Re: aptitude has poor exit status behaviour

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:24:15AM +, Nick Boyce wrote: > In the course of scripting some aptitude upgrade activity I've found > that (Etch) aptitude's error handling [cough] falls short of optimum > behaviour. In particular it returns an exit status of zero in various > failure situations, wh

Re: back to basics: what's wrong with this exim condition statement?

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:03:29PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: > nevermind - I finally figured it out... do tell Bob! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Files/directories dated 2012?

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:24:57AM -0800, Robert Bond wrote: > I ran apt-get update on my etch system yesterday. It has been a while so 40+ > packages showed up to be upgraded. I installed them... Most of it appeared > to be Open Office upgrades. The upgrade blew up. I tracked the problem down > to

Re: network modules loading?

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:09:16AM -0500, Dave wrote: > Hello, >Newbie to Debian. I've got a 4.0 system with two nics in it, one a > realtek 8139, the other a 3com 3c905. One is configured via dhcp, the other > will be via static. I read that /etc/modules contains the names of kernel > drive

Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

2007-12-12 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 08:29:02 pm Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/11/07 20:20, Michael Pobega wrote: startx /usr/bin/startkde Remembering that, I tried "startx startkde", but that bombed. Now I know why... Why? I _think_ Ron is saying that earlier

Re: X server crashes everything

2007-12-12 Thread Kent West
Andrew Varner wrote: Hi I have a problem with the X server. When I type 'X', the screen goes black and everything stops. SysRq+b doesn't even work. Is it likely that I am missing the driver? The video driver is where I would start. I'd shoot for the lowest common denominator to start, by "dpk

Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:31:40PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> startx uses ~/.xinitrc to start up the X session. In case it doesn't >> exist, then debian has some default stuff that starts whatever the >> default window manager is. Lo

Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

2007-12-11 Thread Kent West
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: startx uses ~/.xinitrc to start up the X session. In case it doesn't exist, then debian has some default stuff that starts whatever the default window manager is. Look at `update-alternatives --config x-window-manager` to set a different window manager as the de

Re: backup script partly fails when in cron.weekly

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:24:07AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > Benjamin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But maybe you should not use this (in my opinion) unusual command "find > > / -print ...". Instead use tar, like: > > > > tar -zcvf /media/mirror/`date +%F`.tar.gz -C / --exclude=/me

Re: Wating for root file system. Kernel bug?

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:13:49PM +0200, wanderlust wrote: > Hello. > > I'm trying to install Debian/etch on Acer Aspire 5520G, but the problem > is, that kernel 2.6.18 doesn't support Marvell netcard 436b. I found it > is supportable in 2.6.23.9, so I decided to compile it. I used default > conf

Re: System Lockup

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:50:26PM +0100, strawks wrote: > > I just experienced my first ever system lockup. No mouse, no keyboard > > with an Iceape screen open. > > > I had saved a posting regarding SYSRQ and I tried Alt-Sysrq k then > > Alt-Sysrq i and the Alt-Sysrq b with no response. > >

Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
I"m running sid on my LinuxCertified lappy. It came with ubuntu installed, which I wiped and replaced with debian on top of enxrypted lvm. Works great. Everything works but suspend2ram. I could probably make it work, but it's not worth it. I just shut it down. A signature.asc Description: Digi

Re: How to start KDE from a console prompt?

2007-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > To enter GNOME, I type "startx". I tried entering KDE by typing > "startkde" which I what I remember doing a couple of years ago when > I last tried it. But it can't start X. startx uses ~/.xinitrc to start up the X session.

Re: Re: Loosing internet after suspend

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:42:17PM -0600, John Patton wrote: > Okay. I have a regular ethernet card built into my laptop's motherboard. ... > > What i have done so far is make changes to the powersaved config > scripts. I have instructed it to restart networking, acpid, and the > firewall to no a

Re: Loosing internet after suspend

2007-12-10 Thread Kent West
John Patton wrote: After bringing up my system after a suspend to disk, i lose internet access. When i try to restart networking, i get the following: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such d

Re: buying TV card

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:52:10PM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:43:38AM -0500, Scott Lair wrote: > ---deleted--- >> so its not strictly etch. Also, these cards include hardware mpeg >> encoding which can be a blessin

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:16:47AM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> How about the Atari 800 (or was it the 400?) that had the bare >> membrane. ugh. now that was crap! > > Fortunately I never had the displeasu

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:18:55AM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2007, at 10:27 PM, Nate Duehr wrote: >> Humbug. If you learned hot to type *properly* on a real IBM Selectric >> (hint: you never pushed the key down past the "click", certainly never to >> the stops), using a clicky k

Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?

