Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
True. But my personal experience includes quite a bit of work with word,
OOo *and* LaTeX.
Happy for you. Let me know when you turn into me so your personal
experience matches mine. I'll be happy to let you write the book for me. :P
LaTeX, especially without
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
It does not retain the formatting in the sense that it retains page and
line breaks. But it does retain the structure and italics, etc. ie. all
that appears to be important in your case.
Or margins. That is not inconsiderable.
I didn't want to do hair
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
OOo - Save As .doc
LaTex - Export to HTML, find an HTML to .doc converter, hope all the
formatting goes through (which it won't).
No: LaTeX - Export to HTML; open html in OOo - Save as .doc.
One additional
explained in
detail for me. That means that outside some serious wrangling LaTeX is out of
the picture. Yet others (not you) have continued on to get more and more
unreasonable in their assertions that not only is LaTeX a /possible/ answer
that it is /the best answer *for Steve Lamb*/.
I don't
Ron Johnson wrote:
You're saying that only stringent proponents get to define the usage
parameters of a system.
No. But their usage parameters are the only one that change significantly
from what I'm working with now. It's a matter of drop the WYSIWYG and do the
work in LaTeX vs. Save in
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
If there is a problem than this: you don't just take the advice, you
claim that the advice is *unsuitable* to your problem, which it is not.
Johannes, who are you to judge the suitability of any particular tool to
*my problem*. Part of that problem is me, my work
Ken Irving wrote:
That's a good point. Someone posts a question, and a lot of views and
ideas may be presented, whether relevant to the OP's question or not.
The OP doesn't own the thread that results, and attempts to keep the
discussion focused may degenerate into what's perceived of as
Ron Johnson wrote:
Since I don't think we will change each other's mind regarding this,
I think it should be dropped.
This is D-U, you can't do that!
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David Brodbeck wrote:
Maybe I'm confusing threads. I thought one of his requirements was
searchability and version control. Version control tools don't work
well with OOo because, by design, it produces opaque binary files.
You're not confusing the two. Yes, it was listed as a
Jochen Schulz wrote:
What does Subversion have to do with Perl?
Huh... For some reason I was under the impression it was written in Perl.
It is not, it is written in C. So, uhm... that changes it to Eww, C!
:) Mea culpa.
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Neil Watson wrote:
With TeX and LaTeX and its ilk the templates actually work. I can use
the same template for all of my reports and they always look the same.
There are no annoying format inconsistencies that are so common with
Word and OpenOffice.
To be fair I am operating out a large
Ron Johnson wrote:
Do you happen to have a bug number?
I do not. I found several references on the OOo forums when searching for
methods of setting my documents to uncompressed for use with Subversion.
On the bright side Mercurial does have a FAQ about using Mercurial with
OOo
Ron Johnson wrote:
PDF?
Haven't seen it as an acceptable format for submission, no.
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Kumar Appaiah wrote:
I am actually a bit surprised. Numerous scientific books are written
in TeX. In fact, Dr. Knuth's own books are typeset in TeX, which is
what eh created TeX for. Besides, I am really surprised publishers
won't want TeX, since a lot of books I've read have acklowledged that
Miles Fidelman wrote:
It was sort of disappointing to see a discussion that has focused
primarily on version control tools, and a little on TeX vs. Word vs.
Open Office issues.
This is D-U where the relative geek level is high. We're going to tend
towards the technical solutions over the
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
These people do not accept PDF? wow.
I surmise it is because they have word processors for document
modification during the editing process. PDF is mainly a display format, not
an editable format. Seems incongruous with accepting printed submissions but
have KUbuntu because I do want the
niceties. I don't want to have to dig into it. I just want to read my
mail, write my stories, browse the web and play my games. I'm guessing
that is the level your GF is at. So have her give a distribution that
is geared for that level a try.
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Exactly. I have not heard of LaTeX outputting to Word. I have heard of
an ODT to Word converter OOo. ;)
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creative tasks. Creative tasks are personal. Processes and tools which
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Rob Mahurin wrote:
I know you've settled on OOo, but it's worth pointing out that TeX is
a simple language if you're writing a simple document. In particular
you are already writing valid plain TeX in your email. Copy the above
(without the 's) into file.txt; change /'thinking'/ to {\it
Ron Johnson wrote:
It's too bad that OOo doesn't let you specify uncompressed as a
document attribute. Or even have a directory-as-document mode.
That would be the best of both worlds. KOffice does allow such a thing
for OASIS documents. However from what I've read it is not as adept at
Miles Bader wrote:
I object to having python and tcl on my machine.
I can understand TCL but Python, c'mon, that's just crazy talk!
