Re: Echo on Realtek ALC662 soundcard

2020-06-27 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/27/20 3:44 AM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: Thanks for your help. I've looked into alsamixer and nothing I do there has fixed the echo I get on Debian buster with this card.  0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel   HDA Intel at 0xfdefc000 irq 28 I got the  Realtek

Re: On Subject drift [was: How long will this take?]

2020-06-27 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/27/20 10:51 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I'll take your question face value. While there are big similarities between both, I still see at least two (small!) differences. 1) The subject "how long will this take" at least gives a hint at something performance-related. The subject "have

Echo on Realtek ALC662 soundcard

2020-06-26 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
Thanks for your help. I've looked into alsamixer and nothing I do there has fixed the echo I get on Debian buster with this card.  0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel   HDA Intel at 0xfdefc000 irq 28 I got the  Realtek ALC662 rev1   from Alsamixer Thanks for your

Re: How long will this take?

2020-06-26 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/27/20 3:20 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: This (the above) subject line is not very good, but at least it gives a hint that it probably is, or at least could be, computer related. Would you please explain the computer related "hint" in "How long will this take?" For starters, I could

Re: How long will this take?

2020-06-26 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/8/20 10:22 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: I bought a new 4 terrabyte hard drive that is connected with a USB cable using USB2. It took about 32 hours to read every sector on the drive to look for bad sectors. I started blanking the sectors using /dev/zero last Friday night. It still isn't

Re: How to pick a Subject line for a mailing list [was: have you seen this inside....]

2020-06-21 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/21/20 8:35 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 08:22:49PM +0200, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: [...] Nothing like beating a dead horse for some, it seems. Uh... I'm genuinely sorry if I came across like that. I was mainly writing that for the benefit of others who might fall

Re: How to pick a Subject line for a mailing list [was: have you seen this inside....]

2020-06-21 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
, to complement yours. Here's the original subject again: have you seen this inside And now, dear OP (Seeds Notoneofmy), try to walk a couple of meters/yards in some random list reader's shoes: this list has (very roughly) 1000 mails/month [1]. That means about 30 mails/day. Someone picking mails

Re: have you seen this inside....

2020-06-19 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/20/20 2:26 AM, Anders Andersson wrote: Also, next time please respect the time of the thousands of people who are going to read this message live or search for it during the next years by selecting a more descriptive title... Thank you. I will do that next time. Sorry to everyone. Best

have you seen this inside....

2020-06-19 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
a debian buster machine? ATI Radeon HD5450 PCI-e https://www.amazon.de/Sapphire-Radeon-HD5450-Grafikkarte-Speicher/dp/B0036DD4CO If so, how did you get it working, please? Best wishes

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-19 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/19/20 9:28 PM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: Thanks a lot. And here's that output: 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] [10de:0391] (rev a1) Best I guess Hans was right, after all. This is what Debian asked to do Version 304.137

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-19 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/17/20 1:52 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: Because you didn't use "lspci -nn". See alsohttps://bugs.debian.org/929984 Thanks a lot. And here's that output: 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] [10de:0391] (rev a1) Best

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/14/20 5:45 PM, floris wrote: (From nvidia-detect) $ nvidia-detect 10de:0391 Checking driver support for PCI ID [10de:0391] Your card is only supported by the 304 legacy drivers series, which is only available up to stretch. In other words; downgrade Buster to Stretch if you want to use

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/14/20 5:45 PM, floris wrote: (From nvidia-detect) $ nvidia-detect 10de:0391 Checking driver support for PCI ID [10de:0391] Your card is only supported by the 304 legacy drivers series, which is only available up to stretch. In other words; downgrade Buster to Stretch if you want to use

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/17/20 1:00 AM, elvis wrote: On 17/6/20 5:49 am, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: On 6/14/20 5:45 PM, floris wrote: In other words; downgrade Buster to Stretch if you want to use the nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-304xx packages This isn't really an option :) buster-backports? yes, what

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/16/20 10:35 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: $ apt search nouveau and I got this: root@bruda:/home/brudabuster# apt search nouveau Sorting... Done Full Text Search... Done bumblebee/buster-backports,now 3.2.1-22~bpo10+1 amd64 [installed,automatic]   NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/16/20 10:35 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: $ apt search nouveau ... xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/stable 1:1.0.16-1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver So install that, make sure your X.org thinks it's the right driver to use, and reboot for good luck. I currently have the nvidia

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/16/20 10:03 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Sorry, you're wrong. Your card is in the NV40 column here: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/ It's pretty well supported. -dsr- ...and anyone who can help, please do. The problem is really bad, each website out there with video that