2007-12-09 Thread Kent West
Dotan Cohen wrote: Vanilla Debian also installs fine. Wife, suspend, bluetooth, card reader, usb, all work fine. Debian makes your wife work fine? Wow, Debian _is_ the best! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROT

Re: startx gdm

2007-12-09 Thread Kent West
Mark Grieveson wrote: Hello. I'm wondering if there is a way to, without using gdm, have x started, my user logged in, and fluxbox opened, automatically. Perhaps a script, or something. Yes. I haven't tested the following, but I believe it will work (it's based on the solution googled at

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 12:42:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/08/07 12:17, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:54:57AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Listening to people sing in Italian (or German) about incest and > >> matricide is not my

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:54:57AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Listening to people sing in Italian (or German) about incest and > matricide is not my cup of tea. sounds like a python bit A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: CLI tool to deeply examine a DVD?

2007-12-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 07:18:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Hi, > > lsdvd does a good job of dumping the name of the disk, and the > titles on the disk, but is there any tool to list the chapters? If > there were any CLI way to see title names, that would be great too. > > I've pored over

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 03:43:27PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > If you need that amazingly insightful gift for someone (yourself?)

Re: how do you convert Windows User to Linux

2007-12-07 Thread Kent West
tekant ozer wrote: The system is old. Dual PIII with 440M/B. Dual Hotswap PSU. about 730Mb ECC. Dell Perf Quad 64bit Raid with 128Mb daughterBrd. 5 SCSI in Hotswp Cage. TapeDrv, DVD, floppy etc.. No problem with Hardware except wireless card. godd**n Airlink 101 card . There was a limited wire

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 01:10:00PM -0500, Ed Curtis wrote: > i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ASW> [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: us-ascii, 13 lines >> --] >> ASW> Totally OT

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 05:06:00PM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ASW> [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: us-ascii, 13 lines > --] > ASW> Totally OT, except it's on my debian box ;)

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 06:26:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/06/07 17:36, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [snip] > > > > I"ve been typing on mine for a couple hours now and it's > > fantastic. The sound takes me back. > > As I type this, Bee

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 06:20:46PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Dec 06 17:42 -0600]: > > > They only weigh about 5 pounds, why not get a ps/2-usb adaptor and > > carry one with the laptop? > > I have a bit of tro

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 01:21:25AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 01:08:47PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > Totally OT, except it's on my debian box ;) > > > > If you need that amazingly insightful gift for someone (yourself?

OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Totally OT, except it's on my debian box ;) If you need that amazingly insightful gift for someone (yourself?) this year, check out www.clickykeyboards.com for real IBM keyboards. Mine just arrived and I'm in heaven. I hate to bump a commercial enterprise like that, but I know many of you do lot

Re: exim - what is it? (how does it run)

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 01:22:58PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: > On Dec 5, 9:40 pm, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 06:26:38PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > ie: the command line [from my router] is: > > >

Re: exim4 config - what EXACTLY is "final destination"

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:59:07AM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: > On Dec 5, 9:50 pm, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > exchange_router: > > driver = manualroute # not manual! > > data = ${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/path/to/recipien

Re: backup system with HTTP console

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:23:32PM -0500, Jerry DuVal wrote: > When a client purchases our software we deliver it to them on a leased > server. The clients do not have any access to the server besides http. We > allow them to configure CUPS through the web admin console and execute > certain oper

Re: newbie help on installing java on etch /without/ x11 (crosspost from debian-java)

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 08:20:20AM +, Tim Diggins wrote: > Hi list - > > have recently started with debian etch (sort of know what I'm doing in BSD, > linux is a /slightly/ new adventure). > > I want to install jdk (and tomcat) by the simplest means, but DON'T want to > install x11 stuff. i

Re: Re: Problem with compiling

2007-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 09:53:05AM +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > Sometime ago Erik wrote: > > > I want to install the PWC software for my Logitech Webcam Pro 4000 > > > I got the code from here: > > > > >

Re: exim4 config - what EXACTLY is "final destination"