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Ron Johnson wrote:
On 09/24/07 11:02, Osamu Aoki wrote:
Ron, why you are so negative on OOo?
Negative? Hardly. I'm just wishing for new features, that's all.
Like text to columns in Calc without resorting to a plugin? Seems like a
no-brainer. :/
But it is long 1 line XML file w/o
Russell L. Harris wrote:
As a writer and programmer, it appears to me that it is OpenOffice --
rather than SVN -- which is unsuited for the application which is the
basis for this thread.
While I do agree that OOo seems to be the culprit here I do not follow you
down the same path of
Osamu Aoki wrote:
I hear hg (Mercurial at http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/ ) is better on
Windows as modern distributed VCS than git. Both of these are good if
you want to record revision off-line and sync with server occasionally.
But these are new...
Just for the record for those who
Hello,
I am looking for a tool to help me maintain a backup of a writing project.
Being a programmer my first instinct is to use something along the lines of
rcs/cvs. I was thinking of svn since I have a project on Google Code and have
the tools installed on one of the machines on which I
Ron Johnson wrote:
How big (in bytes) is this writing project?
Right now, tiny.
So why couldn't you tar up your directory into proj_timestamp.tar
and rcp it to a couple of other computers? (Since you use odt, no
need to compress the tarball.)
o sync across multiple machines.
Ron Johnson wrote:
Tarballs don't sync across machines, they overwrite. Also it's a matter
I don't mean sync, I mean copy.
I know what you meant. But you are flatly ignoring my requirement for
syncing. I make an edit on Machine A and toss-a-tarball onto whatever
machine(s) I decide.
Ron Johnson wrote:
Asking questions and making comments are *not* arguing.
Ron, we've been over this. Every time I ask a simple question on the list
someone, not always you granted, but someone takes me to task about exactly
what it is I want or why I am doing something this way and not
Andrei Popescu wrote:
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If you just want to read other comments see bugs.debian.org/427218
( Also posted to the bug database for posterity. )
No, check the archives on this
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
Is there any financial institution who offer credit cards and also help
free software? Even if they do not help free software, I would be happy if
they have a website which is browser independent.
I use WAMU here without problems at all with Firefox. They
Richard Lyons wrote:
I've never heard of it before either, even though I've been here on and
off for years. On the other hand, I've never seen a problem posting, or
been aware that there was a problem.
Never had a problem posting either and my setup is far from typical.
I've gone from a
Noah Dain wrote:
particularly relevant:
http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projeler/comar/SpeedingUpLinuxWithPardus.html
Awesome read. Kinda neat to see a concept I was kicking around in my head
realized independently elsewhere. Thank you very much for the link.
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Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Nothing was dropped from Perl. It seems that the main problem
concerning FreeBSD is that Perl was growing quite fast (e.g. more
and more features, not needed in the FreeBSD base), and of course,
installing an incomplete version of Perl would lead to problems.
See
Rick Thomas wrote:
Hmmm... Now, that's a problem! During the early part of the boot
process the root filesystem is read-only until it's been fsck'ed.
There's no safe place to put the compiled modules.
Not really. It cannot be compiled during the initial run if the
filesystem is RO.
David Brodbeck wrote:
The other is that the load time for bash is shorter. Everyone complains
that their system boots too slowly as it is. ;)
Microscopically. On the other hand it has been my experience that it
isn't the load time of bash that is the problem, it is the constant
Steve Lamb wrote:
When it comes to Python in a role of system initialization there are
some very simple things one can do that would dramatically increase load
times.
Decrease load times, increase efficiency. Meh, my mind combined the two
rather poorly.
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Mark Neidorff wrote:
So now I'm
wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect intended to anyonne)
which is the preferred way of installing software?
The one your comfortable with. aptitude is recommended mainly because it
is a best of breed of the CLI package tools. The key
David Brodbeck wrote:
In particular, Bash's test (aka [)
operator has pitfalls. Testing for an empty variable, for example, is
awkward. If you do:
if [ $foo == ]
Yeah, prefer:
if not foo:
do something
-- there are few languages where it's quite so easy to test conditions
Ron Johnson wrote:
I've written enough cryptic Python and lucid C bash to know that
Python does *not* enforce clean coding.
I don't think anyone has ever claimed that.
What a waste. bash is *great* for looping thru lists. (Perfect?
No. But still great.)
So is Python with the
Mark Neidorff wrote:
Thanks. That solved 2 annoyances. Its too bad about the vim install.
Another of those things about Etch that doesn't make sense to me.