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/16/20 10:03 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Sorry, you're wrong. Your card is in the NV40 column here: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/ It's pretty well supported. Thanks, Dan. But can you confirm: are you saying that my card is fully supported under Buster? If so, then we

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/14/20 5:45 PM, floris wrote: In other words; downgrade Buster to Stretch if you want to use the nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-304xx packages This isn't really an option :) Maybe you can install the 304 driver, but you must downgrade the Xserver to version 1.19 But this one seems to

Re: "NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-16 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/14/20 8:59 AM, Hans wrote: the 7600GT was supported by debian (I am not sure, if it still is with the actual kernel). At the moment it is supported by the kernel module "nouveau", but when you need hardware acceleration for i.e. games or other applications, you have to install the driver

"NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"

2020-06-13 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
Can I please get it from the gurus here, whether this card, NVIDIA  GeForce 7600 GT, works in Debian buster. I've used this guide, https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Identification But do have problems: youtube will go black before images show up vlc will go black before playing

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-13 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/12/20 3:36 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote: Mine appears under "Sound & Video" I'm using LXDE Debian Buster. Thanks a lot. That's where I just found mine.

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-11 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/8/20 8:20 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Debian does very little customization of the various Desktop Environments, you are experiencing upstream's take on usability. Kind regards, Andrei Thanks a lot, Andrei, this is very, very helpful.

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-11 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 10:58 PM, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: Please just run the following commands as a simple user (no need to cd to anything): * cat /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop * cat /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrainz.Picard.appdata.xml * desktop-file-validate

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 10:22 PM, Marco Möller wrote: I am surprised about Ubuntu in your experience not being as stable and secure as Debian. While Debian is a philosophy and developing an extremely good OS, Ubuntu builds on top of it. Substituting philosophy by commercial interests and that's when I

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 9:33 PM, Joe wrote: Wouldn't that be something like Android? Where the user no longer owns his computer, and therefore cannot break it, where there is one and only one minimally-customisable user interface, where only software approved by the OS vendor is available where the

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 9:24 PM, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: OK, just to be sure, can you please copy/paste in 2 text files the content of: * /usr/share/applications/org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop * /usr/share/metainfo/org.musicbrainz.Picard.appdata.xml xscreensaver-properties.desktop yelp.desktop

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 8:48 PM, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: What is your output of: dpkg -L picard Are you sure you want it, it's pretty long. I've made a text document of it. It's attached, all 8 pages of it. (.odt) Thanks for asking and helping. picard_issues.odt Description:

Re: Zoom- best practice?

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 8:57 PM, Nicolas George wrote: We have to acknowledge: there are no Libre Software solutions for videoconferencing. Having said all that, the instructions to get BBB going seems solid. Perhaps someone here with a bit of knowhow will do this and then put a guide here? That would be

Re: Zoom- best practice?

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 8:57 PM, Nicolas George wrote: We have to acknowledge: there are no Libre Software solutions for videoconferencing. Well, that's about wrap this thread up. Thanks. And I'm glad I did not proceed with the BBB promise. They've been around since 2007, but we cannot say of them, an

Re: Zoom- best practice?

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 8:37 PM, Nicolas George wrote: Do you have evidence of somebody other than the authors themselves having managed to build it? This made me laugh, as I know where it's coming from; over promise, under deliver. Of course, it works; in theory. But in practice, well, that could take

Re: Zoom- best practice?

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/5/20 8:57 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote: Look into Big Blue Button and see if you can get your family to try that instead. bigbluebutton is interesting. Thanks for the thought. Many family members use Zoom, and like me, are past seven decades. Several of the younger set use Zoom also. I think

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 7:52 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 6/7/20 10:23 AM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu. The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century. I

Re: Zoom- best practice?

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/5/20 7:09 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: I did not test with Chromium or Firefox or anything else. Just tried it two days ago on Firefox. It was a disaster. No sound. And screensharing did not work, at all.

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 7:37 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/07/2020 12:23 PM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu. The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 7:37 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/07/2020 12:23 PM, Seeds Notoneofmy wrote: Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu. The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century

Re: why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
On 6/7/20 7:37 PM, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: From my side, Picard appears under Multimedia>MusicBrainz Picard. Here is the related desktop file (org.musicbrainz.Picard.desktop): Thanks a lot. But I do not have 'Multimedia,' instead Applications > Sound & Video Thanks.

why !oh why Debian and application list

2020-06-07 Thread Seeds Notoneofmy
Well, as the subject suggests, I'm a bit fed up with the logic behind how installed programs are sorted out in the Applications menu. The need to go hunt down an installed application seems yester century. I just installed Picard, and it does not show up in Sound and Video, where logic would