2007-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 06:21:26PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 01:47:33PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: > > running debian etch w/ exim 4. > > > > I want to setup exim to receive internet email, and accept/relay ONLY emails > > to a reci

Re: exim - what is it? (how does it run)

2007-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 06:26:38PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At the end of all this research, I STILL find myself trying to > diagnose why my router isn't working; and it's a pretty darn simple > router at that. getting useful error messages out of exim debug is > worthless. > > So I thou

Re: exim4 config - what EXACTLY is "final destination"

2007-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 01:47:33PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote: > running debian etch w/ exim 4. > > I want to setup exim to receive internet email, and accept/relay ONLY emails > to a recipient listed in a text file, on to my exchange server. It will not > send any outbound email. I think I've fig

Re: rsync to clone disk - Can it work? grub-install error

2007-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 11:31:17AM -0500, chloe K wrote: > thank you Andrew > > this is my mistake. the tmp folder is missing > > grub-install is fine :) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: rsync to clone disk - Can it work? grub-install error

2007-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 09:43:16AM -0500, chloe K wrote: > > > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at > 02:56:57PM -0500, chloe K wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I install etch in hda > > then I add the hdc which ha

Re: Restore menus after FS problem

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 05:32:36PM -0500, David Bruce wrote: > After a power outage triggering the need for fsck on several partitions, it > appears the KDE menus got hosed - many entries no longer have a command > associated with them, specifically all of the KDE apps. I can't find any > other

Re: Preferred Backup Method?

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 03:30:58PM -0800, Raquel wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:09:12 -0500 > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > What is d-u's preferred method of backups? Now that I'm running > > servers on my system (Apache,

Re: Preferred Backup Method?

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 03:22:48PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2007, at 2:01 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> Seriously though, I use rdiff-backup and cron jobs to pull backups of >> critical data and /etc using pub-key ssh authentication to make the >>

Re: [OT] sandpaper [Was: Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS]

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 05:20:51PM -0500, Christopher Judd wrote: > On Tuesday 04 December 2007 13:06:36 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > >... > > > > > How sad. > > ... > > > > > If you can only have one woodworking tool, make it a combination stone. > > Then you can make every other tool eventually

Re: [OT] Re: Mounting a USB Mass Storage Device

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:26:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/03/07 21:17, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: > >>> Yes, that's a nice idea. I myself would follow your advice, but my > >>> wife doesn't let me to... :) > >> sorry dear, that harddrive died and took windows with it. Fortunately, > >> I

Re: SUDO

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 11:57:50AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/04/07 04:59, Martin Marcher wrote: > > 2007/12/3, Henning Follmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Add erik to the sudores file? > >> > >> visudo is a wrapper around vi to edit the /etc/sudoers file. > > > > well not exactly vi. > > >

Re: Can not read some messages with signature in mutt

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 11:57:21PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 03:52:40PM +0100, Misko wrote: > > I noticed that some messages on this list mutt can not read. > > When I try to read signed message (tapping ENTER) mutt says: > > Could not copy message > > and does not open

Re: [OT] sandpaper [Was: Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS]

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:06:36PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:25:46AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:45:07AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:59:52AM -0800, Andrew Sa

Re: Problem with compiling

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 07:08:22PM +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > we really sort of need more details about this, like what camera, what > > are you trying to build, where you got the code, etc etc etc. > > > > > > > > just

Re: rsync to clone disk - Can it work? grub-install error

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 02:56:57PM -0500, chloe K wrote: > Hi all > > I install etch in hda > then I add the hdc which have same partition but not same size in hda > > /dev/hda1 /boot > /dev/hda2 /swap > /dev/hda3 / > > i use rsync to copy data from hda to hdc > > I use fedora5 boot disk to boo

Re: permissions in /sbin

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:24:24PM +, andy wrote: > Jochen Schulz wrote: >> andy: >> >>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root ... >>> >>> Is this really an okay arrangement for the contents of /sbin? >>> >> >> Sure it is. Only root may modify the files and everyone may read and >> execute them. Wha

Re: Preferred Backup Method?

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 04:09:12PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > What is d-u's preferred method of backups? Now that I'm running servers > on my system (Apache, MySQL, SSH, etc.) I need to find a good method of > backing up, because no matter how much security someone has things may > still go wro

Re: debian 4.0 r0 installation - x-windows starts but gets stuck in black in white screen

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 04:53:53AM -0800, 2006me wrote: > Hi, I have the following issue. When I start my recent debian > installation (4.0 r0) everything work fine except when it comes to > start the x-window. It starts up but gets stuck in a black and white > screen with the mouse pointer as a X.