I think it is because of the minimal install. I may be wrong but I think
at some point in the past they replace nvi with
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-11 11:34:48 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Really? Tell that to the Perl 4 programmers.
Perl 4 is obsolete and no longer used, and has complete disappeared
from Debian a long time ago.
I'm not the one who used Never.
Concerning python,
one still has 5
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Imagine a filename contains: ' `some command`
Yes, because you get:
echo '' `ls -l`'
I get? *I* get? Pst, look up above. *YOU* decided say Imagine a
filename contains: ' `some command` Quoted right there.
which is not valid. Try with:
So now you're
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
A part of the language is a bit obsolete. Some features are deprecated
(but can be useful for some one-liners). Unlike Python, nothing is
removed from Perl, so that old Perl scripts can still run and there
is no need for N versions on the disk.
Really? Tell that to
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Braces are not a problem: they are kept in a copy-paste, and if for
some reason a brace is missing (because you did a mistake), then you'll
get a syntax error
Unless, of course, you are programming in C with that pesky...
if
foo;
bar;
...problem.
In
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2007-08-09 09:48:54 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
The same in Python but with far greater functionality:
and a security hole!
And the one liner stopped this how, exactly? I mean it was globbing the
file fer pete's sake!
result = os.system(lame -h -b 160
Nate Duehr wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
Quick, take your one liner, have it traverse an entire directory tree
converting all the wavs (regardless of capitalization) to mp3s, oggs
and flac, sorting all 4 into their own directory trees.
To make your point, you'd need to do all of the above
Nate Duehr wrote:
And when you venture past yours, you'll find that ALL programming
languages have SERIOUS flaws in them... and that most can get this
particular relatively simple job done, just fine, with fairly similar
amounts of effort by someone who is sufficiently skilled in that
Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Why not zsh (more powerful than bash) or perl?
Because to some Perl is horrible compared to Python.
for FILE in *.wav; do lame -h -b 160 $FILE $FILE.mp3; done
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't I just end up with with a bunch of
files named blahblah.wav.mp3?
Manon Metten wrote:
- Which one is easiest to learn?
Between Bash and Python, Python.
- Which one is more powerful?
Python.
- Can I execute /bin commands from within a python script
(something like mkdir or ls)?
Yes, though for those examples you don't need to. The os
Jeff D wrote:
It has nothing to do with shell, python, perl or what ever. You would
still have rename the file extention:
Yes, you would. And therein lies the point. One liners often aren't.
Quite often something comes up and whoops, need to do this and then d'oh,
need to do that and
Manon Metten wrote:
Well, I find Perl easier to understand. The problem may be with some
programmers who don't know how to write readable code... Now, the thing
I really hate concerning python is that it is sensitive to indentation;
this means that some operations like
Manon Metten wrote:
Than, probably I didn't understand it correct. I thought of it as some
prefixed indentation. I like eg. to indent with two spaces and not four or
six. But then I consequently stick to it. If that's what you mean, then it
ain't no problem for me.
It is but it isn't.
Stefan Monnier wrote:
Just remember to tell you editor to inserts spaces as tab and set
the tab width to something reasonable like 4.
Please don't. TABs are 8 spaces apart. Always have been, always will be.
People playing silly tricks with tab-width is the main reason why using TABs
in
Giorgos D. Pallas wrote:
I tried google but can't seem to find something that both looks decent
*and* is available for debian (testing) as a binary. For example I tried
qtorrent, but it is so minimal that I don't like it... Or to put it in
another way: Which client resembles most the windows
Mike McCarty wrote:
Just my $0.02. YMMV
[*]
$ uname -a
Linux Presario-1 2.6.10-1.771_FC2 #1 Mon Mar 28 00:50:14 EST 2005 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux
It took my machine 3 seconds to do a copy after selecting
that text on my screen, because the disc ran that long after
I clicked on the Edit
William Pursell wrote:
If a cyclist is riding against the flow of traffic,
Am I the only one who grew up where the law was cyclists were to ride
against the flow of traffic?
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
Its a problem and I don't deny it. There needs to be a
solution. dedicated bike lanes are probably the best.
Unless you're a dedicated bicyclist in which case you'll really dislike
dedicated bike lanes. AKA, the refuse lane since all of the nice debris
from
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..I have seen web stuff pointing to Ariel Sharon being unhappy joining
W's war on terror on NATO's side because of the full 4 Geneva
Conventions, instead lobbying these Wannsee language games, this is why
it took them so long (November 2001) to join in.
You really
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Show me one instance where I defended the actions of terrorists.
This thread, pretty much every message you post to it.
or non-existent. Show me one case where this has happened, since
you state that is what's going on.
Well, that's a lovely standard.
