL2}" "${_FL3}" & > > work?, but stringing the file names using a loop wouldn't? Not sure what "stringing" means here. >

Re: Running Debian without initramfs?

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 06:34:36PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > IIUC trixy will enforce merged-usr, it's optional until then. (bicbw, it > might be bookworm that will enforce it - all my systems are already > merged and I don't run testing) Merged-usr is officially mandated for bookworm, and upgrad

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 04:51:44PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > I used to type "import foo.jpg" but got into the habit of typing "import > /tmp/foo" which produces the error message. > > So this afternoon I went back to typing "import foo.jpg" and this works > correctly, exactly as expected. Thank

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 02:39:11PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Roger Price wrote: > > > import-im6.q16: attempt to perform an operation not allowed by the > > > security > > > policy `PS' @ error/constitute.c/IsCoderAuthorized/421. > >

Re: Link to import-im6.q16 not allowed by security policy ?

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 02:06:12PM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > I use the import program provided by Debian 11 (bullseye) to grab parts of > the screen. This worked well but I was having difficulty remembering that > "import" means "screen-grab". So as root I set up the soft link > > ln -s /usr/

Re: Replacing a Motherboard and CPU

On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 06:47:07AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Mick Ab composed on 2023-06-06 11:38 (UTC+0100): > > > If I replace a motherboard in a desktop PC with a motherboard of the same > > model and manufacturer, do I need to do anything apart from reconnecting > > everything and possibly u

Re: Mount Permissions (btrfs subvolumes)

On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 11:00:18PM -0400, ce wrote: > On 6/4/23 5:46 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > What kind of hardware is this file system on? > > > > What kind of file system is it? > > > > How did you mount it?  (Show the command you used, and any output th

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 11:43:29PM +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 07:18:36PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > If you are running "startx" on tty1 in Debian 11 and Xorg is running > > as root instead of your regular user account, then START THERE.

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 11:03:27PM +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 08:26:55PM +0200 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > > i3-wm is a window manager, not a display manager. So it depends on > > what display manager you're using (if any). > > so we assume that the majority use a displa

Re: Mount Permissions

On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 11:59:21AM -0400, ce wrote: > I have a mountpoint where all files under it have a group `fuse`. You need to provide details, or else nobody can help you with anything. What kind of hardware is this file system on? What kind of file system is it? How did you mount it? (S

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 04:30:46PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > So the practice is that the whole internet dumps the whole framework > schtack [2] on you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssembly

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

On Sat, Jun 03, 2023 at 12:11:47AM +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 07:52:03PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > No "needs_root_rights" here, so I don't know why yours needs it. Maybe > > it's got something to do with driver selection? If I

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