Re: Syncable finance app?

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 02:15:56AM -0500, John Miller wrote: > Hello everyone, > > There are plenty of personal finance applications out there for Linux > (GNUCash, gAcc, etc.), but with all of them, you must make entries on your > PC. When I eat out at a restaurant, I'd like to be able to enter

Re: Problem with compiling

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:54:27AM +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote: > I am trying to install a webcam on my etch dist. we really sort of need more details about this, like what camera, what are you trying to build, where you got the code, etc etc etc. > > I get this: > > # make > make -C /lib/modules/

Re: [OT] sandpaper [Was: Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS]

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:45:07AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:59:52AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > Interesting. I view it more like this: sudo and grep (find, sort, etc > > etc etc) are ubiquitous. I'm surprised they

Re: viewing el imparcial with ff or iceweasel

2007-12-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:31:26AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > How do you look at this? > > http://www.imparoax.com.mx/ huh. that's wierd. Do you think its serving a different page to other browsers? The source is very simple with just the link to ... nowhere. A signature.asc Descri

Re: Mounting a USB Mass Storage Device

2007-12-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:48:59AM +0100, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:56:56 -0500 > Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Samuel Bächler wrote: > > >> Is the vfat module loaded? You might want to check the filesystem > > >> type with "file -s /dev/sdb1". Also are you able t

Re: I have a problem with Courier Imap

2007-12-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
-imap-pop3-1.5.3-5.i386.rpm but it conflicts Cyrus Sasl and needs > > courier-imap-common. then I tried to install courier-imap-common but > > this time it needs rc-scripts then I tried to install rc-scripts but it > > gives errors bellow. please help me how can I install courier-

Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS

2007-12-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 07:36:08PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Hi debian-user, > > Here is a summary of the mini-poll that I conducted recently on Debian-user: Very interesting results, and thanks for doing this. > > Firefox/Iceweasel and GIMP reign supreme for the third year running

Re: Dual EMC Installation

2007-12-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:09:25AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> Two thirds of that email was useless nonsense crap. >> > Right. pile on... looks like it was cut-n-pasted from a website. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: I have a problem with Courier Imap

2007-12-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 08:08:33AM -0800, Nevruz Mesut Sahin wrote: > > I have problem with installing Courier Imap . when I try to install > courier-imap-pop3-1.5.3-5.i386.rpm but it conflicts Cyrus Sasl and needs > courier-imap-common. then I tried to install courier-imap-common but > this

Re: SUDO

2007-12-03 Thread Kent West
Michael Pobega wrote: ... sudo is in NO WAY a replacement for su. Three (possible) Ways that come to mind: 1. It's my understanding that sudo commands are logged, whereas su commands may not be. (This may be old or inaccurate information.) 2. There's the (very) slight psychological reminder

Re: SUDO

2007-12-03 Thread Kent West
Erik Jakobsen wrote: Hi. I have just installed Debian. I get this when I want to install: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install pico Password: erik is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. How can I get rid of that problem ? As root, run "visudo"; add "erik" to the f

Re: scroll mouse quits working

2007-12-02 Thread Kent West
Rodney D. Myers wrote: Every once in a while, when I use my KVM switch, the middle mouse button/scroll wheel, ceases to function. Short of rebooting, not really an option, what else can I do to get the scroll wheel to function properly again? Anything in /etc/init.d/ that I can rerun? PS/

Re: dmcrypt on an existing partition (firewire external disk)

2007-12-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
a copy sent to me directly. You are using Thunderbird -- there is a plugin/extension for Reply-to-List. Check the archives here for mention of it, or just poke around at mozilla. > >  Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > I honestly don't know. There *has* to be some performanc

Re: Debian package of Qtopia

2007-12-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:50:32AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > Qtopia ("application framework for single-purpose devices powered by > embedded Linux") used to be called "qt-embedded" but now I can't find it as > a package. > > Anyone? Is this it? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache searc

Resolved [sort of]: wireless gets dhcp/gw, but route complains about gw

2007-12-01 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: ... using a D-Link DI-514 wireless router I just bought. The Debian laptop gets a DHCP address, but I can't ping anything outside the laptop, not even the router. After additional testing, I've decided the problem is that the router is faulty. -- Ke