Daniel B. wrote:
That's an unrealistic case that distracts from the rest of the cases.
It's rare the you _really_ know. (Remember that 24 is fiction.)
Oh, I am quite aware it is fiction. The problem isn't that I have
forgotten that 24 is fiction the problem is that you, and others, do not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find the actions of these terrorists just as abhorrent as you do.
I doubt that since as far as I have seen until just now you have done
nothing but defend them.
Not to mention that such actions are counterproductive. If someone
is tortured into
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied
their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty
obvious that the QCs don't apply provision was the operational part
of this order, and not taken out of context quite badly.
anoop aryal wrote:
i'll take etch when it's good and ready and not a day before. i'd rather have
a working OS, free of bugs, late than a half baked, bug-ridden POS, on time.
Then you'll be waiting forever because even Debian does not ship stable
releases free of bugs.
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Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
It raises the question. And the answer is yes.
Everybody behaving in a certain way does not make it right. Just as
everybody thinking something does not make it true.
Except, of course, when it comes to language, especially idioms, where a
large enough
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:53:50 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Cloudless sky with negligable wind is an absence of weather.
Just as white is the absence of color?
..white is the absence of color?
Yup. People say
mc3393 wrote:
so if Arnt had reason (as he has)
Uhm, how does he have reason when he is attributing actions to an entity
prior to its existence? That would be like me claiming that Brazil, in league
with Australia, were directly responsible for the fall of Rome and you saying
I had reason.
Michael Pobega wrote:
a point). And if you don't want to believe me then don't, /I/ don't
care what you think, /I'm/ just trying to get /my/ point across in
what /I've/ seen in /my/ experience.
That's find. And in my opinion and my experience you're biased and full
of crap.
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Michael Pobega wrote:
I don't see how I'm biased. I personally dislike Ubuntu,
Yeah, and you can't figure out where the bias comes from?
There's no need for you to be so hostile, I'm not being hostile.
I'm not being hostile, just getting tired of your arrogance. You claim
for all
Joe Hart wrote:
If Ubuntu = Debian, then one could install Ubuntu packages on one's
Debian system. They could install Debian packages on their Ubuntu.
While some might work, the majority of them will not. Why not? Because
Ubuntu is not Debian. They are similar, I'll give you that.
Er
Joe Hart wrote:
If you Run Sid, you don't have to worry about that *ever* happening.
Yes, you do. If you think otherwise I'll ask where the updated packages
for Bo are.
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Nik wrote:
I would be interested how you reach a figure of 75%
How many Ubuntu users have you polled?
Well, my upgrade from Edgy to Feisty broke. Of course it was my own
stupid fault for having a 200Mb boot partition and the initrd coming out to 0
length leaving the machine in an
Joe Hart wrote:
Exactly. So, if you want to keep your software current and run Ubuntu,
then you need to reinstall the operating system every six months.
Er, no. I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty, no problems other than the
one *I* created for myself that would have hit Debian just as
Freddy Freeloader wrote:
To tell the truth the Debian way of doing things, and I'll admit I'm
biased because I'm far more familiar with Debian, is more
straightforward and seems more logical to me. It doesn't hide anything
like the Ubuntu way of doing things does.
There's hiding and
Paul Johnson wrote:
Cloudless sky with negligable wind is an absence of weather.
Just as white is the absence of color?
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Paul Johnson wrote:
I think it speaks volumes about how indefensible your position is that you
resort to ad hominems.
You know, I never understood this rational. It seems to me that it
provides a simple way for the idiotic and crazy to win an argument. They
can keep spewing their
Michael Pobega wrote:
Anything you can do on Ubuntu you can do on Debian, but the truth is
that Debian provides much more functionality, stability, and ease of
use than Ubuntu
Er, wha? You just had several people tell you that things are easier on
Ubuntu out of the box and you've the gall
Michael Pobega wrote:
Months of hanging out on the Ubuntu forums, both lurking as a guest
and being a registered member for a while:
Yes, because the forums are a fair representation of the Ubuntu community
at large.
Steve, Debian user, KUbuntu user and not a Ubuntu forum user. :P
Lemme preface this with the fact this was originally posted on
Ubuntu-User. However as I'm running Debian as well and know a few people
here are Sylpheed-Claws gurus sending it here (*NOT* crossposting) simply so
as not to have to retype the question.
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:15:37 -0700
Steve
Clive Menzies wrote:
Sorry I just can't let this pass
Justifications for the Iraq war:
Weapons of Mass Destruction er no!
Er, yes. As I posted the justification was not that they were present but
that Hussein was seeking to obtain them. Given that in the past he has had
them and
Celejar wrote:
claimed that: UNO resources telling me that there are currently 27% of
jobless peoples in the USA, 8% in France and arround 5% in Germany.
Anyone have an explanation or source for these figures? I am under the
impression that the US has among the lowest unemployment figures in
Paul Johnson wrote:
Why not just go bioethanol in a larger percentage year round? Portland is,
and it might go statewide by the end of the session. Gasoline sales are
banned here for the better.
Probably because to produce 1 gallon of bio you need to use 1 gallon of
gasoline. It's
Mike McCarty wrote:
This whole thread strikes me as unusually rancorous. ISTM
that MS is providing a Good Thing, and STILL one complains about
being stuck with it. Here is a place where MS is better than
Linux, yet that still does not get acknowledged.
Er, when wasn't it ackowledged? You
Greg Folkert wrote:
* $3/gal Fuel
Which is still lower than Europe.
* Air travel just isn't what it used to be
Like them attacking us didn't have an impact, eh?
* DHS (this one really sucks)
Er, wha?
* Over-reactions from Boston's Police Department
Liam O'Toole wrote:
What's more, in Debian the bittorrent core is stuck in the year 2004.
Apparently there are licence issues with more recent versions.
Yeah. :/ A similar discussion went on the Ubuntu lists recently which is
why I knew pretty much what you want wasn't there.
Never
Ron Johnson wrote:
If she really needs VR, then she's stuck with MS Windows.
Er, well, maybe not. Is there a chance that OSX would give her what she
needs? I know it isn't free (speech/beer) but IMHO it is a step closer. I
mean it isn't Microsoft and it is based on FreeBSD.
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Paul Johnson wrote:
We had 1% unemployment in the clinton years. It's several times that now.
Nice lie, Paul. 1%? Where?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Us_unemployment_rates_1950_2005.png
The lowest Clinton had was 4%. In fact Bush is getting beat up over
unemployment figures
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8 Mar, Steve Lamb wrote:
It is according to the US constitution. How well we are doing it
is another question.
I'm sorry, but have you even read it? I doubt it, most people haven't.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that the medicare numbers may be too optimistic, but I don't see anyone
claiming that private plans are the more efficient.
Kinda need to know the sources and methodology before one can make a
decent argument against it.
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Paul Johnson wrote:
Very probably. Better question: Would we be paying trillions of dollars to
make it happen and get blamed for destabilizing the region when Saddam died
left to his own devices?
Even better question, how many more trillions of dollars would we have
spent to clean it up
Paul Johnson wrote:
Oregon.
Bully for you. And Oregon is the only indicator in the US for
unemployment or might there just be 49 other data points to consider? I'm
pretty sure if we decided to go state-by-state or county-by-county during the
Clinton years we could find places that have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Resorting to ad hominem attacks already? Of course I've read it.
You really need to bone up on your terminology. See, if I had stopped
there it would be ad hominem. However I didn't stop there. That wasn't an
argument, that was an expression of disbelief.
Liam O'Toole wrote:
I am looking for a graphical bittorrent client for etch. My
requirements are that it supports encryption and integrates nicely with
the GNOME desktop. Here are the ones I have evaluated so far.
Given your constraints, none. Linux BT clients are sorely lacking which
is
Paul Johnson wrote:
$0. US responsibility ends at the border.
Yeah, we saw how well that went in WWI and WWII. You do realize that if
the lid isn't kept on we'd be facing the same situation?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Providing for the welfare of the citizens? That is, after all,
a function of government.
Not around here it's not. At least not to the extent you and Paul believe
it is.
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Paul Johnson wrote:
Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The entire world save Britian
apparently had better intelligence on the Iraq situation than we did.
Er, so how does this translate into Bush lied? It's amazing how when a
lie is repeated often enough it becomes truth. The lie isn't
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Allowing the inspectors to continue, as most of the world wanted to
do. Possibly augmenting them with CIA or FBI agents (IRAQ said that
they would allow this).
Tell me, how many chances does a dictator and thug like Saddam get before
and this time, we mean
Chris Bannister wrote:
I *too* would like to know how bash can do that. Is zsh worth changing
to just for that? Yeah, I know apt-get install zsh-doc :-)
Just for that? Who knows. I however switched to zsh quite a while ago
because bash just befuddled me. It seemed like simple things that
Paul Johnson wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:02:26AM +0100, Mitja Podreka wrote:
The terms socialism and communism were vandalised by the authoritarian
governments and individuals, in order to legitimate their authorities
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Please explain how in the world you have a true market economy when the
private interests don't even control the means of production?
Uh... magic faerie dust?
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