Re: dmcrypt on an existing partition (firewire external disk)

2007-12-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
this belongs on the list... On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 12:47:05PM +0100, Andrew Henry wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > nice guide. it was definitely part of my list of open tabs when I was > > setting up my encrypted laptop. He's got some other good ones there as

Re: server login with SSH

2007-12-01 Thread Kent West
phillinux wrote: I set-up a plain vanilla, samba (intranet) server for a computer lab in my school. I've done this before with SuSE and have switched to Debian Net install. I have the kids SSH into their accounts to change their samba passwords but the connection is now being refused by the s

Re: dmcrypt on an existing partition (firewire external disk)

2007-11-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 11:37:52AM +0100, Andrew Henry wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > It comes down to this. Backups -- if its something you don't want to > > have to go through the work to replace, then you should back it > > up. Even if it's something t

Re: increase space in /tmp

2007-11-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 05:45:35AM -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote: > Is it possible to increase the space available in /tmp without doing the > backup/repartition/reinstall/restore dance? > > I'm trying to backup a dvd using k9copy. It wants to have about 8 gig free > in > the /tmp partition, but

Re: increase space in /tmp

2007-11-30 Thread Kent West
Mark Neidorff wrote: Is it possible to increase the space available in /tmp without doing the backup/repartition/reinstall/restore dance? I'm trying to backup a dvd using k9copy. It wants to have about 8 gig free in the /tmp partition, but when I set the system up, I gave /tmp much less than

Re: Install Question

2007-11-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:01:31PM -0700, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:18 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Install Question > > On Tu

Re: Problem with cheapo USB hub

2007-11-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 03:14:06PM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote: > Has anyone run across this one? I bought some cheapo USB hubs; they're > no-name branded 7-port USB hubs. When I plug them in, they go through > repeated cycles of connect-disconnect, with no devices actually appearing: > > Nov 28 1

Re: dmcrypt on an existing partition (firewire external disk)

2007-11-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:30:10PM +0100, Andrew Henry wrote: > I have a big disk that I cannot backup due to space constraints and want > to encrypt it. It is an ext3 external WD MyBook drive. I keep movies > music and backups on there so its nothing I cannot lose, but I would > hate to spend ti

Re: troubleshoot lockups

2007-11-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:02:24PM -0800, BartlebyScrivener wrote: > On Nov 28, 1:20 pm, Andrew Sackville-West > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > These key combos I never even heard of. Ditto. I'll try them if it > happens again. google on "magic sysrq&quo

Re: Top-posting (was Re: CD to acc)

2007-11-28 Thread Kent West
Robert Hodgins wrote: But then some genius gave us the > sign to allowed us to select how far back in a thread we wished to read and also saved our scroll wheels many many miles of rolling through text that we had already read only to find a one-liner at the bottom of the message. Yes, b

Re: Install Question

2007-11-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 02:33:18PM -0700, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > If a controller manufacturer makes drivers for your OS, but the OS doesn't > have them natively, how does one install Debian on to this controller as the > boot device? to answer this very generic question... there are many ways

Re: buying TV card

2007-11-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:43:38AM -0500, Scott Lair wrote: > > I'm in the market for a TV card for my etch system. > I'd prefer pci hardware. I don't really care about > actually watching tv programs on my computer, I just > want to record shows, edit in kino, then burn to dvd > for viewing late

Re: troubleshoot lockups

2007-11-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 10:35:21AM -0500, Marc-Etienne M.Léveillé wrote: > > What log file do I look at on my system to get a clue for the source > > of the problem? > > Log files are in /var/log. You might want to look into syslog and > kern.log attach it to your post if you need further help. >

Re: troubleshoot lockups

2007-11-28 Thread Kent West
BartlebyScrivener wrote: Hello. I moved from Windows XP to Debian Etch about a year ago. Rock solid until recently. I apply all updates via synaptic. Recently added the unofficial and multimedia repositories to my sources to get mplayer and a few others. I don't mean to suggest that this is cau

Re: terminal-metapackage

2007-11-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 08:30:54PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: > > the biggest part of it is that it is a learning > experience for me, both to see what can be done > without the x server installed, and to work on > programing which is certainly not a strong suit for me > at the moment. nothin'

Re: terminal-metapackage

2007-11-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 08:50:52PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: > > i have been looking at screen, and think that it may > work if i could find a way (an add-on script or > something) to create a tabbable menu of the open > screens to replace the use of next and windowlist > (almost a persist on

Re: Adobe Reader 8

2007-11-27 Thread Kent West
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I prefer kpdf, which integrates better into my kde than xpdf or evince. I was surprised to discover the other day that kpdf had a right-click option to read out-loud highlighted text. Pretty cool. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: removing kde

2007-11-26 Thread Kent West
lostson wrote: Hello All I have install debian stable with kde and am wanting to remove kde completely and install gnome. Is this possible ? and if so how ? I have been googling trying to find a way with no luck thanks. LostSon If you have plenty of drive space, don't bother uninstall

Re: terminal-metapackage

2007-11-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 12:39:52PM -0800, joseph lockhart wrote: > well to an extent this is an extension of my last > thread. does anyone know of any metapackages that > contain all the cli tools in one place, if not then i > am off to RTM at http://people.debian.org/ on creating > metapackages an

Re: [OT] firefox 3

2007-11-23 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Anybody try the new firefox 3? Also, most of my add-ons are incompatible with FF3. Reckon I'll have to wait a while on those Indeed. Keep us posted on that freeze up. I hav

Re: [OT] firefox 3

2007-11-23 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Anybody try the new firefox 3? Also, most of my add-ons are incompatible with FF3. Reckon I'll have to wait a while on those Indeed. Keep us posted on that freeze up. I have not found any tr

Re: Is it exist a mailing-list for console only users ?

2007-11-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 05:36:29PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Fri November 23 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > When was the last time we had a questio from someone wondering how do do > > something in ed? > > maybe BUT... when you use VI, you can still do the ":" commands that are ed > b

Re: [OT] firefox 3

2007-11-22 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Anybody try the new firefox 3? Also, most of my add-ons are incompatible with FF3. Reckon I'll have to wait a while on those -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: [OT] firefox 3

2007-11-22 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Very few [OT]'s nowadays. Anybody try the new firefox 3? I just downloaded it last night. I logged in on a second X session as a second user and untarred it in that user's home directory and ran it directly from there. I only ran it 30 mins or so, and didn't "pu

Re: xorg wont work and wont generate a log

2007-11-20 Thread Kent West
Peter Smerdon wrote: Hello, I have a brand new HP pavillion laptop with debian unstable amd64 installed. I cannot get x to start, but more worrying than that is that /var/log/Xorg.0.log does not exist, and never gets generated. Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: Dear, I have the same problem on

Re: xorg wont work and wont generate a log

2007-11-20 Thread Kent West
Peter Smerdon wrote: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What happens if you just try running X alone, as in: # X & The same thing happened running X directly Maybe try redirecting the errors to a file: # X 2> errors.txt & -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: upgrade stopped at ownership error message

2007-11-20 Thread Kent West
tom arnall wrote: i just tried to do an upgrade and got the following messages: snip--- Reading changelogs... Done Error: "/tmp/kde-klorovwp0rg" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Link points to "/tmp/kde-root" Error: "/tmp/ksocket-klorobxLJlU" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Link

Re: xorg wont work and wont generate a log

2007-11-20 Thread Kent West
Peter Smerdon wrote: Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Do you see anything interesting in /var/log/syslog? nothing appears in syslog with the startx command, however everytime I use gdm I get: Nov 20 17:51:54 laptop gdm[4562]: WARNING: Failed to start X server several times

Re: DHCP Client Won't Connect

2007-11-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 05:53:40PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > I have a default Sarge installation that I had to move to a new network. > It had been getting the address through DHCP with no problem. Now, on > the new network, it tries to connect to a DHCP server, but there's no > connection.

Re: Internet Problem

2007-11-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 11:44:56PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Tuesday 20 November 2007 21:57, Bill Smith wrote: > > Henrique Rennó wrote: > > > I have a Windows XP machine connected to the Internet and an > > > additional network card with a fixed IP configured (192.168.0.5). I > > > connected

Re: Which AM2 motherboard and chipset do you use?

2007-11-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:39:58AM +0800, Augustin wrote: > > Hello, ... > > For the power supply, I am thinking to buy a 500~550 Watt, 80plus > certified unit. just a quick note on power supplies. Its not the total wattage that is of concern, but how that power is distributed into the differ

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